Hi Guys,
I tried searching the web for this but just couldn't find a concrete answer.
Do carrier related phones still depend on the carrier for OTA updates when unlocked or they receive timely updates directly from the manufacturer?
I am buying an Unlocked T mobile One S here in India obviously because of the superior S4 processor. I read in the forums that the T Mobile Jelly Bean update really messes up the battery life. Hence I was wondering if even I would have the same problem.
So my question is, will my phone in India also get the T Mobile update or the HTC one. Also in the future, would it be receiving all OTA updates from HTC?
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KRN03 said:
Hi Guys,
I tried searching the web for this but just couldn't find a concrete answer.
Do carrier related phones still depend on the carrier for OTA updates when unlocked or they receive timely updates directly from the manufacturer?
I am buying an Unlocked T mobile One S here in India obviously because of the superior S4 processor. I read in the forums that the T Mobile Jelly Bean update really messes up the battery life. Hence I was wondering if even I would have the same problem.
So my question is, will my phone in India also get the T Mobile update or the HTC one. Also in the future, would it be receiving all OTA updates from HTC?
Sent from my Nexus 4
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T-Mobile does not send the file themselves. Your CID, which is probably T-MOB010, is used to decide whether to give you world-wide, unbranded updates or something else. Yours will get the update from T-Mobile, but it will be released from HTC's servers
If you mean a SIM unlocked T-Mobile HTC One S, then yes, it will still receive OTA updates. Mine is SIM unlocked and still got the JB update.
Yes, would the unlocked T Mobile HTC one S have to wait for T Mobile JB update as per United States or since I am using it on Vodafone and in India, it would get the JB update as and when any other HTC One S in India gets it?
Glad if you could help.
Thanks.
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Yes, would the unlocked T Mobile HTC one S have to wait for T ......
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Yes you have to wait as T-Mobile modify ota update and test again over there network then release it
It lags 2-3 months
I purchased my s4 HTC One S black
2 month ago from USA but not T-Mobile version it is factory unlocked European version
My opinion try more & you will find same as mine don't buy T-Mobile version when you update them they can be lock again 3g net frequency problem also there
From HTC One S
Bought a OPU in the UK, where I currently live, but I might be moving the US within the next year for my job. Are the UK and US versions of the phone the same (e.g., LTE radios)? Or are the 4g/lte or other hardware different and/or incompatible? I tried looking up to find out if the OPO has a world phone vs a us phone like the Nexus 5 but couldn't find any info.
If you buy it directly from OnePlus it's the same phone anywhere in the world unless you but it in mainland China, then it's the Chinese version.
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Hi Guys.
I've got a sim-free Note3 and I'm using an O2 sim. Yesterday the Lollipop v5.0 was pushed to my device.
Does anyone know if that means that I'll get a further update to 5.01, 5.02, 5.x sometime soon?
Thanks.
Steve
What is your csc?
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you got screenshot of device info plz
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If its an O2 phone you get the O2 update .
Sim is nothing to do with updates .
O2 Android 5 has been available for weeks .
Thanks guys. I've no idea what 'csc' is?
It's not an O2 phone, it's sim-free, I just happen to use an O2 sim with it - does that make a difference?
It might have been available for weeks, but it only got pushed to my phone yesterday.
Thanks
Steve
I highly believe we will get Android M update, officially.
@OP: Just enjoy the 5.0 update. There won't be any 5.0.1 or 5.0.2, at least not very soon. Cause 5.0 has been available for a lot of countries for over two months now, and there is absolutely no scene of 5.0.1 or 2, so better believe that those won't come. I am just happy to see that Samsung finally pushed an update which got rid of that delay while clearing recent apps, however that was just release for one country, but I am sure a wider scale of the same will be released soon.
Thanks guys! That's just what I feared. Just shame that such a great phone lags behind other, older models. My wife's Galaxy S4 is on 5.01!
A phone has a number of codes ( as shown in Kies )
Basically if its a O2 supplied phone it will have an O2 code and O2 are the ones that update the firmware if they want to .
Generic non branded as in UK BTU may or may not be in advance or delayed .
Who gets the upgrade first is very varied and over the years its varied from country to country getting first releases . Usually the non branded gets released well before the branded stuff .
Thanks. I'd read that sim-free unbranded phones were always LAST to get updates. It's confusing!
So a couple years back on Black Friday I bought a Samsung Galaxy S4 from Cricket Wireless at a price of $200 and at first I felt like I got a great deal. I thought I was going to get the AT&T branded S4 (i337), but instead I got an obscure Cricket branded S4 (i337z). I was frustrated when the AT&T version received the update to lollipop but mine didn't. I'm looking to buy a new phone and have been doing a little research into it, but I still have a few questions.
1. Are unlocked cell phones more likely to get an android OS update than a carrier branded phone? Do they get them faster?
2. If I bought an unlocked Samsung or a Google Nexus, would I be able to update the OS without a Carrier OTA?
3. I've heard that Samsung & Google are now offering monthly security updates, do they rely on the carrier to push these updates or does it update directly from Samsung/Google? Will I still receive these security updates on a prepaid carrier like Cricket?
4. Are carrier branded phones even worth considering in your opinion?
Thank you for your time, and sorry for the newb questions.
Anyone have anything at all to add to this thread?
I'm a bit confused.
I just purchased an unlocked Pixel 7 Pro 256GB from Amazon -- Amazon is seller, NOT 3rd party seller with Amazon Fulfilment. I'm trying to root it now. I've been able to unlock the bootloader already. So I'm attempting to download the latest factory image but I'm quite confused as to which one to download. My current build number is TD1A.220804.009.A2. The A2 suffix seems to indicate that this build that came on this phone is for Telstra (AU) Australian market. My question is why is it on the unlocked model that Amazon USA is selling? But then there's no US image except for T-Mobile/Google Fi. Should I download the Global image or stick with the Telstra AU image?
Very confused.
I think all 3 are essentially the same; the only differences are special modifications to the radio for specific carrier (Telstra, Fi, T-Mobile) signals. I imagine, for your purposes, the A2 would be fine.
You might want to wait a couple of days as Google will release a new security firmware update in the next few days...
simplepinoi177 said:
I think all 3 are essentially the same; the only differences are special modifications to the radio for specific carrier (Telstra, Fi, T-Mobile) signals. I imagine, for your purposes, the A2 would be fine.
You might want to wait a couple of days as Google will release a new security firmware update in the next few days...
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Thanks for the suggestion. May I ask what build you're on? And what country you're in?
Lakino said:
Thanks for the suggestion. May I ask what build you're on? And what country you're in?
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No problem!
I'm in the US, on the Verizon network; that's how I learned since I asked the same thing about the difference between the verizon firmware update and the global one -- that it's basically the same other than special considerations to a specific network. The build I'm in is the Feb image TQ1A.230205.002.
Get on Google's website, get a US Verizon image, and flash it. Done. No issue.
Schroeder09 said:
Get on Google's website, get a US Verizon image, and flash it. Done. No issue.
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I believe the OP is on Telstra (or at least his device has its firmware version), the last Verizon image was in November -- so that is very outdated -- and it might do OP best to wait until March's images are released as it will in a couple of days...
But, if anything, flashing a Global image probably wouldn't do any harm even if OP decided to flash that one either...
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I believe the OP is on Telstra (or at least his device has its firmware version), the last Verizon image was in November -- so that is very outdated -- and it might do OP best to wait until March's images are released as it will in a couple of days...
But, if anything, flashing a Global image probably wouldn't do any harm even if OP decided to flash that one either...
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I guess my confusion stems from getting a Pixel 7 Pro from US Amazon that has a Telstra AU image preloaded. I'm in CA and my carrier is Xfinity -- which uses Verizon as their backbone. I'm not sure if I can just flash any of these builds on my Pixel 7 pro. Are their hardware differences between the models that are sent around the world? Can I flash the global build onto my Pixel 7 Pro?
So I think you "should" be fine but maybe someone else has a better answer for ya....however, if you can d/l an image just get the standard non-carrier version. I have been on Verizon forever and never use their image. Sometimes I will pull the radio out from it and see if that works better, but usually it does not as best as I can tell.
Also, maybe try this for your version answer...in Settings go to About Phone and then Regulatory Labels. There you will see the Model number for your particular P7P. Do a Google search on that and see what you find and post here to see if anyone can assist further.....mine is GE2AE as an example and I purchased direct from Google in California. Your CA maybe Canada
GL!!!
cmh714 said:
Also, maybe try this for your version answer...in Settings go to About Phone and then Regulatory Labels. There you will see the Model number for your particular P7P. Do a Google search on that and see what you find and post here to see if anyone can assist further.....mine is GE2AE as an example and I purchased direct from Google in California. Your CA maybe Canada
GL!!!
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Thanks. Mine is also GE2AE. I'm in California.
It's got regulatory approval for USA, Canada, EU, UK, AU/NZ, and JP.
So it sounds like I should be able to flash the generic Global build then.
13.0.0 (TQ1A.230205.002, Feb 2023)
There actually is a variant specifically for Verizon and Verizon MVNOs -- of which Xfinity is one.
13.0.0 (TD1A.221105.003, Nov 2022, Verizon, Verizon MVNOs)
But that Verizon variant is Nov 2022. I'll try the latest Global version I guess once March 2023 update comes out in a few days
edit: It still seems exceptionally odd to me that the P7P that Amazon is shipping from their USA warehouses came with an .A2 suffix variant which indicates it's meant for Telstra -- a big carrier in Australia.
Like I said, I dont use the Verizon version, I have always used the standard version. Also as I mentioned, usually the Verizon radio file is differnet, so I have tried flashing that, but never see any real gain. YMMV.
Also, since the March update will be this week, you may as well wait a few days.....IMHO. GL!
Use whatever version is the most recent. If there isn't a Feb Verizon version that means the Verizon specific network changes have been merged into the main branch.
Happens all the time, there will be separate versions now and then until they get it all merged into one. It has always been that way for the Pixels.
Lakino said:
I'm a bit confused.
I just purchased an unlocked Pixel 7 Pro 256GB from Amazon -- Amazon is seller, NOT 3rd party seller with Amazon Fulfilment. I'm trying to root it now. I've been able to unlock the bootloader already. So I'm attempting to download the latest factory image but I'm quite confused as to which one to download. My current build number is TD1A.220804.009.A2. The A2 suffix seems to indicate that this build that came on this phone is for Telstra (AU) Australian market. My question is why is it on the unlocked model that Amazon USA is selling? But then there's no US image except for T-Mobile/Google Fi. Should I download the Global image or stick with the Telstra AU image?
Very confused.
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A2 is what I've been using on unlocked same phone from Google play.
Just a heads up, but the global image works on every carrier in the United States. Just stick with the global builds so that some carrier bloatware isn't pulled in during your re-imaging.
So, although there are separate T-Mobile and Verizon factory images - you do not need to use them as the radio images in all of the US builds (and the global build) have the same available bands. The bands that are used are dictated by your SIM or eSIM. This information was provided to me when I had asked a Google rep why there was a T-Mobile factory image (as at one point, there hadn't been separate T-Mobile builds in the past).
Regardless, I have tested this as I have a pSIM (T-Mobile) and an eSIM (Verizon). I only use the global builds and get full network speeds and can connect to the UC and UW towers with both services - no issues whatsoever.
I'm on Verizon. I noticed the best battery life on November. I suspected I may have been because it's the only month since the p7p released that had a VZW-specific release file. I even asked if anyone else could confirm that the differences in radio files between the VZW update and the global could be the reason why many, many people noticed the best battery life on the November update. I asked multiple times to people noting the best battery life during November if they happened to be VZW customers who had chosen this update file. I never have heard an answer or discussion, so I'll ask here again since the topic of discussion is now in the foreground.
Could all the idle drain issues many people discovered since nothing that November update as the best all be VZW users who are now suffering from un-optimized, global radio.imgs in the update . zip? Are past radio files compatible with newer versions? For example, if tomorrow there is no VZW-specific update . zip file could I replace the march radio.img in the .zip with the VZW radio.img from November and then flash_all.bat that modified update .zip to be able to enjoy the optimized VZW radio? What other files are specific to VZW?
Just an FYI, I got an A2 Pixel from Amazon also. It sounds like it's safe to use the global image to root, correct?
bird333 said:
Just an FYI, I got an A2 Pixel for Amazon also. It sounds like it's safe to use the global image to root, correct?
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For the final time, YES, it is safe to use the global image even if you have an Australian Telstra firmware version on your device even though it was bought from Amazon US...please be finally reassured that it won't break anything and/or be of any issue...
simplepinoi177 said:
For the final time, YES, it is safe to use the global image even if you have an Australian Telstra firmware version on your device even though it was bought from Amazon US...please be finally reassured that it won't break anything and/or be of any issue...
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Better to be safe, asking questions thrice, than to end up with a bricked paper weight.
Samuel Holland said:
A2 is what I've been using on unlocked same phone from Google play.
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Thanks for your data point.
NippleSauce said:
Just a heads up, but the global image works on every carrier in the United States. Just stick with the global builds so that some carrier bloatware isn't pulled in during your re-imaging.
Regardless, I have tested this as I have a pSIM (T-Mobile) and an eSIM (Verizon). I only use the global builds and get full network speeds and can connect to the UC and UW towers with both services - no issues whatsoever.
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Thanks for your feedback.
bird333 said:
Just an FYI, I got an A2 Pixel from Amazon also. It sounds like it's safe to use the global image to root, correct?
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Thanks for chiming in with your A2 build from Amazon. At least now I know I'm not the only one getting an A2 build from Amazon USA.
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and it might do OP best to wait until March's images are released as it will in a couple of days...
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I'm starting to getting antsy waiting. The previous 3 months, they've released an update by the 6th or earlier, but nothing yet on Google site. Come on Google! Release the March 23 update already!
Lakino said:
I'm starting to getting antsy waiting. The previous 3 months, they've released an update by the 6th or earlier, but nothing yet on Google site. Come on Google! Release the March 23 update already!
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I feel you! This is rather unusual (although it has happened from time to time)...
many in other threads are voicing how anxious they are in waiting too... Google usually aims for the 5th, unless the 5th lands on the weekend (as it was in this case), then it usually aims for the Monday after. What's really crazy is the fact that Samsung has released their March update before Google; Samsung in the past would release months, close to year after Google's update!
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