Hello all,
I want to format my phone for use it with F2FS partition,
but I have one question : somebody have a simple way to backup ALL the phone (not just a system backup, but memory too)
If not i will use adb pull, but not the easyest way I think
thanks for your solution if you have one
Backup apps with titanium backup, make nandroid for extra protection, adb pull /data
There is no easier way than that
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Before people start coming in to flame me for using the search button, please let me clarify that i have looked into several threads on xda and none of them provided me with a clear cut answer of what i wanted to know.
I understand first of all is that nandroid backup is a complete image of what is on the phone which should include stuff like settings, sms, call logs, data etc. What i have not found, however, if they keep other files that are lying around in the phone. For example, most of my Nexus S consists of videos and music (7-10GB) and in separate folders that are not tied to any apps in particular. Hence, if they are included in nandroid backup i would not have sufficient storage to do so (reminder that Nexus S has 16 GB)
I have "accidentally" posted on the galaxy S forum of xda and someone pointed out that it backs up apps and data from the internal SD. As far as i know this is slightly different with Nexus S because i observed that most apps are already installed in the "external" SD portion of the data.
Overall, i'm just a little confused. Can anyone clarify this?
It is just apps and data. The sd card is i believe split so that it doesnt touch your music, videos, and images. It just takes care of the main system stuff like apps and settings. Hoped i helped
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But aren't most apps on the nexus S installed on the sd card section of the storage? At least they are under Settings->Application settings->Manage applications->USB Storage
For example my Gameloft games would be almost 1 GB in size so would that be backed up as well. I will end up with gigantic nandroid backups.
A nAnroid backup includes
.android_source - apps2sd information/apps stored on /sdcard
boot - boot image
cache - cache files stored on /cache
data - apps, dalvik other stuff on /data
recovery - recovery image
system - system apps, frameworks modules etc on /system
nadroid.md5 - md5 information
nandroids do not include anything on the /sdcard other than .android_source.
how to do it? by using CWM?? am i wrong or correct??
ciwek90 said:
how to do it? by using CWM?? am i wrong or correct??
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Correct.
Flash ClockworkMod.
(You might have to rename /etc/install-recovery.sh to get it to stick.)
Boot into fastboot (volumeUp+ power).
Recovery - Backup and Restore - Backup.
Maximilian Mary said:
Correct.
Flash ClockworkMod.
(You might have to rename /etc/install-recovery.sh to get it to stick.)
Boot into fastboot (volumeUp+ power).
Recovery - Backup and Restore - Backup.
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Awesome! but if i want to flash custom rom and i do backup first then i flash new custom rom, so i can get back all my apps by restoring nandroid backup is it? or nandroid backup is only for when things went wrong? i confuse...
ciwek90 said:
Awesome! but if i want to flash custom rom and i do backup first then i flash new custom rom, so i can get back all my apps by restoring nandroid backup is it? or nandroid backup is only for when things went wrong? i confuse...
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Nandroid is basically all or nothing. There is an advanced restore which can restore only the partitions you want (like system or data), but it probably won't play nicely with a custom rom. Your best best is to use titanium backup for user apps & data, and perhaps some select system data like texts, bookmarks, and wifi settings. Check out the batch backup/restore options for user apps & data.
ciwek90 said:
Awesome! but if i want to flash custom rom and i do backup first then i flash new custom rom, so i can get back all my apps by restoring nandroid backup is it? or nandroid backup is only for when things went wrong? i confuse...
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Nandroid backup backs up everything including the rom... so NO you can't restore apps with it.
To just save apks/apps you use eg Titanium Backup.
NOW i know it! Thank you so much @Maximilian Mary and @rentaric for helping me!
Nandroid = for backup/restore previous rom
Titanium = for backup/restore data & apps
Thanks again!
rentaric said:
Nandroid backup backs up everything including the rom... so NO you can't restore apps with it.
To just save apks/apps you use eg Titanium Backup.
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Bro, does nandroid backup include the IMEI also?
heyimCHOLO said:
Bro, does nandroid backup include the IMEI also?
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Some recoveries have this option buy many don't, just boot to your recovery and see if it is listed as an option, if not, then no
Your apps will still be on your sd card because your just restoring your operating system that you had with all of it settings it will show all of your apps you had but if you deleted it from the sd card when you try opening it it would say app not installed. Nandroid backup saves everything in settings and operating system apps will be on sd card. Some apps can be included in nandroid it just depends where they are located when back up is saved.
i knew this would be a possibility after encrypting the phone so i made a nandroid beforehand. now, when i tried to make nandroid it just states it cant back up system and errors out with "cant mount /data" . is there a way to do a nandroid within the android OS?
dz2k said:
i knew this would be a possibility after encrypting the phone so i made a nandroid beforehand. now, when i tried to make nandroid it just states it cant back up system and errors out with "cant mount /data" . is there a way to do a nandroid within the android OS?
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Since the phone boots into CWM and not Android, it cannot read the encrypted data on the phone. I am not aware of any way you can do a nandroid with an encrypted phone. If you are looking to just protect personal data, is encrypting JUST the SDCARD an option that might work for you?
mjb32803 said:
If you are looking to just protect personal data, is encrypting JUST the SDCARD an option that might work for you?
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I would think you'd have to keep an unencrypted external SDCARD to back up to though in this case. If the internal is encrypted i doubt that CWM would be able to use it as a backup source
I believe to date the only option is to unencrypt before going into CWM to do your backup. The other option (not a full backup I know) would be to see if an app such as Titanium backup which can also back up system apps will fit your need.
CWM and nandroid are separate from the OS. The /sdcard partition is encrypted by the OS, and as such, only the OS can access it, including for backup purposes.
i didnt encrypt the external sd card as it only gave the option to encrypt new data. i already had lots of media files on it and its not a big deal. im glad i made a nandroid before encrypting the phone! i want the encryption of the OS more so than anything..lol. not that i have much to hide but still..
ill continue using titanium backup for apps i get. thanks all!
update: online nandroid on the market has given nandroids a life again!
If I flash a ROM and then want to restore all my apps and data, why should I use Titanium?
1. So I see that my google "Backup account" can backup my data and restore apps and there settings and data. So why use Titanium?
2. whats the difference between googles backup and Titanium's?
3. Can I use both together when restoring? I assume google will restore first and then I will restore from Titanium... Is there any reason to restore from google account?
4. And then there's TWRP and its backup: what I understand about this is if I do a backup before I flash Viper Rom then I can flash my backup if I want to return to my old ROM and it will restore the ROM and apps and all data (so I wouldn't need to restore from Titanium and/or google in this scenario?). Is this correct?
Thanks, smoka
the app data that is being talked about is rarely 3rd party app data.
http://www.howtogeek.com/140376/htg-explains-what-android-data-is-backed-up-automatically/
titanium lets you back up apps whenever you please it even lets you keep old copies around if for some reason there is something in an update you don't like.
your assumptions on TWRP are spot on however if you make a backup today and a month down the road you decide to flash back all your apps have data from a month ago and you loose all your new stuff.
Titanium also lets you extract data from a TWRP or CWM backup. at least on an M8 I've only gotten it to work if the backup is on the "internal sd card"
Titanium pro has a lot of additional features scheduled backups. you can sync to a google drive, dropbox, or box account. backing up only data/apps that have changed.
http://matrixrewriter.com/android/
also if you have backups of everything and all you have is a metered net connection you can reinstall the apps without dipping into whatever data pool you have.
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the app data that is being talked about is rarely 3rd party app data.
http://www.howtogeek.com/140376/htg-explains-what-android-data-is-backed-up-automatically/
titanium lets you back up apps whenever you please it even lets you keep old copies around if for some reason there is something in an update you don't like.
your assumptions on TWRP are spot on however if you make a backup today and a month down the road you decide to flash back all your apps have data from a month ago and you loose all your new stuff.
Titanium also lets you extract data from a TWRP or CWM backup. at least on an M8 I've only gotten it to work if the backup is on the "internal sd card"
Titanium pro has a lot of additional features scheduled backups. you can sync to a google drive, dropbox, or box account. backing up only data/apps that have changed.
http://matrixrewriter.com/android/
also if you have backups of everything and all you have is a metered net connection you can reinstall the apps without dipping into whatever data pool you have.
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ok, so what if I do a Titanium backup and then use TWRP to restore from a backup "a month ago" and then will I still have my most resent Titanium backup to restore or will restoring the TWRP backup erase all my current data (titanium backup) on my phone?
thanks for you response
TWRP will not remove your Titanium backups unless you specifically tell it to wipe your sd card (sdcard2) or your personal data partition(sdcard1) depending on where you have it set to back things up to.
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ok, so what if I do a Titanium backup and then use TWRP to restore from a backup "a month ago" and then will I still have my most resent Titanium backup to restore or will restoring the TWRP backup erase all my current data (titanium backup) on my phone?
thanks for you response
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TWRP takes a snapshot of your system in time. I you do a TWRP nandroid, by default it will copy your /boot, /system, /recovery and /data partitions. Think of it like a restore point in Windows Restore - except better
Titanium Backup is more specific (and also or more limited): You use it for your apps and their data.
It becomes useful if you do a clean install as in: wiping your data partition.
Yes, you can also do a partial restore from TWRP and just restore the data partition of any given nandroid after a clean install, but since it's an image of your /data before the wipe it will also restore potential problems. Restoring with TiBu is somewhat "cleaner" since it re-installs your apps from a backup.
I make a nandroid of my system when I want to flash something new - a new rom or new mod - but I want to keep my option to return to my last working setup.
I use TiBu to reinstall my apps after a clean install.
Anyway - you can never have too many backups :laugh:
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TWRP takes a snapshot of your system in time. I you do a TWRP nandroid, by default it will copy your /boot, /system, /recovery and /data partitions. Think of it like a restore point in Windows Restore - except better
Titanium Backup is more specific (and also or more limited): You use it for your apps and their data.
It becomes useful if you do a clean install as in: wiping your data partition.
Yes, you can also do a partial restore from TWRP and just restore the data partition of any given nandroid after a clean install, but since it's an image of your /data before the wipe it will also restore potential problems. Restoring with TiBu is somewhat "cleaner" since it re-installs your apps from a backup.
I make a nandroid of my system when I want to flash something new - a new rom or new mod - but I want to keep my option to return to my last working setup.
I use TiBu to reinstall my apps after a clean install.
Anyway - you can never have too many backups :laugh:
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What is TiBu?
Titanium backup.lol.
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Having my V60EA rooted with all my apps installed and configured I started to wonder how to perform a backup.
On a file level I have working Swift Backup, NeoBackup and partially old good Titanium Backup.
The question is how to wisely backup on a partition level. TWRP seems to be not ready yet (or am I wrong?) What then? QFIL and manual backup of all those dozens of partitions? Or maybe this doesn't make sense as there is KDZ file? Maybe I should backup just a set of crucial partitions, like boot_a/b (already got them backed up) and some others?
From everything I've read so far, my first step will be to get into QFIL and make a backup of every single partition in case I make a huge stuffup and need to restore any of them. It seems to save a lot of people from certain doom.
Still battling to understand what a FTM is as this seems like it's going to be pretty important for my Verizon to make it to EA successfully.
I think you could omit user data partition if you use another backup tool like SwiftBackup, OAndBackupX/NeoBackup etc.
And there are about 108 other partitions to backup. System is the biggest or of them - 21GB. I've just backed them up.
Ok, via qfill backup QCN than backup vital partitions of LUN 5, maybe you will be need it some time.
Than make full backup partitions you do not need backup userdata partition.
I am working like this made backup full there is rooted made system rw and some customizations. Than when. I set all my userdata customization and apps I am using migrate tool to backup userdata apps, settings... Also I can using LP to backup apps data.
bandario said:
From everything I've read so far, my first step will be to get into QFIL and make a backup of every single partition in case I make a huge stuffup and need to restore any of them. It seems to save a lot of people from certain doom.
Still battling to understand what a FTM is as this seems like it's going to be pretty important for my Verizon to make it to EA successfully.
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You do not need backup single one by one partition, you can do it several of vital partitions than make backup.
If you want to croosflash Verizon to EA you do not need Verizon FTM you need EA FTM.
In FTM stored some temporary data like imei, ntcode, s/n... While first booting it write data from other vital partitions. You do not care so much about FTM.
Hi everyone. I guess this question, may be can be easy for many of you, or I don't know if is already posted , but please guide me.
I want to perform on android something like to a restore point on windows; I mean, that if I corrupt system or perform a hard reset after that restore point (or backup), I can restore everything (apps and customizations, and i hope, existing root access) exactly to when I did restore point.
I ask you this, because I think my device needs a factory reset to test something, but no matter the result of the test, I would need to waste hours and hours, by restoring everything to how it was before hard reset; so, if there's a tool that could save me those hours, wil be excellent.
So, thanks in advance, and please guide me.
for this you would need root. by stock, android cannot make a backup of your apps and settings. more exactly a twrp backup
Fytdyh said:
for this you would need root. by stock, android cannot make a backup of your apps and settings. more exactly a twrp backup
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Ok, I have twrp installed. ¿How I perform and then restore that "restore point"? ¿Is the backup made by twrp very big? I mean, ¿Do I need how much sd card free space to perform a successfully backup?
Only to have mentioned it:
If phone's Android is rooted and USB-Debugging is successfully enabled on it then you can perform a NANDROID backup ( a really full backup ) by means of ADB using Android's dd system command what allows you to store the backup on desktop computer.
xXx yYy said:
Only to have mentioned it:
If phone's Android is rooted and USB-Debugging is successfully enabled on it then you can perform a NANDROID backup ( a really full backup ) by means of ADB using Android's dd system command what allows you to store the backup on desktop computer.
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But there is a little problem: My usb support (mtp, adb and otg) is not working at all, so i guess my only possible option, is dump the restore point to the sdcard ¿or is there any other option?
Using TWRP to NANDROID backup the phone you can define the storage space where the backup sholuld go to: Internal Storage ( AKA /sdcard) , external Storage ( Memory Card ) or a Pen Drive via OTG cable. If you proceed with the latter 2, make sure to first mount it onto your device via the TWRP Mount option.
In your case backing up to Internal Storage doesn't make sense at all because you can't additionally save it to PC, too, due to lacking ADB support, IMO.
See also here: https://twrp.me/faq/backupexclusions.html