Hello Friends, I have a few general queries.
What is the best method or practice to charge a cellphone battery? Should a user allow the device to completely run out of charge/power such that the device shuts down or switches off? Or should the user make it a point to charge the device once the battery level is between or depleting from 20% - 10%?
Also, does intermittent charging reduce the life span of the battery? The reason I ask this is because a cousin of mine has a habit of charging his cellphone (Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini Pro) every now and then. It does not seem to matter to him if the battery level is at 80% or 50%.
Personally, I have a Samsung Galaxy Note.
Thanking you in advance and awaiting your apt responses.
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YLNdroid said:
Hello Friends, I have a few general queries.
What is the best method or practice to charge a cellphone battery? Should a user allow the device to completely run out of charge/power such that the device shuts down or switches off? Or should the user make it a point to charge the device once the battery level is between or depleting from 20% - 10%?
Also, does intermittent charging reduce the life span of the battery? The reason I ask this is because a cousin of mine has a habit of charging his cellphone (Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini Pro) every now and then. It does not seem to matter to him if the battery level is at 80% or 50%.
Personally, I have a Samsung Galaxy Note.
Thanking you in advance and awaiting your apt responses.
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I apologise if this thread is in the wrong section. Perhaps it belongs to the Questions and Answers sub-category of General Discussion. I urge my Superiors here to move it to the appropriate category/forum they deem fit.
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My best experience when first getting a new phone is to do a full charge, then let the battery drain completely, and do another full charge with no intermittent taking the phone off of the charger, after a few times of doing this it should break the battery in.
Though some say this does nothing and is merely a myth - I like to think it's true as I have seen results.
I always do the charge, then full discharge, then full charge once on a new phone. From then on I don't pay attention.
I charge every night over night on my night stand. Then use phone throughout the day. If it is a particularly busy day I charge as needed whether that is the regular charger or cigarette lighter charger in the car.
Thank you icepally and 85gallon for your replies.
After I received my device, the very first time, I inserted the battery, powered it on and continued using it until the battery level was low (somewhere between 15% - 10%, although I cannot remember precisely ).
Should I have plugged the phone for charging immediately after inserting the battery or after powering it on?
Also, I did not follow a practice/order of complete 100% charge and complete 100% discharge.
Do any of you reckon what I have mentioned in the above 3 paragraphs will impact the battery life span of my device?
I apologise for my naive and paranoid queries. I am a noob!
Thank you once again for being patient with me.
You should charge any li-ion battery fully and then discharge completely without interruption as often as possible. Most ppl who complain the most fail to get this. This will give you longer charges by up to 25%
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Hello Friends, I have installed BatterBatteryStats 1.0.0.0 on my Samsung Galaxy Note.
How do I use this application to serve me better? Also, is the said version dated or it is enough to be used on my device?
After installing the application, I am clueless about its functionality.
Thank you all once again for being patient with my stupidity.
Wipe Battery Stats, is it necessary?
Hello all, I would like to know if it is recommended that a Wipe Battery Stats be performed every time one flashes a different custom firmware and or a custom kernel?
There are suggestive opinions stating that such a practice allows the kernel to 'settle in' (for a lack of a better adjective), thus making a difference in battery life and performance.
Also, an acquaintance from my neighbourhood pointed me to the following article, http://lifehacker.com/5786717/get-b...ted-android-phone-by-wiping-its-battery-stats, which aroused the above query. My device is a Samsung Galaxy Note GT-N7000.
I have not followed any such acclaimed practice till date, and since I am naive and daft, I felt my query will be best answered by the experts on this wonderful community. Thank you all for your patience.
You seriously need to read this:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
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another easy question to ask.........first to do after buy a phone is to drain da battery first, do a hard drain and then charger a bit juz to make sure ur fone can be booted, boot ur fone n do a factory reset, drain it again, simply rebooting n shutting it down to drain it, after that, charger ur fone merely for 1 minute in off mode n boot again ur fone while charger still developing n make sure u close da sleep mode while charging until it fully charged. There u got ur fone fully regenerate da stat without using any software. then u can charger anytime,anywhere n anyplace as android hav excellent battery management.
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You seriously need to read this:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
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post-mortem, thank you very much for the link to a technical reference. Upon reading it, I have learnt and thus become aware of three important aspects -
1] Never overcharge the battery.
2] Never discharge the battery completely or too low.
3] Power off the device and charge.
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But is it absolutely compulsory to follow point number 3, and charge the device after powering it down?
post-mortem, thank you very much for the link to a technical reference. Upon reading it, I have learnt and thus become aware of three important aspects -
1] Never overcharge the battery.
2] Never discharge the battery completely or too low.
3] Power off the device and charge.
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But is it absolutely compulsory to follow point number 3, and charge the device after powering it down?
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I would say this is only a real issue if the device has high drain while charging. Like if you charge while on a call, or while using navigation. If you only do such things occasionally, I'd bet that the device will reach terminal utility in some other way, before the battery does.
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For me, a new phone must be fully drained when used for the 1st time, and charge it for 5 hours.. It's always the common sayings for a lithium ion batteries.. and then after that you can charge the phone whether it's 20% 30%, etc.. then once a week fully drained the battery and charge..
Also. Overcharging will destroy battery integrity. Not like just charging overnight but if you just constantly always try to charge it and leave it charging when full for long periods of time. Its scientific.
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I would say this is only a real issue if the device has high drain while charging. Like if you charge while on a call, or while using navigation. If you only do such things occasionally, I'd bet that the device will reach terminal utility in some other way, before the battery does.
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Thank you post-mortem and apologies for the late response. The only activities I tend to perform while my device is charging is, either send text messages or chat via WhatsApp Messenger.
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Also. Overcharging will destroy battery integrity. Not like just charging overnight but if you just constantly always try to charge it and leave it charging when full for long periods of time. Its scientific.
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whodisname, thank you as well. I have always been cautious and have never kept my device charging overnight, and thanks to the informative guidelines provided in this thread, I will always remember never to overcharge the battery of my device.
Hello everyone.
When charging a device, either via AC mains using a travel adapter, or USB, is it a compulsory practice to use the stock original cable which doubles up as the data cable, to do so?
Just as there are after market premium batteries from the likes of Anker and Mugen, are there after market premium cables available as well? If there are, would a single after market premium cable be compatible across multiple, if not all devices?
The stock original cable of my Samsung Galaxy Note GT-N7000 has started malfunctioning. I contacted Samsung India's customer service to enquire about the availability of the said accessory, and upon the customer service agent's suggestion, I got in touch with the local Samsung authorised service centre, where an agent informed me, the cable will have to be ordered and it would take between 15 days to a month, to arrive at the local service centre.
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Hello everyone.
When charging a device, either via AC mains using a travel adapter, or USB, is it a compulsory practice to use the stock original cable which doubles up as the data cable, to do so?
Just as there are after market premium batteries from the likes of Anker and Mugen, are there after market premium cables available as well? If there are, would a single after market premium cable be compatible across multiple, if not all devices?
The stock original cable of my Samsung Galaxy Note GT-N7000 has started malfunctioning. I contacted Samsung India's customer service to enquire about the availability of the said accessory, and upon the customer service agent's suggestion, I got in touch with the local Samsung authorised service centre, where an agent informed me, the cable will have to be ordered and it would take between 15 days to a month, to arrive at the local service centre.
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1. yes
2. not that im aware of, but that doesn't mean there is not. most of them are junk though.
3. you could try ebay. sometimes people sell extra parts cheap, but i dont know how you would tell if it is authentic other than contacting the seller. many of the supposed oem stuff is just aftermarket china junk.
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Hello everyone.
When charging a device, either via AC mains using a travel adapter, or USB, is it a compulsory practice to use the stock original cable which doubles up as the data cable, to do so?
Just as there are after market premium batteries from the likes of Anker and Mugen, are there after market premium cables available as well? If there are, would a single after market premium cable be compatible across multiple, if not all devices?
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It really doesn't matter, as long as it's from a good brand. You're not going to damage anything if you use an LG cable on a Samsung phone. You're not going to damage anything if you use some crappy no-name cable, but you should stick with reputable names just for the assurance of longevity and steady connection (especially if you need it to connect to a computer). If you want to find an OEM Samsung cable, just find the cheapest/quickest to ship, and it'll work just fine.
The actual charger though, can be a different matter. ALWAYS go with a reputable charger, preferably the one that came with the device. But even the latter isn't all that important. Mainly you should worry about the charger malfunctioning and cooking your phone. But if you go with something name brand, it's extremely unlikely that you'll damage your battery.
The stock original cable of my Samsung Galaxy Note GT-N7000 has started malfunctioning. I contacted Samsung India's customer service to enquire about the availability of the said accessory, and upon the customer service agent's suggestion, I got in touch with the local Samsung authorised service centre, where an agent informed me, the cable will have to be ordered and it would take between 15 days to a month, to arrive at the local service centre.
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The long shipping time is because you're requesting a specific part with a specific number. Just find yourself the quickest/cheapest Samsung, LG, Sony, Motorola, HTC, or other name brand cable, and you'll be just fine with it.
contrary to what planterz posted, on some phones, newer ones more predominantly, some will not charge properly or as quickly as possible if you don't use the proper factory cable. case and point is the lg g2 i have. fast charging doesn't work with crappy aftermarket or non lg cables.
@Planterz and @bweN diorD, thank you very much for your replies.
I have been charging my device alternately, sometimes using the stock cable of a BlackBerry Bold 9700, but mostly the stock cable of a Sony Xperia E (C1504).
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The Samsung OEM cable is available for purchase online at Mobile Fun India, http://in.mobilefun.com/46026-samsung-micro-usb-sync-charge-cable-black.htm. But, the shipping charge amounts to slightly above half the price of the OEM cable.
I have also looked at the Belkin MIXIT Micro-USB to USB ChargeSync Cable (F2CU012bt04), http://www.belkin.com/us/F2CU012-Belkin/p/P-F2CU012/, which I am very inclined to purchase.
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Hello everyone.
How can the integrity of a Lithium Ion cellphone battery be tested? What is the apt 'hardware' method to do so? Also, would using an app (software interface) yield a convincingly accurate result?
The stock OEM battery of my device (Samsung Galaxy Note GT-N7000) has begun draining rapidly, and thus, I am keen on assessing its capacity related aspects and diagnosing its charge storing/retaining ability.
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I await your valuable guidance.
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hey there!
the title is right! i have a serious problem with my maxx's battery.
i searched in xda forum but i couldn't catch any same results. first i should tell u that i'm not living in U.S so I'm not using 4g LTE...
my droid maxx battery is draining really fast. it can't stand more than a single day of normal usage,the same results of the ultra. I'm not using any mobile networks,I'm just using wi-fi for internet connections. but the result on battery monitoring says that the screen is draining battery,which i dont use it really much! in the battery section in setting,screen used about 46%!!! for example i just unlocked the phone for checking it's battery,2 times in just 30 minutes,and each time the screen went on,the battery percentage got down by 1%. I was using a droid maxx HD before,its battery could run for more than 3 days for me on a normal usage! but my maxx barely goes more than a single day. what can i do? change battery? or any changing in software?
i'm on 4.4 android,not rooted.
i should add that it's about 17 hours which i'm on safe mode,in this 13 hours i was sleeping about 9 hours.and when i started on safe mode it had 62% of battery. now it's 42%!!!!!
sorry for bad english,
thanks for helping
Have you thought about switching batteries?
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hey there!
the title is right! i have a serious problem with my maxx's battery.
i searched in xda forum but i couldn't catch any same results. first i should tell u that i'm not living in U.S so I'm not using 4g LTE...
my droid maxx battery is draining really fast. it can't stand more than a single day of normal usage,the same results of the ultra. I'm not using any mobile networks,I'm just using wi-fi for internet connections. but the result on battery monitoring says that the screen is draining battery,which i dont use it really much! in the battery section in setting,screen used about 46%!!! for example i just unlocked the phone for checking it's battery,2 times in just 30 minutes,and each time the screen went on,the battery percentage got down by 1%. I was using a droid maxx HD before,its battery could run for more than 3 days for me on a normal usage! but my maxx barely goes more than a single day. what can i do? change battery? or any changing in software?
i'm on 4.4 android,not rooted.
i should add that it's about 17 hours which i'm on safe mode,in this 13 hours i was sleeping about 9 hours.and when i started on safe mode it had 62% of battery. now it's 42%!!!!!
sorry for bad english,
thanks for helping
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Have you replaced your manufacturer battery with a new battery? If so where did you purchase it at?
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Have you replaced your manufacturer battery with a new battery? If so where did you purchase it at?
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I bought the phone from ebay everything of the phone works normally and it does not get hot. and how can i know if the battery is original or not? (i used a program to get the battery details...it did not give me the result about a fake battery.)
should i open the phone?
(I'm not sure about this,but i think battery is original,cause in motorola forums i read some similar problems...but they changed their phones in verizon stores,which i don't have access to them)
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I bought the phone from ebay everything of the phone works normally and it does not get hot. and how can i know if the battery is original or not? (i used a program to get the battery details...it did not give me the result about a fake battery.)
should i open the phone?
(I'm not sure about this,but i think battery is original,cause in motorola forums i read some similar problems...but they changed their phones in verizon stores,which i don't have access to them)
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I wouldn't open the phone up to check. if the phone has a removable back on it that you can take off to look and see if the manufacturer has put their name on it. Otherwise, there isn't a good way to check I guess. Sorry
is there any software which can check this out?
Well, you can buy a new battery on ebay, that's what I'm going to do, I'm using an Ultra battery for now, the XT1080M batteries are between 30-35 on ebay, and I consider it very cheap for the capacity.
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Well, you can buy a new battery on ebay, that's what I'm going to do, I'm using an Ultra battery for now, the XT1080M batteries are between 30-35 on ebay, and I consider it very cheap for the capacity.
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you know,it's a good choice,but if i buy a battery,i have to change it by myself...so i should open the back of the phone by myself...and as u can see i live in iran,it takes about a month to recive the battery. so if i have to order a new battery, I have to make sure about the battery..any ideas for knowing the originality of battery by any software?
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is there any software which can check this out?
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Not that I am aware of. You would have to buy a new battery and see if it helps. I suggest a Mugen battery. Have a great weekend!
battery is original
Well, they said that the way to calibrate the battery is use it until is depleted, then... when its off connect it to the wall charger and don't turn the phone on until the battery icon marks 100%, turn it on and it is supposed to be calibrated, or I don't know...
For the battery swapping, you need the Motorola EU40 battery, thats the MAXX one, a Torx 3 screwdriver, a Torx 5 screwdriver and a plastic prying tool... you can search in Google on how to open the Droid Ultra/Maxx and it's easy, if you have the correct screwdrivers of couser... Good Luck!
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Well, they said that the way to calibrate the battery is use it until is depleted, then... when its off connect it to the wall charger and don't turn the phone on until the battery icon marks 100%, turn it on and it is supposed to be calibrated, or I don't know...
For the battery swapping, you need the Motorola EU40 battery, thats the MAXX one, a Torx 3 screwdriver, a Torx 5 screwdriver and a plastic prying tool... you can't search in Google on how to open the Droid Ultra/Maxx and it's easy, if you have the correct screwdrivers of couser... Good Luck!
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thanks dude,I will try, but there is just one question, I read on motorola forums that using phone until the battery goes to 0% is dangerous for the battery. Is it true? or i will do this. and i hope the problem would solve..or i have to buy the battery...
thanks
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thanks dude,I will try, but there is just one question, I read on motorola forums that using phone until the battery goes to 0% is dangerous for the battery. Is it true? or i will do this. and i hope the problem would solve..or i have to buy the battery...
thanks
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It's fine, just drain until it ships off by itself. Plug it in and charge to 100% with the phone off the whole time. . I do this once a month to Calibrate the battery and it helps. Never had a problem
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my droid maxx had in the beginning of july a battery capacity of 3488 mah. now the current capacity is 3130mah. i already tried to recalibrate the battery with recharging it from 0 (when the phone turns off because it has no power) but that didnt helped. i am using battery monitor to look at the capacity. as i live in germany, i am using an samsung plug for charging. the original plug from the droid maxx delivers 5v and 1150ma. my charger delivers 5v and 1000ma, so it shouldnt make that problem.
is my battery still ok or have you any ideas ?
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my droid maxx had in the beginning of july a battery capacity of 3488 mah. now the current capacity is 3130mah. i already tried to recalibrate the battery with recharging it from 0 (when the phone turns off because it has no power) but that didnt helped. i am using battery monitor to look at the capacity. as i live in germany, i am using an samsung plug for charging. the original plug from the droid maxx delivers 5v and 1150ma. my charger delivers 5v and 1000ma, so it shouldnt make that problem.
is my battery still ok or have you any ideas ?
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I think the 150 ma loss may be a problem.
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I think the 150 ma loss may be a problem.
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i dont think so, it is better to charge with lower ma than with higher..
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i dont think so, it is better to charge with lower ma than with higher..
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That's not true. It's better for the battery to be kept between about 40 and 80 percent and the battery will last longer with a lot of small charges rather than a small number of big charges. Depleting the battery regularly is not good for it.
See http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/04/ask-ars-the-best-way-to-use-a-lithium-ion-battery-redux/ and http://mashable.com/2014/06/18/phone-charging-myths/
You can also read some more technical info at http://batteryuniversity.com/
Oy. Big debate.. To each their own I guess.
My battery lasts just as long as day 1. I use the 2.1a micro usb led AC charger sold at Verizon made by fonas. I top off from 30 to 90-95. Yes it's protected from over charging. But letting your battery drop below 20 is not good.
I do a full cycle once a month from 15 to 100%
Is your phone under warranty? There aren't any 32gb droid maxx models currently listed on swappa.com they tend to sell more than the 16gbs new.
there can i look how much warranty i have ?
i still have warranty for my droid maxx until november 2014. but i am living in germany and using it here. the phone has no bad esn or something like that. could i still get help ? even if it is the battery ?
also i have unlocked my bootloader with the chinese guy...
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i still have warranty for my droid maxx until november 2014. but i am living in germany and using it here. the phone has no bad esn or something like that. could i still get help ? even if it is the battery ?
also i have unlocked my bootloader with the chinese guy...
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Ehh.... You may or may not have any luck sending in to Motorola. They may say your warranty is voided. Then again they may replace your battery.
I don't know how reliant you are on the root or unlock. Because there is an exploit under works to do just that.
I'd say just keep it and use it until something better comes out and sell it then.
Or sell it and try finding a replacement that's on older firmware or just get it and wait for the new exploit.
I would like to think there are probably many people over seas who would love to buy your phone. Just be honest when you sell it and say what the reported capacity is.
In the mean time, for better battery life,
Install one power guard not pro in play store. Choose ai mode.
Also install greenify and donate version, enable in xposed, greenify every app and a few system apps.