so i've been toying with my note edge a little, and as i own a note II i decided to place them together and
check out the differences in the camera viewfinder. at first i launched the rear facing camera, and well..
some differences, but all in all both seem to work great. i did however notice something when i launched the
front facing camera. if the regular selfie mode is activated on the note 4 / note edge, the viewfinder gets REALLY choppy.
all movement is also easier blurred. i tested this by making some minor movements with my phone while taking a few
photos, and sure enough, they ended up being really blurred.
i could literally nearly write alphabets with my fingers if i did it fast enough, that's how laggy the movement was.
i have seen several reviews on youtube where this problem occur, even though most reviewers usually don't
pay that much attention to it. as for me, i find it really annoying. i have to keep the phone extremely still to get sharp shots
due to this viewfinder blur/lag issue.
if i activated the wide angle selfie mode, the viewfinder had normal smooth motion and the photos taken were
sharp and crisp, even if i did some elaborate shaking with my hand while shooting.
i paid a lot of money for this device, which makes the disappointment even bigger knowing people buying phones
at half the price still has a better working front facing camera than i do. sure, it does work and it takes great video and / or pictures..
but this doesn't make it flawless. why the normal selfie mode is so choppy and laggy i do not know. pretty surprised this hasn't been fixed,
as i have noticed several others with the same problem.
how about you? is your front facing camera also making the viewfinder seem laggy / choppy in selfie mode, compared to the wide angle selfie mode?
i'd love to hear your opinions on this. :good:
niqen said:
so i've been toying with my note edge a little, and as i own a note II i decided to place them together and
check out the differences in the camera viewfinder. at first i launched the rear facing camera, and well..
some differences, but all in all both seem to work great. i did however notice something when i launched the
front facing camera. if the regular selfie mode is activated on the note 4 / note edge, the viewfinder gets REALLY choppy.
all movement is also easier blurred. i tested this by making some minor movements with my phone while taking a few
photos, and sure enough, they ended up being really blurred.
i could literally nearly write alphabets with my fingers if i did it fast enough, that's how laggy the movement was.
i have seen several reviews on youtube where this problem occur, even though most reviewers usually don't
pay that much attention to it. as for me, i find it really annoying. i have to keep the phone extremely still to get sharp shots
due to this viewfinder blur/lag issue.
if i activated the wide angle selfie mode, the viewfinder had normal smooth motion and the photos taken were
sharp and crisp, even if i did some elaborate shaking with my hand while shooting.
i paid a lot of money for this device, which makes the disappointment even bigger knowing people buying phones
at half the price still has a better working front facing camera than i do. sure, it does work and it takes great video and / or pictures..
but this doesn't make it flawless. why the normal selfie mode is so choppy and laggy i do not know. pretty surprised this hasn't been fixed,
as i have noticed several others with the same problem.
how about you? is your front facing camera also making the viewfinder seem laggy / choppy in selfie mode, compared to the wide angle selfie mode?
i'd love to hear your opinions on this. :good:
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hi there !
i had a bit choppy main camera, it doesn't bother when taking photos but it shows up when i play recorded videos
So i decided to test out the camera on my V20 in both well lit and poorly lit conditions. I took several pictures of each, focusing on different points in the shots. In almost all of them, the phone never turned on HDR when it would have been preferable to do so. Don't even get me started on the viewfinder lag and long focusing times in low light.
I suppose you could always have HDR enabled, but it's kind of disappointing that a new flagship phone can't seem to get something so basic right. I love this phone, but i REALLY hope LG can fix this camera in an update.
This is probably a silly question but went out this morning to take some shots and if I am honest I wasn't that impressed with the auto focus. My previous phone was an s7 edge so i have probably been spoiled bu the superfast focus speeds but considering this has phase/contract and laser autofocus i thought it would have been faster.
At times I did feel it struggles to find focus, this makes me question the laser auto focus. On my previous LG G4 and nexus 6p you could actually see the laser auto focus working, a small red light (one assumes the laser) emits from the black square near the camera module on both those phones but i don't see anything from the xz premium in dark or light conditions. Are you supposed to see the laser auto focus on the these units? Can anybody try there and see if they can see it.
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This is probably a silly question but went out this morning to take some shots and if I am honest I wasn't that impressed with the auto focus. My previous phone was an s7 edge so i have probably been spoiled bu the superfast focus speeds but considering this has phase/contract and laser autofocus i thought it would have been faster.
At times I did feel it struggles to find focus, this makes me question the laser auto focus. On my previous LG G4 and nexus 6p you could actually see the laser auto focus working, a small red light (one assumes the laser) emits from the black square near the camera module on both those phones but i don't see anything from the xz premium in dark or light conditions. Are you supposed to see the laser auto focus on the these units? Can anybody try there and see if they can see it.
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Try shooting the back of the phone with a camera. Most of the cameras can detect infrared light while humans can't. You will see it as a purple dot.
It's better to use another phone for this because some stand-alone cameras use infrared filter.
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Try shooting the back of the phone with a camera. Most of the cameras can detect infrared light while humans can't. You will see it as a purple dot.
It's better to use another phone for this because some stand-alone cameras use infrared filter.
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Yeah you're right its was there firing away.
Still a fantastic camera even if i am being picky about the auto focus.
Hello to all,
Just got my OnePlus 8.
When checking the cameras, I noticed a significant difference between the normal and wide angle cameras.
The wide angle is much darker and sometimes seems to have problems focusing.
I have not found many threads on Google (and the few that I found mention blurriness, not darkness).
Does anyone else have this issue? Could it be a hardware issue?
Thanks for any advice.
So very strange. After a lot of trying last night, I wrote the post above.
This morning, I can't reproduce the issue. Both images look very similar in terms of lighting.
Il post back of three issue comes back or if I come to understand what happened in the first place.
It's normal due to hardware limitations. The wide angle has a much smaller aperture (very common in camera lenses and phone camera).
Smaller aperture means less light can be captured, think of it as your eyes
If you almost close your eyes (small aperture) what you see is darker.
That's why despite the same megapixel count etc, wide angle photos are darker and noisier, and if the software try to compensate , it needs a longer shutter speed (longer shooting time), longer shutter speeds means shakes and movements are captured, resulting in blurry photos, and since the wide angle has no OIS, it's even more likely to come out blurry if you aren't super still while shooting.
Hope this helped
I have two snapdragon s22 ultra one purchased last week another a month ago
Whenever I reach 10x zoom slider (either directly or even by sliding, from any lens) it switches to 10x lens for a split second and then switches back to 3x lens and zooms digitally.
This happens irrespective of lighting conditions and distance of subject.
Comparing both my s22 ultras side by side I was able to confirm that this problem exists only in one of the phone and not in the other model that phone keeps 10x optical zoom and does not switching to 3x zoom.
Options
A. Any solution to this problem would be highly appreciated?
B. Want to keep formatting as last option.
C. The phone is just 7 days old shall i take it to service centre.
One possible clue, I can make that happen on my S22U in situations where the 3X lens can focus, but the 10X lens can't, for example something about 6 inches away. Then the switchover is delayed as you zoom until about 14x. I'm not sure if it is using the laser ranging for that situation or not, but possibly if the laser thinks you are close, for example taking a picture through glass on a window, it might not switch to the 10x lens until 14x.
But as I said I have another unit at my home.. thuis one constantly switch only after 15 x and not 10x. The other unit is doing perfectly fine for same subject
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But as I said I have another unit at my home.. thuis one constantly switch only after 15 x and not 10x. The other unit is doing perfectly fine for same subject
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Return it. I had a similar problem with a Verizon 10+5g with the wide angle lens. Frequent camera error messages turned into always camera error message when selecting wide angle. Sometimes a tap on the corner to a hard surface would fix it but that stopped as a solution after a few times.
I would say if possible, return or change it. My first one was no issue with camera but heating issue.. replaced one; Most of the time randomly pick the regular lens instead of 10x lens. Also at 10x zoom color suddenly changes to fuzzy and dull.
Replaced. This one no color issue but 10x n 30x n 100x has focus issue. Cant focus correctly, output image is most of the time blurry which my first ome had no issue. But i decided to keep as i dont have that time to go n chamge again. I also don't keep phone too long, and i rarely take pic.
ryudhruv said:
I have two snapdragon s22 ultra one purchased last week another a month ago
Whenever I reach 10x zoom slider (either directly or even by sliding, from any lens) it switches to 10x lens for a split second and then switches back to 3x lens and zooms digitally.
This happens irrespective of lighting conditions and distance of subject.
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How can we know which lens is being used by the phone at 10x? I want to confirm if my unit is not faulty.
linom said:
How can we know which lens is being used by the phone at 10x? I want to confirm if my unit is not faulty.
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After taking the picture check in the picture details the focal length:
10x lens has 27,2 mm
3x lens has 7,9 mm
1x lens has 6,4 mm
0,6x lens has 2,2 mm
You can also just put your finger in front of the lenses to see which one it is using.
I have the same problem here
Any way to solve it?
I've seen this happen in low light. The Periscope 10x zoom is f/4.9, while the 3x zoom is f/2.4. I don't know what the optics of the periscope are, but with the extra reflections/prisms the "t-stop" is probable closer to 5.6 for the periscope lens. That means that the 10x lens gathers approximately 4 times less light, and sometimes the phone seems to stick with cropping the brighter 3x lens in low light because there just isn't enough light. Sometimes in really low light it seems to use the main lens as well.
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I've seen this happen in low light. The Periscope 10x zoom is f/4.9, while the 3x zoom is f/2.4. I don't know what the optics of the periscope are, but with the extra reflections/prisms the "t-stop" is probable closer to 5.6 for the periscope lens. That means that the 10x lens gathers approximately 4 times less light, and sometimes the phone seems to stick with cropping the brighter 3x lens in low light because there just isn't enough light. Sometimes in really low light it seems to use the main lens as well.
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Sure, but it's strange, because my dad's s22 ultra does not do this, only mine, in same condition. Thinking about changing phone, its my 3 galaxy with problem
Do you think have any way to solve it?
use the expertraw
GabNeumann said:
Sure, but it's strange, because my dad's s22 ultra does not do this, only mine, in same condition. Thinking about changing phone, its my 3 galaxy with problem
Do you think have any way to solve it?
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There is definitely some weird logic that dictates which lens it will use regardless of the zoom level that you request. Is there enough light, can I focus, is the subject too close for the 10x lens or are they shooting through glass and the laser misreads the distance as really close; if one of those things is true it switches lenses.. It happens when you try to take a macro shot too, you can't really control which lens it is going to use and a lot of times you get a crop view that is lower quality from one of the main lenses instead of what you wanted. I've played around with it a lot, and I'm still not sure exactly what it is doing. For example, start out with the 10x zoom about 10 feet from something, then move closer and closer. At some point you will see a little jump in the image as it switches to one of the other lenses without telling you. Then back away slowly, and it does not appear to switch back, keeping the crop from the other lens; I don't know when it switches back. Still, it should not happen all the time, especially with good light and a good subject that is far enough away for the 10x, it COULD be a hardware problem with your device but you also could be falling victim to the complex logic they are using.
Hi All. Similar problem. I was taking close ups of flowers using the PHOTO mode... I had blotchy results at 10x. I did some investigations. It turned out that when using the PRO mode, all was well. I first thought that it was some weird image processing that Samsung did, but that's not true. The truth is that the phone used the 3x camera at 10x magnification on the PHOTO mode! I then discovered that it only switched to the telephoto lens at precisely 15x magnification. Very weird. I can get very good results at 15x. But, when using PRO, the switch occurs at 10x. Samsung - what is going on? It looks like purely a software issue? Paul
Update: I've just restarted the phone. All back to normal and as intended. Lenses switch at precisely 10x.
Update 2: No, this is not due to a restart. The same issue again. The switch sometimes takes place at 10x, but if the phone is to close to the object, the switch will take place at precisely 15x. Super weird and inconsistent.
Update 3: Ok, so the switch between the lenses (on the PHOTO mode) is dictated by the distance between the object and the camera. If the phone is too close to the object, the phone will want to use the 3x lens. Absolutely no issue for long distance shots. These switch at 10x. You have to be super carful with telephoto closeups as you can basically ruin the shot thinking that you are on the 10x lens but in fact you are on the 3x lens. The PRO mode does not have that issue, but then changing iso and shutter speed are a bit hit and miss as well.
Worst still, this is also happening on the VIDEO mode.
For me the middle lens out of three is used for 1&3 zoom and small lens under flash is used for 10x in standard mode. At least kind of, seems to switch depending on distance and also the lower of the three is used for 10x sometimes......
When in pro or expert raw it behave less erratic and uses the lens I choose.
Highly annoying tbh.
I recently discovered this issue and its really embarrassing. Not many of us will go into pro mode and fiddle but as a simple point and shoot. This is terrible.
I am on the latest Software AVF7. My 10x photos keep looking like trash and there is a lot of light around. But i discovered that if you open a picture within the gallery while at 10x zoom and return to the view finder, it switches to the optical and stays. Has to be a bug rather than a defect.
It doesn't seem to be an app bug. I am also on AVF7 and cannot replicate the fault. If it is an app bug, then resetting the camera, clearing the camera app's cache and data should clear it up.
How to verify if this problem is also on my default samsung camera? As far as I'm using my phone, I saw nothing wrong with those zoom lens, but just want to check to make sure.
roffemckivi said:
For me the middle lens out of three is used for 1&3 zoom and small lens under flash is used for 10x in standard mode.
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Does this also happen daytimes outside and at distances >2 m?
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It doesn't seem to be an app bug. I am also on AVF7 and cannot replicate the fault. If it is an app bug, then resetting the camera, clearing the camera app's cache and data should clear it up.
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Did all the above and still the same. Sigh