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Hi guys, a couple of months ago I've rooted my new S2+ and after Alex posted the new 4.2.2 I've flashed my device with RDS_GT-I9105P-XEO-I9105PXXAMC2 (topic here GT-I9105/I9105P Stock Prerooted Firmware Without loss of warranty(4.2.2) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2334103).
So far it is working perfect! This week I've received a notification, that there is a new update available OTA for my device, so I've decided to download and install it. I've downloaded it, the phone restarts and starts to install the "new update", but at 25% shows an error (the Android guy wearing the red triangle etc. and reboots automatically).
After the restart the OS boots normally and is working OK as previous.
My question is: Since my phone has a prerooted stock FW (4.2.2) and is rooted at the same time running CWM, why I can't install the latest updates OTA?
If CW is causing this, why am I able to get the OTA update notification?
Thanks for the replies.
boyansky78 said:
Hi guys, a couple of months ago I've rooted my new S2+ and after Alex posted the new 4.2.2 I've flashed my device with RDS_GT-I9105P-XEO-I9105PXXAMC2 (topic here GT-I9105/I9105P Stock Prerooted Firmware Without loss of warranty(4.2.2) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2334103).
So far it is working perfect! This week I've received a notification, that there is a new update available OTA for my device, so I've decided to download and install it. I've downloaded it, the phone restarts and starts to install the "new update", but at 25% shows an error (the Android guy wearing the red triangle etc. and reboots automatically).
After the restart the OS boots normally and is working OK as previous.
My question is: Since my phone has a prerooted stock FW (4.2.2) and is rooted at the same time running CWM, why I can't install the latest updates OTA?
If CW is causing this, why am I able to get the OTA update notification?
Thanks for the replies.
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that is because it is a modded firmware
safariking said:
that is because it is a modded firmware
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I understand that the FW is modded, as the previous one (4.1.2), which I've downloaded from here and installed on my G2+. But with 4.1.2 at that time I wasn't able to check for any updates for my OS. Every time I've checked manually for updates, the OS gave me error message, that this is not possible. And now with 4.2.2 I am not only able to check if my FW is the latest, but also to download and install 1/4 of the updates. I am trying to find the algorithm here.
boyansky78 said:
I understand that the FW is modded, as the previous one (4.1.2), which I've downloaded from here and installed on my G2+. But with 4.1.2 at that time I wasn't able to check for any updates for my OS. Every time I've checked manually for updates, the OS gave me error message, that this is not possible. And now with 4.2.2 I am not only able to check if my FW is the latest, but also to download and install 1/4 of the updates. I am trying to find the algorithm here.
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I will say it again
It is not possible to check for updates because the Firmware is modded and not original anymore that's why!!!
Hi "safariking",
In the current situation we have two identically modded FWs, but a different outcome.
It's very nice of you to take the time to answer my question so fully That's why I'd like to thank you for the effort. Herewith I am closing the topic.
Cheers.
No probs guy i will repeat myself 100 times no problem
Verstuurd van mijn GT-I9105P
safariking said:
No probs guy i will repeat myself 100 times no problem
Verstuurd van mijn GT-I9105P
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chill down everyone safari bro,this guy trying to say he got updated with mod fw,just when reach certain percent,the downloaded file seems corrupted. Now i understand mod fw can't even received the ota file,but how this process is allowed, and what happened with the ota file he downloaded?
either way,it's pointless,1st the phone fail to update completely(stuck at 25%), 2nd i don't think this problem can be solved.
cheers everyone~ :highfive:
nickchk said:
chill down everyone safari bro,this guy trying to say he got updated with mod fw,just when reach certain percent,the downloaded file seems corrupted. Now i understand mod fw can't even received the ota file,but how this process is allowed, and what happened with the ota file he downloaded?
either way,it's pointless,1st the phone fail to update completely(stuck at 25%), 2nd i don't think this problem can be solved.
cheers everyone~ :highfive:
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Hi Nick,
Thanks for your reply. You are reading my mind. The issue is really interesting & I think it is worth discussing this.
Safari is right, when he says that FW upgrade OTA for customized ROM is not possible. This is of course true and no one has ever doubted it. This is why when I had the 4.1.2 installed on my G2+ no update was even possible. Droid detects immediately, that the OS has been modified and that you are not running stock ROM.
Okay, so far so good.
Now I have pre-rooted 4.2.2 installed on my phone. When I hit the "Check for update button" it detects that my OS is genuine (although it is not), downloads the whole update package (see screenshot), restarts the phone (part of the update process) and starts installing the update. When the installation reaches 25%, an error message appears saying, that an error has occurred. The phone restarts and loads the "old" OS.
I have tested this a several times and it always hangs on 25%.
The question is NOT why I CAN'T install OTA updates on modified ROM. The question is why I CAN download and install OTA updates on modified ROM.
My suggestion is that:
ROM 1 (4.1.2) had a modified kernel. That's why the OTA updates were not possible.
ROM 2 (4.2.2) is pre-rooted. And I assume it is just stock FW (kernel not modified) with few modifications in the user permissions. This would explain the OTA update and why it reaches download mode and hangs on 25% of the installation.
I hope this brings more clarification to the situation and this would be useful to all members of the forum.
Cheers!:highfive:
I have randomly come across and read posts and topics on this in the other devices' forum.
If I remember correctly, it is the custom recovery, i.e Cwm or twrp that blocks or interrupts the OTA process. 2 reasons why: you'll lose root access if the update went through. Secondly, if a user freezes or uninstalls stock apps like S Voice, Chat On etc, there will be trouble.
There are some ways of allowing an OTA to get pass a custom recovery. I think TWRP has this feature. Again, I stand corrected here lol.
Heard of OTA Root Keeper but no idea how it works
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Good day,
Well, my wife has the Nexus 5 and her phone still hasn't got the 5.0 lollipop update by OTA. Which is wierd. I would do the manually image update on her phone. But she doesn't want to loose her game saves and all that crap. I am in Canada. Anyone else in Canada not get the lollipop update yet as well? And is there a work around. Probably a far shot of a question.
Thanks
Lol is everything stock?
my friend is having the same issue
i rooted my buddies nexus 5 and flashed the factory google image for 5.0, now that the patch has come out he wanted me to revert him back to stock
so i took him back to 4.4.4 where he was before the factory image.
he wasnt getting the update.
i read somewhere else that the bootloader has to be re-locked for ota's to work so i did that too. still no update.
Got my nexus today, hoping for lollipop update, and it says 4.4.4 is the latest one :/
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dicecuber said:
Lol is everything stock?
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Yup. Her phone is stock. Nothing done to it.
I got kind of the same problem. Got my OTA notification maybe 3 weeks ago. I didn't want to upgrade the phone just yet, had been hearing some battery issues and wanted to fint out if it was worth to upgrade.
Today I decided I would do the upgrade since the 5.0.1 has been moved out, I thought that 5.0.1 would take care of the first bugs. But when I try to upgrade it says I have the latest version. I'm on 4.4.4 stock, no root.
I did hide the notification for the updates right after I got the first notifications for it, but I have been checking back from time to time to see that the upgrade was in fact still availible on my phone. It was maybe a week ago, but not anymore.
Does anybody know if I'm supposed to do something to be able to upgrade now, or should I just wait?
Thanks
Should just be a waiting game.
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Should just be a waiting game.
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Don't know if your answer was to me. But if it was, do you know Why the update is gone now? Any reason for that?
Yeah something vent wrong
I had kitkat 4.4.4 on my neuxs 5 Rooted. so when OTA lollipop came i went back to stock rom and updated My N5 from 4.0 to all the way 5.0 Lollipop.
but i had to go back to Kitkat because no game hacking software is working with lolipop so i wen back to 4.4.4.
Now again i m trying to get OTA update for 5.0 (no root) its not not showing me in update its stuck on 4.4.4. and its says that my software is up to date.
I am from Toronto Canada. I guess OTA update is gone for CANADA.
Lets just wait.
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I had kitkat 4.4.4 on my neuxs 5 Rooted. so when OTA lollipop came i went back to stock rom and updated My N5 from 4.0 to all the way 5.0 Lollipop.
but i had to go back to Kitkat because no game hacking software is working with lolipop so i wen back to 4.4.4.
Now again i m trying to get OTA update for 5.0 (no root) its not not showing me in update its stuck on 4.4.4. and its says that my software is up to date.
I am from Toronto Canada. I guess OTA update is gone for CANADA.
Lets just wait.
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Ya, I don't know why her phone hasn't gotten it yet. I may have to unlock the bootloader and do it manually!!!!
ern88 said:
Ya, I don't know why her phone hasn't gotten it yet. I may have to unlock the bootloader and do it manually!!!!
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Problem is that if her bootloader wasn't already unlocked, the act of unlocking prompts the phone to erase all userdata. Which is why you should always unlock the bootloader right away with a phone before doing anything.
I've read on reddit, that maybe cause it's 5.0.1 out, we have to wait in line again for it to become available on our devices, the same reason is with the guy who dismissed his notification
SYRE123 said:
Don't know if your answer was to me. But if it was, do you know Why the update is gone now? Any reason for that?
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Sorry yes it was to you. Because the updates are delivered in batches. If you ignore the update for so long, you go to the back of the queue until it's your turn again.
OTA Update
Hey guys let us know if OTA update working again or not cos 5.0.1 is released i think it should work now...
any one?
this still doesn't explain why my wife's Nexus 5 is still on 4.4.4 and hasn't receiving the lollipop udate as of yet. It's been out for a bit now. This is screwed up beyond beleive!!!
ern88 said:
Good day,
Well, my wife has the Nexus 5 and her phone still hasn't got the 5.0 lollipop update by OTA. Which is wierd. I would do the manually image update on her phone. But she doesn't want to loose her game saves and all that crap. I am in Canada. Anyone else in Canada not get the lollipop update yet as well? And is there a work around. Probably a far shot of a question.
Thanks
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You could always just purchase one those backup apps like Titanium that does not require root and then save everything. This way you could do a manual side load.
ern88 said:
this still doesn't explain why my wife's Nexus 5 is still on 4.4.4 and hasn't receiving the lollipop udate as of yet. It's been out for a bit now. This is screwed up beyond beleive!!!
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It does explain it.
OTA system is kinda of a lottery - either your device is a winner, or it isn't.
Just freaking get the OTA update zip and sideload it. You won't need to unlock bootloader for that.
a maguro wrote this.
Kvidli said:
Got my nexus today, hoping for lollipop update, and it says 4.4.4 is the latest one :/
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Got mine a day later, was prompted to update to 4.4.3 followed by 4.4.4 immediately. No 5.0 or 5.0.1 updates yet but my nexus 4 is already on 5.0.1? Guess we'll have to wait.
OTA Update Working now
Hey guys OTA update is working now...
Were you previously under kitkat or did you get the OTA update from 5.0 to 5.0.1?
EDIT: Nevermind (at least for me), tired of waiting, I finally decided to manually load the OTA by following the tutorial here:
http://www.talkandroid.com/guides/b...on-your-nexus-device-download-links-included/
The funny thing is that after my phone was manually updated to 5.0, I automatically received the OTA for 5.0.1
Hey guys, so I really need your help with this.
When I bought my phone it was on Kitkat 4.4.4, after a month, I got the Lollipop 5.0 update via OTA, updated and all ok, then after a while I got the 5.0.1 update, which had this major bug of memory leaking that kept draining battery like crazy.. So I kept searching on how to downgrade to Kitkat 4.4.4 and I followed all those steps to install Kitkat using fastboot/adb tools.. And it worked, I've been running Kitkat now for a week and it's amazing, no memory leak bug, no battery draining.
And just by curiosity, I tried to check the updates, but it says that my system is up to date.. I mean, it doesn't give me the Lollipop 5.0 update nor the 5.0.1.. What's up with that?
Does that mean that I can't update to Lollipop via OTA again? I just need some clarification about this if it is possible Screenshot has other information such as build number, kernel, etc..
PS: I have the CMW custom recovery installed, maybe that's what's stopping the OTA update?
Thanks guys ^^
The update isn't available to everyone all the time...it goes in batches..
Anyway you will eventually get the notification, but you wont be able to install it as you're modified. Anyway, no worries - you know how to do it manually now.
Silvers91 said:
Hey guys, so I really need your help with this.
When I bought my phone it was on Kitkat 4.4.4, after a month, I got the Lollipop 5.0 update via OTA, updated and all ok, then after a while I got the 5.0.1 update, which had this major bug of memory leaking that kept draining battery like crazy.. So I kept searching on how to downgrade to Kitkat 4.4.4 and I followed all those steps to install Kitkat using fastboot/adb tools.. And it worked, I've been running Kitkat now for a week and it's amazing, no memory leak bug, no battery draining.
And just by curiosity, I tried to check the updates, but it says that my system is up to date.. I mean, it doesn't give me the Lollipop 5.0 update nor the 5.0.1.. What's up with that?
Does that mean that I can't update to Lollipop via OTA again? I just need some clarification about this if it is possible Screenshot has other information such as build number, kernel, etc..
PS: I have the CMW custom recovery installed, maybe that's what's stopping the OTA update?
Thanks guys ^^
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Flash the factory image dude or install that
About 3 weeks i installed the Kitkat rom stock on my N5.
Today i tried to see something about the OTA update to Lollipop, and surprisingly i saw isn't it arrived to me.
I just tried to Clear Data from the Google Services Framework- still the same.
Somebody know how can i get it ?
Thanks for answering,
Tal.
Are you rooted? If so, you'll need to unroot to take the OTA.
Sideload this via ADB: clickity-click.
Wait. I think you'll need to sideload the 5.0 update first, and then do the one I linked for 5.0.1. Can somebody confirm this?
First of all don't clear Google services framework data that messes up stuff pretty bad. Second d, this should be in q and a section. Third just flash the 5.0.1 factory images or there is a flash able zip out if you're rooted with custom recovery.
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I agree wid op...
I have used kk for past 2-3 weeks... And notification never popped out...
I flashed manually 5.0 and i got ota for 5.0.1 ... I dont knw whats up wid google ota system...
5.0 ota seems pulled, Got 3 N5 which all have the ota prompt before, but none of them get the ota message now.
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So isn't it only on my device. OK.
Thanks !!
It never was your device. The OTA is rolling out in phases (not sure it's true that it got pulled but I could be wrong)... Just flash the factory images or lollipop stock ROM flashable zip. There are plenty of threads about this in the stickies...
Hey community,
after updating my 5.0 LTE 32 Shield Tablet some month ago and rooting it, I came to the conclusion that I don't really need root, but would like to continue receiving OTAs and have a device that just works.
Prio1:
Have a tablet with the latest updates installed.
Prio2:
As 1, but rooted.
I have made a apps+sysapps backup with Titanium.
What do you recommend as the next step?
Thank you very much.
All the best, Esshahn
Some additions:
1. I noticed I'm actually having 5.0 on my Shield. It's the 5.0.1 update plus the nVidia stuff that comes up all the time in the notification center.
I really just want to undo all root and whatnot actions and have a right out of the box experience on my Shield. I already did some stupid stuff (factory reset) and therefore lost my personal data anyway, so there's nothing to lose.
I noticed this forum isn't really active. If anyone doesn't know the answer, but could point me to the right forum for help that would be nice too.
Thank you
flash the full OTA through recovery: https://forums.geforce.com/default/...hread-released-2-17-15-/post/4464815/#4464815
then reinstall supersu through recovery, no factory reset needed
Thank you for replying.
I got annoyed by it all yesterday and flashed 2.1, now I don't have root or custom recovery anymore.
Now the fun part: When I want to update to 2.2 normally (since it's now supposed to be a standard device without any hacks), it just shows the error robot.
So now I'm stuck with 2.1 and can't move left or right.
After reading all those comments about messed up colors in 2.2 I'm wondering if its actually worth the effort to update?
Any idea on that Bogdacutu?
Thanks,
Esshahn
Esshahn said:
Thank you for replying.
I got annoyed by it all yesterday and flashed 2.1, now I don't have root or custom recovery anymore.
Now the fun part: When I want to update to 2.2 normally (since it's now supposed to be a standard device without any hacks), it just shows the error robot.
So now I'm stuck with 2.1 and can't move left or right.
After reading all those comments about messed up colors in 2.2 I'm wondering if its actually worth the effort to update?
Any idea on that Bogdacutu?
Thanks,
Esshahn
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you can flash the full OTA through TWRP or CWM, no idea why it won't work with stock recovery though
the update supposedly fixes the graphics glitches that appear in various apps on update 2.1, that might be a good reason to update
Thank you!
Actually, since I didn't have CWM installed anymore, I just sideloaded the latest OTA, which worked nice.