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Hi Guys, as subject really! Is it possible to get the phone in a "Google" state to pull down updates, obviously meaning the impending ICS one!
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I'm implying that you're on a custom ROM at the moment. You'll have to flash one of the stock ROM images, then you can get OTA's again.
It doesn't matter if you're rooted or have an unlocked bootloader.
Greetz
frutelaken said:
I'm implying that you're on a custom ROM at the moment. You'll have to flash one of the stock ROM images, then you can get OTA's again.
It doesn't matter if you're rooted or have an unlocked bootloader.
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Hey mate, thankyou for helping. I've not actually received it yet, bought one off ebay and I am just pre-empting - If you flash stock does the root and unlocked bootloader become standard again??
(I'm upgrading from an old Galaxy 3, so am reasonably familiar with flashing, but want a simple life now and am going stock Google )
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Nope, flashing a stock image will not affect your bootloader being unlocked. You'll have to run the "fastboot oem lock" command to lock the bootloader again. Check one of the turorials here
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//edit: Actually, I'm suddenly not sure of this. Sunday evenings' got me confused. Please wait for someone else to verify.
Thankyou I'll have a look round
I have been flashing several ROMs using ROM Manager and the bootloader wasn't affected by this. The stock OTAs kept unrooting the phone though.
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I have been flashing several ROMs using ROM Manager and the bootloader wasn't affected by this. The stock OTAs kept unrooting the phone though.
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That's normal, the OTA's reset the permissions on key folders, effectively SU looses it's execute permissions, removing root. What i do now is download the OTA to the SD card, apply it, re-apply the SU.zip to keep root, modify the restore-recovery script so i can keep CWM, then reboot.
I'm not sure how it's going to go with ICS, but we shall see.
What's up everybody. I've searched through the questions forum and can't seem to find a thread to help me, so...
I wanted to flash dhacker's 4.4 ROM. So first I want to make a backup of my phone pending something goes horribly wrong. I'm having issues booting into recovery. When I click on "recovery", the phone seems to restart like it's going into recovery, then I get a sleeping android bot with his belly open and a red triangle with an exclamation point in it on my screen, forcing me to reboot the phone. Any ideas?
- Is it that I don't have an updated version of CWM or TWRP? Anyone have links to working versions?
- Is it that I have the "lite" versions of said apps above and need to donate to open the recovery features?
- Is it something else and I'm just not smart enough to think of what it could be?
Thanks for the help!
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What's up everybody. I've searched through the questions forum and can't seem to find a thread to help me, so...
I wanted to flash dhacker's 4.4 ROM. So first I want to make a backup of my phone pending something goes horribly wrong. I'm having issues booting into recovery. When I click on "recovery", the phone seems to restart like it's going into recovery, then I get a sleeping android bot with his belly open and a red triangle with an exclamation point in it on my screen, forcing me to reboot the phone. Any ideas?
- Is it that I don't have an updated version of CWM or TWRP? Anyone have links to working versions?
- Is it that I have the "lite" versions of said apps above and need to donate to open the recovery features?
- Is it something else and I'm just not smart enough to think of what it could be?
Thanks for the help!
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The dead robot is your stock recovery screen. You need to hold vol+ and tap pwr at the same time to get into your stock recovery.
When you flash a recovery.img, you need to immediately boot back into the recovery to get the updater script to finish. If you don't boot straight into recovery after flashing, the stock recovery will override the aftermarket recovery. Also, do you have an unlocked bootloader?
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The dead robot is your stock recovery screen. You need to hold vol+ and tap pwr at the same time to get into your stock recovery.
When you flash a recovery.img, you need to immediately boot back into the recovery to get the updater script to finish. If you don't boot straight into recovery after flashing, the stock recovery will override the aftermarket recovery. Also, do you have an unlocked bootloader?
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Thanks, I'll give it a try.
I did at one point have an unlocked bootloader, but I wasn't sure whether the latest OTA updates only blocked the ability to unlock (if someone hadn't already unlocked) or if it locked back up the already unlocked ones.
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Thanks, I'll give it a try.
I did at one point have an unlocked bootloader, but I wasn't sure whether the latest OTA updates only blocked the ability to unlock (if someone hadn't already unlocked) or if it locked back up the already unlocked ones.
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once the bootloader is unlocked, it cant be locked back.
Bonus. That's what I thought, something about creating a small nuclear explosion in the phone that destroys the bootloader locking resistor or something. Glad I took care of that prior to the update that shut the door on that exploit.
Something else I thought of... I'm reading that 4.4 makes it much harder to root phones. I guess we won't know until the OTA release comes out, but I'm hoping Voodoo Rootkeeper maintains root during the update like it has in the past for me in previous updates.
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Bonus. That's what I thought, something about creating a small nuclear explosion in the phone that destroys the bootloader locking resistor or something. Glad I took care of that prior to the update that shut the door on that exploit.
Something else I thought of... I'm reading that 4.4 makes it much harder to root phones. I guess we won't know until the OTA release comes out, but I'm hoping Voodoo Rootkeeper maintains root during the update like it has in the past for me in previous updates.
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If your bootloader is unlocked, you don't need to maintain root. You just need to flash a SU zip in recovery.
so if i unlock my bootloader, i will still be able to receive the eventual ota 4.4 update correct?
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If your bootloader is unlocked, you don't need to maintain root. You just need to flash a SU zip in recovery.
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peladoro said:
so if i unlock my bootloader, i will still be able to receive the eventual ota 4.4 update correct?
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Yes, but you won't be able to unlock if you're system version is newer than May.
hey rikrong...as i had mentioned in another thread, found out that i am indeed able to root unlock etc...(xt925). so it's safe to say that unlocking the bootloader for obvious reasons is needed to flash roms but is not negatively affecting the phone from functioning in anyway right? sorry if these r stupid questions but just trying to understand...the only issue is warranty
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Yes, but you won't be able to unlock if you're system version is newer than May.
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peladoro said:
hey rikrong...as i had mentioned in another thread, found out that i am indeed able to root unlock etc...(xt925). so it's safe to say that unlocking the bootloader for obvious reasons is needed to flash roms but is not negatively affecting the phone from functioning in anyway right? sorry if these r stupid questions but just trying to understand...the only issue is warranty
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Yeah, sorry, I lose track of the posts. Just simply unlocking the BL should have no adverse affect on the phone, just the warranty, like you said.
hehe...ok thanks again!!!
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Yeah, sorry, I lose track of the posts. Just simply unlocking the BL should have no adverse affect on the phone, just the warranty, like you said.
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The dead robot is your stock recovery screen. You need to hold vol+ and tap pwr at the same time to get into your stock recovery.
When you flash a recovery.img, you need to immediately boot back into the recovery to get the updater script to finish. If you don't boot straight into recovery after flashing, the stock recovery will override the aftermarket recovery. Also, do you have an unlocked bootloader?
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Hello
Please can you explain step by step how to install a cwm ? (i just unlock the bootloader)
Do i have to root the phone to do that ?
Thank you
Hi guys, I found this program "I'm root" my question is, I'd like to close the boot-loader jut for security reasons, but now I've set up everything as I wanted so I don't want to delete everything again.
Can I use this program it seem to be really good.
"BootUnlocker for Nexus Devices"
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.segv11.bootunlocker
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Yes. I use this to lock and unlock my bootloader once rooted. It doesn't wipe anything.
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rootSU said:
Yes. I use this to lock and unlock my bootloader once rooted. It doesn't wipe anything.
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WOW perfect then I'll do it. Like this if I lose my phone no one will be able to steal anything. (Steal I say xD, they can't do that much. but you know what I mean.)
If you have a custom recovery they can. So make sure you have a stock recovery
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Yes. I use this to lock and unlock my bootloader once rooted. It doesn't wipe anything.
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Can I lock the bootloader using this app with a custom recovery installed so that when I need to install updates to the rom or flash something I wouldn't need to flash/boot Philz again after unlocking?
Or do I need to flash the stock recovery before locking with this app??
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Can I lock the bootloader using this app with a custom recovery installed so that when I need to install updates to the rom or flash something I wouldn't need to flash/boot Philz again after unlocking?
Or do I need to flash the stock recovery before locking with this app??
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As long as you're rooted it'll work with a custom recovery or stock. Edit, just be careful if you do a lot of messing around on your phone. You may be locked when you wish you weren't
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jd1639 said:
As long as you're rooted it'll work with a custom recovery or stock. Edit, just be careful if you do a lot of messing around on your phone. You may be locked when you wish you weren't
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Yes, I get that.. If I end up in a bootloop I would need to use fastboot which will erase all my data.. That's what you're warning me about, right?
To tell you the truth, I'm actually worried about this eMMC failure thing as I have a 1 year LG warranty (not google's). I have seen a few threads where they weren't able to relock their bootloaders before sending it in as the eMMC's write function was screwed up. If I send my device in with a unlocked bootloader, warranty will go down the drain for sure. LG is very strict regarding this matter.
May be I'm thinking too much but my friend had faced similar issues with his HTC One and he had to shell out half the price of the phone to get the mobo replaced even though he had warranty
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Yes, I get that.. If I end up in a bootloop I would need to use fastboot which will erase all my data.. That's what you're warning me about, right?
To tell you the truth, I'm actually worried about this eMMC failure thing as I have a 1 year LG warranty (not google's). I have seen a few threads where they weren't able to relock their bootloaders before sending it in as the eMMC's write function was screwed up. If I send my device in with a unlocked bootloader, warranty will go down the drain for sure. LG is very strict regarding this matter.
May be I'm thinking too much but my friend had faced similar issues with his HTC One and he had to shell out half the price of the phone to get the mobo replaced even though he had warranty
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I'm guessing that if your emmc failed you wouldn't be able to lock using this app. Boot it is an easy way to keep it locked until you need to unlock. It is a good app and it's been on my phone for months. But I usually keep it unlocked
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If you have a custom recovery they can. So make sure you have a stock recovery
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So if I have a custom recovery I can!!!! and then you said make sure you have a stock recovery...
What I have to have, stock or custom?
When you say custom you mean, -hammerhead or clockwork- right?
Thanks.
you can have a custom recovery and use that app to lock and unlock your bootloader, just as you can have a custom recovery and lock/unlock your bootloader with the fastboot command.. fastboot oem lock(fastboot oem unlock).
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I'm guessing that if your emmc failed you wouldn't be able to lock using this app. Boot it is an easy way to keep it locked until you need to unlock. It is a good app and it's been on my phone for months. But I usually keep it unlocked
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That's why I was thinking to after flashing what I want to, I would lock the bootloader with the app so suppose one fine day my eMMC gets fried, I wouldn't be in trouble as it will be locked.
If I want to flash anything, unlock with the app, flash via recovery, reboot and then lock the bootloader again! Does sound good, right??
LOL, now I'm surely thinking too much
ivan333 said:
So if I have a custom recovery I can!!!! and then you said make sure you have a stock recovery...
What I have to have, stock or custom?
When you say custom you mean, -hammerhead or clockwork- right?
Thanks.
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Rootsu was referring to the ability to hack onto your phone not the bootunlocker app. Bootunlocker will work if you're rooted and it doesn't matter if you have stock or a custom recovery
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That's why I was thinking to after flashing what I want to, I would lock the bootloader with the app so suppose one fine day my eMMC gets fried, I wouldn't be in trouble as it will be locked.
If I want to flash anything, unlock with the app, flash via recovery, reboot and then lock the bootloader again! Does sound good, right??
LOL, now I'm sure thinking too much
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then you dont need the app. after you unlock your bootloader and root it, just boot into your bootloader after and lock it.
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then you dont need the app. after you unlock your bootloader and root it, just boot into your bootloader after and lock it.
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But then, when I need to flash a nightly or any mod, I would need to unlock the bootloader via fastboot to access the custom recovery which will wipe everyhting, right? If I have the app, I can simply unlock it without wiping.
Or should I just use fastboot boot on a locked bootloader to flash any mod/nightly??
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That's why I was thinking to after flashing what I want to, I would lock the bootloader with the app so suppose one fine day my eMMC gets fried, I wouldn't be in trouble as it will be locked.
If I want to flash anything, unlock with the app, flash via recovery, reboot and then lock the bootloader again! Does sound good, right??
LOL, now I'm surely thinking too much
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Yep, that would work
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then you dont need the app. after you unlock your bootloader and root it, just boot into your bootloader after and lock it.
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But that will swap (WIPE sorry) all your phone... that's what I don't want. (Sorry maybe I misunderstood something but later I'll read it again and carefully.)
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But then, when I need to flash a nightly or any mod, I would need to unlock the bootloader via fastboot to access the custom recovery which will wipe everyhting, right? If I have the app, I can simply unlock it without wiping.
Or should I just use fastboot boot on a locked bootloader to flash any mod/nightly??
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no, wont wipe everything. just that first time.
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no, wont wipe everything. just that first time.
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Are you sure? If you oem lock and then oem unlock I think it wipes it each time.
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no, wont wipe everything. just that first time.
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Wooaaahh?! Thanks for the clarification... Just curious though, why does it not wipe everything when I unlock it the 2nd time? is it because the tamper flag is set to "true"? How does the bootloader determine that it's being unlocked the second time?
Thanks a lot!
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Wooaaahh?! Thanks for the clarification... Just curious though, why does it not wipe everything when I unlock it the 2nd time? is it because the tamper flag is set to "true"? How does the bootloader determine that it's being unlocked the second time?
Thanks a lot!
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As an fyi, I locked with bootunlocker once and then messed up by device where I had to use fastboot commands. It does wipe if you have to fastboot unlock the device again
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Hello all,
Asking this for a friend who has a rooted (I believe) Fido Razr HD (XT925). It's currently running the stock 4.1.2. What is the easiest/best way to change the phone to 5.0? Unlock the bootloader, install custom recovery, and install CM? If you could also point to the best tools for the job at this time it would be great as well.
I perused the original android development sub-forum here but I could not make heads or tails out of it because some threads say not to use the tool on the "latest" 4.1.2 OTA while some say to not use it unless the phone has the 4.4 KitKat OTA update!
Thanks all in advance.
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start here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/dro...tutorial-make-motorola-razr-hd-xt925-t2916465
then go here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-razr-hd/development/lollipop-5-0-runs-msm8960s-kkbl-t2939832
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start here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/dro...tutorial-make-motorola-razr-hd-xt925-t2916465
then go here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-razr-hd/development/lollipop-5-0-runs-msm8960s-kkbl-t2939832
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Did the first link - updated it to 4.4.2. However, after the update, the boot sequence is stuck at the Motorola Dual Core screen. Going to the recovery menu does not seem to help. How do I troubleshoot from here? Thank you.
clear davlik cache
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clear davlik cache
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The bootloader is not unlocked and the phone does not have a custom recovery so there is no option to clear davlik cache. Any alternative suggestions? Thank you!
No bl unlocked, can only flash original carrier ROM.
suggestion: unlock BL via motorola website, all data will get wiped
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No bl unlocked, can only flash original carrier ROM.
suggestion: unlock BL via motorola website, all data will get wiped
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Sorry I misspoke. The bootloader is actually UNlocked. What should be the next logical step from here? Thanks!
P.S. Tried to install CWM recovery but trying to boot into recovery immediately after installing it via fastboot takes me back to fastbook with fastbook reason, "flash failure".
So I have a Verizon Pixel and I unlocked the bootloader using depixel8 my question is if I accept any updates will my bootloader still be unlocked?
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So I have a Verizon Pixel and I unlocked the bootloader using depixel8 my question is if I accept any updates will my bootloader still be unlocked?
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Yes the only way it will lock again is if you do it. And it is advised not to.
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Yes the only way it will lock again is if you do it. And it is advised not to.
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Thank you, I don't intend to I just wasn't sure if I wanted to change the recovery yet and I didn't want it to relock on me if it updated OTA.
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So I have a Verizon Pixel and I unlocked the bootloader using depixel8 my question is if I accept any updates will my bootloader still be unlocked?
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Thank you, I don't intend to I just wasn't sure if I wanted to change the recovery yet and I didn't want it to relock on me if it updated OTA.
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You will be ok to update. you have to boot Twrp again if you want it and flash su Again if you want it. flash fire is suppose to take a update now and keep root. I haven't tested it through. Going to try it soon
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You will be ok to update. you have to boot Twrp again if you want it and flash su Again if you want it. flash fire is suppose to take a update now and keep root. I haven't tested it through. Going to try it soon
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I don't have TWRP or any other recovery installed. I left it stock just unlocked bootloader and flashed SuperSU so I could edit the build.prop to use tethering with my unlimited data plan. I'm a little afraid to change much since nothing seems to be designed for my build number.
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I don't have TWRP or any other recovery installed. I left it stock just unlocked bootloader and flashed SuperSU so I could edit the build.prop to use tethering with my unlimited data plan. I'm a little afraid to change much since nothing seems to be designed for my build number.
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I also have Verizon pixel. I have been running pure Nexus and like it so much I prob never go back to stock. Has slot of extras built in. And very stable
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I also have Verizon pixel. I have been running pure Nexus and like it so much I prob never go back to stock. Has slot of extras built in. And very stable
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So you flashed TWRP and custom ROM with no problem then? I'm actually pretty happy with the stock ROM I just want to make sure not to lose unlocked bootloader in case I want to later. Thank you for the input.
mpappas87 said:
So you flashed TWRP and custom ROM with no problem then? I'm actually pretty happy with the stock ROM I just want to make sure not to lose unlocked bootloader in case I want to later. Thank you for the input.
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Yea no problems. My main reason we're for the nav bar settings, I hate having my back button on the left. And tethering. But you can find those mods with stock to