Hello,
I have received the new R83 incremental, but I cant ota update since I have modified system apps. I am on stock rom, and stock kernel. Just root.
How can I update it since I have modified system apps? Do I need to go back to stock to install all the system apps I deleted or with manual update it will work?
If it does, can anyone show me link of the process?
Thank you!
ksarius said:
Hello,
I have received the new R83 incremental, but I cant ota update since I have modified system apps. I am on stock rom, and stock kernel. Just root.
How can I update it since I have modified system apps? Do I need to go back to stock to install all the system apps I deleted or with manual update it will work?
If it does, can anyone show me link of the process?
Thank you!
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I think you can flash the 38R OTA update with the modified script that makes the update not check your system files to see if they have been modified. The thread for the file is here. Just download and install through recovery. Not sure if you lose root after, but just reflash supersu if you do. Does anyone else agree?
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If I root the latest stock 4.4.2, will I still be able to get future OTA Updates without braking the root or custom recovery, well if root gets lost I can always root it again. Just asking, maybe I won't be able to get OTA Updates at all after rooting but I don't know so that's why I'm asking it here.
KuGeL94 said:
If I root the latest stock 4.4.2, will I still be able to get future OTA Updates without braking the root or custom recovery, well if root gets lost I can always root it again. Just asking, maybe I won't be able to get OTA Updates at all after rooting but I don't know so that's why I'm asking it here.
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Yes!
SWTR said:
Yes!
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Indeed.
KuGeL94 said:
If I root the latest stock 4.4.2, will I still be able to get future OTA Updates without braking the root or custom recovery, well if root gets lost I can always root it again. Just asking, maybe I won't be able to get OTA Updates at all after rooting but I don't know so that's why I'm asking it here.
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The OTA will download but not install. You need stock recovery AND any system file that is updated by the OTA needs to be stock as well otherwise OTA install will fail.
Plenty of threads on XDA speak of this.
If you look at the OTA updater file you will see if uses MD5 (or similar) to check each system file it updates to make sure its as it was originally.
When you root it alters some system files.
Best thing is to install custom recovery and take a backup before rooted. Then root. When you get an OTA just restore backup and flash stock recovery. Then OTA will re-download. Let it install, then flash custom recovery and re-root.
Thanks, well I'll just stay unrooted and make the best out of it, the Moto G is just as amazing as Motorola developed it to be.
No stock recovery it's no need. I updated last ota with Philz recovery without problems.
denzel09 said:
No stock recovery it's no need. I updated last ota with Philz recovery without problems.
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Do you mean you downloaded OTA and flashed manually via recovery. You can do that I agree, but what you can't do is let OTA install naturally the way Motorola intended.
No. I had Philz recovery. System stock partition. Downloaded ota normally, reboot like ota update ask, phone reboots in philz recovery and this last flash ota automatically without any problem. There is not need to reflash stock recovery or flash ota update manually with custom rec, only need a non root stock system partition. I dont know if stock cwm or other rec like twrp work in same way but i doubt, always used only philz recovery.
You do not need stock recovery, I don't know who made this stupid rumour up. I use twrp and it flashes fine.
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Hey. I was wondering if you could help me update my phone to the latest ota update. I'm rooted and have xposed installed, and anytime I try to update the zip fails to install. I've also tried removing xposed, but it still didn't work.
Any suggestions?
Marco_Mena said:
Hey. I was wondering if you could help me update my phone to the latest ota update. I'm rooted and have xposed installed, and anytime I try to update the zip fails to install. I've also tried removing xposed, but it still didn't work.
Any suggestions?
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Use search, you can't use OTA on a rooted phone as rooting alters system files that the OTA expects to NOT be altered.
scott_doyland said:
Use search, you can't use OTA on a rooted phone as rooting alters system files that the OTA expects to NOT be altered.
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In another thread they told me that I can update if my phone is rooted and with stock recovery.
What you can do is flash a custom recovery and then after copy the outs file from /cache to your PC. On your PC modify the updater-script and repack the zip file and flash it on your phone through custom recovery.
You can even unpack the contents of OTA. zip and manually copy it in your /system and fix the permissions.
Hi guys. I've a unlocked bootloader and rooted 4.4.2 Moto G.
I'm searching how keep root when 4.4.4 will be released OTA.
I've read about SuperSU OTA survival (pro feature), it works with this phone? and how to use it?
I've custom recovery (CWM) and I've deleted some system apps I don't use (hangouts, google+, play magazine, etc),
I'm still able to perform OTA update?
Please help me. Thanks.
90paolo said:
Hi guys. I've a unlocked bootloader and rooted 4.4.2 Moto G.
I'm searching how keep root when 4.4.4 will be released OTA.
I've read about SuperSU OTA survival (pro feature), it works with this phone? and how to use it?
I've custom recovery (CWM) and I've deleted some system apps I don't use (hangouts, google+, play magazine, etc),
I'm still able to perform OTA update?
Please help me. Thanks.
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it needs to be completely stock ,nothing deleted or removed . recovery/ system partition should be stock. and after ota u can root your moto g again as you did before .
XT-107 said:
it needs to be completely stock ,nothing deleted or removed . recovery/ system partition should be stock. and after ota u can root your moto g again as you did before .
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Ok for stock recovery, but i've even to reinstall in /system the apps i deleted i.e. hangouts?
90paolo said:
Ok for stock recovery, but i've even to reinstall in /system the apps i deleted i.e. hangouts?
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You can't update at all if you don't have absolutely stock ROM, including the contents of /system and stock recovery.
you need to put it back again , also if you have modified any system apps they need to be replace by stock( original ) once too.
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You can't update at all if you don't have absolutely stock ROM, including the contents of /system and stock recovery.
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you need to put it back again , also if you have modified any system apps they need to be replace by stock( original ) once too.
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ok, understood. I've another question.
there is a way to block system in checking updates? i've read something about AdBlock and host file.
someone can help me?
Hi all,
I have a rooted Z3 with dual recovery and locked bootloader running firmware 23.1.A.0.690.
Since the OTA to firmware 23.1.A.1.28 is minor, I was wondering if it is possible to flash an update zip file while keeping root and modified recovery.
any idea ?
thanks
benjieb said:
Hi all,
I have a rooted Z3 with dual recovery and locked bootloader running firmware 23.1.A.0.690.
Since the OTA to firmware 23.1.A.1.28 is minor, I was wondering if it is possible to flash an update zip file while keeping root and modified bootloader.
any idea ?
thanks
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Modified bootloader? Do you mean unlocked? If so then you cannot do OTA, is says so explicitly on the Sony site about unlocked bootloaders. But you can make a backup in recovery, flash a stock FTF of that version (System only) then just flash back your custom kernel (Before booting the phone) and restore data from a backup
If you mean locked bootloader then you can OTA, if its a small update then the chances are it wont format system so you will keep root, but if its a large file the chances are it will format system then re-install it so you will lose root.
Just flash a pre-rooted version of the updated ROM in recovery
Sorry, i meant keeping root and modified recovery (not bootloader).
My bootloader is locked indeed and i am on stock kernel.
So, to your point, i should be safe upgrading minor OTAs?
If so can I anticipate sony's rollout of the OTA and flash the update zip? And where can it be found?
Thx
benjieb said:
Sorry, i meant keeping root and modified recovery (not bootloader).
My bootloader is locked indeed and i am on stock kernel.
So, to your point, i should be safe upgrading minor OTAs?
If so can I anticipate sony's rollout of the OTA and flash the update zip? And where can it be found?
Thx
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Maybe.... it all depends on whether or not the OTA formats system and reinstalls it. If it a minor update they may not do that so root and recovery (Which is in system for locked bootloaders) are not deleted.
Its a gamble...
to be 100% safe, you will need to get a prerooted flashable zip and flash it
Hmmm... Ok, but upgrading with a prerooted zip involves flashing a full rom not just the update right?
I am ok with that but would rather save the hassle.
Thanks for the advise
Hi,
Happy to report back that OTA process went smooth.
I am now running 23.1.A.1.28 and still have full root & dual recovery!
benjieb said:
Hi,
Happy to report back that OTA process went smooth.
I am not running 23.1.A.1.28 and still have full root & dual recovery!
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Benjieb,
Sorry friend but it was not clear to me... you updated via OTA and keep the root?
Yes that's right. I fixed the typo in my last post.
benjieb said:
Yes that's right. I fixed the typo in my last post.
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How do you do it? I mean,you were stock .690 berofe ota?you delete anything of stocks apps??because i test to do the ota update but at the end of processus it's says "verrification impossible" and i saw somewhere that's if we touch or delete stock apps we can't ota ....ans if possible,nobody van do a flashable ZIP with just ota update????
I was stock indeed, and you are right playing with system apps probably prevent OTAs.
That's why I deactivate system apps rather then delete them.
I guess you will have to do a full rom flash.
I'm on stock ROM rooted. Updated to. 28 via OTA just only. Root access still available!!
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No possible to create a flashable ZIP with just ota update???it will be wonderfull
I believe this is just minor update. So lucky for me haha
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I'm using a rooted HTC U11 with the latest TWRP and Magisk. Since yesterday I get a message that tells me to upgrade my HTC U11 to version 1.27.401.5. I can't install the downloaded ota so I need a complete rom. Where can I find that?
Maybe next door
Too much info error... So it's possible to flash an OTA over my rooted stock rom using TWRP?
Since the OTA is already downloaded to /data/data/com.htc.updater/files can I just copy it to the root folder and then flash it with TWRP?
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Too much info error... So it's possible to flash an OTA over my rooted stock rom using TWRP?
Since the OTA is already downloaded to /data/data/com.htc.updater/files can I just copy it to the root folder and then flash it with TWRP?
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No, TWRP cannot handle an OTA completely. You have to reflash stock recovery.
And even if you reflash stock recovery the OTA could fail to apply.
Have you modified your system partition after rooting? Any mods that install to system instead of data?
If you have modified the system partition the OTA won't apply. You have to reset to stock, i.e. by using an RUU
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I'm still on the stock rom with TWRP as recovery. Afaik I didn't use any mods that install to system instead of data.
I just want to install the current version 1.27.401.5. If that's not possible by OTA then a full rom would also be welcome.
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I'm still on the stock rom with TWRP as recovery. Afaik I didn't use any mods that install to system instead of data.
I just want to install the current version 1.27.401.5. If that's not possible by OTA then a full rom would also be welcome.
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Get @LlabTooFeR 's Maximus HD rom, you'll always get the latest updates on an optmized stock rom
simu_lacrum said:
I'm still on the stock rom with TWRP as recovery. Afaik I didn't use any mods that install to system instead of data.
I just want to install the current version 1.27.401.5. If that's not possible by OTA then a full rom would also be welcome.
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Then you might get the OTA applied by
reflashing stock recovery
deinstalling Magisk