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[Q] Which DAC does the Sensation use

I ask because I came from a Nexus S and got so use to the ability to have amazing sound with Voodoo Sound project, and this was because Samsung didn't take full use of the DAC that they used in the Galaxy S line of phones.
I am curious of there is a way to find out what is processing our sound so once we get S-Off and custom roms we can do some things to improve the quality and volume of the headphones and speaker.

According to Anandtech.com
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4471/htc-sensation-4g-review-a-sensational-smartphone/8
the Sensation uses TI's TLV320AIC3254, and the specs are:
http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/tlv320aic3254.html
I do notice that the sound quality thorough headphone is significantly better than my HTC Desire. Wouldn't mind if it can be improved even more.

tsekh501 said:
According to Anandtech.com
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4471/htc-sensation-4g-review-a-sensational-smartphone/8
the Sensation uses TI's TLV320AIC3254, and the specs are:
http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/tlv320aic3254.html
I do notice that the sound quality thorough headphone is significantly better than my HTC Desire. Wouldn't mind if it can be improved even more.
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Yep, no more hissing noise like it was on the desire.

lol, the DAC is from 2008, wonder why they are using that old hardware :s

So it doesn't look like we will be as lucky to really get alot more out of the DAC then what HTC has given us, at least hardware wise.

I think the audio codec is the same one on the Desire HD, and according to Anandtech, the camera sensor is the same too, although the image processing on the new dual-core Snapdragon is superior and thus giving better image capturing quality (and software image processing algorithm plays an important role too).
Giving how HTC rolls out new flagship device a few times a year, it probably makes sense (no punt intended) for them to change only a few components at a time.

Utking said:
lol, the DAC is from 2008, wonder why they are using that old hardware :s
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Doesn't mean it's bad.

lianw said:
Doesn't mean it's bad.
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No ofc not i was just thinking since they have all of the other hardware up to date
But it sounds good through my headphones so i'm happy!
It's a pity it sounds bad through bluetooth though=/

Utking said:
No ofc not i was just thinking since they have all of the other hardware up to date
But it sounds good through my headphones so i'm happy!
It's a pity it sounds bad through bluetooth though=/
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Audio codecs don't change much. Mostly it comes down to power consumption. That is really a good codec. It has potential, but the codec in the galaxy s series is a much nicer one. I think we could tweak it, but we would need somebody that know how to work with drivers. We can always squeeze a little bit more out of things like audio codecs and camera software.

Yeah the Nexus S voodoo control had alot of nice options, as far as enabling the higher playback and record bitrates and sample rates. It had the option for jitter control.
Im not saying it should be the same, but anything we could do to make it better would be better, mainly the speaker volume if this could be controlled. And maybe a headphone amp

[Q] Sound chip quality & support for 64-bit

So how's the sound chip compared to the Iphone 5s and other top smartphones ? I heard that since the chipset is SNP800 , the sound chip should be good too, but i'm no pro and have yet to try the headphone out.
Can anyone provide an explanation ?
2nd question (to avoid making 2 threads) :
I know kitkat 4.4 is only 32 bit now , but if for some reason Google releases android 5.0 in the future and it's 64 bit ...will the nexus chipset support it ?

1. Sound is good
2. Doesn't matter

[hfm] said:
1. Sound is good
2. Doesn't matter
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Not sure what you meant for the 2nd answer ?

64 bit computing hardly matters in the mobile space currently. Currently it is only relevant in marketing.
To answer the question. You are still using 32-bit hardware even if 64-bit capable software came out. Odds are Google will not release a 64-bit exclusive operating system in the near future.
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ravenwood27 said:
So how's the sound chip compared to the Iphone 5s and other top smartphones ? I heard that since the chipset is SNP800 , the sound chip should be good too, but i'm no pro and have yet to try the headphone out.
Can anyone provide an explanation ?
it ?
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According to the test done by GSMarena, the Nexus 5 sound quality is no where near iOS devices. It has similar sound performance compared to the LG G2 but lower volume output. http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_nexus_5-review-1011p7.php As the graph is shown, there is quite a lot of "wobbling" which isn't good compared to the iOS devices (link is the 5s sound quality: http://www.gsmarena.com/apple_iphone_5s-review-994p7.php). This is assuming you actually rip songs from CDs, download 320+ kbps (if you don't know what this is you don't download it), download from Google Play or iTunes, rather than using an app or random website to get free music. Otherwise it wouldn't matter what device you get to listen to music since the sound file wouldn't have enough detail to actually use the iPhone soundboard properly. From experience even the Voodoo sound board on the Galaxy S3+ (not sure about the S4) doesn't reach the levels of iOS devices especially on loudness and clarity. Otherwise for the casual listener, the sound quality on the Nexus 5 should be more than enough unless you're really serious about sound quality.
Edit: according to the benchmarks done on the same website, the Samsung S4 holds it ground fairly well but there is some wobble at later parts of the graph and that's just nitpicking. Won't be hearing the effects of that unless you have songs that are 500 kbps+ and are playing on a good speaker.

RoboWarriorSr said:
According to the test done by GSMarena, the Nexus 5 sound quality is no where near iOS devices. It has similar sound performance compared to the LG G2 but lower volume output. http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_nexus_5-review-1011p7.php As the graph is shown, there is quite a lot of "wobbling" which isn't good compared to the iOS devices (link is the 5s sound quality: http://www.gsmarena.com/apple_iphone_5s-review-994p7.php). This is assuming you actually rip songs from CDs, download 320+ kbps (if you don't know what this is you don't download it), download from Google Play or iTunes, rather than using an app or random website to get free music. Otherwise it wouldn't matter what device you get to listen to music since the sound file wouldn't have enough detail to actually use the iPhone soundboard properly. From experience even the Voodoo sound board on the Galaxy S3+ (not sure about the S4) doesn't reach the levels of iOS devices especially on loudness and clarity. Otherwise for the casual listener, the sound quality on the Nexus 5 should be more than enough unless you're really serious about sound quality.
Edit: according to the benchmarks done on the same website, the Samsung S4 holds it ground fairly well but there is some wobble at later parts of the graph and that's just nitpicking. Won't be hearing the effects of that unless you have songs that are 500 kbps+ and are playing on a good speaker.
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This is what I really dont get. I had an iphone 5s for a couple weeks and everything besides the earphones that came in the box sounded horrible. Zero bass, zero highs, just the mids. Also had the HTC one, which is supposed to have a great audio chip, and it did. That phone soudned the best out of all the phone's I've had. (I turned beats off, that is just pure junk). Compared to the HTC one, this phone is actually very good. I still get deep bass, and good highs with no distortion even at high volumes. With the iphone, anything higher than 50%, things got a bit crackly and distorted especially hooked up to my speakers.
OP: The sound chip, in my opinion (I listen to a LOT of music and am pretty much a huge audiophile.), is very good. As some users said, the pure loudness of it isn't that great, but the quality is very good. Not as good as the HTC one, but very close.
EDIT: Quote from GSM arena pretty much saying what I said.
The scores stay close to perfect even when you plug in a pair of headphones. The stereo crosstalk worsens a bit but the rest of the readings are virtually unaffected (frequency response actually improves a bit). Unfortunately, the volume levels remained just as uninspiring.
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aooga said:
This is what I really dont get. I had an iphone 5s for a couple weeks and everything besides the earphones that came in the box sounded horrible. Zero bass, zero highs, just the mids. Also had the HTC one, which is supposed to have a great audio chip, and it did. That phone soudned the best out of all the phone's I've had. (I turned beats off, that is just pure junk). Compared to the HTC one, this phone is actually very good. I still get deep bass, and good highs with no distortion even at high volumes. With the iphone, anything higher than 50%, things got a bit crackly and distorted especially hooked up to my speakers.
OP: The sound chip, in my opinion (I listen to a LOT of music and am pretty much a huge audiophile.), is very good. As some users said, the pure loudness of it isn't that great, but the quality is very good. Not as good as the HTC one, but very close.
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The review on the website show that the HTC One has a excellent audio output but at best decent audio quality. The bass is overemphasized but nothing compared to the One X which was a disaster in terms of audio quality. Realized that the iPhone sound quality may sound worse to many people since it has a "flat" and stabilized audio quality which is what actually is looked for. Many companies tweak the audio to make it more "pleasing" to the masses and overshadow the bad soundboard which include bigger bass (blame Dr. Dre).
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RoboWarriorSr said:
The review on the website show that the HTC One has a excellent audio output but at best decent audio quality. The bass is overemphasized but compared to the One X which was a disaster in terms of audio quality. Realized that the iPhone sound quality may sound worse to many people since it has a "flat" and stabilized audio quality which is what actually is looked for. Many companies tweak the audio to make it more "pleasing" to the masses and overshadow the bad soundboard.
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I know flat sound is technically prefered in benchmarks and things, but I haven't met a single person that actually likes listening to it. Anyway, that was just my opinion. IMO, no matter how technically good the quality is on the iphone, I still think that it sounds horrible. And the software is hideous/crashed way too often.
EDIT: I see you have an iphone. Do you have a N5 as well, or are you just posting here? I'm not trying to be an idiot, just wondering if you have compared the quality between the two

N5 sound sucks.. I'm biased because I upgraded from a HTC one lol. Everything else is solid with my n5
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The built-in speaker is mediocre to crappy. The audio through other connections is quite good, IMO.
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Ajfink said:
The built-in speaker is mediocre to crappy. The audio through other connections is quite good, IMO.
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its a bug. http://www.androidcentral.com/nexus...one-and-software-may-be-hurting-what-you-hear

aooga said:
I know flat sound is technically prefered in benchmarks and things, but I haven't met a single person that actually likes listening to it. Anyway, that was just my opinion. IMO, no matter how technically good the quality is on the iphone, I still think that it sounds horrible. And the software is hideous/crashed way too often.
EDIT: I see you have an iphone. Do you have a N5 as well, or are you just posting here? I'm not trying to be an idiot, just wondering if you have compared the quality between the two
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I'm just basing this off the gsmarena benchmark and from previous experience. Not in my sig but I have a HTC Desire HD and Acer A100 running custom ROMs since both devices are not supported. I hopefully plan to get a Moto G since I kinda would like to get an android device that is current and not gimped by some developers *nvidia*. I tend to randomly post in random device forums usually trying to get up to date with new devices. I have listened to Galaxy S 3 and One X since my friends have them so I have an idea how they sound. Nexus 5 just came out so gsmarena was the only site that had soundboard benchmarks, but like I said it works more than enough for most people and the tweaks made are probably for the better. If you wondering I do prefer the "flat" sound since my speakers don't play well with equalizers especially the Beats one in my HTC. I also tend to listen to more instrumentals than the average listener so the "flatness" help bring out the other instruments in the background that usually would be hidden by the bass or treble.
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zephiK said:
its a bug. http://www.androidcentral.com/nexus...one-and-software-may-be-hurting-what-you-hear
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I really fail to see how that was overlooked. Hopefully they push it out sooner than later.

iPhone5 & 5s have a relatively high output impedance. They'll be a little more temperamental when used with third party buds.
I don't know if we have an impedance reading for the Nexus 5.
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If listening to music, just use Noozxoide E.
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There is definitely a bug wrt audio on the N5, but the speaker is also very crappy and so easy to completely obstruct (v similar positioning on iPhones and some Lumias)

iOStoAndroid said:
There is definitely a bug wrt audio on the N5, but the speaker is also very crappy and so easy to completely obstruct (v similar positioning on iPhones and some Lumias)
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It's going to obstruct wherever they put it. Top, bottom or back especially if you put it in your pocket. The Optimus G had such a high speaker volume even though the speaker was just a small slit in the back and the back was flat.
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You obviously never used one of the devices I mentioned above then.
It's the only thing that stops the N5 being the perfect device (all right maybe a bit better battery life)

Phone call:
On Handset is good...no issues.
On Speaker is ok...on full volume sound distortion is evident.
On Headphones is good but other person can't listen clearly unless I hold headphone mic in front of my lips...or speak loud.
Music:
On Speaker is terrible.
On headphones (Klipsch S4A)...quality is really good for 320kbps mp3 files...I feel best audio quality is between 50% - 70% of volume level.

How does it fare against the HTC One M8?

I'm specifically interested in audio port quality and volume. If any one has experienced sound on both these devices, please do comment.

Prasad said:
I'm specifically interested in audio port quality and volume. If any one has experienced sound on both these devices, please do comment.
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I think almost everyone knows htc wins over xperia in audio...so decide cleverly both have their own features...

unmaskedfalesh said:
I think almost everyone knows htc wins over xperia in audio...so decide cleverly both have their own features...
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Is there a newer gen phone in comparison to M8 audio at all?

The G3 is supposed to have audio output as clear as the M8 but no integrated AMP.

At this rate, you're better off waiting for the new flagships to come out. MWC 2015 is in March so new phones are just over the horizon such as Xperia Z4, Galaxy S6, G4, etc.
But to answer your question, HTC One's audio quality is better. I see that your sig says HTC One M7. If you're in the market for a phone now I'd go with the Z3 or Galaxy S5 just to have a different taste of android (unless your a big fan of Sense).

Prasad said:
I'm specifically interested in audio port quality and volume. If any one has experienced sound on both these devices, please do comment.
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In general the M8 is louder (both speakers and headphone output) and overall the sound is more crisp and punchy, but you have almost no control over it. The only thing you can do is turn off BoomSound, there's no equalizer and no additional settings. So personally I found that for specific kinds of music it sounds awesome, but it's just not as versatile as I'd want it to be.
Speaking of the Z3, in comparison to the M8 it lacks volume and punchiness, but overall it's more balanced and offers much more settings you can play with. You have manual EQ, several sound profiles and surround settings, and the Z3 supports digital noise cancelling, if that's important to you.
So they both have pros and cons, it comes down to your personal preferences. Overall I'd choose the Z3 over M8, not only for sound quality, but because in many other categories the Z3 is just better than the M8.

melogray said:
In general the M8 is louder (both speakers and headphone output) and overall the sound is more crisp and punchy, but you have almost no control over it. The only thing you can do is turn off BoomSound, there's no equalizer and no additional settings. So personally I found that for specific kinds of music it sounds awesome, but it's just not as versatile as I'd want it to be.
Speaking of the Z3, in comparison to the M8 it lacks volume and punchiness, but overall it's more balanced and offers much more settings you can play with. You have manual EQ, several sound profiles and surround settings, and the Z3 supports digital noise cancelling, if that's important to you.
So they both have pros and cons, it comes down to your personal preferences. Overall I'd choose the Z3 over M8, not only for sound quality, but because in many other categories the Z3 is just better than the M8.
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Well as per my personal experience i would say the speakers in z3 is downside..its degrade over z2 which sounds n performs better... Using both i feel z3 speakers are inferior to z2 and also how much ever yhe quality of sound is..it should be loud enough fr that caliber of device although it's a water resistance device.. Sony should make it better...m8 is gud in audio..they hav built in amplifier so cant compare fully to z3..onlu thing i dnt like much about m8 is its ui..Xperia ui is best fr me..but if u really want better audio..go to store urself n see the difference.. Don't regret later..also u could wait for newer device launch...

I did some in-store testing by myself. While the M8 was noticeably louder, the Z3 sounded more accurate and crisp to my ears. I got the Z3 Besides, the Z3 is pretty much superior in all the other areas. And I really couldn't wait longer for the market to produce exactly what I want. Everyone knows that never happens.

Glad you like it, enjoy!

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Well as per my personal experience i would say the speakers in z3 is downside..its degrade over z2 which sounds n performs better...
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Can't really say that from my experience... Z3 is definitely an upgrade from the Z2. In all honesty (speaking of speaker quality) the Z3 sounds even better than my M7.

melogray said:
Can't really say that from my experience... Z3 is definitely an upgrade from the Z2. In all honesty (speaking of speaker quality) the Z3 sounds even better than my M7.
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Personally, I couldn't care less about the external speaker quality. How often does one really use that anyway? It's the quality with headphones output that really matters to audiophiles

melogray said:
Can't really say that from my experience... Z3 is definitely an upgrade from the Z2. In all honesty (speaking of speaker quality) the Z3 sounds even better than my M7.
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Well it completely depends upon the personal taste..but Z3 has gone down with latest update..lets hope lollipop does it away..waiting for the update ..but as per M7 my roommate has M7 dual and his half audio is equal to my Z3's full audio at ClearAudio+ thats what i hate...removing XLoud was a bad move from Sony..imo
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Prasad said:
Personally, I couldn't care less about the external speaker quality. How often does one really use that anyway? It's the quality with headphones output that really matters to audiophiles
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Well its one reason i compromised. i am too not completely satisfied with any of the mobile phone but its not possible to get all..one or other we hav to ignore..

Still a good choice in 2016?

Been using the moto x 2013 for some time now and its just about perfect. I dont game, my use is heavy on web, text. The problem with my X is that the microphone doesnt seem to work anymore, I have to carry a wired or bluetooth to talk on the phone...which is a pain.
I want something small, similar in size, to replace it. Ive narrowed it down to a S4 or LG G2. Which would you guys recommend? Anyone else make a move from the X 2013 to one of these models?
Thanks,
Mario

If it is bought new, sure. But second hand you can get more recent models at the same prices.
Based solely on the specs, I would go for the G2. When I'm looking for a phone the first thing I look at is the performance, and, looking at the hardware, the G2 is better equipped than the S4. But this is just on paper.
For all I know, the real world performance may be the same.
I am satisfied with the S4

Thanks. Yeah either the G2 or S4 new is what I want, just curious to hear what folks think getting a 2.5 year old device. Id get a new flagship but all of them are just too big.

Get the snapdragon variant. The exynos overheats

S4 is still a very good phone: it can run without problems marshmallow custom roms and you can play on it big games like fifa 16 or asphalt. But if you want a good new phone and almost same dimensions like s4, I recommand OnePlus X.

I don't think S4 will be a good idea now. I had both versions (GT-I9500 and GT-I9505) before I moved for Xperia Z3 D6643. Unfortunately, I have damaged my Z3 and until it got fixed, I will be using the GT-i9505 again.
This phone is driving me crazy, even with max brightness, it's impossible (looks like a black screen) to use it under sunligh. 3G, and 4G (not to talk about GPS) data drains a huge % of battery, average screen on time is about 3-3,5h, no battery optmizations.
The Z3 (5.2") and Z3 compact (4.6") are the best options when talking about cost x benefit. Almost 10h screen on time and +800h standby time.

Thanks all. I kept looking and looking for new S4 or g2 but everything out on the Bay was new "other" or sellers with tons of negative feedback. Lots of positive but also much negative. I just saw no trusty sellers. Ended up pulling trigger on oneplus x. Now the wait for it begins. Hope oxygen is decent.
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i have S4 now frome aboute 1 year and realy i am happy with
run very very good i have add the QI modul and it run official rom until custome have no bug ( zero bug ) actualy custom rom have some BT problem and i use My S4 with my smart watch here why BT are important now if you see forum you have big chois of rom ( custom ) and all tested and run very very well on S4 personaly i change phone until S4 are dead hahaha but LG have an Good support in my watch runing official 6.0 firmware LG give quicly update whet are roling out but samsung are still on 5.0.1 bad guys samsung

@spawk
Samsung has it's own update cycle. Most flagships get support from Samsung up to 2 years after released.
And, in 2016, Galaxy S4 won't be supported anymore.
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The Only thing that is extremely bad about i9505 is its sound quality in earphones.On gsmarena u will see they will say it has best audio quality but in reality its far far away from the best its so flat and dumb.Even all the chinese phones sound better than it there is literally no bass at all in the sound and if u increase it by an equalizer the volume decreases alot.

You could also try i9506 S4 LTE+/LTE A
Ive been using this device for a long time now. Recently broke my galaxy note 3's lcd and sold my lg g2. Back on my i9506 and still good. Its not far with g2 in terms performance. Although I use 2 batteries on my i9506 but hey, great device

Usama707 said:
The Only thing that is extremely bad about i9505 is its sound quality in earphones.On gsmarena u will see they will say it has best audio quality but in reality its far far away from the best its so flat and dumb.Even all the chinese phones sound better than it there is literally no bass at all in the sound and if u increase it by an equalizer the volume decreases alot.
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Sound quality depends a lot on the headphones. I hardly think that in-ear ear buds are great at producing bass.
Let's not forget about the song quality too. Anything with a bitrate lower than 320KBPS will have its quality reduced. So always go for 320 or FLAC.
It can have the best sound chip in the world if the headphones are garbage and the music file has static noise.

GDReaper said:
Sound quality depends a lot on the headphones. I hardly think that in-ear ear buds are great at producing bass.
Let's not forget about the song quality too. Anything with a bitrate lower than 320KBPS will have its quality reduced. So always go for 320 or FLAC.
It can have the best sound chip in the world if the headphones are garbage and the music file has static noise.
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Sound is really really flat although its very clear and frequency response is good too but its off no use as the sound is so flat use the same earphone on some other phone or the computer then u will understand how flat I9505 sounds

Usama707 said:
Sound is really really flat although its very clear and frequency response is good too but its off no use as the sound is so flat use the same earphone on some other phone or the computer then u will understand how flat I9505 sounds
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There are always better devices. My 2 other devices (An ZTE Blade and LG P350) sound crappy compared to my S4.
That's why there are mods like viper4android. With the right setup you can get nice bass.
Besides, stuff like this is just a preference. I, for instance, don't like heavy basses. I like to listen to the music, not the "boom boom" sound of the bass.

GDReaper said:
There are always better devices. My 2 other devices (An ZTE Blade and LG P350) sound crappy compared to my S4.
That's why there are mods like viper4android. With the right setup you can get nice bass.
Besides, stuff like this is just a preference. I, for instance, don't like heavy basses. I like to listen to the music, not the "boom boom" sound of the bass.
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I Dont like much bass either but the sound of i9505 compared to Sony Xperia Z2,Galaxy Grand Prime,Galaxy J5,Galaxy Ace 3 and the desktop computer is really flat and lacking.I can hear more elements in even samsungs lowest end phones than i9505 using the same earphones

Stay away from S4.
- Lollipop roms are okay but not very fast.
- Exynos AND snapdragon can overheat actually depends on the kernel.
- microphone distortion (personally) which I can hear as I play back the call recording
- not as fast or smooth as I expected for quad core when I previously had S5 mini
- Sometimes run out of ram but not too often
Generally just don't expect much. The specs look really good on paper but it's actually not that good a phone.
The screen resolution is very high which is nice.
Camera quality / focus is average as well. Slow to focus. Quality average.
I suggest buy 2nd hand used S5 or S6.
Unfortunately no S6 mini.

@fatjoez
1. Really? 5.1.1 is okay for me.
2. I've a device with Intel processor and it does the same thing. In short: All CPUs could overheat.
3. -skipped-
4. Blame Samsung's policies.
5. I'm only felt it on TW ROMs.
And no, I won't buy Exynos devices. Devices with Snapdragon SOCs are the best choice.
But, it's up to you. I couldn't interfere your mind.
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Well I bought a oneplus x. Been using it for one day and I'm not sure about it. Works OK. Speed us good but it's just too big. I just wish I could find a phone the same size as the 2013 moto x. Now I'm thinking either a S4 or Z5 compact. :/
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Xperia XZ Audio Capabilities? Hi-Fi

Hello XZ owners!
I was wondering what the quality of the DAC is on this phone?
I'm looking for phones that have good quality sound/DAC like the axon 7 that doesn't require me to tweak with Viper.
I like the XZ because it's water resistant, micro SD, and allegedly has hi-fi DAC. And Sony is apparently somewhat dev friendly.
Considering selling my OnePlus 3 for this phone, or picking it up as a phone to take out on the weekends.
Any feedback is appreciated.

For me sound quality is as good as it should be. But sound is very subiective, i would recomend to take ur faverite music(flac or what ever format u prefer) on sd card, ur hf and go to retail store which is offering sony and try it by your self. I persoally didnt herd better music like xperia xz and sony mdr-zx770bn, aptx compression is what needed.

Well the volume is not the highest, quality wise its ok but not the best also, its not on the iPhone level lets say. But I'm no sound expert by any means, I'm just comparing sound on the same ear/headphones.
I believe Samsung, LG and HTC have better sound, but its been a while since I used them so I'm not sure.

I would say that since the Nougat Update its very good ! Im using Shure SE215 and I hear no hiss at all (Before Update a bit, after the update none (if only music is played )). Im also owning the A35 Walkman from Sony and I would say that the XZ is very good if you think about it as a Phone and not as a DAP, as a DAP It would be still very nice !

omarfarrah said:
Well the volume is not the highest, quality wise its ok but not the best also, its not on the iPhone level lets say. But I'm no sound expert by any means, I'm just comparing sound on the same ear/headphones.
I believe Samsung, LG and HTC have better sound, but its been a while since I used them so I'm not sure.
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I don't mean to be disrespectful in anyway, but i think the consensus is HTC and LG have much better DAC than Samsung. It's somewhat subjective, but when you compare the v20 and HTC 10 and AXON 7, they have the best sound on flagship phones lately. Thanks for your input ?