hi, thinking of buying this phone on verizon, wanted to know if it is shipped bootloader unlocked so i can load custom roms on it and get the hotspot working.
thanks
Its not shipped unlocked but it can be via exploits, allowing to flash to your heart's content
Sunshine is the only Garanteed method at this point to unlock boot loader and acheive s-off. Firewater method may or may not work depending on hardware configuration.
The only way to get a phone with an unlocked bootloader usually, is to buy the "Developer Edition" if it's offered. Most don't even know but the Samsung Galaxy S3, and S4 both have Dev Editions, so if you really wanted an s4 that's unlocked, it's possible.
there first firsmtware of the S4 if you are lucky enough to not take an OTA and not need a refurb you have the Loki exploit which is as good as a bootloader unlock which is very rare to find in good condition, and the ones out there are way expensive.
sorry for off topic.
Basically HTC also offers, HTCDev.com to unlock bootloader within minutes of getting home with your new device, but Verizon make HTC block their phones unfortunately. But thanks to amazing developers like Beaups and Jcase you can get S-OFF. It will cost $25, but a very small price to pay for the amount of time they put into giving us this wonderful option.
without root, Id be on an iphone....
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I have a OneXL with AT&T. It came with the 2.20 firmware. I accepted the 3.18 OTA, and was stuck without root for a while (dumb, but no big deal). After the new exploit came out for 3.18, I unlocked and got S-Off, and things have been fine, I ran a few sense ROMs, settling on ViperXL 4.20.
Well, I work in a IT asset disposal warehouse where I'm a computer tech, and some of the guys in the warehouse who do inventory thought it was a good idea to steal some smartphones we get in for recycling. Enter new company rule: No cellphones in the building. If you are caught with one, you get suspended, and your phone gets confiscated while they make sure it isn't their property. So, my choices are to leave my phone at home all day, or leave it in my glove box in my car in the Texas heat in July/August. For the first week, I did not shut off the phone before leaving it in the glove box, but I do now. I started to get random shutdowns and call drops. I always make sure my phone is cooled by my A/C before using it.
I flashed the stock kernel (I had beastmode) and I flashed a fresh ROM to see if that would help. It didn't. I think there is a hardware problem with the phone that might be related to leaving it in my hot car while at work.
I decided to take my phone into AT&T as it is still under warranty, but I don't want them to see that I tampered with my bootloader. Is there anyway I can RUU to 2.20 or 3.18 and not get the "Re-Locked" message on the bootloader screen?
Is there a how-to guide for this?
Am I boned because I accepted the OTA before I unlocked/rooted?
You can run an RUU, relock the bootloader, and edit the "relocked" flag to read "locked" because you have s-off. As far as I know, at&t aren't really too worried about having ash unlocked bootloader but if you don't want to take the chance you can use the steps I outlined above.
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I've seen many reports of folks sending in phones to AT&T with unlocked bootloaders, and even custom ROMs, and still having the warranty honored. Haven't seen any reports of AT&T denying warranty service for mods.
HTC is more picky. But AT&T is more concerned with keeping you as a monthly customer, than nitting over things like unlocked bootloaders on devices.
But if you want to be safe, go back to close to stock as timmaaa suggested.
Thanks guys, I think I'll just take it in without doing anything. I dont want to mess it up trying to change things if I don't have to. I think the consensus is that they really don't mind. When I bought the phone, the salesman was required to read out a few lines from some memorandum saying that AT&T does not recommend unlocking the bootloader/rooting/modding. I started saying I wanted a nexus because it was easier to do all that with. They were out of the nexuses, so I got the One XL.
Hi.
Do every Moto G 3rd gen have the ability to unlock the bootloader? What determines if I can unlock? Will I only know when mine have arrived? (I ordered one from amazon.co.uk today, a black 16gb model without a carrier.)
(Oooops, this should probably have gone in the Q&A part of the forum)
yes, it'll be unlockable
Unless you got a carrier specific branded model (Verizon, AT&T, Sprint, or whatever), it should be unlockable via the Moto site. One thing to keep in mind is that if you go through the process on the website and accept the terms and conditions, your warranty is void... period... It doesn't matter if you actually unlock or not, once you accept the T&C your warranty is gone, so it is best to wait a week or two before unlocking the bootloader to verify there are no issues, but to be completely honest, this is the first phone I have had in a while that I have no great want want to unlock and root, and I was a flashaholic on my old Nexus 4, the stock ROM is very good.
Hi everyone,
I recently just get my new google pixel 3a from amazon,
but it seems like they send me the Verizon version of it.
The version of the phone is android 10 and I am trying to unlocked OEM under developer options in order to root my device,
but it's likely seems like there is no way that I can unlock the OEM...?
So I was wondering if anyone know the way of unlocking it or maybe there is a way that I can root without Unlocking the OEM.
Thank you!!
Skylar514 said:
Hi everyone,
I recently just get my new google pixel 3a from amazon,
but it seems like they send me the Verizon version of it.
The version of the phone is android 10 and I am trying to unlocked OEM under developer options in order to root my device,
but it's likely seems like there is no way that I can unlock the OEM...?
So I was wondering if anyone know the way of unlocking it or maybe there is a way that I can root without Unlocking the OEM.
Thank you!!
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Verizon is notorious for locking down their equipment!!! I would recommend seeing if you can return it and get the unlocked variant!
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Just a heads up if anyone happens to find this after grabbing the $200 3a from Verizon: they claim they will unlock your phone after 60 days, something on their site I confirmed with a rep. I'll update January 24 if it does or doesn't happen as I plan to root then (for me, a $200 discount was worth a two month delay).
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Just a heads up if anyone happens to find this after grabbing the $200 3a from Verizon: they claim they will unlock your phone after 60 days, something on their site I confirmed with a rep. I'll update January 24 if it does or doesn't happen as I plan to root then (for me, a $200 discount was worth a two month delay).
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Just so you are aware, the rep is talking about the SIM card lock. This is different than the bootloader unlock which is required to root your phone.
A SIM card unlock allows you to use the phone with other service providers. Most providers will lock the phone as long as you owe money on the phone. If you bought it outright or have paid the phone off, then the provider will generally SIM unlock the phone. Verizon won't even SIM card unlock the phone until it has been active for 60 days. They say this is to prevent pre-sale theft of their phones, but the policy is certainly more strict than any other provider. However do not misinterpret this to mean that Verizon will SIM unlock all phones after 60 days. If you owe money on the phone, they are not obligated to SIM card unlock it. It is possible sometimes to get the provider to SIM unlock the phone while you still owe money on the phone, but that can be hit and miss.
A bootloader unlock is needed to root the phone. Verizon is the one USA service provider that locks the bootloader of all their devices by policy. Even if a Verizon phone is SIM card unlocked, there is no guarantee that you will be able to bootloader unlock the phone or root it. Generally speaking, you should consider every Verizon phone to be bootloader locked and considering it "winning the lottery" if you are actually able to bootloader unlock it. There are times when Verizon messes up the IMEI numbers and allow phones to be unlocked, but that this just luck if it happens.
I've owned Verizon phones before that were bootloader locked and I will never buy another one. But that is my personal preference. If you have no interest in rooting your phone, then the bootloader isn't that important of an issue. But if you do want to root the phone (and it sound like you do), I would recommend that you see about returning the phone during the return period and purchasing the "Unlocked" version (the "NON-Verizon version).
Sic is correct. Verizon will only SIM unlock the phones. That was the main reason I left them back when I had to use rumrunner on my M7. Once it died and I had to get another phone, I left Verizon and never looked back. When they asked why I was leaving, I told them I might return if they ever let us unlock our bootloaders. The employee knew there was no saving me at that point.
If you want to have an unlocked bootloader, the best bet would be to have a non-carrier branded phone.
Whether you get a carrier version or the factory unlocked U1 model, OEM unlock does not exist on this phone. So those in the US that were thinking of doing custom roms with this cheap new Android device, look elsewhere.
Samsung has blocked their bootloaders on U.S. phone variants for years now. The only way to unlock is with paid service unfortunately.
ShaDisNX255 said:
Samsung has blocked their bootloaders on U.S. phone variants for years now. The only way to unlock is with paid service unfortunately.
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What service are you referring to? I'd love to unlock mine.
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What service are you referring to? I'd love to unlock mine.
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Well, it was located here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/sampwnd-usa-model-bl-unlock-info-u-u1-w.4201689/
But I guess it's temporarily closed until the person in charge returns. Usually it's not worth it for lower end phones since the unlock process can end up costing just as much as the phone tbh.
on some devices it takes 7 days for the oem unlock to show in developer options, have you tried the time and date hack to see if it shows
gav83collins said:
on some devices it takes 7 days for the oem unlock to show in developer options, have you tried the time and date hack to see if it shows
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This does not work on U.S. variants
SamPWNd is dead. Samsung patched it with firmware updates in 2021 (it is in the warnings not to install unpatched firware updates). The website is down. Unless they can find a new exploit in the new firmware, it is not possible.
Samsung has blocked BL unlock for a while. They seem to have shifted their target audience to a different group in recent years. If you really want BL unlock you should pick Pixel.
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SamPWNd is dead. Samsung patched it with firmware updates in 2021 (it is in the warnings not to install unpatched firware updates). The website is down. Unless they can find a new exploit in the new firmware, it is not possible.
Samsung has blocked BL unlock for a while. They seem to have shifted their target audience to a different group in recent years. If you really want BL unlock you should pick Pixel.
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it doesnt make sense from a business perspective, a regular audience doesnt even know about unlocking a bootloader, so they will be buying the phone regardless if samsungs advertising impress more than the competition, but for us lets say "power users" we know our warranty is void when we oem unlock, and buy making it easier to do it (oem unlock), they are more likely to shift more handsets to our side of the market, not only that but there is more chance of us breaking our devices which in turn gives them more income when we seek samsung official repairs or splash out on a new replacement, i really dont see the logic behind not allowing oem unlock unless its to test the abilities of the likes of chainfire in regards to exposing vulnerabilities
I bought the phone on sale just a few days before this thread was made (hoping to use it as a fun side-project / second phone to get back into modding- haven't been able to since my Note 5 since the Note 8 was locked). I had assumed getting a non-carrier one would be open but I haven't been able to get OEM Unlock to appear either : /. I even went with the A53 instead of A52 because I thought there was a better chance of having unlock on Exynos than Snapdragon. It's not too late to return but I'm still holding out hope someone can come up with something. I like Samsung hardware (for the most part) but without root... meh.
Willing to try ODINing tars and stuff if anyone has any ideas.
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I bought the phone on sale just a few days before this thread was made (hoping to use it as a fun side-project / second phone to get back into modding- haven't been able to since my Note 5 since the Note 8 was locked). I had assumed getting a non-carrier one would be open but I haven't been able to get OEM Unlock to appear either : /. I even went with the A53 instead of A52 because I thought there was a better chance of having unlock on Exynos than Snapdragon. It's not too late to return but I'm still holding out hope someone can come up with something. I like Samsung hardware (for the most part) but without root... meh.
Willing to try ODINing tars and stuff if anyone has any ideas.
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Exploits could take years to even begin to surface. S8 and S9 come to mind, but their root is so limited with locked bootloaders that it's almost not worth the hassle. I would return it to be honest or try and get an international variant imported. I've traveled to the U.S. with a Mexico variant phone and I got signal just fine, but I don't know how the internet speed compares if you use a U.S. SIM.
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I bought the phone on sale just a few days before this thread was made (hoping to use it as a fun side-project / second phone to get back into modding- haven't been able to since my Note 5 since the Note 8 was locked). I had assumed getting a non-carrier one would be open but I haven't been able to get OEM Unlock to appear either : /. I even went with the A53 instead of A52 because I thought there was a better chance of having unlock on Exynos than Snapdragon. It's not too late to return but I'm still holding out hope someone can come up with something. I like Samsung hardware (for the most part) but without root... meh.
Willing to try ODINing tars and stuff if anyone has any ideas.
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I switched over from Pixel line just for a Samsung specific feature and a quick google had me certain I would be able to unlock the bootloader and root it. It sucks that its not the case, but I blame awful tech journalism. So many articles that claim their method will work for ALL devices in a family, or even ALL ANDROID devices period.
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Exploits could take years to even begin to surface. S8 and S9 come to mind, but their root is so limited with locked bootloaders that it's almost not worth the hassle. I would return it to be honest or try and get an international variant imported. I've traveled to the U.S. with a Mexico variant phone and I got signal just fine, but I don't know how the internet speed compares if you use a U.S. SIM.
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Getting an international version isn't worth doing IMO because the 5G bands don't overlap the same way 4G does. I looked in to getting an international model but decided against it as it doesn't support one of the three 5G frequencies used in my town. I figure there's 0 chance of new frequencies being added to the hardware, but always a chance of finding a security flaw to unlock the bootloader.
there are still U.S. Bootloader unlock services, but as of right now the A53 is not supported.
and only certain versions of bootloaders are supported.
Not SamPWND
I'm interested in getting a 2113 to unlock (bootloader) and root. But frankly, I've had so many traumatic experiences with other models where I buy a phone and then I can't unlock it. I'm kind of afraid to try again.
So before I buy another phone, I want to make absolutely *** **** ****** ******* **** ****** certain that I can unlock it.
I'm planning to buy off eBay. What do I look for to guarantee with complete certainty that I get a phone I can unlock? I really don't want to buy another $100 paperweight.
Thank you. I'm counting on all of you.
I think XT2113-2 is unlockable, but I can't say definitively. Moto gives ATT and VZW different variants from what I've seen. Always best to contact the seller to be sure.
AT&T and Verizon phones are not unlockable. Any phone that has been previously unlocked and relocked is probably a brick, but is certainly not unlockable.
I bought a T-Mobile model. Got one that was carrier unlocked, just in case that would get in the way.
I turned on OEM unlocking.
I rebooted into the bootloader.
I ran the appropriate fastboot command.
I gave the code to Motorola, and got the unlock code from them.
I unlocked the bootloader.
I booted back up.
Oh my god, you don't know how good it feels! After all the phones that were just money down the drain, finally I get a good one that unlocks with no trouble at all! I kissed the phone, I was so happy!