Hello XDA developers!
I'm posting this because perhaps it can help someone else.
In August 2014 I bought a beautiful shiny Sony Xperia Z, free from factory which means I paid full price and it was great!
(but everything changed when the Fire Nation attacked, it was a joke ).
But, after a little over a day and a half, the screen broke alone in the front pocket of my pants (I confess something tight but had put my cracked Huawei with no problems), it really is not a problem: I had a Huawei with screen without pieces working perfectly fine! The problem is that about 100% of the touch stopped working, making the phone an expensive paperweight.
I could not even take a picture! Everything for what I was use it was for timing a pendulum in my physics class. The most expensive clock that anyone could buy!
Of course, the warranty was conspicuously absent!
Since then I have had to exist with this phone and Genymotion because in college have a smart phone is a necessity (at least where I study).
But now I have the opportunity to purchase a high-end phone and the first thing that came to my mind as a camera flash was Sony (I quote in Spanish: "El ser humano es el único animal, tan animal, que tropieza dos veces con la misma piedra.") Because I'm a Linux / Android developer and Sony launches AOSP kernels and release the source code even before launching the device itself (as with the Z2) leaves to me a good taste in the mouth, especially after being a proud owner of an Xperia Tipo (best smartphone in my life!). The "slow development" is no problem for me, because I am developer for 5 years (although recently I deleted my Gmail account and opened another for personal reasons, thats explains why I'm junior again).
Leaving that aside, is the Xperia Z3 a good choice?
I'm thinking in spend a lot of money (around 2 minimum wage in my country) in a good device but it does not convince me at all, maybe due my trauma with Xperia Z.
As a proud owner of an Xperia Tipo, Sony is amazing, as a defrauded and (fooled?, cheated?) holder of an Xperia Z, Sony sucks.
I post this because maybe someone will feel helped and like me maybe some one indecisive can feel safer to opt in or to run quickly away from Sony.
If the risk is greater than the gain, as the Xperia Z, what are our options? Personally, I look for a device that does not baulk with things like Custom Kernels (as KNOX or locked Bootloaders). Samsung: I'm supposed to own my phone!, right?
Thanks for reading, I hope this is helpful and if it is not, at least I hope it will help someone (even me).
I think of a OnePlus One, I do not care to be brought from China XD. (I've tried to win an invite bu no one love the "inncoent" humor)
Edit: If you think on this, the M8 is a good alternative! In comparison, the "desventage" of the M8 is the waterproof. I can't find any other.
Edit: This was my last phone (this phone is my current phone):
Cracked but fully working Huawey Y320 Arround $60
1. My dog ran and pulled the USB making the phone kiss the ground.
2. Then, I accidentally droped on the College.
3. I was angry cuz it reboot and smashed against the table.
4. Was woking perfectly good till the LCD cracked because I sat on phone.
Z3 is simply amazing but I'd suggest you wait for another 3-4 weeks. The first batch of Z3s are full of manufacturing defects. I had mine for 2 weeks and the black bezel around the screen is damaged. I went to the service center and they asked me to wait another month so that a new batch of phones will be available. Also the camera quality is average. Sony screwed up again in the Superior Auto mode. Manual shots come OK unless there is no bright light around. Speakers are also a bit dull, although I don't use them much. A friend of mine has OnePlus One and it's seriously a flagship killer. But compared to the Z3, OnePlus one looks dull in your hands. Z3 kinda nailed it in design department. So wait, and even if you buy it, just check it in the store itself for any defects. Also don't forget those service tests. Hope it helps.
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Hello XDA developers!
I post this because maybe someone will feel helped and like me maybe some one indecisive can feel safer to opt in or to run quickly away from Sony.
If the risk is greater than the gain, as the Xperia Z, what are our options? Personally, I look for a device that does not baulk with things like Custom Kernels (as KNOX or locked Bootloaders). Samsung: I'm supposed to own my phone!, right?
Thanks for reading, I hope this is helpful and if it is not, at least I hope it will help someone (even me).
I think of a OnePlus One, I do not care to be brought from China XD.
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Knowing that you are a developer, I would definitely say that you should go for xperia Z3 - for personal (rather Z3 community's) interests. Go for z3 dual D6633, and you know why
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Z3 is simply amazing but I'd suggest you wait for another 3-4 weeks. The first batch of Z3s are full of manufacturing defects. I had mine for 2 weeks and the black bezel around the screen is damaged. I went to the service center and they asked me to wait another month so that a new batch of phones will be available. Also the camera quality is average. Sony screwed up again in the Superior Auto mode. Manual shots come OK unless there is no bright light around. Speakers are also a bit dull, although I don't use them much. A friend of mine has OnePlus One and it's seriously a flagship killer. But compared to the Z3, OnePlus one looks dull in your hands. Z3 kinda nailed it in design department. So wait, and even if you buy it, just check it in the store itself for any defects. Also don't forget those service tests. Hope it helps.
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Yeah! maybe buy it right now is not smart enough and, no, sadly there is no such thing like Sony Centre here. Are one, but they can't do anything (they won't replace the phone never!), I mean, I bring them my Xperia Z and they just acused me of abuse. I really can't realize how the best support brand (in my opinion) can made defective devices!
You don't know how many I've suffer because the Z, I give you a breef detail: As I buy the phone in the half of month, I've eating only eggs by 15+ days because I had no enoguh money to buy descent food! So, my trauma is justificated and I'm scared. Ahhh Sony, There are nothing bad for you, but for us the things are turning black. And the sacrifice does not had any value: I never opend the cammera app, I never setted a password, I never changed the wallpaper, I never enjoyed anything the next day I needed Blackboard in the phone but, of curse, I had no phone.
Thank you for your answer.
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...is the Xperia Z3 a good choice?
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You didn't give much away in terms of what you want to do with it. It's a great phone, but if you want a cheaper, larger phone perhaps you could consider the Nexus 6. Also, there's the Z2, S5 and other phones which have been out for a while and are cheaper.
That's not to say I regret getting the Z3; it's the best phone I've ever had, and 4g is amusingly fast, but it's expensive (I got a discount through my employer otherwise I'd probably not have bothered).
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You didn't give much away in terms of what you want to do with it. It's a great phone, but if you want a cheaper, larger phone perhaps you could consider the Nexus 6. Also, there's the Z2, S5 and other phones which have been out for a while and are cheaper.
That's not to say I regret getting the Z3; it's the best phone I've ever had, and 4g is amusingly fast, but it's expensive (I got a discount through my employer otherwise I'd probably not have bothered).
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Yeah! I'ts not about money, cuz the money it's a vanal stuff. I'm afraid about if my inversion, my money will have any value. As I owned a Xperia Z by 1.5+ days, my inversion had no value. If my Z3 crack again, you know, god bye money!
So, the S5 looks fine, the screen cracks but still working!
Thank you for your answer.
As much as I like the Z3, and getting mine replaced due to severe light bleed on right side of frame and slight indent of frame towards LCD near power button. Others have a pink spot issue in camera (Mine has it but very hard to notice), Phonearena even has an article on it. Now reports of fractured back glass are coming in like the Z1.
Better wait for a new batch like someone mentioned.
If you need one right now immediately, the M8 is better as in US HTC offers free one time screen replacement in first 6 months.
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Z3 is simply amazing but I'd suggest you wait for another 3-4 weeks. The first batch of Z3s are full of manufacturing defects. I had mine for 2 weeks and the black bezel around the screen is damaged. I went to the service center and they asked me to wait another month so that a new batch of phones will be available. Also the camera quality is average. Sony screwed up again in the Superior Auto mode. Manual shots come OK unless there is no bright light around. Speakers are also a bit dull, although I don't use them much. A friend of mine has OnePlus One and it's seriously a flagship killer. But compared to the Z3, OnePlus one looks dull in your hands. Z3 kinda nailed it in design department. So wait, and even if you buy it, just check it in the store itself for any defects. Also don't forget those service tests. Hope it helps.
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So is it guaranteed that they will make new batches in 3-4 weeks? Wouldn't they still sell the old batch as they phase in the new? I want one but how long would it take for a new batch? I just want to know how long to wait. Any help is appreciated.
To be honest its hard to say.
I would say avoid it. There's no ROM's for it, and probably won't be until well after the Z4 is released if at all, and they won't be of the level of M8 ROMS. The screen, camera, speakers and design aren't as good as other alternatives, and if you managed to break a Z in your pocket which is a miracle, then this will probably do the same.
I'd get an S5 or an M8, the M8 is probably better for custome ROMS, is better made, has a better screem, speakers and in my book a better camera too, but is not waterproof.
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I would say avoid it. There's no ROM's for it, and probably won't be until well after the Z4 is released if at all, and they won't be of the level of M8 ROMS. The screen, camera, speakers and design aren't as good as other alternatives, and if you managed to break a Z in your pocket which is a miracle, then this will probably do the same.
I'd get an S5 or an M8, the M8 is probably better for custome ROMS, is better made, has a better screem, speakers and in my book a better camera too, but is not waterproof.
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Maybe you are right. It's time to look in other way. The M8 sounds like a great idea. It's sad the stuff about the glass. If the glass were better and the screen worked this phone could be perfect. However, I'm gonna see how the things are changing in the time.
Dont forget the free HTC Advantage Program (USA only), Free cracked glass replacement, in first 6 months and +100GB Google Drive storage for 2 years.
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Dont forget the free HTC Advantage Program (USA only), Free cracked glass replacement, in first 6 months and +100GB Google Drive storage for 2 years.
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Seeing in YouTube looks like M8 camera sucks! How true is this?
I hate it. I'm thinking of getting the z3 because I hate the camera so much. Other than the camera, it's an amazing phone.
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I hate it. I'm thinking of getting the z3 because I hate the camera so much. Other than the camera, it's an amazing phone.
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Don't worry that's what put me off too. I made my dad get it because he is more accident prone and it is one of the best if not the best in drop tests.
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Been waiting for the S6 to come out and now that it's been released not happy about several things and think I'm going to pass. The Z3V seems to have everything I'm looking for, waterproof and good reception being high on the list.
My needs:
Good call quality and reception
Water proof
Good battery
Good camera
SD card slot
Durable
From everything I've been reading it looks like the Z3V has got this covered. Not sure I like the glass back but it'll live in a case anyways, which I'm finding out there is not much choice there. Btw I'm coming off a Razr Maxx HD, I ruled out the Turbo fairly quick lol. Thanks!
My Z3v has blown away every expectation I've had on any phone I have owned. Battery life, radio reception, OS stability, no lag, seriously the smoothest running device I've ever used, camera, SD Storage, 3gb RAM, waterproofing and Wireless Qi charging, stereo front facing speakers, and LED notification. Everything works as intended and expected. I've had mine since launch and 4-5 months later I'm actually more enthused about it than I was the first day. Without question if my phone met its demise today, I'd turn around and get it again without hesitation. It's hard to think about switching to another device when the one you have has performed flawlessly with no hiccups.
The only thing it doesn't have currently but supposedly is planned to is simultaneous data and voice. It is a slight disappointment, but not critical for me.
Yup I agree with PChain
Everything needed to be said, pchain has said it. I won't likely ever get another branded phone since there's nothing too new or attention worthy about them. I'm very disappointed how the S6 turned out to be as the Z3v is already everything as it is but incredibly better.
The glass back isn't too much of a concern since it is Sony's tempered glass. Look up any youtube video of Sony's Drop test, they're nearly indestructible. It's worth it man, get this phone and you won't have to wait as long for the update for simultaneous voice and data.
Well I'm sold, thanks for the replies! Should've just got it in January when my contract was up but I was hoping for great things from the S6 and thought I'd wait it out, but like many I'm disappointed in the direction they went.
Awsome, but none of these phones are particularly "durable"...
The hardware guts, performance and elegant form of this phone blow me away. No question, hands down, this is more pocket computer than I ever imagined. In the Verizon store it's absolutely the best bang for the buck.
I'm a bit OCD, so if it gets dropped and marred, or scratched, or dented, or cracked I'll completely freak out and cry like a baby! It's not a particularly durable design, but it's really well put together. No weird seems, misalignments, etc. Because I work in landscaping and construction, I've swapped my unused Xoom tablet line with an old handset that I'll bring to work instead of the Xperia so I won't have to feel like I'm performing an act of surgery every time I take a call (cleaning hands off, etc).
I think this phone in a top notch case is super hard to beat for most applications.
IMO - the Z3v is the best bang for your buck. I was first intrigued by Sony Xperia when the Z2 was @ Verizon a few years ago. I'm glad that the Z3v was available when my Razr Maxx bit the dust last Fall, though not initially.
I first went "Cheap" with a LG G Vista, but it shutdown a few times. I swapped it for the Moto X 2014. While the Moto X is a fine phone, it got hot to the touch and the battery isn't the greatest. Luckily - the Z3v came out during my 2 week trial and the third time was the charm!
It has never shutdown, the battery life is pretty good, and the MHL and mirror link functions work via my Smart TV! The same cannot be said on the former phones mentioned.
Go for it!
Based on your post, stan smith, i think this is the ideal phone for you. Thats awesome to hear youre making the move. Just picked the Z3v up a few days ago and I'm blown away. I like to believe im an educated consumer and did a lot of digging on all the latest VZ offerings. My expectations for this phone were sky high and they are being surpassed! i'm running nova launcher and the phone is by far the snappiest device ive ever had. Tap to wake is phenomenal. Having moved here from an HTC ONE M7, my primary concerns were pixel density (M7: 468ppi - Z3v: 424ppi) and screen brightness (M7: 460nits - Z3v: 407nits) but these are no longer a concern. Expectations exceeded.
Really excited about this phone! I will admit I'm concerned about the size, haven't even seen one in person yet. I did some comparisons at phonearena and it looks really tall, like .66" taller than my current razr maxx hd. Going to hit Verizon maybe tonight if not tomorrow and check it out, probably bring it home if I think I can manage the size of it. :good:
I love my phone. I came from a Galaxy S5 and I think this phone is so much better in many ways. I particularly like the solid feel and build of this over the S5. Don't know how it would compare to the S6.
Like someone posted, the only bummer about this phone is the lack of simultaneous voice and data. That is very disappointing in this day and age on a high end phone. But I can live with it and perhaps they will fix that with an update in the future.
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I love my phone. I came from a Galaxy S5 and I think this phone is so much better in many ways. I particularly like the solid feel and build of this over the S5. Don't know how it would compare to the S6.
Like someone posted, the only bummer about this phone is the lack of simultaneous voice and data. That is very disappointing in this day and age on a high end phone. But I can live with it and perhaps they will fix that with an update in the future.
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Idk how solid the S6 would be, but compared to this, it definitely can't withstand water anymore. lol
The lollipop update that will include everything is reaching upon us soon. Sony confirms they're in final phases of testing to work out the bugs. We will all soon get simultaneous voice and data (again, depending from whatever phone we came from before).
Got it tonight!! Solid phone, love the look and feel. A little big but I can get used to it. Lol the guy at Verizon didn't know anything about it, said he never sold one and tried to talk me out of it. Once I schooled him on the features he was pretty impressed. Glad to join this very limited club and thanks for all the advice!
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Got it tonight!! Solid phone, love the look and feel. A little big but I can get used to it. Lol the guy at Verizon didn't know anything about it, said he never sold one and tried to talk me out of it. Once I schooled him on the features he was pretty impressed. Glad to join this very limited club and thanks for all the advice!
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Yay, welcome aboard. I should school the employees more often too because I talk to the reps about account assessment and stuff, and they just have not much of a clue about my phone being there. This is what Apple and Samsung (as well as Motorola Droid) brainwashing does to corporate employees..
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Yay, welcome aboard. I should school the employees more often too because I talk to the reps about account assessment and stuff, and they just have not much of a clue about my phone being there. This is what Apple and Samsung (as well as Motorola Droid) brainwashing does to corporate employees..
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Yup-Yup! Pretty sad when the consumer has to do the job of the salesman. but more sad that this illustrates just how easily the masses are brainwashed.
Good for you, AmericanDad. hope you enjoy it!
Coming from a rooted Droid DNA w/ a custom ROM, I'm not seeing any improvements, says the camera. If it wasn't for the ailing battery in my DNA, I would have kept it. Form factor is a bit of a downgrade and visually, it looks very reminiscent of the Droid Razr HD. Camera is definitely better, but the autofocus time takes away from it. A good phone, but nothing here to make me forget my DNA entirely.
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Coming from a rooted Droid DNA w/ a custom ROM, I'm not seeing any improvements, says the camera. If it wasn't for the ailing battery in my DNA, I would have kept it. Form factor is a bit of a downgrade and visually, it looks very reminiscent of the Droid Razr HD. Camera is definitely better, but the autofocus time takes away from it. A good phone, but nothing here to make me forget my DNA entirely.
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I'm not sure what exactly you're asking or what your point is but I assure you the Z3v has surpassed every expectation I've had in any device I've ever owned. Battery life will absolutely crush the DNA, radio reception is better than today's Moto offerings, there is zero lag, the camera is really good, it is water proof, has front facing stereo speakers, multicolor LED notification, Qi wireless charging etc. I've had the Z3v since launch and if my device met its fate today I'd immediately get another. Once you have a completely fast stable OS that performs flawlessly you don't want a different device. The Z3v is without a doubt is the most underrated unknown non-marketed devices on Verizon. Unless rooting is a necessity for you there is no reason to question if the z3v is worthy of being your next device. While the DNA is a good device in many ways, the Z3v is good in just about every way. The new Samsung S6,, S6 Edge, and HTC M9 aren't even close in tempting me away from this bulletproof device. I've never had a Sony device before and took a chance and it has been the best technology decision I've made in years. Just my two cents....
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I'm not sure what exactly you're asking or what your point is but I assure you the Z3v has surpassed every expectation I've had in any device I've ever owned. Battery life will absolutely crush the DNA, radio reception is better than today's Moto offerings, there is zero lag, the camera is really good, it is water proof, has front facing stereo speakers, multicolor LED notification, Qi wireless charging etc. I've had the Z3v since launch and if my device met its fate today I'd immediately get another. Once you have a completely fast stable OS that performs flawlessly you don't want a different device. The Z3v is without a doubt is the most underrated unknown non-marketed devices on Verizon. Unless rooting is a necessity for you there is no reason to question if the z3v is worthy of being your next device. While the DNA is a good device in many ways, the Z3v is good in just about every way. The new Samsung S6,, S6 Edge, and HTC M9 aren't even close in tempting me away from this bulletproof device. I've never had a Sony device before and took a chance and it has been the best technology decision I've made in years. Just my two cents....
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I couldn't say this any better. I really liked the underrated phone part of the post. That is so true. I came from a Nexus 5 on ATT. I am so impressed. My only gripe is I like stock Android. But the phone build quality and the countless other features make it awesome.
I've had mine for about a week now. Battery is amazing, I'm on my 4th day without a charge but I'm not a heavy user and it gets turned off at night. Wifi signal is incredible! My workshop is about 150' away from my house and I never got wifi there with my razr maxx hd, but the Z3v gets a strong signal. Real pleased with the call quality also. All in all happy with my choice.
To pile on with the radios, i've been in my current house for nearly five years. Previous phones were htc one m7 and a galaxy sIII prior to that. When making calls, i was forced to stand near the front of the house. living room/foyer/bedroom didn't matter. as long as i was near the front. Most likely due to some very large trees in the backyard. Just last night, i noticed i did not have to leave my den when taking a call. for the first time in this house, i could relax on a phone call. so very pleased with this device.
I've heard things like the notification LED are amazing, someone care to elaborate? Not sure what people mean and I've watched some review videos and they don't show it off or anything so I'm confused
Hi.
Just wondering if it is worth getting a Z5 now or since I can wait, just wait for the Z6? Are there even any rumors about it yet?
so far I haven´t heard anything about Z6 yet. if you can wait, then wait for Z6, otherwise, go for Z5, i got mine last friday, and already, i really like this device, eventhough in the past i was not fan of sony´s design ( I like more SE design)
I have a Z3 tablet and really love the design and feel of it. It's super thin with great quality and feels solid. I'm hoping the phone will feel the same.
I bought Z5 because my old device was dead. I would wait for Z6 if I had time. IMO, Snapdragon 820 will do much better than S810 especially for heat problem.
Please wait, because WMC on 21st will bring many goodies.
It's better to wait than to regret later.
Rest all upto you. ?
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I'll give you my honest honest advice, not being biased or a fanboy
You should save your money for better device with great support, and huge xda devs
buying a Sony phone is just a waste of money, i'll never again buy a Xperia phone.
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I'll give you my honest honest advice, not being biased or a fanboy
You should save your money for better device with great support, and huge xda devs
buying a Sony phone is just a waste of money, i'll never again buy a Xperia phone.
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Why do you say so? I have recently bought second hand xperia z3 and I love it. I am glad that I finally got rid of my crappy samsung. Also, compared to nexus'es, it is a much better device. Would be nice to hear your opinion though.
To be honest, in a perfect world, I would prefer a Sony Nexus phone. I love Sony's phone designs and would prefer stock Android, but as I can disable most of what is included on the phone I'm just fine with that.
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Why do you say so? I have recently bought second hand xperia z3 and I love it. I am glad that I finally got rid of my crappy samsung. Also, compared to nexus'es, it is a much better device. Would be nice to hear your opinion though.
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It sounds like he's speaking with concern to community developer support, of which Sony devices have relatively little because they're so unpopular compared to other brands like Nexus, Samsung, LG, OPO, etc.
It really depends on what phone you have now. If you've got something that doesn't make you shout curses, then I also suggest waiting for the Z6 or for other brands in general. There're a lot of devices to be announced in the coming months. I'm just waiting for a decent device with a large battery, SD slot, and unlockable bootloader to drop so I can ditch the Z5. I really hope that device is the Z6, but if it's something else, then so be it. The Z5 is not a terrible phone, but I don't think it's worth its retail price—especially in comparison to the Z2 and Z3, which perform just as well or better, and can be bought for much less.
Is always better to wait, but in this case is a +plus because the z5 is a fail
Or if you wait long enough you could get the Z8
The Z5 is a very disappointing phone that comes with an awfully bad firmware. In all honesty, stay away from that phone.
And the support is non-existent too. Sony is amateurish at best in that department. Get something more popular and better, you won't regret.
As a matter of fact I sold my Z5 after 4 months. It sucked
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The Z5 is a very disappointing phone that comes with an awfully bad firmware. In all honesty, stay away from that phone.
And the support is non-existent too. Sony is amateurish at best in that department. Get something more popular and better, you won't regret.
As a matter of fact I sold my Z5 after 4 months. It sucked
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I'm very happy with the stock rom on here compared to the other devices I've owned, Samsung, lg and htc.
Obviously rooting and debloating is still necessary as with all android devices.
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My Z5 is much better than my old Z1.
I have none of the problems the people on this forum claims to have.
Lots of people complains about the battery, but my battery is just fine.
I have a feeling most of the people here have unrealistic expectations on their phone and are pissed at Sony because there's no solution to root without unlocking the bootloader, but the current firmware is just fine.
tl:dr IF you really want a new phone now, go for the Z5 because you won't be disappointed (unless you also have unrealistic expectations).
Otherwise, wait for the WMC 2016 and see if Sony announces Z6
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Phazonclash said:
The Z5 is a very disappointing phone that comes with an awfully bad firmware. In all honesty, stay away from that phone.
And the support is non-existent too. Sony is amateurish at best in that department. Get something more popular and better, you won't regret.
As a matter of fact I sold my Z5 after 4 months. It sucked
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Oi, you said you wouldn't still be on here complaining:
"Take care, see you soon... the good thing is you won't have to "hear" me complain again "
Hey guys,
It's been a long time since I bothered to post anything here but, I just wanted to make a post to say goodbye.
It's coming up to 2 years since this device was released and now a lot of people on 2 year contract cycles will finally be able to upgrade to a new and better phone.
I was lucky enough to be offered an early upgrade months ago and have been using the s7 edge for about 4 months now.
It's a fantastic phone and it's like heaven after using the G flex 2.
Don't get me wrong, it's certainly not without its own faults, I'm still figuring out how to hold it without constantly touching the edges of the screen.
I've finally traded in my flex 2 though, so I thought I'd share my final opinion of the phone with you all;
Even as I handed the phone over in exchange for a small amount of cash, the clerk commented on how good the flex 2 looks.
That's what I believe won me over to begin with.
It's a beautiful phone, the curved design just draws you in and wraps you up in the screen. It was always so pleasing to hold in your hand and sat very comfortably in a pocket without poking you.
The buttons on the back were (in my opinion) perfectly placed and never ever pressed by accident.
Even the default wallpapers showcased the definition of the screen perfectly with powerful imagery and vibrant colours.
I really wish I could say that such a pleasurable experience as that first moment lasted longer than said first moment.
Unfortunately, the first night I had my flex 2 I bricked it!
I tried to change the lcd density and must have done something wrong because it got stuck in a bootloop.
There was literally zero information on how to recover from this back then so, I took it back to the shop and was given a new one.
If I had had any idea of the future then I would have never accepted a second flex 2...
Over the years I broke another 2 G Flex 2's due to testing everything myself and all the other devs could possibly think of to just do even the simplest modifies on this phone.
In fact, after the 2 years I've had the flex 2, I've found that I'm so far behind the modding and roms scene that I cannot honestly call myself a dev anymore until I feel I've caught up.
As I don't have the kind of money some people do, I can only justify having one phone at a time.
This particular phone (again, in my opinion) has damaged the modifying community, not just because I've fallen behind (that would be a monumental ego trip if I thought that was true) but because so many people have given up truly great work due to lg's policies.
I won't go into it any further as I'm sure you get the point already.
Is anyone else due an upgrade, or are you in the process of dumping this phone anyway?
If you are then please, join me in sharing your final thoughts on the LG G Flex 2.
I'd love to see how other people have been coping with this device for the last 2 years.
TLDR: The LG G flex 2 Is just a pretty face!
Do not get this phone if you are after anything more than an overpriced burner.
X1ras said:
Hey guys,
It's been a long time since I bothered to post anything here but, I just wanted to make a post to say goodbye.
It's coming up to 2 years since this device was released and now a lot of people on 2 year contract cycles will finally be able to upgrade to a new and better phone.
I was lucky enough to be offered an early upgrade months ago and have been using the s7 edge for about 4 months now.
It's a fantastic phone and it's like heaven after using the G flex 2.
Don't get me wrong, it's certainly not without its own faults, I'm still figuring out how to hold it without constantly touching the edges of the screen.
I've finally traded in my flex 2 though, so I thought I'd share my final opinion of the phone with you all;
Even as I handed the phone over in exchange for a small amount of cash, the clerk commented on how good the flex 2 looks.
That's what I believe won me over to begin with.
It's a beautiful phone, the curved design just draws you in and wraps you up in the screen. It was always so pleasing to hold in your hand and sat very comfortably in a pocket without poking you.
The buttons on the back were (in my opinion) perfectly placed and never ever pressed by accident.
Even the default wallpapers showcased the definition of the screen perfectly with powerful imagery and vibrant colours.
I really wish I could say that such a pleasurable experience as that first moment lasted longer than said first moment.
Unfortunately, the first night I had my flex 2 I bricked it!
I tried to change the lcd density and must have done something wrong because it got stuck in a bootloop.
There was literally zero information on how to recover from this back then so, I took it back to the shop and was given a new one.
If I had had any idea of the future then I would have never accepted a second flex 2...
Over the years I broke another 2 G Flex 2's due to testing everything myself and all the other devs could possibly think of to just do even the simplest modifies on this phone.
In fact, after the 2 years I've had the flex 2, I've found that I'm so far behind the modding and roms scene that I cannot honestly call myself a dev anymore until I feel I've caught up.
As I don't have the kind of money some people do, I can only justify having one phone at a time.
This particular phone (again, in my opinion) has damaged the modifying community, not just because I've fallen behind (that would be a monumental ego trip if I thought that was true) but because so many people have given up truly great work due to lg's policies.
I won't go into it any further as I'm sure you get the point already.
Is anyone else due an upgrade, or are you in the process of dumping this phone anyway?
If you are then please, join me in sharing your final thoughts on the LG G Flex 2.
I'd love to see how other people have been coping with this device for the last 2 years.
TLDR: The LG G flex 2 Is just a pretty face!
Do not get this phone if you are after anything more than an overpriced burner.
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I know where you are coming from.
I recommended the GF2 to the Mrs due to the great specs for the money, (about $250.) The phone looks great but you either have the choice of the H955 which doesn't have enough RAM, or the H950, which is held back by AT&T's crappy software that sucks the battery dry in no time. If I could turn the clock back, I'd never have suggested this phone to the Mrs and I feel a bit guilty as she is stuck with it, (Even guiltier now that I'm one the One Plus 3 which is everything the GF2 should have been.)
Let me join the party as well. Like the OP said, my 2 yrs contract is up and make me choose a new phone to continue with the contract. Well, call me stupid, but I choose the LG V20 (yet another LG). I didn't trade-in my H959 as it will continue to serve me as a backup phone.
There're reasons I choose V20 over other phones. Main reason is the QHD display, and another big reason for it is the replaceable battery.
So far, I also enjoyed the great double barrel shooters as well. I always shoot in manual mode if it is possible (if I have enough time to switch to manual mode). The wide angle lens is superb for group photos, as well as the landscape shootings. The normal lens is also very good for night-time shooting and macro photography. The lens-blur on that camera is awesome.
I'm only disappointed that the battery didn't last much longer than expected. But since the battery is replaceable, I don't mind it at all.
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Let me join the party as well. Like the OP said, my 2 yrs contract is up and make me choose a new phone to continue with the contract. Well, call me stupid, but I choose the LG V20 (yet another LG). I didn't trade-in my H959 as it will continue to serve me as a backup phone.
There're reasons I choose V20 over other phones. Main reason is the QHD display, and another big reason for it is the replaceable battery.
So far, I also enjoyed the great double barrel shooters as well. I always shoot in manual mode if it is possible (if I have enough time to switch to manual mode). The wide angle lens is superb for group photos, as well as the landscape shootings. The normal lens is also very good for night-time shooting and macro photography. The lens-blur on that camera is awesome.
I'm only disappointed that the battery didn't last much longer than expected. But since the battery is replaceable, I don't mind it at all.
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Interesting choice Spider,
When the Mrs's GF2 packs in, I will be advising her to go for the One Plus 3. In many ways the One Plus 3 is the opposite of the V20 as the hardware is inferior in pretty much every way. On the other hand, the software is just awesome and has given me the best Android I've ever experienced.
What I always wonder about the GF2 is how it would have performed running something like CM13. Would this have been the phone that we were always promised?
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Interesting choice Spider,
When the Mrs's GF2 packs in, I will be advising her to go for the One Plus 3. In many ways the One Plus 3 is the opposite of the V20 as the hardware is inferior in pretty much every way. On the other hand, the software is just awesome and has given me the best Android I've ever experienced.
What I always wonder about the GF2 is how it would have performed running something like CM13. Would this have been the phone that we were always promised?
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I could have choose OP3T, but unfortunately it's not available with my telco, so I've got to stick to LG again. On the other hand, the metal body, the QHD display and QDAC audio is too good to deny this phone. LG's customization to Nougat is also quite decent. The only thing I don't like is the new LG Launcher 5. I've never been a fan of "throw all your icons on the home screen" type launchers. That's one of the reason I don't like XiaoMi phones as well. Luckily, LG let me download the old Launcher 4 "Home & App Drawer" through the "Update Center" and the problem is resolved.
I always would like to run a stripped down version of MM on the GF2. Something like the Slim rom will be awesome. My GF2 H959 has already been on the V20A so I know it can run MM nicely. Just hope that it could run faster.
for my Mrs, I get her a Sony Xperia XZ becoz she's been complaining me a lot how bad the photos taken by her G3 is. Japanese built quality, dedicated shutter button, ip68 certified, and the awesome iA mode on the camera, she's quite satisfied with tha t phone as well.
spiderx_mm said:
I could have choose OP3T, but unfortunately it's not available with my telco, so I've got to stick to LG again. On the other hand, the metal body, the QHD display and QDAC audio is too good to deny this phone. LG's customization to Nougat is also quite decent. The only thing I don't like is the new LG Launcher 5. I've never been a fan of "throw all your icons on the home screen" type launchers. That's one of the reason I don't like XiaoMi phones as well. Luckily, LG let me download the old Launcher 4 "Home & App Drawer" through the "Update Center" and the problem is resolved.
I always would like to run a stripped down version of MM on the GF2. Something like the Slim rom will be awesome. My GF2 H959 has already been on the V20A so I know it can run MM nicely. Just hope that it could run faster.
for my Mrs, I get her a Sony Xperia XZ becoz she's been complaining me a lot how bad the photos taken by her G3 is. Japanese built quality, dedicated shutter button, ip68 certified, and the awesome iA mode on the camera, she's quite satisfied with tha t phone as well.
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I'd always discounted One Plus from any decision due to it being a Chinese phone with Chinese support.
That changed here in the UK where they teamed up with O2 and sold it in there stores. What really sold the OP3 to me though was the 6GB RAM. Lets face it, for now and the future, you can never have enough RAM.
I agree with you regarding the Camera on the G3. Its the same camera as the GF2 and whilst good in decent lighting, in low lighting it gets its focus wrong time and time again. It's so bad on the Mrs's phone that my LG G2 used to take better shots.
Reason 1: Phone is slightly bent.
Edit: I carry it in my right pocket, and seeing it got bent in such a short time upsets me. When you save up to get a phone for months and it is your first ever flagship device, you try to treat it like it is the most fragile thing you own. (note: except those times when i washed it, it was irresponsible, i know >-<)
Reason 2: No raw support.
Reason 3: Too much sharpening in the camera and no way to turn it off.
Reason 4: Headphone jack behaves funny ( probably because the phone got bent. I carry it in my right pocket how the hell did it got bent that easily :'( )
Reason 5: Android updates are way behind older phones. Edit: It seems like this is a problem because of the HK firmware. I wasn't aware other regions was getting updates a week after Googles own phones. Seeing Xperia X series already having the updates was a bit frustrating.
Reason 6: No CM (or lineage) (or not enough development?)
Reason 7: Wi-Fi range is way, way, way worse then my old Xperia P. Seriously? (Same modem, same frequency band)
Edit: Xperia P gets 3 bars and My laptop gets 5 bars where Xperia XZ almost has no reception and has drops.
There might be an eight reason but cant remember anything else. Does anyone else feel sad because they have bought this phone?
Edit: I think I have mis-tapped on the wrong section to submit this thread.
cizkek_ said:
Reason 1: Phone is slightly bent.
Reason 2: No raw support.
Reason 3: Too much sharpening in the camera and no way to turn it off.
Reason 4: Headphone jack behaves funny ( probably because the phone got bent. I carry it in my right pocket how the hell did it got bent that easily :'( )
Reason 5: Android updates are way behind older phones.
Reason 6: No CM (or lineage) (or not enough development?)
Reason 7: Wi-Fi range is way, way, way worse then my old Xperia P. Seriously? (Same modem, same frequency band)
There might be an eight reason but cant remember anything else. Does anyone else feel sad because they ahev bought this phone?
Edit: I think I have mis-tapped on the wrong section to submit this thread.
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U r not alone dude?
cizkek_ said:
Reason 1: Phone is slightly bent.
Reason 2: No raw support.
Reason 3: Too much sharpening in the camera and no way to turn it off.
Reason 4: Headphone jack behaves funny ( probably because the phone got bent. I carry it in my right pocket how the hell did it got bent that easily :'( )
Reason 5: Android updates are way behind older phones.
Reason 6: No CM (or lineage) (or not enough development?)
Reason 7: Wi-Fi range is way, way, way worse then my old Xperia P. Seriously? (Same modem, same frequency band)
There might be an eight reason but cant remember anything else. Does anyone else feel sad because they ahev bought this phone?
Edit: I think I have mis-tapped on the wrong section to submit this thread.
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I am using the phone for almost 5 months and:
1. no bent, phone is flat without scratches ...
2. true .. but i dont miss it
3. again true ... camera is not the best
4. no problem here .. i carry the phone too in my pocket and without any protection
5. quite the opposite ... it is almost the first phone with 7.1.1 android, except google phones
6. if you want custom roms on your phone why did you buy xperia in the first place? ... there are nexus and pixel phones with almost no restrictions
7. WiFi range is fine here ... but yes there are phones with better range.
So in a one sentence i really like this phone, and i am looking forward to XZ premium later this summer.
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Reason 1: Phone is slightly bent.
Reason 2: No raw support.
Reason 3: Too much sharpening in the camera and no way to turn it off.
Reason 4: Headphone jack behaves funny ( probably because the phone got bent. I carry it in my right pocket how the hell did it got bent that easily :'( )
Reason 5: Android updates are way behind older phones.
Reason 6: No CM (or lineage) (or not enough development?)
Reason 7: Wi-Fi range is way, way, way worse then my old Xperia P. Seriously? (Same modem, same frequency band)
There might be an eight reason but cant remember anything else. Does anyone else feel sad because they ahev bought this phone?
Edit: I think I have mis-tapped on the wrong section to submit this thread.
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1. Your fault
2. Why did you buy this phone if you need RAW support?
3. It's really not that bad after a 7.1.1. update, but sure, it's there more in Sony than other brands, as it was for ages now, it's common knowledge at this point. So if you needed the best in the market camera on the smartphone, you bought the wrong device. There were tons of reviews when the phone was released, didn't you come across this point anywhere ever?
4. Bending the phone shouldn't have any effect on the headphone jack, it doesn't really matter, when you take the phone apart you can see why it shouldn't be related. Something else wrong with it, maybe dirt? Mine is fine, I use both stock Sony earphones and my AKG K52 with the phone, both work great.
5. Very untrue, maybe keep track of Sony updates better? Apart from Nexus, the first one to get 7.1.1, the same will probably be for the next update. The same was with 6.0.1. for my ex Z3, so yeah, Sony has been pretty quick and reliable in terms of SW updates.
6. Pretty normal there still isn't that much development or interest for this unit, plus it's not that popular in the first place, so not a lot of people buy and develop for it, same goes for Sony in general. That being sad, Since the M4 Aqua and Z3 and now with XZ, I've stopped rooting my phones because to me there just isn't need to. With older HTCs and Samsungs, you really had to because the software and UI were pretty much crap on any brand. Apart from Pixels, Sony's is the cleanest and lightest out there.
7. For the last five years, I haven't noticed an upgrade or a downgrade in my WiFi range on any smartphones I use, it just works and it's fine. So, can't really comment on that, it works, I dunno...
One thing I did notice with Sony devices compared to other brands I used, a lot of times you'll se one bar or no bars at all, but you still have good signal and speed, it doesn't actually loose it, same goes for network signal. So I've learned not to pay much attention to the bars and indicators, just see how it actually works. Two rooms away from my router I barelly get one bar on WiFi and I still get 20Mbps out of max 50, so yeah...As long as it works, I don't care about the bars.
Seems to me you bought a wrong device for you and your needs and expectations. Sell it while it's still worth something and grab an S7 or something, I dunno. It has a better camera and you can flash tons of custom roms on it if you like.
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Reason 1: Phone is slightly bent.
Reason 2: No raw support.
Reason 3: Too much sharpening in the camera and no way to turn it off.
Reason 4: Headphone jack behaves funny ( probably because the phone got bent. I carry it in my right pocket how the hell did it got bent that easily :'( )
Reason 5: Android updates are way behind older phones.
Reason 6: No CM (or lineage) (or not enough development?)
Reason 7: Wi-Fi range is way, way, way worse then my old Xperia P. Seriously? (Same modem, same frequency band)
There might be an eight reason but cant remember anything else. Does anyone else feel sad because they ahev bought this phone?
Edit: I think I have mis-tapped on the wrong section to submit this thread.
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1) bent? What do you do with your phone? D:
2) If you use aosp, you have raw. Sony Block that. But no problem. The image processing is not heavy like Samsung, huawei, LG ecc. So the images in editing are a lot editable than others.
3) Not really a problem. Other brand do very worst. It's one of best camera there. No doubt about it.
4)your problem. Not mine or the other.
5) do you really buy a xz or a clone? Is one of the first phone Who recive Android 7.1.1 after Google phones.
6) is in project, but for now is really necessary?We have a really stable phone with latest updates... Buy a Google phone to have those rom always.
7) not real a problem. Some new phone do worst than xz.
I'm really happy to buy this phone and every day gave me satfactions. Great performance, battery, and amazing camera.
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Reason 1: Phone is slightly bent.
Reason 2: No raw support.
Reason 3: Too much sharpening in the camera and no way to turn it off.
Reason 4: Headphone jack behaves funny ( probably because the phone got bent. I carry it in my right pocket how the hell did it got bent that easily :'( )
Reason 5: Android updates are way behind older phones.
Reason 6: No CM (or lineage) (or not enough development?)
Reason 7: Wi-Fi range is way, way, way worse then my old Xperia P. Seriously? (Same modem, same frequency band)
There might be an eight reason but cant remember anything else. Does anyone else feel sad because they ahev bought this phone?
Edit: I think I have mis-tapped on the wrong section to submit this thread.
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I agree that its not such a good phone.
Point 1: my phone is also bent, and its not because of my pocket force for sure.
Point 3: agree
Point 5: strongly disagree, my brother has a Pixel and my phone is right up there following it with updates and security patched every month (usually not more than 10-20 days behind). Cant complain about the speed of updates; though they didn't improve the phone or fix any of the problems by doing them.
In conclusion; highly regretting buying this phone.
I come from S6 to XZ, this is my first xperia device.
You say XZ software is so bad, TRUE !!! As bad as galexy devices are bad...
More 7.1.x features lost in xperia XZ update like Night light. We got secure update end of the month (we get fw 199 with april secure patch 25th april, after one week google release next secure patch!)
No new features or improvement at any updates. (call logs lag, battery drain, etc) only secure patch and not more.
If you want real smooth experience, fast update, more secure device, good third-party development, buy a pixel (or xl if you like phablet). Samsung as bad as sony at third-party support! We talk about development not cooking ROM! Very easy to de-odex,de-bloat,de-knox, adding some mode you can find inside web and xda, change the build.id inside build.prop and call that "New Custom ROM"... That is not really third-party development, just call it moding and cocking rom.
cizkek_ said:
Reason 1: Phone is slightly bent.
Reason 2: No raw support.
Reason 3: Too much sharpening in the camera and no way to turn it off.
Reason 4: Headphone jack behaves funny ( probably because the phone got bent. I carry it in my right pocket how the hell did it got bent that easily :'( )
Reason 5: Android updates are way behind older phones.
Reason 6: No CM (or lineage) (or not enough development?)
Reason 7: Wi-Fi range is way, way, way worse then my old Xperia P. Seriously? (Same modem, same frequency band)
There might be an eight reason but cant remember anything else. Does anyone else feel sad because they ahev bought this phone?
Edit: I think I have mis-tapped on the wrong section to submit this thread.
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1. your fault and yes aluminium bent easier.
2. yes it can, sony just disabled it, (enabled in aosp)
3. working on it on aosp and lineage.
4. my jack is working perfectly.
5. they are the first major company (before LG, Samsung, and all big ones) to port 7.1.1
6. on the way, the zip is building Right now
7. my wifi range is correct even throught a reinforced armed concrete piece ( it block much radio data but i can watch 1080p60 videos nicely.
diri said:
I am using the phone for almost 5 months and:
1. no bent, phone is flat without scratches ...
2. true .. but i dont miss it
3. again true ... camera is not the best
4. no problem here .. i carry the phone too in my pocket and without any protection
5. quite the opposite ... it is almost the first phone with 7.1.1 android, except google phones
6. if you want custom roms on your phone why did you buy xperia in the first place? ... there are nexus and pixel phones with almost no restrictions
7. WiFi range is fine here ... but yes there are phones with better range.
So in a one sentence i really like this phone, and i am looking forward to XZ premium later this summer.
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Sadly pixel phones were not available in where i live, at least at a reasonable price. You would do the same if you were on a limited budget and after the best you could afford. (My other option was Htc m10)
You really should have gone with the HTC 10 if you had the option.
Unfortunately my carrier in the UK did not stock the 10 so with limited options and a "time to try something different approach", I went with the XZ.
The XZ is just OK in my view and a minor upgrade compared to my 3 Year old HTC M8 which I had previously. The only tangible improvements being a slightly larger screen and a fingerprint sensor.
- The processer may be a recent gen snapdragon 820 but it does not feel any better in day to day usage than the M8. I am actually surprised how laggy it can feel sometimes for what was a 2016 Flagship phone.
- The camera might be a higher resolution but the picture quality is dreadful
- Continual drop-outs when connecting my iPad via the Sony Hotspot which can only be resolved by restarting the phone
- Way too much Sony bloat ware, all of which can't be disabled or removed
- The Android overlay is not as good as HTCs with some features which I really miss in day to day use
- Limited availability of genuinely good accessories because I assume the phone has not selling well .... cases and properly fitting tempered glass protectors which don't make the phone look rubbish.
Based on my experience, this will be my first and last Sony phone.
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You really should have gone with the HTC 10 if you had the option.
Unfortunately my carrier in the UK did not stock the 10 so with limited options and a "time to try something different approach", I went with the XZ.
The XZ is just OK in my view and a minor upgrade compared to my 3 Year old HTC M8 which I had previously. The only tangible improvements being a slightly larger screen and a fingerprint sensor.
- The processer may be a recent gen snapdragon 820 but it does not feel any better in day to day usage than the M8. I am actually surprised how laggy it can feel sometimes for what was a 2016 Flagship phone.
- The camera might be a higher resolution but the picture quality is dreadful
- Continual drop-outs when connecting my iPad via the Sony Hotspot which can only be resolved by restarting the phone
- Way too much Sony bloat ware, all of which can't be disabled or removed
- The Android overlay is not as good as HTCs with some features which I really miss in day to day use
- Limited availability of genuinely good accessories because I assume the phone has not selling well .... cases and properly fitting tempered glass protectors which don't make the phone look rubbish.
Based on my experience, this will be my first and last Sony phone.
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Try searching Devilcase for tempered glass, expensive but reliable.
Ragarding bloatware, in my z5 I was able to uninstall most of them, but I don't understand why sony don't let us uninstall them . Not even a single app such as games.
I mean Sony trying to force us to play these games or what?
I would have gone for htc 10, but it was chunky and not as pleasing as sony in design perspective.
Yes it's sad. I'm back to xperia from lg G4. Before I had xperia x8, Ray, M(was mistake), Z1, and after G4 back to XZ. Each phone have bugs and problems. In XZ I see few. Phone it's too sensitive I mean frame. Camera it's worst than G4 speakers are quite. Maybe root for locked phones gives moore lives for it.
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cizkek_ said:
Reason 1: Phone is slightly bent.
Edit: I carry it in my right pocket, and seeing it got bent in such a short time upsets me. When you save up to get a phone for months and it is your first ever flagship device, you try to treat it like it is the most fragile thing you own. (note: except those times when i washed it, it was irresponsible, i know >-<)
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Hey -- I don't mean to sound rude, but how could you bend the phone? The entire front of the device is glass ... and glass doesn't bend!
If you're still within your initial warranty period, i would suggest taking the device back to where you purchased it, nicely explain some of your technical concerns and ask for a replacement. It shouldn't be an issue, but if it is, contact Sony. You will probably be given a refurbished device, but if there is genuinely something wrong, you may be better off. Good luck -- it is a terrific phone, btw.
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Hey -- I don't mean to sound rude, but how could you bend the phone? The entire front of the device is glass ... and glass doesn't bend!
If you're still within your initial warranty period, i would suggest taking the device back to where you purchased it, nicely explain some of your technical concerns and ask for a replacement. It shouldn't be an issue, but if it is, contact Sony. You will probably be given a refurbished device, but if there is genuinely something wrong, you may be better off. Good luck -- it is a terrific phone, btw.
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Phone does not sit well on a flat surface, its bent from corner to corner.
Thank you for your advice. I live in Mid East and bought the phone on a trip to HK (from Fortress). I dont know if a refurbished device could be trusted. Do you have any past experiences with Sony?
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Phone does not sit well on a flat surface, its bent from corner to corner.
Thank you for your advice. I live in Mid East and bought the phone on a trip to HK (from Fortress). I dont know if a refurbished device could be trusted. Do you have any past experiences with Sony?
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SO sorry for the delay ... I don't check in here as often as i should (probably).
I've had great experiences with Sony. I've always been very happy with the way they handle returns/refunds and fixing anything even remotely wrong with any of their products. Honestly, I don't have a bad thing to say about Sony.
1 month with my XZ, awesome device.
Coming from a Xperia Z2 must say that WiFi range is worse, can live with that. I tend to be very careful with my phones, after one month I have little scratches on my screen, never happen with my Z2 in the same amount of time (bot phones naked, later put a frame case on z2 but at first was naked). Weird thing, I thought glass protection of z2 (advertised as shatter proof glass) was inferior to xz (gorilla glass)
Maybe this will get this phone into the hands of more people.
https://www.androidcentral.com/esse...id-oreo-beta-coming-weeks-night-mode-included
The other part of this that's exciting is that Essential is one of the first companies (OnePlus, Google, ?) to do this but we should expect that based on its AOSP-ness I guess
Just too bad Oreo is a rather lame update.. hardly noticed anything on my Nexus 6P.
I remember when a new version of Android used to mean major changes.... But Oreo does have a few *cough* ui changes, I've been running it on my Nexus 6. Tho all I want on the essential phone is root and my multirom.
I'm going to go on the record as stating that I hope they have Android N system images provided at the point they release the O beta. This will allow those that want to try it the ability to revert. The other thing that would be helpful is if we had TWRP, which I'm sure the kernel release will help with and also give us an option of reverting.
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I'm going to go on the record as stating that I hope they have Android N system images provided at the point they release the O beta. This will allow those that want to try it the ability to revert. The other thing that would be helpful is if we had TWRP, which I'm sure the kernel release will help with and also give us an option of reverting.
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on twitter they said that the images would be coming soon. My guess is that means like the next week or 2
Yep, I am aware. But "soon"tm is about the most grey area response anyone can give. Without hard dates, it really means nothing lol. I am impressed that they delivered on the kernel source so quickly, though.
I was kinda hoping this phone would never get an update.
That's a weird thing to say
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Good to hear, I was wondering.
Oreo
So has anyone heard yet when the oreo update will be released? I had a Sony Xperia XZ premium with Android N and went to Oreo and there were very big differences, somehow the camera got even better than it already was, and everything seemed to run much better, however I had already started a return on the Xperia because there were things I didn't like about it, the biggest of which not having a activated fingerprint sensor because no Sony phone shipped to and sold in the US is allowed to have the fingerprint sensor working, they all have to be deactivated and nobody seems to know exactly what the reason for this is. But I was able after the update to oreo shoot a picture in a almost pitch black room with no flash and it amazingly got a clear photo of everything in the room. I was literally amazed as I had never seen a camera on a phone or any other camera for that matter do what it was able to do. But I ordered my essential phone and didn't after I ordered it the Xperia got oreo and I couldn't keep it because there's no return on the essential phone because I got it on ebay, which I got the Xperia on ebay too, but it had a 30 days return policy. But also the Xperia has the glass front and back and as much as I drop my phone that's just asking for a broken shattered phone within a month for a 850.00 phone so I got the essential phone and at first was very disappointed with its camera, then I got the camera update and it was much better but still bad compared to the Xperia and my moto z Force Droid 1st generation camera. I installed the Google pixel camera software and the essential is very very good now but still low light could be better. It's a beautiful phone in every other aspect. I fell in love with it the second I picked it up and it is so dense and don't bend or anything with its titanium frame and ceramic back. The ceramic don't scratch even with a razor blade it didn't leavs a mark, but ceramic can certainly shatter its no different them ceramic tile in your bathroom or kitchen granted the smaller ceramic is the harder it is to break but it can happen. There's really no cases for the essential phone yet except for 2, and I got a tudia case and was pleasantly surprised it is as nice as it is, fits beautifully yet virtually adds no weight to the phone and no bulk. It's still smaller then my z force with no case on the z Force and holding the Xperia after this felt like I was holding a humongous ancient phone because it is huge bigger than the z Force even. But anyway I didn't mean to ramble on like this, I'm brand new to this site but I just wanted to give my honest opinion / review on the essential phone ph-1 in hopes more people jump off the iPhone wagon and buy essential phones, because this phone is half the cost of iPhone x it was just reduced to $499.99 from $699.99 and I love that it will get 2 major android upgrades and security upgrades for 3 years. It has the snapdragon 835, 4gb ram, 128gb internal storage but no SD card slot which with 128gb storage that should be plenty for most people if they keep this phone for even 3 years. I am quite certain that the snapdragon 835 will be a very fast soc for at least 3-5 years. They are getting to a point in smartphones that people are not upgrading as much because these phones are so good now that they do almost anything you need them to do. I literally used to hate smartphones and always used my laptop with pclinuxos se (security edition) kde3. And I started using smartphones in 2014 a little over 3 years ago. Since then I've literally only been on any of my computers maybe 10 to 20 times because I can do almost every single thing on my phone now. But props to Andy Ruben for making this phone top of the line flagship build and performance for a mid grade phone price. Oh and the notch.. I don't even notice it 99% of the time and is smaller than the huge iPhone x notch. So people, if you want a great phone, look no farther than this phone. You won't be disappointed as long as you install the Google camera software. But if anyone knows when or where to get android O for the essential phone please let me know. Thanks.
Essentially essential said:
So has anyone heard yet when the oreo update will be released? I had a Sony Xperia XZ premium with Android N and went to Oreo and there were very big differences, somehow the camera got even better than it already was, and everything seemed to run much better, however I had already started a return on the Xperia because there were things I didn't like about it, the biggest of which not having a activated fingerprint sensor because no Sony phone shipped to and sold in the US is allowed to have the fingerprint sensor working, they all have to be deactivated and nobody seems to know exactly what the reason for this is. But I was able after the update to oreo shoot a picture in a almost pitch black room with no flash and it amazingly got a clear photo of everything in the room. I was literally amazed as I had never seen a camera on a phone or any other camera for that matter do what it was able to do. But I ordered my essential phone and didn't after I ordered it the Xperia got oreo and I couldn't keep it because there's no return on the essential phone because I got it on ebay, which I got the Xperia on ebay too, but it had a 30 days return policy. But also the Xperia has the glass front and back and as much as I drop my phone that's just asking for a broken shattered phone within a month for a 850.00 phone so I got the essential phone and at first was very disappointed with its camera, then I got the camera update and it was much better but still bad compared to the Xperia and my moto z Force Droid 1st generation camera. I installed the Google pixel camera software and the essential is very very good now but still low light could be better. It's a beautiful phone in every other aspect. I fell in love with it the second I picked it up and it is so dense and don't bend or anything with its titanium frame and ceramic back. The ceramic don't scratch even with a razor blade it didn't leavs a mark, but ceramic can certainly shatter its no different them ceramic tile in your bathroom or kitchen granted the smaller ceramic is the harder it is to break but it can happen. There's really no cases for the essential phone yet except for 2, and I got a tudia case and was pleasantly surprised it is as nice as it is, fits beautifully yet virtually adds no weight to the phone and no bulk. It's still smaller then my z force with no case on the z Force and holding the Xperia after this felt like I was holding a humongous ancient phone because it is huge bigger than the z Force even. But anyway I didn't mean to ramble on like this, I'm brand new to this site but I just wanted to give my honest opinion / review on the essential phone ph-1 in hopes more people jump off the iPhone wagon and buy essential phones, because this phone is half the cost of iPhone x it was just reduced to $499.99 from $699.99 and I love that it will get 2 major android upgrades and security upgrades for 3 years. It has the snapdragon 835, 4gb ram, 128gb internal storage but no SD card slot which with 128gb storage that should be plenty for most people if they keep this phone for even 3 years. I am quite certain that the snapdragon 835 will be a very fast soc for at least 3-5 years. They are getting to a point in smartphones that people are not upgrading as much because these phones are so good now that they do almost anything you need them to do. I literally used to hate smartphones and always used my laptop with pclinuxos se (security edition) kde3. And I started using smartphones in 2014 a little over 3 years ago. Since then I've literally only been on any of my computers maybe 10 to 20 times because I can do almost every single thing on my phone now. But props to Andy Ruben for making this phone top of the line flagship build and performance for a mid grade phone price. Oh and the notch.. I don't even notice it 99% of the time and is smaller than the huge iPhone x notch. So people, if you want a great phone, look no farther than this phone. You won't be disappointed as long as you install the Google camera software. But if anyone knows when or where to get android O for the essential phone please let me know. Thanks.
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Oh man! I tried to read your post but got lost after several lines. Paragraphing would be nice. Actually, essentially essential!
cswithxda said:
Oh man! I tried to read your post but got lost after several lines. Paragraphing would be nice. Actually, essentially essential!
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No kidding - I didn't bother reading past the first couple sentences.
But to answer his post - no one knows exactly when Oreo is coming for this phone.
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JasonJoel said:
No kidding - I didn't bother reading past the first couple sentences.
But to answer his post - no one knows exactly when Oreo is coming for this phone.
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We do too, soon™
Same as when the restore images and uncompressed images from the stock app will be here. Also, the Rapture.
Exactly. I'm sure it will come, eventually.
I have Oreo on my pixel XL and Nexus 6p, and use basically none of the new features. So I could care less when it comes to this phone.
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they are bringing some pixel features to the phone like using the fingerprint sensor for the notification tray which is awesome. really hope they add double tap to wake. i think every phone with a back fingerprint sensor should have this. If they add these things i would really think about picking one up again
Yup each to their own. I never use either of those features in my pixel XL.
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jerflash said:
they are bringing some pixel features to the phone like using the fingerprint sensor for the notification tray which is awesome. really hope they add double tap to wake. i think every phone with a back fingerprint sensor should have this. If they add these things i would really think about picking one up again
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They already implemented fingerprint notification shade. Check patch notes on the 10/30 update.
Double tap to wake and an ambient display similar to OnePlus would be ideal. Actually oxygen os would be ideal.
xxBrun0xx said:
They already implemented fingerprint notification shade. Check patch notes on the 10/30 update.
Double tap to wake and an ambient display similar to OnePlus would be ideal. Actually oxygen os would be ideal.
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Oh nice thanks
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