i realy like the stok Android but i need the root for some applications
will i get OTA after rooting the original rom ?
(yes, i know i i have root and i get OTA i will lose the root, but this not a problem i can root agine )
TNX !
aCoZz said:
i realy like the stok Android but i need the root for some applications
will i get OTA after rooting the original rom ?
(yes, i know i i have root and i get OTA i will lose the root, but this not a problem i can root agine )
TNX !
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Yes
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no. you will not loose an ota, as long as you dont change any system files, you can receive and install an ota, with root. but you will lose root when you ota, and you will lose your custom recovery. but the moment you change a system file, any, you will get an ota, but you will not be able to apply the ota.
simms22 said:
no. you will not loose an ota, as long as you dont change any system files, you can receive and install an ota, with root. but you will lose root when you ota, and you will lose your custom recovery,
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My wrong.....
But when I root the device, I always changing system files
t-shock said:
My wrong.....
But when I root the device, I always changing system files
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me too. but there are those that dont, that just want root to use certain apps and thats all.
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If I root the latest stock 4.4.2, will I still be able to get future OTA Updates without braking the root or custom recovery, well if root gets lost I can always root it again. Just asking, maybe I won't be able to get OTA Updates at all after rooting but I don't know so that's why I'm asking it here.
KuGeL94 said:
If I root the latest stock 4.4.2, will I still be able to get future OTA Updates without braking the root or custom recovery, well if root gets lost I can always root it again. Just asking, maybe I won't be able to get OTA Updates at all after rooting but I don't know so that's why I'm asking it here.
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Yes!
SWTR said:
Yes!
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Indeed.
KuGeL94 said:
If I root the latest stock 4.4.2, will I still be able to get future OTA Updates without braking the root or custom recovery, well if root gets lost I can always root it again. Just asking, maybe I won't be able to get OTA Updates at all after rooting but I don't know so that's why I'm asking it here.
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The OTA will download but not install. You need stock recovery AND any system file that is updated by the OTA needs to be stock as well otherwise OTA install will fail.
Plenty of threads on XDA speak of this.
If you look at the OTA updater file you will see if uses MD5 (or similar) to check each system file it updates to make sure its as it was originally.
When you root it alters some system files.
Best thing is to install custom recovery and take a backup before rooted. Then root. When you get an OTA just restore backup and flash stock recovery. Then OTA will re-download. Let it install, then flash custom recovery and re-root.
Thanks, well I'll just stay unrooted and make the best out of it, the Moto G is just as amazing as Motorola developed it to be.
No stock recovery it's no need. I updated last ota with Philz recovery without problems.
denzel09 said:
No stock recovery it's no need. I updated last ota with Philz recovery without problems.
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Do you mean you downloaded OTA and flashed manually via recovery. You can do that I agree, but what you can't do is let OTA install naturally the way Motorola intended.
No. I had Philz recovery. System stock partition. Downloaded ota normally, reboot like ota update ask, phone reboots in philz recovery and this last flash ota automatically without any problem. There is not need to reflash stock recovery or flash ota update manually with custom rec, only need a non root stock system partition. I dont know if stock cwm or other rec like twrp work in same way but i doubt, always used only philz recovery.
You do not need stock recovery, I don't know who made this stupid rumour up. I use twrp and it flashes fine.
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Hello. Sorry for the silly question.
I am currently on 4.4.4 stock (XT1033) ,rooted with cwm. I have taken a backup of stock image via cwm before installing Super Su.
My question is how do I unroot the device ?
What happens when I restore stock img via cwm ? Will it unroot ?
Thanks.
Why would you want to unroot?
SbM_ said:
Why would you want to unroot?
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Just for informational purpose. Do you know how to unroot?
I seem to remember that Super SU has an option for that.
SbM_ said:
I seem to remember that Super SU has an option for that.
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Thanks.
Yes, there's an option to unroot in SuperSU, try that.
BaghiXDA said:
Yes, there's an option to unroot in SuperSU, try that.
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Hello, i was following this thread 'cause i am interested in getting the OTA update (from 4.4.4 to 5.0.1 ) . The reason is that i don't want to lose any data by flashing same firmware or new one when it will be availiable, and via OTA i would keep everything as it is now.
If i do unroot my moto g as you told before, will I be able to get the OTA update?
EDIT: I've decided to unroot via SuperSU , full and clean unroot option, and still it is uninstalling after some mins, shall I power off the moto g?
So I have an xperia update alert. Is there a way to update to the latest and retain my files as well as root access?
No. If you are on KitKat flash a pre-rooted Lollipop.
If you upgrade you can root only if you unlock the bootloader. It is the only way to root Lollipop directly.
There is no sense to upgrade, then downgrade to root. Do that now, since you are on KK.
In short : Do not upgrade officially, upgrade by flashing a pre-rooted Lollipop. You can do that even with an locked bootloader with Flashtool. Find an appropiate ftf.
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No. If you are on KitKat flash a pre-rooted Lollipop.
If you upgrade you can root only if you unlock the bootloader. It is the only way to root Lollipop directly.
There is no sense to upgrade, then downgrade to root. Do that now, since you are on KK.
In short : Do not upgrade officially, upgrade by flashing a pre-rooted Lollipop. You can do that even with an locked bootloader with Flashtool. Find an appropiate ftf.
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I'm not on KK, Im on lollipop but I believe there's a newer version to LP for the Z3. I'm on 23.1.A.0.690
What size is it? Maybe it's not a firmware update.
It's an Xperia system update I can't pull up details about it without beginning the install process
you would have to flash a pre-rooted flashable rom to retain root, ota updates generally tend to kill root
Richy99 said:
you would have to flash a pre-rooted flashable rom to retain root, ota updates generally tend to kill root
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Thanks, I've been a little out of the game when it comes to flashing and rooting. I rooted my phone about a week ago and put lollipop on it. I assumed it would be the case that i'd have to flash the updated version I just wondered about retaining my files because i've gone through a bit of trouble debloating and tweaking the phone.
you'll most likely have to go thru that process again of debloating depending on what rom you install as it will most likely put most of the stuff you have removed back into the system
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you'll most likely have to go thru that process again of debloating depending on what rom you install as it will most likely put most of the stuff you have removed back into the system
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I suppose I don't mind debating again but what can I use to make a backup of my apps and app data? to then restore once updated... are there any full proof tools?
xdayala said:
I suppose I don't mind debating again but what can I use to make a backup of my apps and app data? to then restore once updated... are there any full proof tools?
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There are loads of tools for this, probably the most well known in titanium backup
What's going on with kingroot for Xperia z3 lolipop 5.1.1? There is a date for available kingroot for this version?
No there isn't. Kingroot only supports 5.0 not 5.1 You could always flash 5.0.2, root with kingroot then flash a pre-rooted 5.1.1
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No there isn't. Kingroot only supports 5.0 not 5.1 You could always flash 5.0.2, root with kingroot then flash a pre-rooted 5.1.1
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I did it but when I updated to 5.1.1 the Root was deleted
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What's going on with kingroot for Xperia z3 lolipop 5.1.1? There is a date for available kingroot for this version?
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No date available...
I'm waiting for it too :crying:
DANIELTZ19 said:
I did it but when I updated to 5.1.1 the Root was deleted
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Did you flash a stock 5.0.2, then root with kingroot, install the latest dual recovery from PC, boot to recovery, do a complete wipe then flash a pre-rooted 5.1.1 from recovery. It should work. I tried it here, worked perfectly.
BTW make sure you put the pre-rooted 5.1.1 on your sdcard before you start so once you go into recovery to do a full wipe you don't reboot until you flash the pre-rooted 5.1..1
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Did you flash a stock 5.0.2, then root with kingroot, install the latest dual recovery from PC, boot to recovery, do a complete wipe then flash a pre-rooted 5.1.1 from recovery. It should work. I tried it here, worked perfectly.
BTW make sure you put the pre-rooted 5.1.1 on your sdcard before you start so once you go into recovery to do a full wipe you don't reboot until you flash the pre-rooted 5.1..1
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I don't install pre-rooted 5.1.1 because it needs to Recovery .. and I don't want to do a recovery in my device .... i just Burning a normal version of 5.1.1
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I don't install pre-rooted 5.1.1 because it needs to Recovery .. and I don't want to do a recovery in my device .... i just Burning a normal version of 5.1.1
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Then just delete the recovery after you have flashed the pre rooted 5.1.1. The ramdisks are in the system partition.
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Then just delete the recovery after you have flashed the pre rooted 5.1.1. The ramdisks are in the system partition.
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If I do now Recovery then it deletes all my stuff in the cell phone .. other than that it will lose my warranty and it might make my cell phone issues
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If I do now Recovery then it deletes all my stuff in the cell phone
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It should not do that if you do it properly. You only lose stuff in your phone if you unlock the bootloader and you do not need to do that. Also, making a backup of things you want to keep is always a good idea.
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.. other than that it will lose my warranty and it might make my cell phone issues
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No you will not lose warranty if you follow the locked bootloader tutorial. You do not need to unlock the bootloader to install recovery and flash a pre-rooted 5.1.1
Please take a moment to look through any of the multiple guides in the general section to see how to do this
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It should not do that if you do it properly. You only lose stuff in your phone if you unlock the bootloader and you do not need to do that. Also, making a backup of things you want to keep is always a good idea.
No you will not lose warranty if you follow the locked bootloader tutorial. You do not need to unlock the bootloader to install recovery and flash a pre-rooted 5.1.1
Please take a moment to look through any of the multiple guides in the general section to see how to do this
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Okay, thank you very much, but there will be no hacking with "Kingroot"? This is the most easy and simple ..
DANIELTZ19 said:
Okay, thank you very much, but there will be no hacking with "Kingroot"? This is the most easy and simple ..
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Kingroot will send your IMEI to an IP address in china, I do not recommend it. Downgrade and use giefroot, install dual recovery, flash a pre rooted 5.1.1, then delete the recovery if you want, but I do not see why you would do this.
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Kingroot will send your IMEI to an IP address in china, I do not recommend it. Downgrade and use giefroot, install dual recovery, flash a pre rooted 5.1.1, then delete the recovery if you want, but I do not see why you would do this.
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Because that everyone I know who did Recovery then it's destroyed a lot of things on the device ..
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Because that everyone I know who did Recovery then it's destroyed a lot of things on the device ..
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You are confusing recovery with losing drm keys when unlocking the bootloader.
I have never come across anyone who has recovery installed correctly and used correctly who has had problems like that
@DANIELTZ19
If you're worried and want another opinion then my advice is that everything GregBradley has stated is correct. His method is also the safest and reliable with an excellent tutorial in the General forum. Read it http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/general/guide-rootrecovery-how-to-root-install-t3017056
cheers
I want to edit an original ROM (A51 Stock Rom android 12) for the first time. (with linux/window)
I just want to remove/add some pre-installed apps and activate some Floating features.
My question is do I need root to install this modified ROM?
Can I install it with Odin?
Will I have any problems with Secure Folder, Knox, etc. after installation?
I don't want to root or mess with it at all, I just want a stock ROM without restrictions.
mahdi72 said:
I want to edit an original ROM (A51 Stock Rom android 12) for the first time. (with linux/window)
I just want to remove/add some pre-installed apps and activate some Floating features.
My question is do I need root to install this modified ROM?
Can I install it with Odin?
Will I have any problems with Secure Folder, Knox, etc. after installation?
I don't want to root or mess with it at all, I just want a stock ROM without restrictions.
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you need to root your device to be able to get access to the files for the flashing process
Bypassme said:
you need to root your device to be able to get access to the files for the flashing process
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hmm.... Odin needs root? i dont want to flash rom from recovery
mahdi72 said:
hmm.... Odin needs root? i don't want to flash a
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rom from recovery
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well you can do it without root but its harder
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well you can do it without root but its harder
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so I can download A51 ROM, then unpack, edit and repack it.
In the last step, flash with Odin.
Exactly which stage is difficult?
I have no problem with unpacking and repacking and I am somewhat familiar with it
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so I can download A51 ROM, then unpack, edit and repack it.
In the last step, flash with Odin.
Exactly which stage is difficult?
I have no problem with unpacking and repacking and I am somewhat familiar with it
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i have only ever rooted and hacked on a chromebook before i have never flashed any rom before the last device i flashed ended up hard bricked so im waiting to get that fixed however if you have a chromebook feel free to contact me on [email protected] and i will get back to you asp