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HTC Touch HD - Best Gmail experience?

Hello all. This is my first post on this forum. I have checked the rules first, but apologise in advance if I commit any "faux pas" with this thread...
Anyhow, I have just bought myself an HTC Touch HD, and having implemented a few tweaks already, I am quite satisfied so far. I should probably add that this is my first Pocket PC, having gone from only "normal" phones, my former being a Sony Ericsson K610i.
However, one thing that I have not yet managed to sort out, is how to get the best Gmail experience on my new device. On my old phone, I used Gmail's own mobile Java app. I was thinking about installing that on my HTC Touch HD as well, but then I came across a lot of forum and blog posts that claim the app to be virtually useless on a Windows Mobile device.
Of course, there is the obvious option of setting up an IMAP account on my phone, but two things make me hesitant on this:
1: I don't really like how Gmail behaves when you enable IMAP connections, i.e. sent e-mails are stored in a separate "IMAP Sent" folder, and such things. (I know this is nitpicking, but still... )
2: I think I read somewhere online that the e-mail client in TouchFlo 3d requires a wifi data connection to work. If that is the case, then it's really useless for me, since the whole idea is to make it possible for me to check/write e-mails when I'm on a train or bus. Can anyone confirm if this limitation really exists?
Finally, does anyone know if there is any work being done by Google and/or Microsoft to create a proper Gmail application for Windows Mobile?

Have you tried the mobile browser version of Gmail?

WizardN00b said:
Have you tried the mobile browser version of Gmail?
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If you mean the application that's described HERE, then yes. That's the app that I used on my old phone, that I have read will not work very well on a Windows Mobile device.

just goto gmail.com in opera. works fine for me

gmail's own app works quite well on my touch pro and also for the HD when i had one...just gotta see if you can live with the true vga version, which makes things small, or find one of the versions on here that support vga

I use mobipush.com to push my gmail account. You don't need wifi for email. Gmail (google) is supposed to be making it easier to access (but who knows)

Android / G1 options for calendar/task/contact/mail sync

Guys,
My other half needs a Treo replacement. She's a hardcore user of MS Outlook for email/calendar/contacts and tasks.
Eventually she might go for a Palm Pre, but in the interim as her Treo's died, I was thinking of trying her with a cheap ebay G1: if she likes Android then could upgrade to something else in time.
What I don't yet get is what the current situation with usable sync is.
Gmail/Gcal/Gcontacts are all fine (I use these with my iPhone and they're perfectly functional) but tasks seems to be the issue. What's Android like with sync to Google Tasks - i.e. I presume it'll sync phone to Gtasks on the web, but will it also pop up alerts when tasks are due, etc - i.e. run in background? If I could get all this to work in the Google Cloud that'd be great, as I could use Google Sync to get her laptop to sync up to the cloud to keep phone/web/laptop all in sync.
If I had to go to an Exchange Server account for her, then does this sync tasks as well as mail/cal/contacts, and run in background - i.e. pop up alerts when a task due and the task app isn't open?
Lastly, I'd like it to look pretty and I'm a big fan of firmware flashing (spent years on here in the past with WM devices!) so I'd be looking to a Superhero or Cyanogen ROM I guess. Heard talk that these may or may not include FULL MS exchange functionality.
Can anyone help me out here?
thanks
Ric

theoretically i would figure a senior mem would know to post in the correct section but since im nice ill ignore that.Anywho..theres a exchange app in hero that i use might be able to ouch the file to other roms though.the mail app does all of those i think.

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Ace42 said:
theoretically i would figure a senior mem would know to post in the correct section but since im nice ill ignore that.Anywho..theres a exchange app in hero that i use might be able to ouch the file to other roms though.the mail app does all of those i think.
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Sorry, I was thinking G1 and so looking at options that work with it, whether native or through a ROM upgrade.
Doesn't look like tasks and task reminders is an Android strong point natively. Hero exchange app sounds interesting, will google it. If anyone has a decent method of getting tasks and task reminders to work (ideally without MS Exchange, but I'll pay for an account if I need it!)
Ric

landwomble said:
Sorry, I was thinking G1 and so looking at options that work with it, whether native or through a ROM upgrade.
Doesn't look like tasks and task reminders is an Android strong point natively. Hero exchange app sounds interesting, will google it. If anyone has a decent method of getting tasks and task reminders to work (ideally without MS Exchange, but I'll pay for an account if I need it!)
Ric
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i know you can use the exchange app with gmail/aol/yahoo im not sure but do you want to use it for those?

I like CM7 and the other AOSP ROMs, but

...how come they all have fewer e-mail options (no scheduling, no self BCC) and are missing some good browser options (like turning off mobile view so you can see full sites), among other things?

Because AOSP is the core that everyone builds off of to make the fancy email clients... I hear K9 is pretty good.
Type "about:debug" in the address field then hit "enter", after that press the menu button and choose more --> settings. At the bottom of that long list, click on UAString. The default setting inside here is Android, if you choose Desktop the websites will show as on a desktop.

Four-Fifty-X said:
...how come they all have fewer e-mail options (no scheduling, no self BCC) and are missing some good browser options (like turning off mobile view so you can see full sites), among other things?
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The good thing about Android is you don't necessarily have to accept stock features. If there's something lacking in a stock app, chances are the Market has an alternative. There are 3rd party web browsers with many additional features (Dolphin HD, Firefox, Opera, SkyFire, etc.) as well as aftermarket email clients as Tx Redneck said. Enhanced Email is my preferred mail client (it works with Exchange 2010) otherwise I would have gone with K-9 Mail. I find the stock AOSP calendar to be lacking, so I use Business Calendar. The stock calculator sucks too, so I use one from the Market. I could go on and on with all the apps I use that are better than the stock ones. SMS Go, Power Amp, etc, etc. lol

+1 for K-9. It's been my go-to email client for quite some time now.

The thing that I believe we all come to love about android, is that you can pretty much replace any app with a better alternative that suits your needs. Long live Android.

Thank you. Makes senses. I did try k9, by the way, for POP mail. It is a nice app. I just wish I could us the same app for Exchange and POP.
Also, I forgot to mention...with CM7 and Phoenix and the others, I can't get DL speeds better than 4,000. This is even after flashing the latest AT&T radio.
With the stock ROM and with RCMix and LeeDroid (Sense GB ROMs), I can get mid-7000s.
Anyone know who to get better speeds with CM7?

I dont know about other aosp roms but cm7 has the ua string in the stock browser settings menu.

Four-Fifty-X said:
Thank you. Makes senses. I did try k9, by the way, for POP mail. It is a nice app. I just wish I could us the same app for Exchange and POP.
Also, I forgot to mention...with CM7 and Phoenix and the others, I can't get DL speeds better than 4,000. This is even after flashing the latest AT&T radio.
With the stock ROM and with RCMix and LeeDroid (Sense GB ROMs), I can get mid-7000s.
Anyone know who to get better speeds with CM7?
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Read my thread in development. The radio is only half the story with AOSP.
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What's available?

My phone is both unlocked and rooted. I couldn't stand the crap. I just froze it since all the apps I want install on the card anyway.
With this leak for Android (which Google is patching) is there any app or ROM that will make password entry required (no saved passwords - I don't save them on the computer, so it's no hardship)
I do have wifi calling, and I will use it over public wifi. I go to places where I get one bar at the most, and the motel has free wifi. I want my pet sitters and house watcher to be able to contact me at any time. My daughter moved to England, so I need Skype, and Skype only works on wifi on Android.
I don't use Picasa, sync the calendar, but I don't want my contacts to be bothered if that is what a hacker has in mind. There is no personal info saved on my phone. I also don't game. I don't watch movies.
Also, I would like a firewall. I have both Bing and Groupon banned in the firewall and in the hosts file. Bing is getting too far ahead of itself. It's allied with Yahoo and I do have a Yahoo mail account.
I use the phone as a PDA reference guide, and the processor speed and screen is why I bought it. I have frozen all the social apps and I might delete them. The phone has been working super since it's been rooted and I enjoy it.
Thanks,
Zuben

I am not sure what you are exactly asking?
You mention password entry? If you are talking about accessing the phone, there is the lockscreen that you can either password enable or choose a pattern to lock the device.
You also mentioned about a firewall? There is webroot security which you can manage things. But, you said that you blocked a few things already? I dont understand.

fknfocused said:
I am not sure what you are exactly asking?
You mention password entry? If you are talking about accessing the phone, there is the lockscreen that you can either password enable or choose a pattern to lock the device.
You also mentioned about a firewall? There is webroot security which you can manage things. But, you said that you blocked a few things already? I dont understand.
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I want the apps to ask for a password - not the phone. If I use app market I want to log in every time - do not save the password.
Google mail and Tmobile I could stop from automatic sync. I don't want them syncing automatically unless it's a needed function.
Example: I got a list of updates today, and I can't block the ones I don't want.
There's one in the list for Youtube and Youtube is frozen. So is Facebook. So I didn't allow the updates.
So does anyone have a custom ROM or an app that does this? And where do you find info on webroot security?

Unfortunately the SGS4G is still in its early stages of development, there are a couple good roms out there but they are still stock and not custom, however they do improve the performance of the phone. As for what your asking for, no there are no roms that do this yet

dsexton702 said:
Unfortunately the SGS4G is still in its early stages of development, there are a couple good roms out there but they are still stock and not custom, however they do improve the performance of the phone. As for what your asking for, no there are no roms that do this yet
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Thanks, do you think there will be one?
How far can developers go to get rid of stuff?
I saw this:
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2011-05-09-emergency-alerts_n.htm
and I don't want it. Especially presidential alerts. I would guess that the final version isn't out yet, but I'm curious. I think it would eventually lead to abuse.
I buy my phones for my own reasons and use them in my own way, so I'm not your typical user. I see the phone as a PDA, only voice/text is communication.
The rest is all my required information at my fingertips, and the new screens and processors on the phones are great.

Link problems

Hello all. So on my One X if someone sends me a link via text or email to certain sites then I have issues with opening them. My main problem is with youtube and ebay. If someone sends me a youtube link it will open in the browser rather then the app. If someone sends me an ebay link then it sends me to the app store to install the ebay app, even though I have the app installed already.
If I were to install a different rom, lets say CM10 for example, would I still have this problem? I would greatly appreciate any assistance.

Its that way by design. Apple sued HTC over the patented feature to launch apps after website addresses, phone numbers, etc. are tapped. So HTC had to make it work a different way, which makes it counter-intuitive.
Flashing CM10, as well as many other custom ROMs should fix the issue. The offending process is called "HTCLinkify". So any ROM that states that this is disabled will fix the issue.

redpoint73 said:
Its that way by design. Apple sued HTC over the patented feature to launch apps after website addresses, phone numbers, etc. are tapped. So HTC had to make it work a different way, which makes it counter-intuitive.
Flashing CM10, as well as many other custom ROMs should fix the issue. The offending process is called "HTCLinkify". So any ROM that states that this is disabled will fix the issue.
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Thanks for the information. Cant believe Apple sued over that. Wait, yes I can. So stupid.

We are talking about the company that just patented the rounded rectangle.