Opo vs xiaomi mi4? - ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Being in US, I didn't know much about xiaomi phones until lately. Price wise, they are about the same at $350.
If you have used both phones, can you share your experience?

acegolfer said:
Being in US, I didn't know much about xiaomi phones until lately. Price wise, they are about the same at $350.
If you have used both phones, can you share your experience?
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I own the OPO and a buddy of mine the Mi 4.
We got them both roughly the same time and both enjoy our devices.
I handed his phone for an hour and he used mine for a bit.
Immediately when you hold the Mi4:
-it's heavier and feels more premium
-smaller screen, but pretty large bezels, so size is the same
After some longer usage:
-I hate Miui 5. Miui 6 looks nice, but 5 just doesn't feel finished if you understand me. But you can always flash a "normal" AOSP ROM if you want.
-it gets hot pretty fast!
After comparing:
-Performance is the same. Very fast and fluent.
-Apparently the battery life on the OPO is better, but it might also be my bud's app/ROM/kernel setup.
So they are very similar
I like the OPO better and my friend likes the Mi4 better...
You have to pick of course
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From Which Phone to the Moto G?

Curious as to what phone you guys are currently using or coming from prior to your decision to acquire the new Moto G. Please state your last or, if you're like me and waiting delivery of your (ordered) Moto G, your current phone.
Me: Nexus 4
Why? I love the Nexus 4 for its functionality and especially for being in the forefront of the developer community. Until 4.4, it got all the updates right away. And even after that, 4.4.1 and 4.4.2 with their respective fixes were issued rather quickly by Google. The dual pane glass design is beautiful and unique, albeit potentially fragile (as some N4 owners have had the misfortune of discovering). And for me, the camera isn't nearly as bad as some have made it out to me. It's no iPhone camera to be sure, but a lot of the the grievances can certainly be chalked up to poor photo-taking techniques (eg., one-handed shots causing 'camera shake').
But for all its positives, I really wish it had better battery life. I'm forever flashing and re-flashing and configuring new kernels and, to a lesser extent, ROMs in the hopes of eeking out a bit more battery life. I regularly read some users of certain kernels getting 4, 5 or even 6 (!) hours of Screen-on-time ("SOT"). I'm lucky to get around 3 hrs of SOT. I check and try to control wakelocks. I undervolt. I turn off GPS and location reporting. I would like to leave Google Now on but dare not. I lower my max CPU to something less than what the chip is designed for. I even 'Greenify'! All to little or no avail. While the battery is enough to last me the day on 50-60% of the days, I do find myself having to curtail usage of my phone around 3-7pm just to make sure it lasts until I get home. I'm often on the road and not near an electrical outlet for a quick mid-day charge (and hate carrying an additionaal portable charger) so battery life is the paramount consideration. And because of this, I've decided I'm willing to give up some of the things I've been looking for such as 1080p (although I can't significantly tell the difference between that and a 720p screen less than 5"), maybe a larger screen (not that important), and LTE (this would be the biggest trade-off of desired features for me). If battery life were not that important, I would just pick up a Nexus 5. Battery life aside, I've been reading that most everything else about the Moto G is rather on par to the N4. Sure the camera resolution might be slightly less, the phone casing a little less elegant and the memory 1 gig smaller, but I'm not a strict adherent to specs as the only determinant of what phone I use.
And, of course, there's the PRICE in the Moto G's favor! Because it's relatively cheap, I certainly don't intend to be babying the G, when getting a replacement in the unlikely event of phone failure, isn't nearly as major a consideration as if my daily phone were an iPhone or most any other premium phones.
Experience so far with the Moto G, if any: None so far. I'm one of those who has a phone ordered from Motorola and waiting for delivery (via my home in California) out to me in Asia. In fact, I've got two on order -- one for my wife and one for myself.
That's enough of me. How about you?
I bought my daughter one for Christmas.
Because iPhone 4S.
I had a Nexus 4 which I sold a bought an iPhone 5c. While the iPhone is a fantastic phone I missed Android. So I sold the 5c , bought a Moto G and has £230 left over. The Moto G is great, probably one of the best Android phones of owned especially for the money.
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I got it to replace my LG Optimus 2X.
The LG was a fine phone but it kind of started to fall apart and it was slow and clunky in comparison to the Moto G. It just wasn't a very nice experience anymore and I wanted something new for some time now. Wiping everything and re-flashing CM regularly was pretty much the only way to keep it going at a reasonable level.
So far I'm extremely happy with the Moto G. It's pretty fast, has a lovely screen, it runs all the apps that I use extremely well and the hotspot feature works like a charm. That was another problem with the LG, it kept dropping the connection.
I had a Galaxy S2. Was broken and couldn't fix it. And then this phone came in stores. Saved me that money and bought it. Really happy with it so far.
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Galaxy SII HD LTE was my old phone. Thx to XDA it wasn't a total waste of a phone, but time to support Motorola over Samsung.
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Samsung Galaxy Nexus
HTC One XL... broke the screen one morning, the Moto G had just been released.
Battery life is WAY better, it is faster and it fits better in my hand....
Should have gotten the 16gb version though =P
From moto Defy+ running Gingerbread, it really was time to get something newer...
Nexus S.
HTC Amaze 4G
Absolutely love the camera on this baby.
Time to get closer to Kitkat once HTC decided to shove this baby down the gutter. Had high hopes didn't even get Jellybean :crying:
T-mobile Samsung galaxy S2
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Nexus 5. Seriously...
S4, still have it. The idea was to use this as a second phone but after a few days of using it I'm not sure I'll use my s4 again. That's not to say its a better phone, it's not. But its not as far off as the price would suggest. It does everything I need just as well, the biggest thing I miss is faster downloads. Great phone, a mini nexus and you'd be hard pressed to see any difference in performance between this and a nexus 4.
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LG p880
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Nexus 5. Plan to spend the money I saved on a tablet.
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HTC vivid
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LG P920 (Optimus 3D).
Atrix 2
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Who has made the jump to Nexus 6P?

If anyone has, please share your views. I for one don't see how the 6P is better other than the fact that it has a terrific camera. But the other things are pretty much what we get on the OPO. Isn't it?
Hi there, I immediately jumped ship once the 6P came out, and have been loving it.
I don't use the camera much, but there are 4 things that have stood out since getting it:
1. It feels sooooo much better in the hand.
It's slightly wider, but not really that noticeable. The metal feels much better than the sandpaper of the 64 gig OPO, and the device is just well constructed all around.
2. All the fingerprints!
The fingerprint reader is freaking great! At my work we have to encrypt and lock our phones if we want to connect to the exchange server, and having the fingerprint reader means I am not constantly typing in my pin code, and that reader is FAST.
3. NO FINGERPRINTS!
Seriously, I don't know how this miracle was pulled off, but when I had the OPO, I was cleaning it all the damn time, and it would immediately get dirty again. I swear I don't have any gloves made of pizza, but I feel like that wouldn't even be a big deal on the 6P. Whatever mixture of Olympian sweat and unicorn tears they coated this glorious screen with works like a freaking charm, because I rarely have to consciously clean the screen. Most of the time, just being pocketbound is enough.
4. It works as intended.
This might not affect everyone, but for the two OPO's I ordered, (one for me, one for a friend) both had connectivity problems fairly regularly. It took a lot of flashing and tinkering to get mine semi-stable on a rom I liked, and his is still borked because the flashing process on his phone didn't go super smoothly.
What I miss:
Double tap to wake.
That is all.
@ak for sure ^^
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@ak for sure ^^
Sent from my bacon!!!!!
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AK went to the 6P so I don't see how that applies ? unless you stick to last CM12.1 nightly
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I'm hoping the rumors about the 6P on T-Mobile EIP are true
I did, after a few weeks with it I have to say that there is a bit of buyers remorse, but not enough for me to send it back. My primary issue with the opo was that it has a good camera not a great camera. I take a lot of photos and wanted a better camera. I did in fact get what I wanted.
The feel, its nice but its super slippery and I have to say that even though it's got a metal shell it doesn't feel very tough, I am treating it much more gingerly than I did my opo, its obvious that these phones have a bending issue. Did I mention its slippery?
The OS is nice, but I was already used to it thanks to sultan and his cm13.
I have a very good fingerprint reader, but I've been a big user of smartlock so it doesn't get used very much and Android pay is still out of reach since it won't work on a rooted phone.
Performance is good, but again I don't notice much difference day to day other than when the sucker gets really hot and slows down. It does cool down really fast.
I spend a lot of time in a car and have to use the USB a to C converter, so I don't get quick charge.
It can doze for days, but with regular use it dies fasted than my opo did.
The audio sucks without viper4android.
My happiest surprise is that it works flawlessly with my Acura hands free(I have had no phones that have) but the a2dp has anomalies.
The screen is beautiful, but not than much more beautiful than my adjusted opo screen.
There are no off screen gestures, it doesn't sound like a big deal but it is, you can enable double tap to wake but you have to do it every time you restart.
I have T-Mobile lte connection issues I didn't have with my opo. Not bad, but annoying.
The theming engine doesn't work for me.
When I say "that much more" what I mean is hundreds of dollars more. The phone would be easier to justify if it was at least $100 less.
Oneplus reset my expectations...
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I'm hoping the rumors about the 6P on T-Mobile EIP are true
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Huahwei will finance it for you, but the interest might be a bit high.
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I'm tossing it up, I only got my One 12 months ago, and I have enough money right now to buy basically anything that I want outright, but I'm thinking I might just wait until the OnePlus 3. I worked out that I can either buy a OnePlus device every year (if they are similarly priced), or buy another flagship type every 2 years, and I'm thinking that the 12 month option is going to work better for me and I've never really had any problems with my One.
From what I've seen of the battery life with the 6P, I'm not sold on it. Plus I feel as though the SD810 is not the greatest chip in the world. I'm going to wait for the SD820 devices to come out. To me, the 6P just seems like an incremental upgrade over the OPO, and I can't justify it at the price point they are selling it at.
For me a bumb from the OPO to the 6P is to small that i would spend 500€ on it + I don't support Huawei anyway + Fingerprint can get bypassed easy by a 14 year old nerd ~
I switched and will never buy another one plus product again after my one year experience owning that pos.
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It's too expensive for my current budget
Got my nexus 6p a few days ago.. Let me tell you, this is probably the best phone I've ever had. The screen, build quality, overall phone responsiveness is A1 , 10/10! I've had the iPhone 6 plus, Note 5 and this nexus 6p definitely beats both in almost every way.
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Thinking about making the switch myself.
Basically, there are some stuffs that hold me to switch to a so expensive phone.
First of all, I relized that my opo will never die: the community is really active, we are talking of a two years old phone. I'm really happy to know that I can find almost everything I need for my phone. That not mean that I think that the 6P community is smaller (AK we miss you), but it's not the 'nexus' name on the back that will change my mind.
And about the performance, well, my opo still do what should do in almost every conditions.
And the battery life is awesome, really, I hate to arrive at home and run to plug my phone, as I hate to save battery while I'm out and avoid to use the phone cause I'm scared it die before I can plug it.
And the sandstone fell on the back, it's pure love for me.
The 6P is a really really great phone, great camera, great performance with MM, but it cost about twice what i paid my opo. Moreover, I don't feel the need of a SD810 at all, I would definetively wait for something with the new quad 820.
Maybe the new Nexus (I always loved Htc phones, so I really hope in something by them for the new Nexus) or meybe the future OP3.
I think that my opo will survive till and will give me a lot of fun till its moment arrive, maybe the next november
Don't mind me, I'm just cyberstalking this thread. Pay no attention to the guy in the corner
I bought a N6P from google play store but returned it (under Googles ridiculously generous return policy) and went back to my OPO. I don't think the build quality of the N6 was very good. It is big and slippery and yet not very robust, unlike the OPO. I strongly disagree with the poster above who prefers the N6P back. It is too slippery - the OPO "sandpaper" is MUCH better for these big phones. Also, the N6P price in Australia is outrageous given it is just another Chinese phone. The OPO running Android 6 - CM13 (Sultan) is still near a state-of-the-art phone.

Lost phone, need recommendations on new device.

So yeah, I was the unlucky one to have lost my precious Idol 3 5.5 on the bus today. So, I am on the market for a new phone. Although I would like to buy this model again I was wondering what other phone would you guys get today if you where to buy a new phone with similar specs and price range.
Thanks
David C.
Nexus 5x if you are on a budget or Nexus 6P if you want the best of the best.
Either way you'll be extremely pleased and will get monthly updates directly from Google for at least 2 years.
mantarkus said:
So yeah, I was the unlucky one to have lost my precious Idol 3 5.5 on the bus today. So, I am on the market for a new phone. Although I would like to buy this model again I was wondering what other phone would you guys get today if you where to buy a new phone with similar specs and price range.
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David C.
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I've myself just purchased the n6 and love it!! For 250$ you can't beat the price, I still have my idol but I'm enjoying the n6
take nokia 3310. hard to lost it for some price get motorola moto g3
I used to be a phablet hater, but after using the Idol 3 for a while I'm really starting to love the extra screen real estate. If I had the money to buy a new phone, I would for sure buy a gently used Nexus 6 because of its massive screen, ridiculously fast processor, and official CM builds. I have not used the phone personally but a friend of mine has it and he says good things about it.
I vote for Nexus5x for the consistent OS updates. I will probably get that (or whatever is the newest inexpensive Nexus phone) whenever I retire my Idol 3. I am planning on holding onto my Idol 3 for at least a year and a half longer though.
A friend recently got a Nexus 5X and after handling the phone for a little while, I would vote for it as well. The 808 seems to be a good processor, performance wise. The other positives with the phone are the fingerprint sensor, 4k video, and of course the regular Android updates. The sound quality probably is not going to be as great as the Idol3 - if that is important to you ( it was to me ) . Also remember - there is no card slot. Coming back to my Idol3 after using the Nexus 5X for a little while painfully makes me aware of how laggy the Idol3 is .
So if you can score one for ~300, I would say the Nexus 5X is a pretty good deal.
I got a new 64 GB Nexus 6 on Amazon for less than $280 after tax.
Flagship performance, very good front facing speakers, great battery life on marshmallow, good camera, turbo and wireless charging and tons of mods and custom ROMs.
Thanks all for your recommendations, as much as I would like to get a Nexus phone it's way over the Idol 3 price range and my budget.
David C.
Idol 4 is coming. Snapdragon 652, 3 gigs ram, Full HD, Marshmallow, price unknown, when? Unknown.
http://www.frandroid.com/hardware/processeurs/331394_alcatel-onetouch-idol-4-place-au-snapdragon-652
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Might want to consider the the Huawei Honor 5x. Looks like a nice phone, especially for $200.
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I got me a moto x pure and this thing is fast, batt is good nice front/rear cams, reception better than idol 3 and form factor pretty much de same as the idol. Phone is smooth with no lag running M. Oh, and you got some pretty nice cases - I got the incipio dual something and its just pefect.
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Might want to consider the the Huawei Honor 5x. Looks like a nice phone, especially for $200.
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I've been looking into this. Great pros and the only con I've read so far is Huawei's interface attempt to look like iOS make the device sluggish. Still a great price. Thanks for the heads up on this one. (still miss my Idol 3 though).
David C.
How about this one? Pretty decent specs and even has a front camera with flash.
http://www.amazon.com/BLU-Life-One-Smartphone-Unlocked/dp/B0189RMNTG
FYI, I went for the Blu Life One X. Great phone for $150. Was lucky enough to find a seller with free S&H and no tax on Amazon.
Thanks all for your recommendations!!
David C.
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Blackberry DTEK60 as an upgrade

Thoughts on the unveiling of the Blackberry DTEK60. Looks excellent if you ask me: Stockish Android, Front Facing Speakers Small Bezels, finger print scanner on backSnapdragon 820, decent looking battery, and above average camera.
For $500 dollars seems like a great upgrade for Moto X owners looking for a stock android device with front facing speakers.
Thoughts?
Its looks like a amazing device with such potential. But its going to be underestimated and not enough custom roms for it most likely...
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Thoughts on the unveiling of the Blackberry DTEK60. Looks excellent if you ask me: Stockish Android, Front Facing Speakers Small Bezels, finger print scanner on backSnapdragon 820, decent looking battery, and above average camera.
For $500 dollars seems like a great upgrade for Moto X owners looking for a stock android device with front facing speakers.
Thoughts?
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To be honest I don't know if i would go to that. Not knowing the situation with blackberry and they could go down the tubes any time now, updates may be scarce. Worse than Moto or LG hahahaha. Also for that price the Xiaomi Mi* seems like a good phone, but especially the Mix
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Its looks like a amazing device with such potential. But its going to be underestimated and not enough custom roms for it most likely...
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It will most likely receive no third-party ROMs development. The phone will not be rootable as well. Blackberry won't let you do so, at least easily because it would go against their security prowess.
I just bought my Pure for sub-250$ so such a phone for 500 is a no go. I think something along the line of ZTE or the upcoming Xiaomi Mi Mix would be better (even though these phones are very hard to get our hands on).
For the money I would definitely consider an alternative other than blackberry at the moment..lack of modding or rom's would make it a boring 500+ piece of hardware .
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For the money I would definitely consider an alternative other than blackberry at the moment..lack of modding or rom's would make it a boring 500+ piece of hardware .
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Honestly, I used to be a big custom rom guy back in the day, but Android is so great today I have no reason to root or install a custom rom. Just looking for stock android and I'm happy.
I'm curious, what specific customizations are you and others looking for today that warrants rooting and custom roms?
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Honestly, I used to be a big custom rom guy back in the day, but Android is so great today I have no reason to root or install a custom rom. Just looking for stock android and I'm happy.
I'm curious, what specific customizations are you and others looking for today that warrants rooting and custom roms?
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My logic was price wise ,for the same amount of money or less there's alot of options available like Nexus 5x or 6p which by black Friday should be a decent deal and even now and they run stock Andy just as good .if I was to shed out that kind of money it would be for pretty good flagship phone .The blackberrys are intriguing but for the money I would stick with Samsung /HTC /Sony and then Nexus line and as far as modding I'm not too big in it anymore but when the device hit eol and someone makes a stable Cm or paranoid/Aosp rom of current or next Andy build I would jump straight into it .
Sorry, is this post about Blackberry? That Blackberry from Canada? the death company?
500$ ...what???
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marksedge said:
My logic was price wise ,for the same amount of money or less there's alot of options available like Nexus 5x or 6p which by black Friday should be a decent deal and even now and they run stock Andy just as good .if I was to shed out that kind of money it would be for pretty good flagship phone .The blackberrys are intriguing but for the money I would stick with Samsung /HTC /Sony and then Nexus line and as far as modding I'm not too big in it anymore but when the device hit eol and someone makes a stable Cm or paranoid/Aosp rom of current or next Andy build I would jump straight into it .
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Yeah the Nexus 6p is an excellent phone, it's just too damn big for me. I can barely handle the Moto X. Looking for a 5.5 inch phone.
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Yeah the Nexus 6p is an excellent phone, it's just too damn big for me. I can barely handle the Moto X. Looking for a 5.5 inch phone.
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Yeah the 6p is huge but just feels and looks like a premium device .My brother has it and nephew has 5x running 7.0 just smoothly .I came from a HTC one m9 and had a nexus 5 so I definitely learned my lesson on phones that cost 500+ .If it not a game changer than I wont spend 500+ when three months done the line some other comes with something better .Heck even one plus phones are good for the money.
With phone options out there with comparable specs in the $400 range, just can't justify getting a BB. For a business wanting a secure phone, it would be a good choice but fit most users, I doubt the extra "security" would really matter. For a tinkerer, this phone is a no go.
Honestly, after having the Alcatel Idol 3, that phone looks almost identical to both the Idol 3 and the Idol 4.

Purchasing one plus 7 pro

I have planned to purchase one plus 7 pro. Is it worth buying?? If someone is using please give me feedback, who have bought that phone....
We're using the Oneplus 7 Pro as business phones, and I can honestly say that this is the fastest phone I've ever used. First time in a long time that I'm not flashing Lineageos first thing. [emoji16]
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All depends what you want in a phone if speed and development is your thing then yes it's a winner if it's more camera then there's better out there P30 pro for example , ticks many boxes but camera could be improved if it's possible ,
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For me it's the best overall phone in 2019! Good luck
I have had mine since it was released, and it just keeps getting better. Some will say the camera is weak, and maybe that was true back in April, but I think it takes great shots now. I am running Android 10 beta, and it is rock solid. If you are looking for a phone for overall usage, this is it. Best bang for the buck. I would highly recommend this phone to anyone.
The camera is garbage. You get used to it and that's why it seems to get better but it's garbage nonetheless. Me and my girlfriend keep taking pictures on her galaxy s8 because wherever we take them on my 7 Pro they turn up horrible.
I wouldn't call the camera garbage at all. I have a Galaxy S10E as well and much prefer the OP7 over it including the camera. Takes great pictures, even of my kids which is always difficult. Remember these are phones. The cameras have come a long long way.
If you can get the gs10+ for same price or promo from carrier I'd go that route. I like my OP7 pro but truly the gs10+ is better phone for most.
Ip rating if you must,
Wireless charging,
Better camera,
SD if needed,
Overall better support directly through carrier vs dealing with OP sometimes awful customer service and Warranty nightmares. Again I like my 7 pro. And won't be changing it for a while but truly the gs10+ is a better phone for 70% of people.
There is an issue with the battery when u play games like PUBG. It takes 3:30 to 4 hrs playing only. Everything else is perfect. At least for me
If money is no issue grab a s10 or even note 10 on the dark webs. They are getting cheap fast.......
Can't go wrong with any flagship. Screen is average if coming from Samsung line. I'm in love the storage speed honestly.
Currently scratching my itch for stock Android but it won't last too long. I prefer baked in features rather I use them or not.
Battery life is average.
If comparing to zte, xiaomi or any of the other mid priced/high spec cheap phones, OnePlus wins.
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I have planned to purchase one plus 7 pro. Is it worth buying??
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Question is so vague, as to make it impossible to answer meaningfully. Worth buying? Worth it to who, you? We don't know anything about you, so how would we know? Such as what device you currently have, what types of things you like to use your phone for, what your budget is, etc.
Most folks on this forum section own the 7 Pro. So they will likely tell you it was worth it. Folks do not tend to frequent a particular device forum, unless they own and like that phone.
The 7 Pro is crazy smooth and fast, with flagship specs in most regards, but with a much lower price than the big brands (Samsung, Apple, etc.). The mostly clean Android interface (without too much manufacturer "skinning") is nice as well. The camera may not be the absolute best. But more than sufficient in most cases, in my opinion. No waterproof rating. No wireless charging, either. But whether you miss those features or not, depends on your needs. And most of those details, you could have easily read on any number of internet reviews of the device (and maybe you already have).
Just as important for many of us here, is that the device has good XDA community support.

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