[Q] Restore without downloading stock firmware? - Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have Indian moto g 16 GB Android 4.4.4 I have a few questions
1. I just want to root it without any custom recovery or rom. Only to try apps which require root. I am not interested in custom roms, happy with stock rom. I found Modaco's method for it. But many users did not find it working. Is there any other SIMPLE AND STABLE method for it without messing up with stock rom and recovery?
2. If I successfully root it without custom recovery what will be steps to unroot it and revert it back to stock 4.4.4 so that I could receive future OTA. (i had rooted my HTC one x with custom recovery so I know about unlocking bootloader). Will this process include flashing stock rom as there is already stock rom in phone
3. Is is necessary to download stock firmware if someone decide to revert back from rooted phone to stock. I mean not everyone has fast Internet connection to download those big 400-500 mb . Zip files. I read somewhere that we can backup the entire rom after rooting. So why not flash that backed up rom for reverting process. Why need to download..and For backing up the stock rom do we need to root with custom recovery or the Modaco's method (stock recovery root) will work.
You may find my third question stupid but I am not much into this stuff.
Please answer my all questions whether it is yes or no. You need not to provide detailed descriptions but just clear my confusion. I couldn't find these type of questions anywhere else on Internet. So may be useful for other users too. Thanx

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Anybody???

Guru.Eclairs said:
Anybody???
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Hey...yes you can root it but doing so requires an unlocked bootloader(which wipes all data on the phone..so backup)
To revert root you'll need stock recovery(since you say you don't want a custom recovery, skip flashing the stock recovery) and untouched stock ROM...
you can either download a stock fresh stock ROM[recommended]
Or
You can revert all root changes you did to the ROM(Xposed, root,busybox, e.t.c.)
Cheers mate

thanx for replying..
Ok reverting will be enough? I thought stock rom is no more Pure after we root it either by stock recovery or custom recovery. And if i choose the reverting method, how much total apps will i have to delete/uninstall?

Guru.Eclairs said:
Ok reverting will be enough? I thought stock rom is no more Pure after we root it either by stock recovery or custom recovery. And if i choose the reverting method, how much total apps will i have to delete/uninstall?
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You'll will have to remove all root adjustments you made...if you can't remember them all, it's best to flash a new zip...but in my case it was only Xposed and root so I uninstalled Xposed within the app, then went to supersu to revert root.
Good luck

itouchables said:
You'll will have to remove all root adjustments you made...if you can't remember them all, it's best to flash a new zip...but in my case it was only Xposed and root so I uninstalled Xposed within the app, then went to supersu to revert root.
Good luck
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Thanx sir, Good Day

1. Try Paul O´Brien´s (that guy from Modaco) method. I rooted my Moto G with stock 4.4.4 like a month ago. No need to mess with the recovery, easy and simple.
2. There is an option in SuperSU that deletes all SU binaries from the phone. It is not needed to update though. You can update with SU installed, unless you modified any system files that the OTA wants to patch.
3. No, as mentioned in 2. Just unroot, uninstall xposed and you are done.

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knizmi said:
1. Try Paul O´Brien´s (that guy from Modaco) method. I rooted my Moto G with stock 4.4.4 like a month ago. No need to mess with the recovery, easy and simple.
2. There is an option in SuperSU that deletes all SU binaries from the phone. It is not needed to update though. You can update with SU installed, unless you modified any system files that the OTA wants to patch.
3. No, as mentioned in 2. Just unroot, uninstall xposed and you are done.
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Thanks i'll try MoDaCo's method after getting android L OTA

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[TRICK] Hey Guys heres how to recieve OTA while ROOTED ON GT-P3100.

I Had just rooted my GTAB2 and it'd been two days. And suddenly the news came out that Official JB 4.2.2 has been released for the GT-P3100
So i Opted for unrooting and getting back my Official status but it didnt work
But then i found this trick
1.Install Triangle away
2.Have a cf-autorooted tab (GT-P3100)(may work on other models)
3.First Reset the flash counter using Traingle Away.
4.Enable the tracker option and reboot.
5.Then boot into Stockrecovery. (CWM Recovery or any other recovery won't do the trick. U can reinstall it after the OTA.)
6.Wipe Data/Factory reset.
7.Wipe Cache.
8.Wipe Dalvik Cache.
9.Reboot.
10.Voila!!! You have a device with Official Status with ROOT and Can recieve OTA.
May or May NOT WORK, but it did work for me
PLEASE NOTE THIS IS ONLY APPLICABLE IF YOU ARE NOT USING A CUSTOM ROM AND USING THE OFFICIAL STOCK WITH JUST ROOT.
accepting the ota update will most likely unroot the device. the new firmware will also probably be patched so unless you are sure that a root exploit exists for the new firmware, than perhaps it is best to wait for the odin flashable version from sammobile and use mobile odin pro to flash. mobile odin pro has an option called everoot which will root the rom. this is probably easier to do than trying to root a new firmware with a patched kernel.
ashraf sharif said:
accepting the ota update will most likely unroot the device. the new firmware will also probably be patched so unless you are sure that a root exploit exists for the new firmware, than perhaps it is best to wait for the odin flashable version from sammobile and use mobile odin pro to flash. mobile odin pro has an option called everoot which will root the rom. this is probably easier to do than trying to root a new firmware with a patched kernel.
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Also if we can't use any custom recovery .
, then what's the need to root the device?
no one is saying that you cannot use custom recovery. you can use whatever you please custom kernel ,recovery,rom, whatever you choose is your choice.My point is that not everyone root6s thier phone so they can flash a custom rom. In my case I use official roms all the time. official kernel all the time. official recovery all the time. my phone has official status aLL THE TIME.
so why root?
if not to flash aosp roms and cwm or twrp orthe multitude of mods and roms? yes Ive been there and done that. ive overclocked and undervolted and ran aokp miui pa u name it. I have never found a rom that was 100 percent working and compatible for any phone ever. in fact most of the time i came across major bugs that made most roms unusable as a daily driver. stability is hard to find in aosp land . the manufacturers do not release sources. so cameras and fingerprint scanners and mhl and other features either are barely functional or sometimes will never work.
I ROOT BECAUSE I CAN CUSTOMIZE THE STOCK FIRMWARE THAT I USE. without root i cant use greenify ton hibernate my apps. without root i cant freeze apps in sd maid or tibu or rom toolbox pro. Root allows me to change my bootanimations . byn 8using root explorer. root allows me to edit my build prop. root allows me to zipalign my apps. and debloat them. root improves my user experience . it allows me to enjoy the stability and long battery life and full functionality if stock roms without having to use a stripped gown vanilla android rom. been there and was not impressed. but to each his own.

Update from 4.4.2 to .4.4.3

If this was already answered in another thread please link me.
So, i have a Moto G Dual-SIM Retail on 4.4.2 and i've been noticing some minor bugs, but i think the OTA updates would be able to solve it for me. But on the other hand, my device is rooted and i have quite a lot of things (XPosed Modules and etc) on it, as well as a custom recovery (I think it is CWM). How do i update, only gotta restore stock recovery and update normally via OTA? No need to reset anything? Root will remain along with my Xposed Modules?
Thanks in advance.
You need stock recovery (some have reported that philz recovery also works) and stock kernel with stock modules. Root remains. You just need to reinstall xposed framework from installer. Modules remain.
Quick way is flash 4.4.3 vesion for Bazil utmsds ( for dual sim).
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Where can i get the stock recovery and how to flash it? Currently using PhilZ but it doesn't let me do the OTA update.
And there's a thread on this section that shows how to restore stock firmware, but i'm already running it and would not wan't to wipe out the phone or anything just to update.
Thanks anyway guys!
PS: Now that i tried this without success, phone goes on rebooting to Philz Recovery after a while in attempt to update (and fails everytime of course)
EDIT again: Done it by getting recovery.img from stock firmware and flashing via fastboot (Android SDK), but now getting error while phone tries to update and when it boots get "update unsuccessful" warning.
Because u use Xposed and some module. Best way u should use Titanium Backup, backup all you apps,after that,use Root Explore ,copy whole sdcard to yr PC, flash stock 4.4.3,root and copy back all detail to sdcard, use Titan backup all apps lost and all data. Done. If not ,u still have to unroot,uninstall Xposed with all module, i mean must do yr phone like stock rom,and update it.
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[MOD] Remove Root without formatting!

Hi everyone!
Today, I made a zip file that removes root privileges from your android device
I made this to prevent reflashing a stock rom just to remove the root
It WILL keep the same recovery though.
HOW TO INSTALL?
1) Download the zip file
2) Flash it with a custom recovery
la2o said:
Hi everyone!
Today, I made a zip file that removes root privileges from your android device
I made this to prevent reflashing a stock rom just to remove the root
It WILL keep the same recovery though.
HOW TO INSTALL?
1) Download the zip file
2) Flash it with a custom recovery
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Use SuperSU, no need for custom recovery, and unroot. No need to flash stock rom to unroot.
Ah interesting, I did not know that. Thanks
OTA?
I can after this use in OTA? or changed for ofiicaly systems for get ota update?

[Q] Update to Lollipop without USB and with root

Hi, my N5 has a problem, it has the USB port broken so i can't connect it to the PC. It now has KitKat 4.4.4.
Here is my problem:
I want to update to Lollipop but i can't do it with Factory image and/or Sideload because the USB problem.
I tried to "unroot" but i couldn't do it right, i've downloaded the 5.0 OTA and my phone rebooted with a red triangle and it said "error" i know this is because i still keep my phone rooted.
So i would like to know 2 things:
1) How do i unroot definitely? because i did it before but it seems it didn't do right, i clicked "unroot" on SuperSU (i read that sometimes when you press "unroot" it doesn't erase all the folders and files so you have to do by your own, but what files and what folders are they?)
2) If i unroot and i if update to Lollipop, can i be root without using the USB port?
Of you're rooted, why would you want the stock ota anyway? There are PLENTY of 5.0 Roms in the development section with custom kernels (custom kernels are needed in 5.0 lollipop for root). Flash one of those in recovery. Make sure you have the latest TWRP which you can flash with flashify if you can't fastboot flash using USB.
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Pain-N-Panic said:
Of you're rooted, why would you want the stock ota anyway? There are PLENTY of 5.0 Roms in the development section with custom kernels (custom kernels are needed in 5.0 lollipop for root). Flash one of those in recovery. Make sure you have the latest TWRP which you can flash with flashify if you can't fastboot flash using USB.
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Is really needed to flash a custom kernel to get root on Lollipop? I'm asking because in this thread [ROM] [STOCK] Android 5.0 LRX21O - Stock/Flashable (11/12/14) FAQ nº 2 it says:
Q: How do I get root?
A: If you want to keep the stock kernel, use CF-Auto-Root. If you flash a custom kernel, just flash the newest SuperSU ZIP afterwards.
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So i understand that we can have root with stock kernel, is this ok or did i misunderstood something?
If i want to flash a custom kernel, where can i get "SuperSU" Zip to get root? and does it need to clean something after or before flashing this file? caché, data, etc?
Yes CF AUTO ROOT will allow your to root the stock image. However since youre already rooted youre running into issues flashing it successfully. I attached the SU zip below. My recomendation is if you want the stock ota image, download it from the developer thread, flash francos custim kernel for lollipop ans then flash the root zip i have attached below. I would complete a full wipe of system, data, and both caches (not internal storage or you will lose all on sd card) before flashing. Once you wipe just flash the the rom, kernel and root zip in that order.
Pain-N-Panic said:
Yes CF AUTO ROOT will allow your to root the stock image. However since youre already rooted youre running into issues flashing it successfully. I attached the SU zip below. My recomendation is if you want the stock ota image, download it from the developer thread, flash francos custim kernel for lollipop ans then flash the root zip i have attached below. I would complete a full wipe of system, data, and both caches (not internal storage or you will lose all on sd card) before flashing. Once you wipe just flash the the rom, kernel and root zip in that order.
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Thanks!!!
It worked perfectly!
I tried first with CF AutoRoot but it failed, but it worked with SuperSU.

[Completed] OTA update after root

I own a lenovo a6000 plus and i rooted it with kingoroot then used a script to change to supersu instead of the previous superuser. To take a backup of my rom after i rooted i flashed a cwm based custom recovery. Everything was running fine. Now i have a OTA update for android lollipop but it said your phone was modified. I unrooted from supersu and cleared the cache from custom recovery. Now i am able to download the update. But i read that after unroot OTA update can brick your phone and you need stock recovery to update via OTA. Please help.... Urgent....
Hello,
Welcome to XDA.
Yes, you must be un-rooted and superuser/superSU/kinguser removed, you must have an unmodified system partition, this means uninstall all Xposed modules and the Xposed framework, remove theme packages that modify system in any way(including launchers and font modifying apps in some cases), you must also have stock recovery. Here is a link to the stock recovery for your device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/chef-central/android/recovery-lenovo-a6000-plus-stock-t3119232
Post your questions about what you need to do in that thread.

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