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What I am looking for is a compact phone not a mini TV like the one X or galaxy S3.
My options are one S, xperia S and galaxy S2. One S is overall the superior but annoyingly it is severely gimped by HTC in the storage. Why wont they release the 32GB version and charge a bit more for it?
What does HTC think that I am gonna buy the one X if I want more memory? No HTC there are plenty of other companies fighting to get my $ and there are plenty of phones other than the one X and one S.
Samsung has already sent HTC to the distant second in the android camp and yet they act like they can gimp their second best phone in something so essential as storage. It is one thing not having a technological edge over your competitor okay fine but these sort intentional things to bottleneck your phone are just ridiculous.
The one X is beat by S3 but the one S seems to rule it's category of 4.3" phones. Hurrah HTC for not realizing you had a real winner with the one S. 10GB USB storage is a joke for a phone that can record 1080p video and play all the latest games.
At least they could have used unified storage like the galaxy nexus to make 16GB total space somewhat more acceptable.
that is so true. But to bring only 16gb to europe seems to be more commen these days. The S3 will also only come with 16gb...
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that is so true. But to bring only 16gb to europe seems to be more commen these days. The S3 will also only come with 16gb...
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Hmm S3 has 16/32/64GB variants and more importantly all of them have SD card slot so it doesnt matter even if one can only get 16GB one.
We have less than 16gigs on our phone. To use,that is. Very disappointing
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Fully agree!
if storage is an issue...get something else
problem solved!
But it's not that easy choice. The thing is that you don't have that many alternatives in this phone/price class. U don't buy a phone just for SD-slot . I would love to have so powerful handset like One S. I am sure that it'll have a decent devs' support (unlikely to xperia s) pretty soon. Lack of SD-slot makes purchase of One S a quite big compromise though. I think it was extremely stupid move of HTC. They were on a best way to have a crown king of 4.3" phones. If you consider all pros and cons one year old (and of course less powerful but still very solid) S2 doesn't seem a bad choice today.
Yes exactly the S2 may have a slower CPU but other than that it equals or beats the one S in everything else. Better screen, SD card slot and removable battery.
SD card would be a non issue for me with 32GB and removable battery is an advantage but not really a significant one. Comon HTC still you have time, be wise and release a 32GB version.
I really cannot understand you folks.. If you say that HTC is silly because they didn't meet your personal desires, then you're not thinking reasonably enough..
HTC clearly designed the One X as their power horse, not the One S. Due to quad core, NFC and hd display they thought it follows future trends and looking at the SGS3 they had quite the same idea. For those producers 4.8" is now the standard and they believe that people will adept to this, just like they always do. So the One S is not designed to catch power users who would sell their souls for any modern invention, but simply the rest. So it kept 4.3" and to have something special, it got this beautiful design. Neither HTC nor Samsung would have expected even power users to deny 4.8" because of terms of usability. We can be grateful that they got this amazing S4 for the One S because this is, what makes it a competitor to those power horses since quad cores are not nearly fully supported.
BUT: If you produce a high class and a middle class model, then you simply HAVE to make differences to push the max. amount of consumers towards your more expensive high class model. Producers like HTC are well doing in statistical analytics and they just calculated that most people out of the target group for the One S would accept the tradeoff with 16 GB storage. Solo many people complained about the storage, nevertheless ended up buying the One S and made HTC proof.
For me the storage is more than enough. I am making compromises with my smartphone. I have other devices and do not have to carry around my whole library on my phone.
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Lets wait for a kernel hack and maybe we can repartition the space. I don't need 2gb internal storage, only 1gb so this would be a little help.
Also if USB host mode can get enabled, if we are taking recording a few HD videos, we will be able to offload them. Not ideal but a workaround. It wouldn't be so bad if we did actually have 16gb storage, but by default were left with 10gb usable space.
Apparently 4gb is used for the O/S and Sense. This can certainly be halved for me. So hopefully we will be able to get 13gb of usable storage space.
Most smartphones come with a high / unlimited data plan, So users can just upload **** to dropbox or similar, and download some new stuff.. All my pics and videos are automatically sent to the cloud, so i dont need them on my phone 24/7..
And if you dont have unlimited data, Almost everywhere has wifi, and even some carriers include free wifi hotspots.. So for me its absolutely fine... However i do feel a bit ''cheated'' after realising the whole 16gb wasnt useable... I would have imagined it to be about 20gb - 4gb for system/apps whatever and 16gb for the actual user...
but thats life, find a workaround if you really want this phone, the rest of us did
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I really cannot understand you folks.. If you say that HTC is silly because they didn't meet your personal desires, then you're not thinking reasonably enough..
HTC clearly designed the One X as their power horse, not the One S. Due to quad core, NFC and hd display they thought it follows future trends and looking at the SGS3 they had quite the same idea. For those producers 4.8" is now the standard and they believe that people will adept to this, just like they always do. So the One S is not designed to catch power users who would sell their souls for any modern invention, but simply the rest. So it kept 4.3" and to have something special, it got this beautiful design. Neither HTC nor Samsung would have expected even power users to deny 4.8" because of terms of usability. We can be grateful that they got this amazing S4 for the One S because this is, what makes it a competitor to those power horses since quad cores are not nearly fully supported.
BUT: If you produce a high class and a middle class model, then you simply HAVE to make differences to push the max. amount of consumers towards your more expensive high class model. Producers like HTC are well doing in statistical analytics and they just calculated that most people out of the target group for the One S would accept the tradeoff with 16 GB storage. Solo many people complained about the storage, nevertheless ended up buying the One S and made HTC proof.
For me the storage is more than enough. I am making compromises with my smartphone. I have other devices and do not have to carry around my whole library on my phone.
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I've never said that HTC in general is silly(they made a stupid move ). Hold on your horses. I just think that 16 gb of memory (10 gb user available) is a joke when a hq photo weighs 3 mb, and a nand backup approx. 1 GB (Well AOSP based a half of it). It's not about meeting my personal desires. Either SD-slot or more than 16 gb of internal storage is definitely NOT a luxury in 2012 (and especially not for a popular and one of the most expensive android phones). And lack of possibility to extend it is IMO a step backwards. I am aware that One X is a flagship, but come on it doesn't mean users that prefer 4.3" have to "shut up, be grateful" and do not demand anything more than it was brought in 2011. I do not expect a quad-core CPU, it's not my goal. But Galaxy S2 standard with something faster than Mali 400? Why shouldn't I? It's 2012.
For some users it is enough with 10 GB of storage and I respect that. For me is not. I flash a lot of software, I play with theming, and thus I need a lot of free space for roms, mods and nand backups (Sometimes I restore different backups several times a day), + some 3-4 gb for music (not everything can be found on spotify) and video-files.
I still think HTC One S is a very interesting device with huge potential to become a legendary phone, but as any other handset it has its cons that should be taken into consideration before I make my final decision about purchase.
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I really cannot understand you folks.. If you say that HTC is silly because they didn't meet your personal desires, then you're not thinking reasonably enough..
HTC clearly designed the One X as their power horse, not the One S. Due to quad core, NFC and hd display they thought it follows future trends and looking at the SGS3 they had quite the same idea. For those producers 4.8" is now the standard and they believe that people will adept to this, just like they always do. So the One S is not designed to catch power users who would sell their souls for any modern invention, but simply the rest. So it kept 4.3" and to have something special, it got this beautiful design. Neither HTC nor Samsung would have expected even power users to deny 4.8" because of terms of usability. We can be grateful that they got this amazing S4 for the One S because this is, what makes it a competitor to those power horses since quad cores are not nearly fully supported.
BUT: If you produce a high class and a middle class model, then you simply HAVE to make differences to push the max. amount of consumers towards your more expensive high class model. Producers like HTC are well doing in statistical analytics and they just calculated that most people out of the target group for the One S would accept the tradeoff with 16 GB storage. Solo many people complained about the storage, nevertheless ended up buying the One S and made HTC proof.
For me the storage is more than enough. I am making compromises with my smartphone. I have other devices and do not have to carry around my whole library on my phone.
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One X has the HD screen and quad core CPU to lure power users. It doesnt take a power user to not be happy with 10GB storage.
Why would HTC want to sell a one X instead of one S? It's not like the one S is some low end phone. A user chooses either phone and it's win-win for HTC. I think the main purpose of the one S to be an option for those who dont like big phones.
And I wont be buying a 16GB one S, I just made the thread in a very naive hope that maybe someone at HTC would notice lol.
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Most smartphones come with a high / unlimited data plan, So users can just upload **** to dropbox or similar, and download some new stuff.. All my pics and videos are automatically sent to the cloud, so i dont need them on my phone 24/7..
And if you dont have unlimited data, Almost everywhere has wifi, and even some carriers include free wifi hotspots.. So for me its absolutely fine... However i do feel a bit ''cheated'' after realising the whole 16gb wasnt useable... I would have imagined it to be about 20gb - 4gb for system/apps whatever and 16gb for the actual user...
but thats life, find a workaround if you really want this phone, the rest of us did
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Cloud storage is BS for everyday usage. Even if one has unlimited it sucks battery.
And it's also an extra element of file management that I would rather not have to deal with.
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Why would HTC want to sell a one X instead of one S? It's not like the one S is some low end phone. A user chooses either phone and it's win-win for HTC. I think the main purpose of the one S to be an option for those who dont like big phones.
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Exactly, One S is HTC's second most expensive device! The crown king of smartphones' world in 2011 was a 4.3" device. Today all flagships are 4.6"+ but it doesn't mean that 4'3" suddenly became low ends with no chances for further development.
I guess it's only Sony that sees the demand for powerful handsets with smaller screens- and I am grateful for that
@m.kochan10: I absolutely agree with you that the storage might become quite little regarding the usage of some of us. And I really don't like HTC to announce a phone with 16GB if there are only 10GB for free purpose. It's quite normal that those storage sizes never are promoted exactly and I'm aware of the fact that you actually can calculate this way since the other GBs actually do exist, but it's not fair regarding people thinking they'll have about 16GB for their media or what else.
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Either SD-slot or more than 16 gb of internal storage is definitely NOT a luxury in 2012 (...) And lack of possibility to extend it is IMO a step backwards.
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There are right and false points in those statements IMHO. You're right that e.g. 32GB internal storage wouldn't be luxury and practicable even without additional costs for the device. But I actually worked for a lot of companies which had to make such decisions and I can guarantee that this is a calculated, strategical, economical decision. The simply want to make differences between those two devices larger. Why?
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Why would HTC want to sell a one X instead of one S? It's not like the one S is some low end phone. A user chooses either phone and it's win-win for HTC.
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Because it means $$$.. Those two devices have most probably the same costs of production, the One S most likely even is more expensive in production and $100 difference per sold device mean a huge amount of capital. Folks I don't want to say that you should "shut up and be grateful", of course not. But complaining about economical decisions of a global player won't change a thing until they sell their devices. The don't give anything about what we think as long as they sell those devices and earn money. Selling the One X is far more lucrative. We simply have to think about the fact, that more than 80% of all world wide consumers actually don't give that much about tech spec as we do here. They like to see and feel a cool, slim, new device that has on letter huge numbers like 12mp cam, 100gb storage and 4ghz octa core cpu's not even knowing what that would be mean but having something to show off with in front of others. But they do not enter forums like this one, the do not root the device, they do not have nandroid backups, custom roms etc. Regarding this we even on Android are the minority. The average user will not complain about 10gb as long as she is able to put some of her music on it, shoot some pics and vids while on the road and installing most popular apps. And if you let people (who did not buy the flagship) choose between a 10mm-device with SD slot and removable battery and a 8mm-device with fixed storage and battery, most average users would choose the slim one. It's all about numbers and $$$, not about what HTC would be able to do. They're simply not willing and have reasons for this.
Regarding SD cards:
I appreciate it to avoid them since they are slow, not state of the art anymore and are trouble makers in any purpose you can think of. Of course from the users point of view it's nice to have extendable and removable storage that is quite cheap as well, but developers actually hate them because app development suffers from this. It's just like always: We have pros and cons here.
So I just want to make sure that I don't want to tell you that it's cool that we only have 10GBs, but that HTC has of course thought about this and that they have clear reasons for their decisions ($).
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Most smartphones come with a high / unlimited data plan, ...
And if you dont have unlimited data, Almost everywhere has wifi, and even some carriers include free wifi hotspots.. /snip
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Really? Most people that I know have 1GB/month dataplans.
And as for universal wifi - this is sorely lacking as well.
Moreover, the first rule of travel: never rely on networks
I think that HTC should have made 16GB available to the user and that would have been fine for me - 10GB is a bit small. But I understand why they didn't.
Drawbacks of a microSD slot:
*SD card speed confusion
*battery drain issues (different cards have different current consumption)
*cost and space of a card slot
*lots of people buying microSD cards that are fake or sub-par, thereby creating stability issues that are blamed on HTC, but in fact lie with the card.
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Drawbacks of a microSD slot:
*SD card speed confusion
*battery drain issues (different cards have different current consumption)
*cost and space of a card slot
*lots of people buying microSD cards that are fake or sub-par, thereby creating stability issues that are blamed on HTC, but in fact lie with the card.
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Good points
Now it's interesting discussion. I like that
@kyuubi_ac I agree that manufacturers think first of all about average users that want to enjoy their shiny devices "out of the box" and I understand their decision from a strategic, and microeconomic point of view. Average user doesn't know what is "recovery mode" not to mention a nandroid backup, and for such users 10 GB ... is not a tragedy as long as everything works as it is supposed to.
We...somehow more demanding users must consider every feature more carefully and it's almost always a compromise. Would you like to have a faster CPU/GPU or bigger storage and slightly slower processor? Better camera or unlocked bootloader and better devs' support? All about opportunity costs.
Absolutely agreeing.
I dont agree at all that it was in the best interest of business for HTC to take such decisions. No offense to any HTC fan but if HTC really knew how to do business then they wouldnt have lost so much marketshare to samsung, they wouldnt have made so little profit in the last quarter.
HTC is not apple people dont blindly buy their product, a company like HTC really needs hardcore users to like their devices and then spread the word.
Even apple makes 3 different storage variants of their phones, clearly there is demand for different kinds of storage or else they wont.
Even the low end one V has more storage than one S because it supports SD card pop in a 16GB card and you have total 15.5GB usable memory. OMG see how ridiculous is it??
If HTC wasnt serious about one S they shouldnt have released it. They have essentially ruined the phone for an item that doesnt even cost $20 to manufacture.
Long story short, I hard bricked my Evo 3D because I flashed the boot image to the wrong partition by not properly editing the updater-script when trying to port Jellybean (very developer NOOB move even though I'm not one by a long shot). So I'm thinking about buying one on Amazon to tie me over until my upgrade next year, because right now, my parents' only option (until I get the money) is to let me use a Blackberry, its torture (-_-)... I've read up on this and I am thoroughly impressed with the specs given it was released in 2010, plus it has ICS Officially. So I just have a handful of questions!
1. How is the Developer scene here? Is it still very active?
2. How good are the 3G speeds on this (I'm not getting 4G)
3. How is battery life
4. Is the phone easily breakable (this determines if I buy a case or not upon my ordering)
5. Can I still have me an awesome gaming experience? I am the Asphalt 6 and Shadowgun type of guy, so gaming is a must.
6. How quickly can someone fill up that 512MB space? and has someone made script that moves the WHOLE app to an external SD or repartitioned the space to give 1GB space?
I'll be sure to add more questions should they come up...
Now I have read that this has no SD card slot, and this would have been a problem. But as of recently, I have become a cloud kid. My Music is on Google Play Music, I have a couple of Movies and TV Shows on my SD Card but I can put those on my box cloud storage, that means that I can use all 16 GB for Game caches and the few movies and shows I frequently watch.
I just want to know your opinion, and the pros and cons of the phone, alongside the questions I asked. Thanks in advance!
Developer scene is still pretty solid. Expect an additional boost in a few weeks when Jelly Bean arrives. 3G speeds and reception should be decent so long as you have a decent provider, it is more dependent on them than on the phone. Battery life is mediocre, though you can pull off 4 hours of screen time a day with a little bit of effort (and compromise). It is generally a pretty stubborn phone. It won't break straight off the bat, but being plastic it will tend to scratch easily from rough surfaces. The screen can take a fair bit of abuse so don't be scared about the lack of "gorilla glass" branding, plus it's curved which is both great to touch and means it's less prone to scratched glass. I've found a case to be good due to the phone being slippery, but have since decided to use it without one. If you intend to root the phone i'm sure the gaming experience will be a good one, and likely even more so with jellybean - though there are certain games that won't even install (some tegra and tablet based games i think, i don't game that much on the phone so don't take my word on this).
As for storage, you have 16GB in the phone classified as "sdcard". It is built in and non-replaceable, with no external sdcard slot. It is partitioned primarily into /system, /data and /sdcard. /system holds the android operating system and is plenty big enough even for development purposes. /data is approximately 1GB and holds the data for apps only, so you have 1GB worth of apps which you can keep installed on the phone. The /sdcard partition is around 15GB and formatted as FAT32, so you can throw all of your music, photos, videos and sd2ext (built in, not a seperate app) apps here, so any larger games would be thrown onto the sdcard if you choose so, generally giving plenty of room. The only drawback for me, personally, is the lack of room for music - but you seem to have yourself sorted there.
And as i said above, if you really want to get every benefit from this phone it should be unlocked and rooted. It loves being free. Otherwise it's just a Galaxy S.
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Developer scene is still pretty solid. Expect an additional boost in a few weeks when Jelly Bean arrives. 3G speeds and reception should be decent so long as you have a decent provider, it is more dependent on them than on the phone. Battery life is mediocre, though you can pull off 4 hours of screen time a day with a little bit of effort (and compromise). It is generally a pretty stubborn phone. It won't break straight off the bat, but being plastic it will tend to scratch easily from rough surfaces. The screen can take a fair bit of abuse so don't be scared about the lack of "gorilla glass" branding, plus it's curved which is both great to touch and means it's less prone to scratched glass. I've found a case to be good due to the phone being slippery, but have since decided to use it without one. If you intend to root the phone i'm sure the gaming experience will be a good one, and likely even more so with jellybean - though there are certain games that won't even install (some tegra and tablet based games i think, i don't game that much on the phone so don't take my word on this).
As for storage, you have 16GB in the phone classified as "sdcard". It is built in and non-replaceable, with no external sdcard slot. It is partitioned primarily into /system, /data and /sdcard. /system holds the android operating system and is plenty big enough even for development purposes. /data is approximately 1GB and holds the data for apps only, so you have 1GB worth of apps which you can keep installed on the phone. The /sdcard partition is around 15GB and formatted as FAT32, so you can throw all of your music, photos, videos and sd2ext (built in, not a seperate app) apps here, so any larger games would be thrown onto the sdcard if you choose so, generally giving plenty of room. The only drawback for me, personally, is the lack of room for music - but you seem to have yourself sorted there.
And as i said above, if you really want to get every benefit from this phone it should be unlocked and rooted. It loves being free. Otherwise it's just a Galaxy S.
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And my decision was solidified with the acquisition of jellybean. I can get a gnex experience for the most part without having to shell out so much money. I just need a gaming device (I'm going to buy chainfire for the coupe of tegra games I want) and an entertainment hub. I will buy a case asap, probably a ballistic case, an some other stuff, thank you so much
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One more thing to point out though, if you end up getting the 4G version (the only CDMA version, which i think is what Sprint uses) it may take longer to get JB and I can't comment on CDMA networks 3G. It will be approximately on par with most other phones running on the same network, though.
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I just want to know your opinion, and the pros and cons of the phone, alongside the questions I asked. Thanks in advance!
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The Nexus range is the first to get the Jelly Bean update, so it's certain that Google is paying extra attention to it.
As a friend of mine (also owning a Nexus S) pointed out, the development activity is one of the best out there.
In terms of performance, I was happy with it in 99% of time, you can't pretend the same performance as a quad core phone but overclocking the phone at a safe 1200mhz makes it significantly faster.
All in all, it is a very good phone for the price you pay.
Good luck and let us know if you decided getting the phone.
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One more thing to point out though, if you end up getting the 4G version (the only CDMA version, which i think is what Sprint uses) it may take longer to get JB and I can't comment on CDMA networks 3G. It will be approximately on par with most other phones running on the same network, though.
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I am aware of Sprint and their inability to push updates properly, so it's expected. I will be rooted and running a slim ICS Rom anyway
, so I can just install JB after they get the update it in rooted Rom style.
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The Nexus range is the first to get the Jelly Bean update, so it's certain that Google is paying extra attention to it.
As a friend of mine (also owning a Nexus S) pointed out, the development activity is one of the best out there.
In terms of performance, I was happy with it in 99% of time, you can't pretend the same performance as a quad core phone but overclocking the phone at a safe 1200mhz makes it significantly faster.
All in all, it is a very good phone for the price you pay.
Good luck and let us know if you decided getting the phone.
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I got a little excited yesterday and decided to do research on some other phones that could be possible contenders, but this phone takes home the crown. My parents said that because I broke the phone, I cover the expenses. So I did the math.
If I get a galaxy nexus now:
I have to buy out my contract ($100), and then buy the phone ($150) = $250
If I buy a galaxy S III now:
I have to buy out the contract (same) and buy the phone ($200) = $300
if I buy this phone:
But it from Amazon ($150) and transfer my number (free) = $150
The numbers say it all. I will get this phone . Plus, I want a nexus 7, so I need to save as much money as I can. I will wait until next year to get my upgrade to the gnex
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I come this morning a little confused and frustrated, since my gf doesn't understand what I'm talking about, maybe the online community will. I like many others brought the Samsung Galaxy S6 on April 10th. Its a beautiful phone, amazing build quality and specs and for the most part I love it. Now I don't know where to aim my frustration towards whether its Samsung or Verizon but why can't we have the same features like the international version of our phones...why is it that these carriers (I'm pointing at Verizon now cause that's who I currently empty my pockets to) always dictating what apps can come preinstalled on our phones and removing things that we were told are cool new features. For example, where's the stock samsung browser? With the fingerprint login? How about the smart manager for checking ram, CPU and such? Where's the Microsoft apps that Samsung have teamed up with so we can get 100GB of online storage through the one drive app? We see them do this year after year, I know the community usually roots phones (if possible) and find ways around this but why should the average person have to go through all this hassle?
I concur, I'm pissed, what can ya do about it, straight abuse of power.
I agree, I absolutely HATE Verizon for what they do, locking down phones, preventing root and keeping us who like it unable to have it, bloating phones and making them use what would normally be unallocated RAM and forcing you to keep them, etc. F*** you to Verizon, I want the S6 and I have it but I can't stand the bloat & the lack of root or an unlocked bootloader, though I am fine with a locked bootloader for the time being as I have my M8 for that, I would seriously like root just to know that I HAVE CONTROL, not THEM. God I hate Verizon, so much honestly I hope they fail as a company and T-Mobile buys all their towers here. F them.
- Angry Rant Over.
Yeah it just sucks. You get pumped up about a phone and all it can do just to find out some of its features are removed... And for no good reason I might add
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Yeah it just sucks. You get pumped up about a phone and all it can do just to find out some of its features are removed... And for no good reason I might add
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Of course there's a good reason!! Verizon would hate for you to use 100GB of free online storage instead of paying a monthly fee for their Verizon Cloud storage.
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Of course there's a good reason!! Verizon would hate for you to use 100GB of free online storage instead of paying a monthly fee for their Verizon Cloud storage.
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...:banghead: who's side are you on
lol jk, I'm pretty pissed about the missing stuff too but not the drive storage since I already got 130 gb of one drive storage free from some other deal that's only 15 gb being used right now.
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2015/04/14/samsung-galaxy-s6-att-verizon/
^^ made me like that guy more
Hey at least VZW released the nexus 6 for those that want a unlocked bootloader.
Looks like the one drive app works
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3086465
I remember seeing this the other day and something about the verbiage in the initial discovery made me think Samsung/Microsoft pushed it manually from their end, bypassing Verizon and AT&T's silliness.
Yeah I think so too cause it definitely wasn't working when the phone first launched
I just wish they would have left aosp browser. Chrome performs like garbage on this device. The lag and stuttering is killing me.
Installed adguard and its significantly improved my chrome performance.
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I come this morning a little confused and frustrated, since my gf doesn't understand what I'm talking about, maybe the online community will. I like many others brought the Samsung Galaxy S6 on April 10th. Its a beautiful phone, amazing build quality and specs and for the most part I love it. Now I don't know where to aim my frustration towards whether its Samsung or Verizon but why can't we have the same features like the international version of our phones...why is it that these carriers (I'm pointing at Verizon now cause that's who I currently empty my pockets to) always dictating what apps can come preinstalled on our phones and removing things that we were told are cool new features. For example, where's the stock samsung browser? With the fingerprint login? How about the smart manager for checking ram, CPU and such? Where's the Microsoft apps that Samsung have teamed up with so we can get 100GB of online storage through the one drive app? We see them do this year after year, I know the community usually roots phones (if possible) and find ways around this but why should the average person have to go through all this hassle?
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These ears heard you and understood my friend... hope you feel a little lighter since offloading the frustration. I'm here doing the same (maybe XDA should consider opening a "48hr New Device and Carrier Disappointment Support Thread").
Fortunately, I'm inside the 14 day return window and the phone will be sent on it's way back to Verizon tomorrow.
The S6 is a beautiful piece of hardware aesthetically... build quality is second-to-none but I'm nonetheless disappointed at the departure from function to form.
I started typing a big rant but I'm just going to summarise my negativity;
Glass on the back - form over function need I say more... well yes, if only to vent my frustration. The phone in naked form is bloody slippery and I there's not a single practical reason why Samsung would do this. I'm convinced this is purely a money grabbing move; make it more like the iPhone (yes it does look nice) and secure more sales from broken phones.
Removal of the SD card slot... FU Samsung - you've let down an avid supporter and I feel you're no better than Apple anymore (and FU Apple... just for good measure).
Verizon... FU for locking down and screwing with Android et al. Actually FU for everything you do. CDMA being the biggest contributer, bloatware and restrictions the next.
I figure $35 is a bargain for such a life lesson... eBay HTC M8 here I come.
I hear what your saying man. It sucks big time
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These ears heard you and understood my friend... hope you feel a little lighter since offloading the frustration. I'm here doing the same
Glass on the back - form over function need I say more... well yes, if only to vent my frustration. The phone in naked form is bloody slippery and I there's not a single practical reason why Samsung would do this. I'm convinced this is purely a money grabbing move; make it more like the iPhone (yes it does look nice) and secure more sales from broken phones.
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One of the big complaints about the Galaxy S phones was that they looked cheap for flagship phones because of the plastic. Almost all the online reviewers and many users on the various forums made a big stink about the plastic. Like the saying goes, be careful what you wish for. I have a S4 and I am perfectly OK with the plastic body. Besides most people put their phones in cases anyway and the only thing you mainly see is the screen. I came very close to buying the S6 but decided against it mainly because of the lack of memory expansion and removable battery. I'll probably leave Samsung for my next phone. FWIW, there is a Youtube video where a guy drops a S6 Edge on cement from 10 feet high and the glass didn't crack.
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One of the big complaints about the Galaxy S phones was that they looked cheap for flagship phones because of the plastic. Almost all the online reviewers and many users on the various forums made a big stink about the plastic. Like the saying goes, be careful what you wish for. I have a S4 and I am perfectly OK with the plastic body. Besides most people put their phones in cases anyway and the only thing you mainly see is the screen. I came very close to buying the S6 but decided against it mainly because of the lack of memory expansion and removable battery. I'll probably leave Samsung for my next phone. FWIW, there is a Youtube video where a guy drops a S6 Edge on cement from 10 feet high and the glass didn't crack.
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Oh yes, I've also never had an issue with the use of a plastic back nor wished they'd move to glass.
Evidence of that is my upgrade path over the years;
Touch Diamond
Touch HD
S (original)
iPhone 4 (yes, a shameful 3 month period in my life when I went against my own better judgement and allowed myself to be swayed by the hype)
S2
S3
Note
Note 2
S6
One M8 (and thus the end of my era with Samsung)
So disappointed...
So has anyone found a way to get the stock Samsung browser yet? It's performance is so much better than chrome that it's a shame we're stuck without it.
Can't we just install an extracted version from one of the other variants? I saw ported versions for s5 but they required root as they installed to system. Maybe on the s6 it won't need it since it's originally made for it? I'm gonna look around and try some but if anyone finds something that works please post about it.
Sent from my Verizon S6
I to was not happy that Samsung moved to a glass back and no SD card, removable battery I can live without. I picked up the S6 any way, I was paying 29 a month on the Edge plan for a 32 Gig M8 and I had a 32 Gig SD card, well the 64 Gig S6 is the same 29 a month so I am OK with no SD and 64 Gig of internal storage. So far I am loving the S6.
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I to was not happy that Samsung moved to a glass back and no SD card, removable battery I can live without. I picked up the S6 any way, I was paying 29 a month on the Edge plan for a 32 Gig M8 and I had a 32 Gig SD card, well the 64 Gig S6 is the same 29 a month so I am OK with no SD and 64 Gig of internal storage. So far I am loving the S6.
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Loving mine too. Can't see a phone replacing this one until the Note 5 comes out.
https://www.tomsguide.com/news/sams...46294c8b77c&lctg=11155348&M_BT=62222618014014
Probably not the end of the Note series. Don't expect to see one in 2022 though. Samsung has always been goofy... this year has been a disaster for Samsung and the Android OS.
Between Samsung and Google dropping the ball, I said screw this and will be getting my second new 10+ N975U tomorrow. Zero learning curve means I get to have fun with it instead of troubleshooting it.
In my opinion Pie and the 10+ are still the zenith of both Android and the Samsung Note series.
Fast, drop dead gorgeous, rock solid stable with very little maintenance. So far I have replaced the battery on my heavy used current 10+ and the OS load is over a year old. 8-12 hours of SOT.
The build quality on the 10+ is excellent; it still looks and runs like new.
Good as it gets
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Fast, drop dead gorgeous, rock solid stable with very little maintenance. So far I have replaced the battery on my heavy used current 10+ and the OS load is over a year old. 8-12 hours of SOT.
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How do you replace the battery? Do you have a cell phone repair store do it? (I assume they are not user replaceable)
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How do you replace the battery? Do you have a cell phone repair store do it? (I assume they are not user replaceable)
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I saw it done and learned from that. Not that hard if you know how to do it and take your time.
You need the battery, OEM rear cover seal, various picks, drivers, heat plate or gun, anhydrous isopropyl alcohol/syringe.
Cannot say whether it is really dead or not. Samsung has been diminishing the series with various features being implemented into the Galaxy series.
I may not use it much, but I like have the S-pen integrated in the phone. I use cheap cases with my Notes, that do not have external slots for the pen.
My biggest issue is the recent lost of the micro SD card slot. Forever reason, my cell service carrier does not offer multiple memory options; usually the smallest. I also did not like when removable batteries were lost. People keep buying them nonetheless.
I think the Note may be a victim of too many versions. The Series has everything the Note does, except the S-pen bay. Some slight difference is shape. They also offer more affordable models that work for my others with less features than the Note or Series. My guess is that the Note was not hitting sales targets well enough.
It's possible they may create a new model series that replaces the Note. May offer a Series version that does include the things that made Note popular.
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Cannot say whether it is really dead or not. Samsung has been diminishing the series with various features being implemented into the Galaxy series.
I may not use it much, but I like have the S-pen integrated in the phone. I use cheap cases with my Notes, that do not have external slots for the pen.
My biggest issue is the recent lost of the micro SD card slot. Forever reason, my cell service carrier does not offer multiple memory options; usually the smallest. I also did not like when removable batteries were lost. People keep buying them nonetheless.
I think the Note may be a victim of too many versions. The Series has everything the Note does, except the S-pen bay. Some slight difference is shape. They also offer more affordable models that work for my others with less features than the Note or Series. My guess is that the Note was not hitting sales targets well enough.
It's possible they may create a new model series that replaces the Note. May offer a Series version that does include the things that made Note popular.
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The S2x and Note should be merged. For example, make the S22 Ultra have a slot for the S-Pen
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The S2x and Note should be merged. For example, make the S22 Ultra have a slot for the S-Pen
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Stupid Samsung. The Note was always a flagship power user device. The marketing morons thought they could expand it's appeal by down playing that. A big phone with lots of bells and whistles for everyone.
Now even the customers are confused and want Samsung to jam a spen into every Samsung. Let the spen orgy begin
I just got my second 10+ so both Samsung and Android can fk off. That will hold me over for another 2-3 years so I don't care how badly they screw up.
Of course that doesn't sell phones... actions have consequences.
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Stupid Samsung. The Note was always a flagship power user device. The marketing morons thought they could expand it's appeal by down playing that. A big phone with lots of bells and whistles for everyone.
Now even the customers are confused and want Samsung to jam a spen into every Samsung. Let the spen orgy begin
I just got my second 10+ so both Samsung and Android can fk off. That will hold me over for another 2-3 years so I don't care how badly they screw up.
Of course that doesn't sell phones... actions have consequences.
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I'm obsessed right now with getting TMB csc on my N20 Ultra. Its not working . Trying to get help in multiple threads. I might just return it as I bought it this week and have not sent in my s20 trade in yet. I think they blocked it.
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The S2x and Note should be merged. For example, make the S22 Ultra have a slot for the S-Pen
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I don't disagree with you. When S series was originally released, it was a powerful phone like the Note, but was a little smaller and no S-pen. There would were other differences, but it was more because hardware had advanced. When Samsung started doing to multiple versions of S-series and Note, it basically diminished both.
As someone who's been using a Note since the Note 2, I admitted to being biased. I do not have a really an issue with having an S pen usable on a S-series phone. But Samsung made it an accessory to buy. I think that's kind of nickle and dime kind of thing out of the customers.
If Samsung made the "Note" the S-series Ultra with a pen slot and pin. I'd be ok with it.
On a side note, I really hope they bring back sd card slot. I also hope they'll bring back magnetic secure transmission (MST). I use it a lot. Between that and NFC, I rarely need to use my physical credit card. At some point, almost all stores will use some kind of NFC, but the USA is nowhere near it yet.
Personally, I hope they don't make the Z-fold their main flagship and decided to put the S-pen with it. I think the phone is pretty cool and interesting, but I really don't want a phone like that. I see the folding as a risk for breakage. I rather have a large candy bar.
For now, I'll keep using the Note 20 Ultra. Not sure what I'll do with the battery goes bad or my lease ends. I may buy the phone. Who knows what Samsung will have going when either of those situations occur.
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I'm obsessed right now with getting TMB csc on my N20 Ultra. Its not working . Trying to get help in multiple threads. I might just return it as I bought it this week and have not sent in my s20 trade in yet. I think they blocked it.
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I'm a bit obsessed now too because my new 10+ came today loaded with Android 10 rather than 9.
What should have been a easy seamless switch going between them is now a lame tap dance.
I was looking at the N20 U's and see how your problem could easily happen. Too many variants and the sellers are deliberately not posting full specs. One of the reasons I rejected the 20U.
I know where you can pick up a new 10+ N975U1 for $800 free 2 day shipping stateside. Lol, it's going to be running on Android 10 though. No connection issues; my AT&T sim card brought it straight online.
Many sellers are doing screwball things with the 10+'s too.
Meh... I would send the 20U back for a full refund. There may be more rude surprises.
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I don't disagree with you. When S series was originally released, it was a powerful phone like the Note, but was a little smaller and no S-pen. There would were other differences, but it was more because hardware had advanced. When Samsung started doing to multiple versions of S-series and Note, it basically diminished both.
As someone who's been using a Note since the Note 2, I admitted to being biased. I do not have a really an issue with having an S pen usable on a S-series phone. But Samsung made it an accessory to buy. I think that's kind of nickle and dime kind of thing out of the customers.
If Samsung made the "Note" the S-series Ultra with a pen slot and pin. I'd be ok with it.
On a side note, I really hope they bring back sd card slot. I also hope they'll bring back magnetic secure transmission (MST). I use it a lot. Between that and NFC, I rarely need to use my physical credit card. At some point, almost all stores will use some kind of NFC, but the USA is nowhere near it yet.
Personally, I hope they don't make the Z-fold their main flagship and decided to put the S-pen with it. I think the phone is pretty cool and interesting, but I really don't want a phone like that. I see the folding as a risk for breakage. I rather have a large candy bar.
For now, I'll keep using the Note 20 Ultra. Not sure what I'll do with the battery goes bad or my lease ends. I may buy the phone. Who knows what Samsung will have going when either of those situations occur.
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Exactly , the S22 Standard, FE (if there is one) and Plus should not have S-Pen, but if just the Ultra had it and had a slot it would be king of the castle.
I agree about the Fold3 , it also does not have a slot.
Unfortunately I don't think microSD slot is coming back, its gone the way of the IR Blaster I miss from the s6
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... Unfortunately I don't think microSD slot is coming back, its gone the way of the IR Blaster I miss from the s6
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I agree about the SD card slot. All the more reason to get people to buy/subscribe into cloud storage systems.
I forgot about the IR blaster. I did not use it much on my Note4, but I did like it. That could still be useful today. Many media appliances have some kind of app or internet interface, so it's usefulness becomes more diminished by the year.
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Unfortunately I don't think microSD slot is coming back, its gone the way of the IR Blaster I miss from the s6
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Samsung is feeling the heat. 2021 is a bust for Samsung as far as phone sales go.
They have no one to blame but themselves.
With no SD card slot the phone is dead to me.
I'm adding a 1tb v30 card to my second N10+.
I can fill that, no problem as I actually need 2-3tb of data storage. Even 500gb of internal storage barely meets my minimum needs.
May take a year or two but Samsung will likely bring the SD card slot back as has happen so many times in the past. Cloud storage is no substitute for onboard memory; it wastes battery and bandwidth.
Samsung's ineptness has cost them at least one newly released flagship phone with me, probably two or more by the time it's all said and done.
I can do fine for at least 2-3 more years running the 10+'s.
I don't care...
blackhawk said:
Samsung is feeling the heat. 2021 is a bust for Samsung as far as phone sales go.
They have no one to blame but themselves.
With no SD card slot the phone is dead to me.
I'm adding a 1tb v30 card to my second N10+.
I can fill that, no problem as I actually need 2-3tb of data storage. Even 500gb of internal storage barely meets my minimum needs.
May take a year or two but Samsung will likely bring the SD card slot back as has happen so many times in the past. Cloud storage is no substitute for onboard memory; it wastes battery and bandwidth.
Samsung's ineptness has cost them at least one newly released flagship phone with me, probably two or more by the time it's all said and done.
I can do fine for at least 2-3 more years running the 10+'s.
I don't care...
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I never use that much memory - you load it with 4k movies?
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I never use that much memory - you load it with 4k movies?
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221gb in wav files alone, lol my CD/HDCD collection in my pocket. My photos are around 1+tb. Data files are around 100gb.
Movies are still the minority simply because I haven't ripped them to hdd.
As far as I'm concerned you can never have enough backup copies...
My actual 10+ app load is deliberately light. Zero social media apps. .
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Samsung is expected to reveal the Galaxy S22 range at Unpacked on 8 February, with the Galaxy S22, Galaxy S22 Plus, and Galaxy S22 Ultra all heavily rumored.
Whilst not yet official, we have heard plenty about the Galaxy S22 Ultra over the last few months. Here is how it is expected to compare to its predecessor - the Galaxy S21 Ultra - based on speculation.
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Differences. Just off the top of my head,
- Integrated S-Pen
- Better Screen
- Better CPU/GPU
- Better Camera (Software & Hardware)
- More OS Updates
- Likely Better Battery Life
- Likely Faster Internal Memory
- Much better design with no camera island
- Probably much more updates that I can't think of
With all that said, if I had the S21 Ultra, I would not be upgrading. I have the Note 9 and will be upgrading on launch day. S22 Ultra 512 Baby.
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Differences. Just off the top of my head,
- Integrated S-Pen
- Better Screen
- Better CPU/GPU
- Better Camera (Software & Hardware)
- More OS Updates
- Likely Better Battery Life
- Likely Faster Internal Memory
- Much better design with no camera island
- Probably much more updates that I can't think of
With all that said, if I had the S21 Ultra, I would not be upgrading. I have the Note 9 and will be upgrading on launch day. S22 Ultra 512 Baby.
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Rounded display corners, again? YUCK!!!
No SD card slot, right? Overpriced .5tb max storage capacity single drive don't cut it.
Likely more of the same variable rate display color rendering issues.
Different smartphone, many of the same mistakes.
Not seeing anything that make me want to ditch my N10+'s...
I would wait at least 6 months after release rather than risk suffering buyer's remorse with this puppy. Samsung's been on a losing streak with their flagship phones since the N10+.
Playing with the name and rebranding isn't going to help Sammy... nothing innovative to see here.
At least they ditch the hump... but still has the cam hole in a lame rounded corner display. blah!
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Rounded display corners, again? YUCK!!!
No SD card slot, right? Overpriced .5tb max storage capacity single drive don't cut it.
Likely more of the same variable rate display color rendering issues.
Different smartphone, many of the same mistakes.
Not seeing anything that make me want to ditch my N10+'s...
I would wait at least 6 months after release rather than risk suffering buyer's remorse with this puppy. Samsung's been on a losing streak with their flagship phones since the N10+.
Playing with the name and rebranding isn't going to help Sammy... nothing innovative to see here.
At least they ditch the hump... but still has the cam hole in a lame rounded corner display. blah!
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Yikes, I'm sorry you feel disappointed with the new model. To be honest, if I had the Note 10+ I would probably wait another year and get the S23 Ultra. I've waited long enough for a new phone and while my Note 9 is just as fast and snappy as the day I bought it (on launch) The cameras are one of the main reason for my upgrade. Considering all my previous Samsung purchases were awesome , other than the the Note 7 which they figured out, ( Galaxy S1, Note 2, Note 4, Note 7, S7E, Note 9), I'll be getting the 512 on launch day.
I currently use the Note 9 128 with my 256GB and I take 4K 60 videos quite a bit and has been fine storage wise so the 512 which is more, should more than suffice. I usually upload to my PC once every two to three months. Cheers!
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Yikes, I'm sorry you feel disappointed with the new model. To be honest, if I had the Note 10+ I would probably wait another year and get the S23 Ultra. I've waited long enough for a new phone and while my Note 9 is just as fast and snappy as the day I bought it (on launch) The cameras are one of the main reason for my upgrade. Considering all my previous Samsung purchases were awesome , other than the the Note 7 which they figured out, ( Galaxy S1, Note 2, Note 4, Note 7, S7E, Note 9), I'll be getting the 512 on launch day.
I currently use the Note 9 128 with my 256GB and I take 4K 60 videos quite a bit and has been fine storage wise so the 512 which is more, should more than suffice. I usually upload to my PC once every two to three months. Cheers!
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With a N10+ or a N20U you could have over 1tb and a dual drive at that... at a much reduced price. Those are my two recommendations.
Get a Snapdragon and 12gb of ram. 256gb of internal memory is fine, only apps, the DCIM and Download folders should go there anyway. All critical data goes on the data drive ie SD card; a V30 rated Sandisk works well.
Apparently the S22's cams aren't a big improvement over the S21's. To be blunt the N10+'s cams are very good and it has a display that faithfully reproduces them.
I wish I could say Samsung slam dunked it with the S22, but it appears they didn't. So far they are living up to my dire prediction from a few months ago; 2022 is going to be another bad year for Sammy flagships.
I'm less than pleased with Android 11 and 12; they smell like Vista style road kill to me. Since the introduction of variable rate displays the color rendering index has dropped and there are a lot of outright failures and not just Samsung.
The above are 2 reasons I bought a second N10+ running on Q. I have 2 now.
The older one has held up so well that they are hard to tell apart. Zero display degradation is observable and the only repair has been a replacement battery. They are fast, stable, and just plain fun to use. The display is still the best 60hz displays ever produced for a smartphone exceeding Apple's specs as well. It's drop dead gorgeous... with square corners. A good case and plastic screen protector are mandatory for these phones or they will get messed up.
I like to have the faster memory and spen but 5G isn't needed. The N10+ is snappy even with the slower processor and ram. 12gb of ram go a long way to keeping it fast.
I get 8-12 hr SOT so little to gain there. My ancient freeware WPS office runs ok on Android 9/10 but wouldn't on 11/12. That's impossible to replace for free now and it's a valuable app I use constantly.
On top of all that I have a trusted vendor that had new sealed box N10+'s; there's a lot of shenanigans going on with the N20U sales as well as the price. After almost 2.5 years* with the N10+ I like it even more today... so I got a backup with the intention of bypassing both Samsung and Adroid OS upgrades for 2-3 more years.
That was my solution after a lot of research...
*my current OS load will be 2 yo in June. Still fast, stable with minimal maintenance and no upgrades. It's stability impresses me.
It fulfills its mission. I place a very high value on these qualities.
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With a N10+ or a N20U you could have over 1tb and a dual drive at that... at a much reduced price. Those are my two recommendations.
Get a Snapdragon and 12gb of ram. 256gb of internal memory is fine, only apps, the DCIM and Download folders should go there anyway. All critical data goes on the data drive ie SD card; a V30 rated Sandisk works well.
Apparently the S22's cams aren't a big improvement over the S21's. To be blunt the N10+'s cams are very good and it has a display that faithfully reproduces them.
I wish I could say Samsung slam dunked it with the S22, but it appears they didn't. So far they are living up to my dire prediction from a few months ago; 2022 is going to be another bad year for Sammy flagships.
I'm less than pleased with Android 11 and 12; they smell like Vista style road kill to me. Since the introduction of variable rate displays the color rendering index has dropped and there are a lot of outright failures and not just Samsung.
The above are 2 reasons I bought a second N10+ running on Q. I have 2 now.
The older one has held up so well that they are hard to tell apart. Zero display degradation is observable and the only repair has been a replacement battery. They are fast, stable, and just plain fun to use. The display is still the best 60hz displays ever produced for a smartphone exceeding Apple's specs as well. It's drop dead gorgeous... with square corners. A good case and plastic screen protector are mandatory for these phones or they will get messed up.
I like to have the faster memory and spen but 5G isn't needed. The N10+ is snappy even with the slower processor and ram. 12gb of ram go a long way to keeping it fast.
I get 8-12 hr SOT so little to gain there. My ancient freeware WPS office runs ok on Android 9/10 but wouldn't on 11/12. That's impossible to replace for free now and it's a valuable app I use constantly.
On top of all that I have a trusted vendor that had new sealed box N10+'s; there's a lot of shenanigans going on with the N20U sales as well as the price. After almost 2.5 years* with the N10+ I like it even more today... so I got a backup with the intention of bypassing both Samsung and Adroid OS upgrades for 2-3 more years.
That was my solution after a lot of research...
*my current OS load will be 2 yo in June. Still fast, stable with minimal maintenance and no upgrades. It's stability impresses me.
It fulfills its mission. I place a very high value on these qualities.
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I do understand your frustration with the SD cards but let's be real here. It's been gone from their top end phones for a while now. Just like the headphone jack, I doubt it's coming back. We need to move on. With that said, I'd love for it to come back as I have a Samsung256GB card I'd like to continue to use. I've used that card for more than 4 years without any issues.
I'm glad you really like your Note 10+ Similar to how I like my Note 9. If I had the Note 10+ I doubt I'd be upgrading either. At least for another year. Reason being, I want a 3 camera setup and the 10+ already has that. The main reason for my upgrade as I've said are for the cameras. I absolutely agree they're not going to be drastically better. But that's okay. It's better and definitely better than my Note 9. At this point, most top end phones take stellar photos and it's hard to come up with technology that drastically improves on it. Baby steps.
For this reason, I don't recommend people upgrade every 2 years, much less every year. Phones are getting so nice that we don't need to upgrade them as much as we used to. I started with the Dream G1 lol, then Galaxy S1 etc as mentioned above. I used to upgrade every two years but with the Note 9, I'm already over 3 years. With the S22 Ultra 512, I should be able to keep it for at least 4 years. Good luck to you my friend. Cheers.
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I do understand your frustration with the SD cards but let's be real here. It's been gone from their top end phones for a while now. Just like the headphone jack, I doubt it's coming back. We need to move on. With that said, I'd love for it to come back as I have a Samsung256GB card I'd like to continue to use. I've used that card for more than 4 years without any issues.
I'm glad you really like your Note 10+ Similar to how I like my Note 9. If I had the Note 10+ I doubt I'd be upgrading either. At least for another year. Reason being, I want a 3 camera setup and the 10+ already has that. The main reason for my upgrade as I've said are for the cameras. I absolutely agree they're not going to be drastically better. But that's okay. It's better and definitely better than my Note 9. At this point, most top end phones take stellar photos and it's hard to come up with technology that drastically improves on it. Baby steps.
For this reason, I don't recommend people upgrade every 2 years, much less every year. Phones are getting so nice that we don't need to upgrade them as much as we used to. I started with the Dream G1 lol, then Galaxy S1 etc as mentioned above. I used to upgrade every two years but with the Note 9, I'm already over 3 years. With the S22 Ultra 512, I should be able to keep it for at least 4 years. Good luck to you my friend. Cheers.
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Samsung have been doing this with SD cards on/off since at least 2015. It been a little over a year, give them 2 years to come to their senses.
Samsung bite off more than they could chew with the Fold and there's collateral damage from that effecting their other products.
Samsung never was the most stable corporate creature... but abandoning their power users is a mistake. Too much hype and not enough balls will end badly for them. They are back sliding now on innovation (the Fold was a big mistake). Still the display cam hole and no new high performance batteries that their competitors have been fielding. This will take some time; the rabid box of gerbils has more spacial disorientation than usual
I'm not sure If I'm with you on all that. I think they are doing great as a company and as a side note, they actually won, again, the most innovative company of the year award 2021. Not too surprising as Samsung is a defacto global leader in screen technology, TVs, batteries, and chip design.
I think they're doing a great job leading the field when they debuted the Fold series. I personally would've gotten it if it was employing their ultra level cameras. Another reason I didn't go for it was I'm going to give it some time to thin out.
I dont think you fully understand the size and scope and vision of Samsung when you mention that they are unstable. They are far from being an unstable company. I'd like to reiterate, their phones are fine and doing great. For the most part, they are advancing their phones with each generation. Like a lot of folks, I do wish they kept the SD card, but I'm over that issue. No one really comes close in terms of hardware or software in my humble but accurate opinion.
This post sounds like a paid ad from Samsung lol. But hey, I like to give credit where its due. I like Apple products too but for different reasons.
Xiaomi uses graphene to reduce the battery's internal resistance. Li charging is an endothermic reaction. However the plate and conductors (aluminum & copper) produce a lot of waste heat because of resistance to the high current flow at low voltage. They use even more ingenious methods to decrease charging time.
That's practical innovation.
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blackhawk said:
Xiaomi uses graphene to reduce the battery's internal resistance. Li charging is an endothermic reaction. However the plate and conductors (aluminum & copper) produce a lot of waste heat because of resistance to the high current flow at low voltage. They use even more ingenious methods to decrease charging time.
That's practical innovation.
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The only thing is, it has one major issue. The battery degradation is absolutely unacceptable to most people as it will lose around half capacity after a year. Until battery degradation is improved upon, most companies will hold off on it. Samsung has been working on this for as long as I remember and will release it when it's ready. Not saying they stole the technology but sort of reminds me when BOE stole Samsung's folding tech and released Huawei's first foldable. We all know how that went. Besides all of that, I personally do my best to buy electronics designed by US, Korea, Japan. Unfortunately, China is not on that list for obvious reasons.
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The only thing is, it has one major issue. The battery degradation is absolutely unacceptable to most people as it will lose around half capacity after a year. Until battery degradation is improved upon, most companies will hold off on it. Samsung has been working on this for as long as I remember and will release it when it's ready. Not saying they stole the technology but sort of reminds me when BOE stole Samsung's folding tech and released Huawei's first foldable. We all know how that went. Besides all of that, I personally do my best to buy electronics designed by US, Korea, Japan. Unfortunately, China is not on that list for obvious reasons.
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It's up to the user. You don't have to charge them as fast or full as possible.
On a heavy used phone the battery life for standard Li is about a year or so. That's all I expect on my N10+'s.
The idea the battery will last the life of the phone was tossed out the window from the start.
Of course they would wuv you to buy a new phone every year
blackhawk said:
Rounded display corners, again? YUCK!!!
No SD card slot, right? Overpriced .5tb max storage capacity single drive don't cut it.
Likely more of the same variable rate display color rendering issues.
Different smartphone, many of the same mistakes.
Not seeing anything that make me want to ditch my N10+'s...
I would wait at least 6 months after release rather than risk suffering buyer's remorse with this puppy. Samsung's been on a losing streak with their flagship phones since the N10+.
Playing with the name and rebranding isn't going to help Sammy... nothing innovative to see here.
At least they ditch the hump... but still has the cam hole in a lame rounded corner display. blah!
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Glad you are happy with your N10+. Dissing something that hasn't been released yet is silly.
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Differences. Just off the top of my head,
- Integrated S-Pen
- Better Screen
- Better CPU/GPU
- Better Camera (Software & Hardware)
- More OS Updates
- Likely Better Battery Life
- Likely Faster Internal Memory
- Much better design with no camera island
- Probably much more updates that I can't think of
With all that said, if I had the S21 Ultra, I would not be upgrading. I have the Note 9 and will be upgrading on launch day. S22 Ultra 512 Baby.
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Sold my S20+ after ordering a Pixel 6 Pro. The S20+ sold in 2 days. I'm still waiting for the 6 Pro that was ordered on Jan 1 and is now looking like a Mar 2-3 delivery.
I think I'll be following you in ordering the S22 Ultra 512 1TB on launch day.
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Glad you are happy with your N10+. Dissing something that hasn't been released yet is silly.
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The S22U is looking more like raw deal by the week... wait till you see the 512gb price tag
A .5tb V30 card goes for $75.
Will they have a 1tb variant?
Because there will be higher demand for larger storage capacity and no way to supplement it, expect shortages as well.
My second N10+ is 256 vs 512gb but has 12gb of ram. The extra internal storage isn't really needed. I'll likely use a 1tb* SD card with it though. Apps, the DCIM and download folders are the only user items that should be on internal memory. Typically my internal memory usage is around 140gb as such.
*on the PC my data hdd minimum is 2gb
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The S22U is looking more like raw deal by the week... wait till you see the 512gb price tag
A .5tb V30 card goes for $75.
Will they have a 1tb variant?
Because there will be higher demand for larger storage capacity and no way to supplement it, expect shortages as well.
My second N10+ is 256 vs 512gb but has 12gb of ram. The extra internal storage isn't really needed. I'll likely use a 1tb* SD card with it though. Apps, the DCIM and download folders are the only user items that should be on internal memory. Typically my internal memory usage is around 140gb as such.
*on the PC my data hdd minimum is 2gb
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People come here looking for some enthusiastic conversation about a phone they are looking forward to buying. The phone won't be available for another month so what's up with all the gloom and doom? If it isn't for you, don't buy it. Trashing a phone that isn't for sale yet just makes bad vibes here.
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The S22U is looking more like raw deal by the week... wait till you see the 512gb price tag
A .5tb V30 card goes for $75.
Will they have a 1tb variant?
Because there will be higher demand for larger storage capacity and no way to supplement it, expect shortages as well.
My second N10+ is 256 vs 512gb but has 12gb of ram. The extra internal storage isn't really needed. I'll likely use a 1tb* SD card with it though. Apps, the DCIM and download folders are the only user items that should be on internal memory. Typically my internal memory usage is around 140gb as such.
*on the PC my data hdd minimum is 2gb
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We get it. You love your Note 10+ but let's keep things professional my friend. Yes, it's not going to be cheap. But keep in mind there is a market for these devices. A huge market.
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People come here looking for some enthusiastic conversation about a phone they are looking forward to buying. The phone won't be available for another month so what's up with all the gloom and doom? If it isn't for you, don't buy it. Trashing a phone that isn't for sale yet just makes bad vibes here.
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Time will tell, but better you than me victim buyer.
I'd wait until September to buy but really I think 2022 will be another lackluster year for Google Adroid and their little Apple sidekick Samsung.
2023-4 might see something worth grabbing.
I was saying that over 4 months ago.
The vibes will be worse if you realize I was correct
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We get it. You love your Note 10+ but let's keep things professional my friend. Yes, it's not going to be cheap. But keep in mind there is a market for these devices. A huge market.
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Jacking up prices during a global economic downturn may not work out so well.
Huge internal size memories will do what they have in the past, cause shortages, people not getting what they due unavailability and causing even higher prices due to demand.
That silly little SD card slot is an equalizer for the savvy consumer. With it even 128gb internal memory is sufficient if you have 12-16gb of ram.
Without it even 512gb isn't enough... so you're forever watching how you load, download or wasting battery on cloud services. Far less wiggle room with a real big price tag, yeah perfect.
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Jacking up prices during a global economic downturn may not work out so well.
Huge internal size memories will do what they have in the past, cause shortages, people not getting what they due unavailability and causing even higher prices due to demand.
That silly little SD card slot is an equalizer for the savvy consumer. With it even 128gb internal memory is sufficient if you have 12-16gb of ram.
Without it even 512gb isn't enough... so you're forever watching how you load, download or wasting battery on cloud services. Far less wiggle room with a real big price tag, yeah perfect.
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No one is artificially jacking up prices. You said it yourself... its an economic downturn. We're in a pandemic with global shortages. That's what happens to prices. Besides all that, no one even comes close to the incentives Samsung dishes out for their pre-orders.
And get over it with the SD card. No one will listen to your whines. Equalizer for savvy consumers? Lmao. With that mentality no one would've bought an iPhone. If you can't afford the new phone keep your mouth shut and stop spewing bs.
Tried to show some respect but now that it's pretty clear you're trolling, I'll respond accordingly.