Hey folks, well i'm with metropcs currently and thinking of switching to cricket - metropcs offers a 60/month unlimited data plan, cricket offers 60/month with 10 gigs high speed. i am wondering, after one has used their allotted 10 gigs high speed, how slow is the data throttled, can anyone report? Metropcs would be ok but the signals not too good where i live, among other factors.
thanks!
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Hey folks, well i'm with metropcs currently and thinking of switching to cricket - metropcs offers a 60/month unlimited data plan, cricket offers 60/month with 10 gigs high speed. i am wondering, after one has used their allotted 10 gigs high speed, how slow is the data throttled, can anyone report? Metropcs would be ok but the signals not too good where i live, among other factors.
thanks!
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if you currently have unlimited connection even with "not that good" coverage, it's not a good idea to change to cricket
and please try finding a more relevant thread to post your question at
I live in Georgia and cricket is a good service. I can get signal almost everywhere that my Verizon gets and plus with the new Verizon teer plans this is prolly a better deal.
I have a friend who uses Cricket. He uses it because he's in a large city and gets decent reception, but as someone else mentioned, the data speeds are not that great. I don't know if they're 2G or what, but he is always complaining that his phone is taking forever to load. So it all depends on what you're using the phone for mostly. If you NEED fast data, might need to look elsewhere.
As far as I know, new Cricket plans use the AT&T network. I seem to recall reading they cap 3G at 4mps and LTE at 8mps within your data allowance, and drop you to 2G speeds when it's up. New MetroPCS activations use T-mobile, and I don't know anything about throttling practices. I know nothing about either the old Cricket or MetroPCS CDMA networks or plans. If you do have a CDMA device on Metro, it will stop working soon if it hasn't already as T-mobile decommissions the CDMA network.
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Hello, I am going to visit USA in August for 1 month (many states), could you please advise me, which 3g network is cheapest for SMS (foreign SMS too) and 3g Internet (well, probably unlimited or best for Android heavy usage)
Thanks for attention
Read that AT&T has the best 3G coverage, but it's pretty expensive - 5 gb for $40, am I right?
P.S. Not sure if I chose correct place to post this thread
For no plan prepay you best bet is Tmobile. 3G coverage in almost all real cities. Edge in most small towns, and G everywhere else. I can get internet anywhere with it just slow internet if I'm in the middle of nowhere driving state to state. They have a data only plan for $38.99 a month unlimited(10GB). Or 500 anytime minutes free nights and weeksends, unlimited txt and unlimited data(10GB) for $59.99. If you go ATT you will have to run a credit check even to get 1 month of service and even then they don't have any data only plans so your bill will most likely be the 39.99 + $30 for 2GB data, + tax's which run around $10.
Thank you very much, in this case I'll take T-mobile unlimited data plan then
And maybe keeping second (old) phone with old sim card in roaming
Which plan do you think it is better to take for my sister if she doesn't use the internet at all and just SMS?
and are this unlimited SMS work if you send them abroad? I mean are they still free?
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For no plan prepay you best bet is Tmobile. 3G coverage in almost all real cities. Edge in most small towns, and G everywhere else.
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uh... just make sure that your phone supports Tmo's 3G bands (probably not)... 1700 AWS, not 2100 (i.e. UTMS 1700 not UTMS 2100)...
Yep, T-Mobile would be your best bet
Check out Simple Mobile.
They use T-mobile's network and offers $60 for everything INCLUDING unlimited international text message. If can get good T-mobile service in your area, you might as well sign up with them to save bunch. The only downside is you have to have a unlocked or T-mobile compatible GSM phone in advance as they don't provide subsidized phones.
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Check out Simple Mobile.
They use T-mobile's network and offers $60 for everything INCLUDING unlimited international text message. If can get good T-mobile service in your area, you might as well sign up with them to save bunch. The only downside is you have to have a unlocked or T-mobile compatible GSM phone in advance as they don't provide subsidized phones.
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thanks, I am planning to but off contract Samsung Captivate (AT&T version of Galaxy S), but then unlock it for any GSM network
never heard about Simple Mobile, will google it, thanks
DarkVasyaK said:
thanks, I am planning to but off contract Samsung Captivate (AT&T version of Galaxy S), but then unlock it for any GSM network
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Again... don't expect such phones to work with Tmo's 3G... you'll be stuck with EDGE...
You'll need the Samsung Vibrant if you want Tmo's 3G to work in the US... or a Behold II or MyTouch... plus Tmo has funky rules for Android phones on prepay (or not)... you may need to do their FlexPay ...
there's a good chance that you'll have to go with AT&T prepaid... given what you're planning...
Your Euro phones probably won't work with Tmo 3G but you very well might pick it up some places. Many many many people have picked up 3G on tmo's US network with INTL unlocked phones. One of the bands matches, the other doesn't. So it depends on which tower your near.
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Your Euro phones probably won't work with Tmo 3G but you very well might pick it up some places. Many many many people have picked up 3G on tmo's US network with INTL unlocked phones. One of the bands matches, the other doesn't. So it depends on which tower your near.
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I believe what you say is incorrect. Not only are the frequencies around 2100Mhz different between Tmo's 1700/2100 (UTMS1700) and UTMS2100 different, but UTMS1700 *depends* on the 1700Mhz for uplink, so you can't even create a connection.
Actually...certain Asian phones operate on the same frequency bands as T-Mobile...but good luck getting your hands on one.
~Jasecloud4
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So, I am going to buy Samsung Captivate
It's UMTS 850/1900/2100
If I unlock it for any sim and put T-mobile sim inside, 3g won't work?
I should use AT&T then? I saw at the web site that there is a 5 gb data plan for $60
I don't really want to buy T-mobile Samsung Vibrant because it's easier for me to buy international version then, but I don't really like how it looks.
And just one more question, I am going to live in Singapore for 1 year soon, does anybody know if 3g will work with Captivate in Singapore?
DarkVasyaK said:
Confused
So, I am going to buy Samsung Captivate
It's UMTS 850/1900/2100
If I unlock it for any sim and put T-mobile sim inside, 3g won't work?
I should use AT&T then? I saw at the web site that there is a 5 gb data plan for $60
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This is correct. Tmo runs on a special band so only Tmo branded phones, and some "asian or INTL" phones can use tmo 3G. ATT 3G is US standard and can be used by most phones, but ATT doesn't have any unlimited dataplans anymore. They don't have any prepay dataplans, the only data only plans they offer are for the ipad. So your gonna pay much more, but ATT will give you better 3G coverage, but slower in the cities compared to TMO. TMO actually is beating out sprint 4G in most area's, but its coverage is spotty and only in large cities. I would go tmo and buy a throw away phone when you get here. Or get a tmo phone for the trip, then actually spend real money on a phone when you get home. You can get a TP2 for around $150-$200 here, and HD2 for $250, then you can ebay it off when you get home or sell it real quick on CL before you leave. If you haven't tried it the TMO HD2 is a beast.
well, I wanted to use tons of android apps using 3g internet, but in this case I should just use EDGE... don't want to buy special phone for 3g or something like that...
it seems that I have a choice between 3g with AT&T for $60 (5 gb) and T-mobile EDGE for $40 (unlimited data) ?
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well, I wanted to use tons of android apps using 3g internet, but in this case I should just use EDGE... don't want to buy special phone for 3g or something like that...
it seems that I have a choice between 3g with AT&T for $60 (5 gb) and T-mobile EDGE for $40 (unlimited data) ?
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well you could get 100MB of data on AT&T for $20... but perhaps that isn't enough for you... seek out Wifi whenever possible? (that's what I do when traveling outside the US...)
or live with Tmo EDGE, which really isn't that bad and some would claim that you may be dealing with EDGE or EDGE-like bandwidth on AT&T as well, depending on where you go and congestion (hoards of iphone users)...
Hellos,
Was wondering and wanted to know from others, their experiences with using a D2G with different carriers/services.
I have a D2G on simple mobile currently. Switched from Sprint using an EVO 4G, data in my calling areas just stunk and never got better, forget ever getting a 4G signal..
But, it seems I am in an area between towers, because I seem to get the same result using Simple Mobile connected to Tmobile Towers. Signal drops from nothing to 3 bars if I turn around. And I only get an Edge data connection (I understand it's a frequency issue).
I was told by a Walmart Rep, that they use Family Mobile powered by Tmobile and don't have the throttle issue as with Simple Mobile, but 250mb data cap at the same $45/month as Straight Talk (even thought I'd be stuck at Edge with the D2G anyways) is too low a cap, especially if I were to switch phones later on.
So I recently read into Straight Talk as an option, after reading how bad H2O data is and that Simple Mobile's 3G is throttled to 119kbs (tested on a SK4G, yeap confirmed 119kbs max).
So I wanted to know from others, what kind of data rates they are getting on various providers using a D2G.
-CC
clockcycle said:
Hellos,
I was told by a Walmart Rep, that they use Family Mobile powered by Tmobile and don't have the throttle issue as with Simple Mobile, but 250mb data cap at the same $45/month as Straight Talk (even thought I'd be stuck at Edge with the D2G anyways) is too low a cap, especially if I were to switch phones later on.
So I recently read into Straight Talk as an option, after reading how bad H2O data is and that Simple Mobile's 3G is throttled to 119kbs (tested on a SK4G, yeap confirmed 119kbs max).
So I wanted to know from others, what kind of data rates they are getting on various providers using a D2G.
-CC
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I would not know about Droid using 2G (on my old phones what I used as T-Mobile EDGE) or what I call "100K data" connection since I don't get it around here. I am sure that my data connection at times has degraded to 2G, but I have not noticed that as being the issue, so I have not been able to perform a speed test while in 2G mode.
Last June 2011 I used a Droid style phone on Virgin Mobile USA prepaid. That was the Motorola Triumph. I can't recall as a MVNO who was providing Virgin Mobile's signal, but I think it was Sprint by that point (Sprint bought Virgin Mobile USA prepaid). In any event, I was not pleased with the VM speeds (that is, if I was not using WiFi). My speeds were consistently about 300K to 700K.
Currently I use Straight Talk and I am VERY VERY pleased with the service. When I bought a phone and a Straight Talk SIM card I opted for GSM AT&T service since it had better GSM phones than T-Mobile did.
Since Straight Talk is an MVNO (buying its signal or "tower space" from other carriers and spectrum resellers) one's Straight Talk signal and data connection will only be as good as the provider you chose to use with your Straight Talk account. I assume the same principle applies to CDMA and Droid (Motorola) handsets.
Where I live in San Francisco I get a better signal from GSM-based AT&T than I did with T-Mobile GSM handsets, so on Straight Talk's SIM purchasing site I chose to buy an AT&T GSM SIM.
Whereas with T-Mobile 4G I would often get 2G in most parts of my residence, with AT&T 4G (again, this is with Straight Talk) using an Samsung Galaxy S II and ATT HTC Inspire, I consistently get a strong 4G signal (says "H+" on notification bar). And speed tests have been outstanding, (using speed test net 2286 kbps download, 1130kbps upload). Those speeds are in the "slower part of the house). This does not matter most of the time, however, since I use WiFi 90% of the time.
Bottom line: I suspect one's physical locale, handset model, and provider (CDMA, GSM, or specific carrier) all play an important part in the speed and quality of a data connection. In other words, everyone's experience may differ, even with someone who has the exact same setup as I, but who lives down the block.
Can I simply switch my iPhone 4s Microsim to the HOX, or do I need to change plans? I was looking online at my available data plans and they are all marked as "iPhone" data plans.
You need update your data plan to LTE plan. Or else your data won't work.
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You need update your data plan to LTE plan. Or else your data won't work.
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What if you change the apn? Will u get 3g/hspa+?
barondebxl said:
What if you change the apn? Will u get 3g/hspa+?
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The only APN you can change to is 3G (wap.cingular), not HSPA+ which also requires your data plan to be updated to 4G or LTE.
But update your data plan doesn't change your data cap or pricing. It is just a way for AT&T to verify your existing data plan and add an authorization. This is to prevent those who has the old non-smartphone data plan ($10 to $15/mo for unlimited) to take advantage of new faster network.
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The only APN you can change to is 3G (wap.cingular), not HSPA+ which also requires your data plan to be updated to 4G or LTE.
But update your data plan doesn't change your data cap or pricing. It is just a way for AT&T to verify your existing data plan and add an authorization. This is to prevent those who has the old non-smartphone data plan ($10 to $15/mo for unlimited) to take advantage of new faster network.
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One more question, if I have an AT&T gophone plan with 1gb of data, can I insert my sim in any 4g LTE smartphone ( AT&T galaxy note, lumia 900, HTC vivid or HTC one x) and get 3 g speeds if I put the right apn?
barondebxl said:
One more question, if I have an AT&T gophone plan with 1gb of data, can I insert my sim in any 4g LTE smartphone ( AT&T galaxy note, lumia 900, HTC vivid or HTC one x) and get 3 g speeds if I put the right apn?
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Yes, you can. At least for a while until AT&T catches you. AT&T is now actively scan the go phones for violations. AT&T branded 4G and LTE phones can't be used with go phone without a separate, much more expensive data plan. If your phone is AT&T branded, the detection rate will be 100% because AT&T has your IMEI in the database.
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Yes, you can. At least for a while until AT&T catches you. AT&T is now actively scan the go phones for violations. AT&T branded 4G and LTE phones can't be used with go phone without a separate, much more expensive data plan. If your phone is AT&T branded, the detection rate will be 100% because AT&T has your IMEI in the database.
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Thanks a lot man it helps. Damn so they might cut me off if I buy the one x and use their it on a gophone. But why do they care if I buy the phone outright and just use the 3G gophone speeds?
barondebxl said:
Thanks a lot man it helps. Damn so they might cut me off if I buy the one x and use their it on a gophone. But why do they care if I buy the phone outright and just use the 3G gophone speeds?
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1. Just because they can
2. 3G and 4G HSPA+ is the same network. And that's the same network that is heavily congested. They can't afford ppl take a faster 4G phone to use a lot of bandwidth without paying the expensive data plan for it. GoPhone plans are caculated based on the assumption that you use a dumb phone or old/slow smartphone that can't suck down data that fast.
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1. Just because they can
2. 3G and 4G HSPA+ is the same network. And that's the same network that is heavily congested. They can't afford ppl take a faster 4G phone to use a lot of bandwidth without paying the expensive data plan for it. GoPhone plans are caculated based on the assumption that you use a dumb phone or old/slow smartphone that can't suck down data that fast.
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Got you. Thanks very much for the info. I might just buy the international version cause I don't wanna pay full price for the device and run into some issues with AT&T. Too bad I really wanted the S4 chip...Oh well. Thanks again dude!
Thanks for all the replies, i'll be switching my plan once my new phone comes in. Just a few more days!
Don't forget to disable iMessage before you change phones
Sometimes people with iPhones won't be able to text you because your iMessage would still be active
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im never in an LTE area as I am in CT. Wouldnt it make sense for me not to change my 4g hsdpa plan to the LTE Plan that way it never connects to LTE , Thus no battery drain?
aimetti said:
im never in an LTE area as I am in CT. Wouldnt it make sense for me not to change my 4g hsdpa plan to the LTE Plan that way it never connects to LTE , Thus no battery drain?
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The battery drain would be caused by the radio hardware in the device searching for a signal, regardless what plan you have- the phone is programmed to search for that signal. Also, I think AT&T will try to bump you to an LTE plan based off of the phone's IMEI number accessing its towers, like they did with the HSPA "4G" (data capped) plans with some Atrix users last year.
I have an LG Nitro HD, and I'm loving it, but I'm still on my prepaid Go-Phone plan from AT&T that I got 4 years and 3 phones ago. I want to upgrade to the cheapest plan I can with mobile data (so I can use my fancy-pants GPS apps,) which turns out to be T-Mobile's $2/day plan, because you only pay on days you use the phone, and I'm being a chatterbox if I make more than a call per week.
The road bump that's keeping me from switching right now is that the 2/day plan only offers the 2G network, and even if I go with the $3/day plan that includes 4G unlimited data, my local area (and in fact most of my home state) is only covered by 2G or a service partner according to their coverage map. I don't know if that means 2G speeds, or if it's literally a 2G network, but either way, it makes me nervous to buy.
Anyway, my big question is if I can use GPS on this 2G network. My Nitro has all the bells and whistles, so it can deal with GPS and data up to 4G speeds, but can I actually use it with the network available to me?
Hello Folks,
I know the Moto G only supports HSPA (3G+), If i have the USA GSM edition, would i be better off with the Straight Talk, TMobile Sim or the ATT sim given the frequencies to take advantage of the speeds ?
I live in the Los Angele's area
Thanks,
Pete
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pasta1234 said:
Hello Folks,
I know the Moto G only supports HSPA (3G+), If i have the USA GSM edition, would i be better off with the Straight Talk, TMobile Sim or the ATT sim given the frequencies to take advantage of the speeds ?
I live in the Los Angele's area
Thanks,
Pete
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Doesn't matter if you have the usa model. Tmobile is fast but coverage is spotty in rural locations.
I'd use opensignal's maps to make your mind up.
If you go with att, you can go through aio and get it for $150, but they had it for $99 so I wouldn't buy it through them.
Well opensignals maps and other don't differentiate between service (in 3g and 4g) and hspa+.
Since the moto g is technically only capable of hspa+ is there a way to tell if my area is better suited for tmo or att services?
Straight talk is cheaper than aio also, any reason I'd use them over St for the same services?
Thanks,
Pete
sprockkets said:
Doesn't matter if you have the usa model. Tmobile is fast but coverage is spotty in rural locations.
I'd use opensignal's maps to make your mind up.
If you go with att, you can go through aio and get it for $150, but they had it for $99 so I wouldn't buy it through them.
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I have an XT1034 (US GSM 16 GB) and am on Straight Talk.
I currently have an AT&T SIM card in the phone and get solid coverage wherever I go in Pennsylvania. My data is decent but does slow down throughout the day. I assume I'm being throttled, but I'm not complaining since I typically use several gigs a day.
I originally had a T-Mobile SIM in and while my data would drop to 1X in some areas during my commute I got better speeds and was not throttled (but at the time I was not using as much data).
So to summarize it depends on your usage and location. If you pick up one of the BYOD kits at Wal Mart for $65 you can try both networks and see which works best.
Thanks Folks...Ordered the ATT sim, lets see how it goes
Pete