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Anyone else using the app Auto Airplane mode? It is a cracker of an app for battery life on standby (got 3 days of sporadic use, about 4 hours, and still have 49% batt left on the tablet). However, I am finding that the tablet lags really badly after waking up from a couple of hours or more of screen off time. Really bad lag, lasting at least several minutes after wake up. I get sick of the lag after 5 minutes or so and cold boot it, which completely fixes lag. I know it has to update apps, mail etc after wireless comes back on, but this probably shouldn't take minutes to do. Anyone else experiencing this problem? I want to keep the app, but I need the tablet to be responsive when I wake it up, cause I use it at work to take notes, make appointments etc.
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Mike.
This app was great in the early Prime Firmware, but is no longer necessary. There are 2 seperate places in settings that give you roughly the same thing. Go to WiFi, hit the three dot menu, select advanced and "Turn off wifi during sleep" I prefer the "only keep wifi on when plugged in" option, but you can choose never or always. Second, in Asus Custom Settings, you can stop all syncing while in sleep mode. This will also cause the tab to do some updates when you wake iy, but I wpuld look into just how mich crap you are actually syncing if you are seeing that kind of lag. Go to accounts in settings and sellect each account, especially the Google primary account, you will see what apps are syncing here. Get rid of auto airplane mode app. Its niche has been filled by stock firmware, with the exception of GPS, which does not shut down in sleep mode without it. Its a little more effort to manually contfol it, but getting almost the same benefits with a stock firmware option is always preferable in my opinion. Consider: The auto airplane app has to run in memory, thus consuming SOME battery, though it's likely negligible.
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As the title asks, what is it? I know that turning off the screen with power button is not sleeping. I believe it is the state when it takes more than a second (lag) to unlock the screen. This means that the phone was in sleep state and I woke it up. But the question remains, that what is it? How and when is it activated? What happens when the phone is sleeping? Effect on battery (I believe it's positive)? The notifications like sms and call? Is only the screen asleep or are the other functions sleeping as well? Final question, Can I activate the sleep mode with the help of an application if it helps save the battery?
Note that I don't want to use battery saver apps because I don't want anything on my phone to stop. I paid for the whole phone, "including" gps, wifi and things like that. Smartphones are for us, we are not for smartphones.
usman farhat said:
As the title asks, what is it? I know that turning off the screen with power button is not sleeping. I believe it is the state when it takes more than a second (lag) to unlock the screen. This means that the phone was in sleep state and I woke it up. But the question remains, that what is it? How and when is it activated? What happens when the phone is sleeping? Effect on battery (I believe it's positive)? The notifications like sms and call? Is only the screen asleep or are the other functions sleeping as well? Final question, Can I activate the sleep mode with the help of an application if it helps save the battery?
Note that I don't want to use battery saver apps because I don't want anything on my phone to stop. I paid for the whole phone, "including" gps, wifi and things like that. Smartphones are for us, we are not for smartphones.
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Technically; sleep mode starts the moment the screen is switched off. With the exception of applications which can prevent the phone from fully 'sleeping'. A good and obvious example is the music application which keeps the phone awake in order to play music.
There's really nothing special about sleep mode except that the phone will execute a lot more tasks together but less frequently in order to save power, so you're still able to receive all messages, emails, calls and all notifications (from apps). Applications can also be informed about the change in power state (awake to sleep and sleep to awake) and therefore change the way they behave.
The amount of sleep time the phone gets is dependent on the apps you have installed and the amount of emails, calls and other notifications you get. There isn't a way to enable 'sleep mode' with an application as it would make little difference if your display is on. Your display is the main cause of power consumption, as is true with all smartphones.
Battery Saver apps are dangerous, by killing apps they have a negative impact on the phone. If the application is needed, the phone will restart it and add to the CPU cycles. The same goes with memory freeing apps. GPS/Bluetooth/WiFi are there for when you need them. Keeping them on when they're not needed is a waste of the phone's resources. As the more CPU cycles they use, the more power they consume.
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Technically; sleep mode starts the moment the screen is switched off. With the exception of applications which can prevent the phone from fully 'sleeping'. A good and obvious example is the music application which keeps the phone awake in order to play music.
There's really nothing special about sleep mode except that the phone will execute a lot more tasks together but less frequently in order to save power, so you're still able to receive all messages, emails, calls and all notifications (from apps). Applications can also be informed about the change in power state (awake to sleep and sleep to awake) and therefore change the way they behave.
The amount of sleep time the phone gets is dependent on the apps you have installed and the amount of emails, calls and other notifications you get. There isn't a way to enable 'sleep mode' with an application as it would make little difference if your display is on. Your display is the main cause of power consumption, as is true with all smartphones.
Battery Saver apps are dangerous, by killing apps they have a negative impact on the phone. If the application is needed, the phone will restart it and add to the CPU cycles. The same goes with memory freeing apps. GPS/Bluetooth/WiFi are there for when you need them. Keeping them on when they're not needed is a waste of the phone's resources. As the more CPU cycles they use, the more power they consume.
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That's a good explanation
I have read about term "deep sleep" while searching for this, but the explanations on the internet are not clear to me. I have understood a part of it, that this state comes when phone is at rest for too long. The phone pauses apps and their processes, except those who are downloading e.g games and only does basic tasks such as incoming communications (message, call etc.) and sync. Again, I could not find answer to when it state/mode starts.
About GPS/Bluetooth/WiFi: I said this because I had seen people talking about how they have to force otherwise unnecessary restrictions on them and thus have to worry too much to save their batteries. This is what I don't like. Technology is made to facilitate people and to make their lives easy, that's what I believe. On the other hand, I always keep bluetooth off because I need it very rarely. Well, you may have other preferences but I have to keep gps on in order to geo tag photos and to make it ready whenever I open maps etc. Wifi according to me is life blood of smartphones. So I can't live without it either.
When I had Nokia 5800 I had to turn off auto rotate because its menu took time to refresh if I turned the phone by mistake. That was the time when I came to know how bad it feels to go through the settings to turn it on when I need it urgently.
With Stamina Mode on, the battery is decent. My question is,
1) if I have it on 24/7 forever, will it harm the Z3 alot?
2) if I keep using it with screen on like playing games and have the stamina mode on, will battery goes even faster then its not on?
3) what about the ultimate Stamina mode?
I'm also wondering about that. Hope someone will post here some information.
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With Stamina Mode on, the battery is decent. My question is,
1) if I have it on 24/7 forever, will it harm the Z3 alot?
2) if I keep using it with screen on like playing games and have the stamina mode on, will battery goes even faster then its not on?
3) what about the ultimate Stamina mode?
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1) No, it won't harm the Z3 at all.
2) Stamina mode, if you set it up for extended usage will limit the performance which you may, or may not notice when playing games. Battery drain will be less than without Stamina mode.
3) What about it? With it on your data connections are gone, Calls and SMS are your only communication mediums available, and a limited selection of basic apps (Calendar, Clcock, Album, FM Radio, Calculator) and the Camera. This of course rules out gaming.
Phil
Ultra Stamina Mode is usually for when your battery hits the 10-15% mark and you need extra juice for the next few hours. As mentioned there is no data so only calls and SMS.
So ultra stamina is like in aeroplane mode. No wifi/bluetooth as well?
STAMINA mode effect can be seen only when screen is off.
I will quote sony
When the screen is off, in order to save battery life, WIFI and mobile data will be temporarily disabled, and most applications will be inactive.
When the screen is ON, your phone will function normally.
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So that means, when screen is ON, stamina dosent do anything. Your phone will act like there is no stamina mode at all.
Here is information about Queue background data
Another new and important power management feature is the Queue background data* functionality, which minimises the number of network connection attempts when the screen is off. By queuing and releasing all network requests at set intervals of 15 minutes, the time spent in the connected radio state is minimised and the battery life is increased. When Stamina Mode is enabled, the Queue background data will only queue the connections for white listed applications, since all other applications are already blocked from using network connections.
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Ultra stamina mode
Ultra Stamina mode disabling all but phone, messaging, calendar and camera functions.
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Hope it clear out for you guys a little bit.
I have problems with Stamina Mode. It doesn't work for majority of the apps. Meaning, even if I don't whitelist an app in the stamina mode, their notifications shows up and they send/receive data: Pushbullet, Gmail, Twitter are only few examples.
Is this the case for any of you?
Can you post screenshot of your configuration so i can tell you more.
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Can you post screenshot of your configuration so i can tell you more.
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Sure there you go:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mz5mgqubce8ohzg/Screenshot_2014-10-03-20-04-22.png?dl=0
and https://www.dropbox.com/s/1tykstb759e2rs8/Screenshot_2014-10-03-20-04-28.png?dl=0
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Sure there you go:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mz5mgqubce8ohzg/Screenshot_2014-10-03-20-04-22.png?dl=0
and https://www.dropbox.com/s/1tykstb759e2rs8/Screenshot_2014-10-03-20-04-28.png?dl=0
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Based on this, everything should work fine. Only two apps are allowed, and this too check for notification every 15min while screen is off.
I dont know what cause the problem :/.
Also, remember when you put your phone to charger, stamina is disabled while charging.
Yeah and I can't be the only one
First I thought the problem might be due to light flow app but disabled that and tried without that and result is the same.
(Should I have uninstalled, not sure but I just disabled light flow when testing)
Just out of curiosity, is there anyway to auto trigger stamina mode without rooting the phone?
Shudder123 said:
Just out of curiosity, is there anyway to auto trigger stamina mode without rooting the phone?
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Turn on Stamina Mode, and you can set what percentage of battery it activates at.
Here's the thing, since I sold my z2 I've been browsing around different manufacturers, but that's not too relevant, just wanting to say I have experience with Sony and stamina mode since I've owned:
Z, Z Ultra, Z2 (some others not from sony) and now Z3.
The thing is that either Stamina is now unusable when compared to what I remember on previous owned Sony phones, or there's something I'm setting up wrong...
First I know that after enabling Stamina, you can add exceptions, basically applications that will still receive notifications while Stamina mode is ON.
On my past Sony phones, this meant instant notifications, as it was expected, I guess, and I was happy with it, as I need to have gmail, calendar and some messaging app always connected.
Now onto Z3.
I see that just turning on Stamina won't let me add exceptions, and that requires extended standby to be ON too.
Ok, I turn it on and it says that it will turn off mobile data and wi-fi, and I'm like wtf how will I get notifications then? Anyway I turn it ON set my usual apps in exceptions list...and this is where the "fun" begins.
It seems like the exceptions list I set simply does not matter as I will not get any notifications if the screen is off. And I mean NO notification whatsoever. If I turn the screen on, they all appear.
So this is not like I am expecting for Stamina mode to work...does Sony really ruined this piece of software like it seems?
How is it that on my other Sony phones Stamina worked as expected: very low standby drain with notifications actually always incoming (only from apps in exceptions)? Vs this thing now, which is basically useless if you want to have some notifications still, with it turned on.
Disable the "data/Wi-Fi off when screen off" toggle, maybe?
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Disable the "data/Wi-Fi off when screen off" toggle, maybe?
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You cannot have Stamina Mode enabled without turning ON the Extended Standy mode too...which turns off the mobile/wi-fi data. Smart isn't it?
EDIT: To add to the issue, if I enable and then disable the stamina mode, it aparently stops notifications permanently for some apps...what the actual F?
I have it:
*Stamina on
*Active 100%
*Extended off
*Performance limit on
*Watch mode disabled (since extended in disabled)
Why can't you do it?
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I have it:
*Stamina on
*Active 100%
*Extended off
*Performance limit on
*Watch mode disabled (since extended in disabled)
Why can't you do it?
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Because my phone apparently won't let me.
I CANNOT, repeat, CANNOT let stamina ON without enabling extended standby. It's that simple...this thing sucks
D6603? 5.1.1 ? At least firmwarea .232? Maybe even .264?
Here's a "proof" from .200/.232/.264 at least: https://i.imgur.com/iE1iiLo.png
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D6603? 5.1.1 ? At least firmwarea .232? Maybe even .264?
Here's a "proof" from .200/.232/.264 at least: https://i.imgur.com/iE1iiLo.png
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Just updated with the stagefright fix build, I see what you set up there, but what is the meaning of stamina mode like that? That is just a performance reducing feature, not Stamina, it I set it up like that.
Just to add to the injury, to some apps that were in the exceptions that did not receive notifications in stamina mode (or extended mode whatevs) I had to clead cache/data for them, to actually receive notifications again AFTER disabling extended batt mode.
I cannot fathom how wrong this thing is, they basically ruined a perfectly working feature of the phone, that I actually liked/used.
Not sure how you want it to turn off the internet when screen off (as the text says it will) yet allow them to work and have notifications on time? Maybe have some at an interval ( as the other switch says) ?
Just because it did it in the old phones does not mean anything.
Oh, do you use any firewall? It needs to be whitelisted too.
In the mean time how much does a full charge hold you anyway? 2 days? Less?
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Not sure how you want it to turn off the internet when screen off (as the text says it will) yet allow them to work and have notifications on time? Maybe have some at an interval ( as the other switch says) ?
Just because it did it in the old phones does not mean anything.
Oh, do you use any firewall? It needs to be whitelisted too.
In the mean time how much does a full charge hold you anyway? 2 days? Less?
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If it was possible then? Why not anymore? Software regresses on Xperias now? Damn wrong if that's true.
I also thought there must be an interval at which notifications are being checked for whitelisted apps, but If I receive a message on whatsapp at let's say 3 o'clock it will not notify me even after 2 hours. (this happened)
Tried factory reset, firmware update, all that I could, but no go.
No firewall also, clean connection. A full charge gets me trough two days mostly, one and a half if I go insane wiht picture taking and gaming. All in all pretty good battery life, but not that amazing compared to the old Z2.
I think I need to get rid by this OCD of having features that actually work, by flashin the marshmallow concept build, at least that one doesn't have Stamina mode!
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A full charge gets me trough two days mostly, one and a half if I go insane wiht picture taking and gaming.
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That's ok.
Compare Z2 vs Z3, not sure who promised you "better" battery life on the Z3 but they lied.
Hi,
I come from sony xperia z3 compact, which had a really cool feature, stamina mode, and what i especially liked about it, is that when it was activated and you locked your phone (screen lock) - it restricted ALL background data, no exceptions. Only when you lighted the screen, it would activate the data. Does anyone know, how can i achieve the same feature with the Samsung S7. Basically all i want is that if i lock my screen, all the background data is truly disabled?
Samsung's equivalent of stamina mode would be the "Power Saving" option, of which there is two tiers("Mid"and "Max"). Background data is restricted by default in both modes, although I think the "Mid" tier still allows it periodically.
Yeah i saw them, thanks for the input, although the MAX setting makes the phone lose its features. I will try the MID setting (i disabled the limiting of cpu and some other stuff, because i want it to function normally when i use it). Maybe theres an app, that will make it work just like i want it. Because the s7 battery should last longer - with sony, wifi off and background data restricted, i sometimes got like 4 days without charging. I am not a 24/7 nose in the screen type of a guy anyways, i mostly call and when neccessary look stuff up on google and read my mails. Would be nice to extend this S7 battery to around 3 days or so with such usage.
Mickovich said:
Yeah i saw them, thanks for the input, although the MAX setting makes the phone lose its features. I will try the MID setting (i disabled the limiting of cpu and some other stuff, because i want it to function normally when i use it). Maybe theres an app, that will make it work just like i want it. Because the s7 battery should last longer - with sony, wifi off and background data restricted, i sometimes got like 4 days without charging. I am not a 24/7 nose in the screen type of a guy anyways, i mostly call and when neccessary look stuff up on google and read my mails. Would be nice to extend this S7 battery to around 3 days or so with such usage.
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You can add *some* apps for use in MAX mode, most notably WhatsApp. Maybe use Tasker to toggle data when the screen turns off?(Would need root though). But yeah, there's only so much you can do for a big AMOLED paired to a power hungry SoC I've never known more than a day and a half's usage though. Perhaps other people have better suggestions.
so far its been 6,5h since last charge, and its on 91% - with the mid power saver mode, cpu limiter disabled, screen res on FHD, screen brightness about 40-45%, wifi off, and gps on high accurancy - it looks somewhat promising. I'll see how long it will last on that charge and proceed from there.