Root Without BL unlock - ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello guys
im looking to root my OPO, but i dont want to unlock the Bootloader or install a custom recovery, just want a method to root so i can install Xposed on the stock CM11S rom, is this actually possible?

Why not just unlock the bootloader? Your warranty isn't affected by it. You lose nothing by unlocking it, and you gain nothing by leaving it locked.
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Jaocagomez said:
Hello guys
im looking to root my OPO, but i dont want to unlock the Bootloader or install a custom recovery, just want a method to root so i can install Xposed on the stock CM11S rom, is this actually possible?
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timmaaa said:
Why not just unlock the bootloader? Your warranty isn't affected by it. You lose nothing by unlocking it, and you gain nothing by leaving it locked.
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Like @timmaaa mentioned, you lose nothing when you unlock bootloader. Not only that, it is the recommended and futureproof approach to do so. Unlocking the bootloader wipes your phone completly clean. Suppose somewhere down the road you want to try different ROMs, you'd realize you cannot do so without losing your data. So you'r much better off unlocaking your bootlaoder right now.
But to answer your question, no. It is not possible at a simpler level. Unlocking the bootlaoder give you access to all the partitions on the phone. What you need access to specifically is the recovery partition so you could flash a custom recovery and install the SU binaries onto your system. through that recovery.

What others have said, unlock the bootloader there's no problem with leaving it unlocked.
You're given the key to unlock the bootloader using a command. Use it and make your life simple. It's like saying you have the key to your house but you want to get inside the house without unlocking the door. Just use the key and make it simple.
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Jaocagomez said:
Hello guys
im looking to root my OPO, but i dont want to unlock the Bootloader or install a custom recovery, just want a method to root so i can install Xposed on the stock CM11S rom, is this actually possible?
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Perhaps you felt like I did, worried that you are ruining your phone or your ota ability.
Unlocking the Bootloader is painless aside from having to reinstall all your programs. Everyone says it wipes the os, but what they don't tell you is that you don't have to dig around looking for the proper version to reinstall. You just type a code, and the phone reboots fresh like a factory reset, ready to go. And installing the custom recovery is easy, and it works perfectly with ota updates.
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[Q] Signed ROM possible?

Can I have locked boot loader and be able to flash a custom ROM? It would need to be signed by who, Google, LG?
MAXGEN said:
Can I have locked boot loader and be able to flash a custom ROM? It would need to be signed by who, Google, LG?
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Sure just send it to Google and haven them rebuild and sign it as a factory image (just kidding off course). No, that`s off course not possible.
-Edit- Read the first 4-5 threads in this section before you do anything
MAXGEN said:
Can I have locked boot loader and be able to flash a custom ROM? It would need to be signed by who, Google, LG?
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With a locked bootloader, you cannot flash anything using fastboot.
However, if you unlocked bootloader, installed custom recovery, then relocked bootloader (pointless), you can still install stuff from recovery.
But fastboot cannot be used to flash anything (even stock Google factory image).
You sound like you come from a HTC (or similar) device where you would need to relock bootloader to flash a stock RUU, a Nexus is totally different than a HTC device. :good:
Edit: Be warned that unlocking the bootloader using "fastboot oem unlock" wipes EVERYTHING except the OS on the phone.
Thanks for the quick response.
How do ROM updates (ex. 4.0 to 4.1 ) get pushed from either the manufacturer like LG or Samsung or Google for there devices then? You have to unlock you phone to update? Typically on Samsung I downloaded through TouchWiz and then it restarted on its own and installed on its own without user unlocking anything.
So how do updates then get pushed? They must be signed and get around the lock boot loader some how? I guess the signed ROM is able to unlock it to install is that purpose then?
MAXGEN said:
Thanks for the quick response.
How do ROM updates (ex. 4.0 to 4.1 ) get pushed from either the manufacturer like LG or Samsung or Google for there devices then? You have to unlock you phone to update? Typically on Samsung I downloaded through TouchWiz and then it restarted on its own and installed on its own without user unlocking anything.
So how do updates then get pushed? They must be signed and get around the lock boot loader some how? I guess the signed ROM is able to unlock it to install is that purpose then?
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For Google updates there is no need to be unlocked, you talked about flashing a custom rom. Updates get downloaded and installed automaticaly in fastboot.
MAXGEN said:
So how do updates then get pushed? They must be signed and get around the lock boot loader some how? I guess the signed ROM is able to unlock it to install is that purpose then?
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Flashing /system has nothing to do with the bootloader. OTA updates flash to /system via stock recovery.
A locked bootloader prevents you fastboot flashing. You could unlock the bootloader, fastboot flash a custom recovery then lock the bootloader again. You would still be able to flash /system with custom roms. Bootloader doesn't prevent flashing. It just prevents fastboot flashing
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rootSU said:
Flashing /system has nothing to do with the bootloader. OTA updates flash to /system via stock recovery.
A locked bootloader prevents you fastboot flashing. You could unlock the bootloader, fastboot flash a custom recovery then lock the bootloader again. You would still be able to flash /system with custom roms. Bootloader doesn't prevent flashing. It just prevents fastboot flashing
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What stops custom roms being flash through stock recovery?
What stops custom ROM be a OTA so it can be flash stock recovery?
MAXGEN said:
What stops custom roms being flash through stock recovery?
What stops custom ROM be a OTA so it can be flash stock recovery?
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simms22 said:
googles signature
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BK in the house! Anyways.
Just to clear things up for me.
If I keep my stock recovery and keep boot loader lock, then I can't flash my ROM unless I have Google keys. Okay I got that but mentioned earlier that you can flash to the /system, OTA (Over the Air) package, does that have to be signed for that? What is the mechanism to flash OTA, stock recovery or something else?
Ultimately, something like CM is doing, if I make a ROM, I could make my own recovery and with my own keys and call it verified and safe and push OTA packages for updates??
Everything official is signed. Nothing unofficial can be signed. Nothing unsigned can be flashed without either a custom recovery or unlocked bootloader.
Hope this clears everything up for you.
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Could you replace the
/system/etc/security/otacerts.zip
or
/META-INF/com/android/otacert file
with your own??
Lets cut to the chase. What is your ultimate aim here?
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rootSU said:
Lets cut to the chase. What is your ultimate aim here?
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LOL
Just trying to get an direction so I continue to do further research. Mostly my aim is more in depth understanding.
I want to build my own ROM and I'm starting that journey. Definitely a newbie but not a newbie to technology and programing and by no means an expert. Just a senior college student that with enough information to be "dangerous".
I would like to have ROM that doesn't need to have unlock boot loader or have custom recovery? Is that possible? i feel a lot ppl I meet don't like to use Custom ROMs b/c of these hurdles. I guess I would have to have root access to change out the CERTS either way.
You can't even flash a full official rom without unlocking the bootloader. It isn't possible on this device
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MAXGEN said:
LOL
Just trying to get an direction so I continue to do further research. Mostly my aim is more in depth understanding.
I want to build my own ROM and I'm starting that journey. Definitely a newbie but not a newbie to technology and programing and by no means an expert. Just a senior college student that with enough information to be "dangerous".
I would like to have ROM that doesn't need to have unlock boot loader or have custom recovery? Is that possible? i feel a lot ppl I meet don't like to use Custom ROMs b/c of these hurdles. I guess I would have to have root access to change out the CERTS either way.
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I think if it was possible, it would have been done already. But its not that big of a hurdle to unlock and root. Its actually a lot more easier than it seems. It usually takes about 5 minutes to do after getting all the necessary files. All you need is a general understanding and the ability to follow directions well.
You can't even flash a full official rom without unlocking the bootloader. It isn't possible on this device
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No i went right to a custom, unlock, root, custom Recovery, Custom Rom
jsgraphicart said:
I think if it was possible, it would have been done already. But its not that big of a hurdle to unlock and root. Its actually a lot more easier than it seems. It usually takes about 5 minutes to do after getting all the necessary files. All you need is a general understanding and the ability to follow directions well.
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On Samsung pushed OTA and reboot and install...DONE.
So it is possible!
It isn't as easy as you think because more people would have it. I walk into any CS class less then 10% are rooted or Custom. Most of them probably are on iphones but that's different. My point is that you would think some what intelligent geeks would take the time to do so but they don't. IMO there are still hurdles and CM are trying to breach these inconveniences except Google doesn't like it.
MAXGEN said:
No i went right to a custom, unlock, root, custom Recovery, Custom Rom
On Samsung pushed OTA and reboot and install...DONE.
So it is possible!
It isn't as easy as you think because more people would have it. I walk into any CS class less then 10% are rooted or Custom. Most of them probably are on iphones but that's different. My point is that you would think some what intelligent geeks would take the time to do so but they don't. IMO there are still hurdles and CM are trying to breach these inconveniences except Google doesn't like it.
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on samsung, samsung signs the roms, not google. so of course its possible for them.
simms22 said:
on samsung, samsung signs the roms, not google. so of course its possible for them.
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So essentially you just need to replace the certs to push your own OTAs through your device. Which at some point you would need access to those CERTs so you would need root access.
MAXGEN said:
No i went right to a custom, unlock, root, custom Recovery, Custom Rom
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I wasn't asking a question. I was telling you it is not even possible to flash official nexus 5 full rom from Google without unlocking the bootloader.
MAXGEN said:
On Samsung pushed OTA and reboot and install...DONE.
So it is possible!
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As mentioned, because they signed the update and it matched what their rom and their recovery expected.
You cannot simply "guess" a signature. You cannot reverse engineer a signature. All you can do is remove whatever is validating the signature and this cannot be done without unlocking the bootloader
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MAXGEN said:
On Samsung pushed OTA and reboot and install...DONE.
So it is possible!
It isn't as easy as you think because more people would have it. I walk into any CS class less then 10% are rooted or Custom. Most of them probably are on iphones but that's different. My point is that you would think some what intelligent geeks would take the time to do so but they don't. IMO there are still hurdles and CM are trying to breach these inconveniences except Google doesn't like it.
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Are you talking about an OTA from Samsung or a custom ROM OTA without unlocking the phone. If its from Samsung then yeah, they have all the stuff to put into the OTA to bypass the locked bootloader. But anything like that probably has to come from the manufacturer because they are the only ones who have the "keys". I have never owned a Samsung device (other than the Galaxy Nexus but that was more Google). So if I'm just not understanding that, then I apologize. I think around XDA, everyone here just finds it easier to unlock, root and be on their way. But if you find a workaround, I'm sure people would be interested.

BootUnlocker for Nexus Devices worth it?

Hi guys, I found this program "I'm root" my question is, I'd like to close the boot-loader jut for security reasons, but now I've set up everything as I wanted so I don't want to delete everything again.
Can I use this program it seem to be really good.
"BootUnlocker for Nexus Devices"
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.segv11.bootunlocker
Waiting for answers.
Yes. I use this to lock and unlock my bootloader once rooted. It doesn't wipe anything.
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rootSU said:
Yes. I use this to lock and unlock my bootloader once rooted. It doesn't wipe anything.
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WOW perfect then I'll do it. Like this if I lose my phone no one will be able to steal anything. (Steal I say xD, they can't do that much. but you know what I mean.)
If you have a custom recovery they can. So make sure you have a stock recovery
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rootSU said:
Yes. I use this to lock and unlock my bootloader once rooted. It doesn't wipe anything.
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Can I lock the bootloader using this app with a custom recovery installed so that when I need to install updates to the rom or flash something I wouldn't need to flash/boot Philz again after unlocking?
Or do I need to flash the stock recovery before locking with this app??
vin4yak said:
Can I lock the bootloader using this app with a custom recovery installed so that when I need to install updates to the rom or flash something I wouldn't need to flash/boot Philz again after unlocking?
Or do I need to flash the stock recovery before locking with this app??
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As long as you're rooted it'll work with a custom recovery or stock. Edit, just be careful if you do a lot of messing around on your phone. You may be locked when you wish you weren't
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jd1639 said:
As long as you're rooted it'll work with a custom recovery or stock. Edit, just be careful if you do a lot of messing around on your phone. You may be locked when you wish you weren't
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Yes, I get that.. If I end up in a bootloop I would need to use fastboot which will erase all my data.. That's what you're warning me about, right?
To tell you the truth, I'm actually worried about this eMMC failure thing as I have a 1 year LG warranty (not google's). I have seen a few threads where they weren't able to relock their bootloaders before sending it in as the eMMC's write function was screwed up. If I send my device in with a unlocked bootloader, warranty will go down the drain for sure. LG is very strict regarding this matter.
May be I'm thinking too much but my friend had faced similar issues with his HTC One and he had to shell out half the price of the phone to get the mobo replaced even though he had warranty
vin4yak said:
Yes, I get that.. If I end up in a bootloop I would need to use fastboot which will erase all my data.. That's what you're warning me about, right?
To tell you the truth, I'm actually worried about this eMMC failure thing as I have a 1 year LG warranty (not google's). I have seen a few threads where they weren't able to relock their bootloaders before sending it in as the eMMC's write function was screwed up. If I send my device in with a unlocked bootloader, warranty will go down the drain for sure. LG is very strict regarding this matter.
May be I'm thinking too much but my friend had faced similar issues with his HTC One and he had to shell out half the price of the phone to get the mobo replaced even though he had warranty
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I'm guessing that if your emmc failed you wouldn't be able to lock using this app. Boot it is an easy way to keep it locked until you need to unlock. It is a good app and it's been on my phone for months. But I usually keep it unlocked
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rootSU said:
If you have a custom recovery they can. So make sure you have a stock recovery
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So if I have a custom recovery I can!!!! and then you said make sure you have a stock recovery...
What I have to have, stock or custom?
When you say custom you mean, -hammerhead or clockwork- right?
Thanks.
you can have a custom recovery and use that app to lock and unlock your bootloader, just as you can have a custom recovery and lock/unlock your bootloader with the fastboot command.. fastboot oem lock(fastboot oem unlock).
jd1639 said:
I'm guessing that if your emmc failed you wouldn't be able to lock using this app. Boot it is an easy way to keep it locked until you need to unlock. It is a good app and it's been on my phone for months. But I usually keep it unlocked
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That's why I was thinking to after flashing what I want to, I would lock the bootloader with the app so suppose one fine day my eMMC gets fried, I wouldn't be in trouble as it will be locked.
If I want to flash anything, unlock with the app, flash via recovery, reboot and then lock the bootloader again! Does sound good, right??
LOL, now I'm surely thinking too much
ivan333 said:
So if I have a custom recovery I can!!!! and then you said make sure you have a stock recovery...
What I have to have, stock or custom?
When you say custom you mean, -hammerhead or clockwork- right?
Thanks.
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Rootsu was referring to the ability to hack onto your phone not the bootunlocker app. Bootunlocker will work if you're rooted and it doesn't matter if you have stock or a custom recovery
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vin4yak said:
That's why I was thinking to after flashing what I want to, I would lock the bootloader with the app so suppose one fine day my eMMC gets fried, I wouldn't be in trouble as it will be locked.
If I want to flash anything, unlock with the app, flash via recovery, reboot and then lock the bootloader again! Does sound good, right??
LOL, now I'm sure thinking too much
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then you dont need the app. after you unlock your bootloader and root it, just boot into your bootloader after and lock it.
simms22 said:
then you dont need the app. after you unlock your bootloader and root it, just boot into your bootloader after and lock it.
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But then, when I need to flash a nightly or any mod, I would need to unlock the bootloader via fastboot to access the custom recovery which will wipe everyhting, right? If I have the app, I can simply unlock it without wiping.
Or should I just use fastboot boot on a locked bootloader to flash any mod/nightly??
vin4yak said:
That's why I was thinking to after flashing what I want to, I would lock the bootloader with the app so suppose one fine day my eMMC gets fried, I wouldn't be in trouble as it will be locked.
If I want to flash anything, unlock with the app, flash via recovery, reboot and then lock the bootloader again! Does sound good, right??
LOL, now I'm surely thinking too much
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Yep, that would work
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simms22 said:
then you dont need the app. after you unlock your bootloader and root it, just boot into your bootloader after and lock it.
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But that will swap (WIPE sorry) all your phone... that's what I don't want. (Sorry maybe I misunderstood something but later I'll read it again and carefully.)
vin4yak said:
But then, when I need to flash a nightly or any mod, I would need to unlock the bootloader via fastboot to access the custom recovery which will wipe everyhting, right? If I have the app, I can simply unlock it without wiping.
Or should I just use fastboot boot on a locked bootloader to flash any mod/nightly??
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no, wont wipe everything. just that first time.
simms22 said:
no, wont wipe everything. just that first time.
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Are you sure? If you oem lock and then oem unlock I think it wipes it each time.
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simms22 said:
no, wont wipe everything. just that first time.
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Wooaaahh?! Thanks for the clarification... Just curious though, why does it not wipe everything when I unlock it the 2nd time? is it because the tamper flag is set to "true"? How does the bootloader determine that it's being unlocked the second time?
Thanks a lot!
vin4yak said:
Wooaaahh?! Thanks for the clarification... Just curious though, why does it not wipe everything when I unlock it the 2nd time? is it because the tamper flag is set to "true"? How does the bootloader determine that it's being unlocked the second time?
Thanks a lot!
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As an fyi, I locked with bootunlocker once and then messed up by device where I had to use fastboot commands. It does wipe if you have to fastboot unlock the device again
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[Q] Trying to root on 33R to no avail

Hello,
trying to get root by unlocking the bootloader first (using preload recovery TWRP lastest + tamper bit mod) but I keep getting this error:
booting...
FAILED (remote: Device not unlocked cannot boot)
finished. total time: 0.406s
So I can't preload the custom recovery, is there any way of rooting on this oneplus firmware without wiping the whole device?
Any help would be much appreciated..
Edit: This isn't a reroot, this is first time root/unlock
Did you type fastboot oem unlock?
Your bootloader is locked and needs to be unlocked.
If fastboot oem unlock does not unlock it, then you need to fastboot boot into recovery.
Flash tamper, unlock, and then afterwords, adb sideload SuperSU.
zephiK said:
Did you type fastboot oem unlock?
Your bootloader is locked and needs to be unlocked.
If fastboot oem unlock does not unlock it, then you need to fastboot boot into recovery.
Flash tamper, unlock, and then afterwords, adb sideload SuperSU.
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Umm thanks, I could have, but I really don't want to wipe everything, I got everything set up how I want with lots of data..I was looking for a way *without* wiping everything.. fastboot oem unlock will be my last resort tbh.
I thought with such a developer friendly phone there might be a way to overcome this problem
therightperson_630 said:
Umm thanks, I could have, but I really don't want to wipe everything, I got everything set up how I want with lots of data..I was looking for a way *without* wiping everything.. fastboot oem unlock will be my last resort tbh.
I thought with such a developer friendly phone there might be a way to overcome this problem
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Yeah, I'm in the same boat as you. Unfortunately after all my reading, it seems impossible as CM did it as a preventative measure to secure your data.
I'm going to do a back up of everything and then a reflash to 25R where battery life was best, then unlock and reboot.
therightperson_630 said:
Umm thanks, I could have, but I really don't want to wipe everything, I got everything set up how I want with lots of data..I was looking for a way *without* wiping everything.. fastboot oem unlock will be my last resort tbh.
I thought with such a developer friendly phone there might be a way to overcome this problem
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Well thats the whole point, the OnePlus One is a very developer friendly phone indeed. Thats why you get the "keys" to unlock the phone with a simple command instead of using a exploit to flash a custom recovery.
On 25R bootloader, it was possible but as of now there isn't a way to root without unlocking the bootloader. You can read the thread here, http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/help/root-unlocking-bootloader-t2820628
This is why when people just now get a phone that has the ability to fastboot oem unlock, I suggest them to unlock their bootloaders as the first thing to do.
Backup all of your data and move forward. Best of luck.
therightperson_630 said:
Umm thanks, I could have, but I really don't want to wipe everything, I got everything set up how I want with lots of data..I was looking for a way *without* wiping everything.. fastboot oem unlock will be my last resort tbh.
I thought with such a developer friendly phone there might be a way to overcome this problem
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if you truly want to restore everything there are apps that will zip up all your data and you can flash in one session after wiping your phone. If you are reloading the exact same software it should not be an issue. check google and playstore for such apps like app2zip
app2zip requires root, which I can't get if I've not unlocked the bootloader, which means wiping everything...app2zip won't help here but thanks for the suggestion
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app2zip requires root, which I can't get if I've not unlocked the bootloader, which means wiping everything...app2zip won't help here but thanks for the suggestion
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oh yea my bad I forgot about the root part. I usually root right away so my bad..
Sorry, but the only way is to unlock the bootloader. You could use Helium backup, also some Apps themselves have great backup functionality.
Yep. Gotta unlock it. No idea why people don't just do that in the first place.
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Yep. Gotta unlock it. No idea why people don't just do that in the first place.
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Because most people set up their phone before getting stuck into rooting and the like. Just as I did. I think locking the bootloader is good in theory, but the average user wouldn't know how to brick their phone even if the bootloader was already unlocked, so why do it?
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Because most people set up their phone before getting stuck into rooting and the like. Just as I did. I think locking the bootloader is good in theory, but the average user wouldn't know how to brick their phone even if the bootloader was already unlocked, so why do it?
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The difference between having a locked and unlocked bootloader is simply flashing custom recoveries or radios/etc. Theres no harm in doing leaving your bootloader unlocked.
The bootloader has to be locked out of the box, I believe its one of the criterias needed to be fulfilled in order to be approved for Google Apps (Play Store,etc). Also, it doesn't make sense to have a bootloader unlocked for average users.
Just unlock the bootloader and learn from your lesson.... either that or stick with stock ROM without root. Yeah it'll set you back because you'll have to redo your phone apps/settings but on the bright side you won't have to do it again because ur bootloader is already unlocked.
You need your bootloader unlocked to obtain root. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2788632 on instructions on how to do so if you're unfamiliar. After once its unlocked, fastboot flash a custom recovery and flash supersu.
Trust me I'm familiar...had none of this trouble on the G1. Out of 5 android devices this is the second time I've had to unlock the bootloader...and the average user doesn't even know what a bootloader is, so not sure they'd be able to mess about with the radios.
therightperson_630 said:
Trust me I'm familiar...had none of this trouble on the G1. Out of 5 android devices this is the second time I've had to unlock the bootloader...and the average user doesn't even know what a bootloader is, so not sure they'd be able to mess about with the radios.
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Thats because the G1 had a locked bootloader and the only way to flash a custom recovery was to gain a exploit to push a custom recovery. For the OnePlus/Nexus/HTC, we don't need a exploit because we have the ability to unlock our bootloaders. Think of it as Apple's iOS, in order to gain jailbreak you need a exploit to jailbreak your phone which can take a long time for it to happen. Whereas, on Nexus/OnePlus/HTC, we can simply just obtain access to do changes to the phone without having to wait for a exploit.
You keep mentioning average user but a average user wouldn't be attempting to obtain root access for their phone. The average user would just be using his/her phone as a phone and not tinkering with the deeper innings of the Operating System and if the average user wants to tinker with the deeper innings then they should really do their research and learn. There are a lot of good guides on XDA.
Couldn't agree more. There is no need for any exploit with this phone because you've been handed the keys.
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therightperson_630 said:
Hello,
trying to get root by unlocking the bootloader first (using preload recovery TWRP lastest + tamper bit mod) but I keep getting this error:
booting...
FAILED (remote: Device not unlocked cannot boot)
finished. total time: 0.406s
So I can't preload the custom recovery, is there any way of rooting on this oneplus firmware without wiping the whole device?
Any help would be much appreciated..
Edit: This isn't a reroot, this is first time root/unlock
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have you considered the exploit devised in the following thread?:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/development/mod-reset-unlock-tamper-bit-t2820912
ondoy1943 said:
have you considered the exploit devised in the following thread?:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/development/mod-reset-unlock-tamper-bit-t2820912
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That doesn't allow you to root while having a unlocked bootloader. It just changes the bits on whether or not your device has been tampered.
But then again,
This mod will allow you to unlock the bootloader without wiping the userdata as oppose to fastboot oem unlock command.
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A little off topic but I unlock my boot loader and root as soon as I get the phone so I don't have to loose anything.
zephiK said:
That doesn't allow you to root while having a unlocked bootloader. It just changes the bits on whether or not your device has been tampered.
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that's what you think, but in my case i was able to unlock the bootloader using the mod, hence rooting was a matter of course. the casual "fastboot oem unlock" command was not effective with my device. so.....
edit: then again, i unlocked the bootloader and rooted my phone while it was still at 30O firmware. i have no idea if the 33R firmware's bootloader is different from that of the 30O or not, that will render the mod ineffective.
It's fine, problem solved, went through the gruelling task of trying to back everything up without root = 40gb of stuff..
Already tried the tamper bit mod...it was stated in the first post (tamper bit mod) and the command screenshot was one of the steps when trying to boot the recovery, it still wouldn't boot because the bootloader wasn't unlocked..so, useless in my case.
Still lost some stuff but I got most of it back. I didn't have this problem on my xperia SP when unlocking the bootloader..if I remember correctly you could root, get recovery and custom rom all without unlocking bootloader. Unlocking the bootloader didn't erase the internal sd either..sure it might have been through an exploit rather than the proper way, but tbh I think I'd rather have that.
I'm not liking this "you've been given the keys" analogy...It's more like you've already settled into your new house and you're given the keys to unlock the front door when you're already inside...it's hassle more than anything.

[Q] Root without Wipe

Hello together,
I read recently a article about a Nexus, which may be rooted without wipe (Source: I cannot attach a link because it is the first post, so: "Root without Wiping - Android Forums at AndroidCentral" in google), so I wondered, if it is possible to do the same on the OPO.
Thanks for your replies.
Regards,
elchico
oh ,flash supersu in recovery?don't tell me your phone is locked~~
loridoo said:
oh ,flash supersu in recovery?don't tell me your phone is locked~~
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it is locked
I unlocked it when I bought it but then there occured some problems and as a result I flashed the stock kernel/ rom. But today I wanted to install an anti-theft-protection and for that I need the root
Why did you relock the bootloader when you went back to stock? You didn't need to do that. Now you're stuck, you can't get root without unlocking the bootloader, and you can't unlock the bootloader without it wiping your phone.
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timmaaa said:
Why did you relock the bootloader when you went back to stock? You didn't need to do that. Now you're stuck, you can't get root without unlocking the bootloader, and you can't unlock the bootloader without it wiping your phone.
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hmm ok uncool it was a bat file from oneplus personally ...
okay so: thank you all

Return to Android 11 stock

I currently have android 11 which about 2 years ago I unlocked, installed TWRP and rooted. I later allowed the phone to update but didn't realize I should have re-flashed TWRP and root before I rebooted the phone so I lost the use of TWRP and root. Now I want to reflash android 11 but wont unlock and root the phone again but want TWRP. How do I go about doing this (I am not strong with what I need to do and have usually caused a problem before by using the wrong enchilada file, the last one that worked was twrp-3.3.1-18-enchilada-Q-mauronofrio I think) and which files should I use?
you can't flash anything on a locked phone so at the very least you can have it unlocked + twrp and no root if you wish
otherwise no twrp
croperas said:
you can't flash anything on a locked phone so at the very least you can have it unlocked + twrp and no root if you wish
otherwise no twrp
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That's what I want to do, sorry for any misunderstanding, I want to lock the phone so I can use financial apps and also have TWRP. What process and enchilada shall I use? I already downloaded OnePlus6TOxygen_34.J.62.
Westindieman said:
That's what I want to do, sorry for any misunderstanding, I want to lock the phone so I can use financial apps and also have TWRP. What process and enchilada shall I use? I already downloaded OnePlus6TOxygen_34.J.62.
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That's what i was saying, this is not possible, locking or unlocking requires full wipe which nullifies any custom things you do.
You can have a phone that's not rooted which should be good enough for most checks but if it checks the bootloader there's nothing you can do about it besides not use it or use stock
croperas said:
That's what i was saying, this is not possible, locking or unlocking requires full wipe which nullifies any custom things you do.
You can have a phone that's not rooted which should be good enough for most checks but if it checks the bootloader there's nothing you can do about it besides not use it or use stock
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I understand now thanks for your patience. What process should I follow then to return from here to stock and locked considering I don't have TWRP?
Westindieman said:
I understand now thanks for your patience. What process should I follow then to return from here to stock and locked considering I don't have TWRP?
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Backup what you need
Relock the bootloader
Flash stock rom using fastboot
I have relocked and am now trying to work out how to flash the new rom
All sorted now, didn't need to flash a new ROM
Awesome, Enjoy the phone

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