Hi,
I've had my SGH-I897 Captivate (AT&T) for about a year now, and began reading about rooting and ROMs and personalizing it about five or six months later. I got tired of the AT&T bloatware, the Tethering Manager FC after upgrading from Froyo to Gingerbread via Kies Mini, and the general overall disappointing performance of the phone. I flashed my first ROM back in late April, IIRC, which was CyanogenMod 7.1. This opened up a whole new world of possibilities for me, although my first attempt at flashing was not very good and I ultimately had to go back to stock. But I learned a lot, and since then went from there to CM 7.2, 9.1, Andromeda, and finally CM 10. When I began running Jelly Bean on my Cappy, I was awestruck at the cleanliness of the OS - the Roboto font made everything pop, and everything just seemed smoother (although I wasn't running the Project Butter version - this was CM).
Last week I decided to go bleeding edge and flashed the pre-nightly version of CM 10.1 (JB 4.2). As with my first attempt at flashing, this one didn't go well, either because of the pre-nightly state of the ROM or whatever. So I restored my CWM backup and went back to CM 10. Later that week, I checked in CM Updater and lo and behold, there was a 10.1 nightly staring me in the face. So I updated (even though the official instructions said "don't update through CM Updater", but oh well), and my Cappy runs like a new phone. I honestly cannot find any issues with the OS at all. Everything works. (I updated the gapps version to the 1212 version which runs with 4.2.) I feel like CM 10.1 has breathed new life into my old hardware (and no, I'm not on CM's payroll :laugh.
Mind you, this is with the baked-in kernel. I have tried the Semaphore 2.8c kernel, but for some reason it just didn't seem as snappy. I haven't tried any of the other JB kernels for fear I'll brick the thing.
Thanks to pawitp and the entire CM and AOSP teams for putting out such a high-quality ROM. You guys rock!
I'd post this in the developers forum but I'm not up to 10 posts yet.
Did you have to factory reset? You make me want to try it. I'm on CM10 right now.
Btw. I find kernels have typical been the biggest player in performance for my phone. I always upgrade to semaphone not sure why you had problems with it.
falcon7204 said:
Hi,
I've had my SGH-I897 Captivate (AT&T) for about a year now, and began reading about rooting and ROMs and personalizing it about five or six months later. I got tired of the AT&T bloatware, the Tethering Manager FC after upgrading from Froyo to Gingerbread via Kies Mini, and the general overall disappointing performance of the phone. I flashed my first ROM back in late April, IIRC, which was CyanogenMod 7.1. This opened up a whole new world of possibilities for me, although my first attempt at flashing was not very good and I ultimately had to go back to stock. But I learned a lot, and since then went from there to CM 7.2, 9.1, Andromeda, and finally CM 10. When I began running Jelly Bean on my Cappy, I was awestruck at the cleanliness of the OS - the Roboto font made everything pop, and everything just seemed smoother (although I wasn't running the Project Butter version - this was CM).
Last week I decided to go bleeding edge and flashed the pre-nightly version of CM 10.1 (JB 4.2). As with my first attempt at flashing, this one didn't go well, either because of the pre-nightly state of the ROM or whatever. So I restored my CWM backup and went back to CM 10. Later that week, I checked in CM Updater and lo and behold, there was a 10.1 nightly staring me in the face. So I updated (even though the official instructions said "don't update through CM Updater", but oh well), and my Cappy runs like a new phone. I honestly cannot find any issues with the OS at all. Everything works. (I updated the gapps version to the 1212 version which runs with 4.2.) I feel like CM 10.1 has breathed new life into my old hardware (and no, I'm not on CM's payroll :laugh.
Mind you, this is with the baked-in kernel. I have tried the Semaphore 2.8c kernel, but for some reason it just didn't seem as snappy. I haven't tried any of the other JB kernels for fear I'll brick the thing.
Thanks to pawitp and the entire CM and AOSP teams for putting out such a high-quality ROM. You guys rock!
I'd post this in the developers forum but I'm not up to 10 posts yet.
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daaac said:
Did you have to factory reset? You make me want to try it. I'm on CM10 right now.
Btw. I find kernels have typical been the biggest player in performance for my phone. I always upgrade to semaphone not sure why you had problems with it.
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Yeah Factory reset is recommended. And its Working great. I must ask you to consider updating to 4.2, 10.1 nightly build. Its literally flawless...
Sent from my SGH-I897
cm10.1 really cool. Waiting for slim android 4.2
Several days ago I did the upgrade to 10.1 from 10 without the factory reset - no problems, but wipe the caches). You need to clear the clock data first and do the upgrade from the boot screen (not the update screen in about phone). Do a backup just in case you have problems.
for further info go to :donandroid.com/how-to-update-cm10-to-cm10-1-with-cwm-recovery-581
ppenguinn said:
cm10.1 really cool. Waiting for slim android 4.2
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Sent From the Land of Defrag
if you do Erase SD Card, does it erase internal storage instead?
I tried the stable version of CM10, and it seemed to work great except for one thing. I could connect to my employer's Exchange server at all. I tried all kinds of things and it just couldn't connect. I took it to the IT guys and they fiddled with it for a while and couldn't get it to work either. A little quality time with Google told me that JB has a bug that sometimes makes it impossible to connect to corporate exchange accounts. I ended up switching to CM9. Do you know whether CM10.1 fixes that? If so I think I'll give it a try.
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cm10.1 really cool. Waiting for slim android 4.2
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Slim 4.2.1 has been available in beta for a week or two now... I've not encountered any problems with beta 2 so far.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2060386
falcon7204 said:
Hi,
I've had my SGH-I897 Captivate (AT&T) for about a year now, and began reading about rooting and ROMs and personalizing it about five or six months later. I got tired of the AT&T bloatware, the Tethering Manager FC after upgrading from Froyo to Gingerbread via Kies Mini, and the general overall disappointing performance of the phone. I flashed my first ROM back in late April, IIRC, which was CyanogenMod 7.1. This opened up a whole new world of possibilities for me, although my first attempt at flashing was not very good and I ultimately had to go back to stock. But I learned a lot, and since then went from there to CM 7.2, 9.1, Andromeda, and finally CM 10. When I began running Jelly Bean on my Cappy, I was awestruck at the cleanliness of the OS - the Roboto font made everything pop, and everything just seemed smoother (although I wasn't running the Project Butter version - this was CM).
Last week I decided to go bleeding edge and flashed the pre-nightly version of CM 10.1 (JB 4.2). As with my first attempt at flashing, this one didn't go well, either because of the pre-nightly state of the ROM or whatever. So I restored my CWM backup and went back to CM 10. Later that week, I checked in CM Updater and lo and behold, there was a 10.1 nightly staring me in the face. So I updated (even though the official instructions said "don't update through CM Updater", but oh well), and my Cappy runs like a new phone. I honestly cannot find any issues with the OS at all. Everything works. (I updated the gapps version to the 1212 version which runs with 4.2.) I feel like CM 10.1 has breathed new life into my old hardware (and no, I'm not on CM's payroll :laugh.
Mind you, this is with the baked-in kernel. I have tried the Semaphore 2.8c kernel, but for some reason it just didn't seem as snappy. I haven't tried any of the other JB kernels for fear I'll brick the thing.
Thanks to pawitp and the entire CM and AOSP teams for putting out such a high-quality ROM. You guys rock!
I'd post this in the developers forum but I'm not up to 10 posts yet.
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with my last (first) android phone, i came to the conclusion that carriers muck up android with their lockdowns, bloatware, and refusal to update non-flagship devices. i've been through a couple of ROMs (AOKP, PA, and now on CM 10.1 until PA releases their 4.2 build). i may get a new phone eventually, but, for now, my Cappy is kickin' it. it's always funny seeing someone with a newer phone running gingerbread and thinking "ah, i remember that boggy, unhelpful, but full of potential mess of a phone." good luck!
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theoctagon said:
with my last (first) android phone, i came to the conclusion that carriers muck up android with their lockdowns, bloatware, and refusal to update non-flagship devices. i've been through a couple of ROMs (AOKP, PA, and now on CM 10.1 until PA releases their 4.2 build). i may get a new phone eventually, but, for now, my Cappy is kickin' it. it's always funny seeing someone with a newer phone running gingerbread and thinking "ah, i remember that boggy, unhelpful, but full of potential mess of a phone." good luck!
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I gave my Captivate to my daughter a while back when I changed to the Note 2. I initially set it up with AOKP milestone 6 (ICS 4.0.4). My son has my wife's old Captivate and I updated it recently to the final Cyanogenmod 10.0 release. My daughter's phone has been having battery problems due to wakelock issues. I have considered updating it to the latest CM 10.0 like my son has but it seems SLOW - maybe all the games he has loaded.
Anyway, neither of them care about running the "latest and greatest". They just want a stable fast phone. I know the typical answer is "personal preference" but they don't try other ROMs. I have wondered if JB 4.2.x would work well on old hardware like the Captivate with limited RAM, etc. Neither of them need a lot of fancy options and don't use bluetooth, etc.
Opinions on solid fast ROMs to try?
CM10.1 is still on nightlies and from what I am reading, there are still some probs with power management and wifi.
CM10.0 stable is smooth with no noticable lag on my cappy. I don't overclock.
overall passmark benchmark performance is slightly better than it was on GB KK4.
the slowness on your son's phone is probably due to something running, perhaps games.
Sent from my SGH-I897
laughingT said:
CM10.1 is still on nightlies and from what I am reading, there are still some probs with power management and wifi.
CM10.0 stable is smooth with no noticable lag on my cappy. I don't overclock.
overall passmark benchmark performance is slightly better than it was on GB KK4.
the slowness on your son's phone is probably due to something running, perhaps games.
Sent from my SGH-I897
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So for a stable fast ROM, you would suggest CM 10.0 over AOCP or some of the other 4.1.2 "final" version ROMs like SlimBean?
depends on your personal preference I suppose. you need to get to CM9 at least, preferably 10.0, to flash slim bean, right? So, if it runs well on 10.0, then you could go slim bean
you wrote that you just want the basics, nothing fancy. so, yes, CM10.
Sent from my SGH-I897
daaac said:
Did you have to factory reset? You make me want to try it. I'm on CM10 right now.
Btw. I find kernels have typical been the biggest player in performance for my phone. I always upgrade to semaphone not sure why you had problems with it.
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Yes, I did. And I didn't really have any problems with Semaphore, it just seemed a little laggy.
RichMD said:
I gave my Captivate to my daughter a while back when I changed to the Note 2. I initially set it up with AOKP milestone 6 (ICS 4.0.4). My son has my wife's old Captivate and I updated it recently to the final Cyanogenmod 10.0 release. My daughter's phone has been having battery problems due to wakelock issues. I have considered updating it to the latest CM 10.0 like my son has but it seems SLOW - maybe all the games he has loaded.
Anyway, neither of them care about running the "latest and greatest". They just want a stable fast phone. I know the typical answer is "personal preference" but they don't try other ROMs. I have wondered if JB 4.2.x would work well on old hardware like the Captivate with limited RAM, etc. Neither of them need a lot of fancy options and don't use bluetooth, etc.
Opinions on solid fast ROMs to try?
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I would highly recommend Sephhi's [ROM][4.2.1]Captivating (Xperia Themed)
It is CM10 based and is stripped down to run smooth.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2057574
Set today [ROM] [4.2.1] Captivating (Xperia Themed) [9.2] (Lagless bugfixes), Beautiful, smart, but that does not remove the video camera in any resolution, the error does not take off, but simply does not respond to the record button, the camera photographs. What to do?during the call audio output to the speaker, the button to switch to the internal - external speaker does not work. What to do?
BELbX said:
Set today [ROM] [4.2.1] Captivating (Xperia Themed) [9.2] (Lagless bugfixes), Beautiful, smart, but that does not remove the video camera in any resolution, the error does not take off, but simply does not respond to the record button, the camera photographs. What to do?during the call audio output to the speaker, the button to switch to the internal - external speaker does not work. What to do?
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Try hellybean 4.2. Hellybean came a long way from when i used it a while back! It's a much smaller and light weight package as compared to the xperia one. Barely any issues. Boot times and first boot are quick. Over clocking is fun again too. I thought it was oc'd at first for being smooth. It's so smooth and stable. One or two things, but nothing compared to others. I like the xperia one but it's heavier with more to be worked. It's running better then aokp 4.1 with semaphore.
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3g Problem
I just flashed 4.2.1 AoCP 5 and lost my 3G. Anyone know what's up?
cyanogenmod team has been developing the best and most stable Roms since rooting, they do the best in making them bug free but Roms cant replace Stock that is nearly perfect
- the stock camera app that works and takes pretty good pictures/videos whereas the camera app on cyanogenmod 10 or below takes nasty pictures, design/interface is crappy but overall it works
- Data/mobile network connection is worse than when am running android stock, because am always gettin EDGE (2G) speeds, sometimes gettin nothin and i get mobile network disconnected, APN is fcked up, it doesnt load up web pages/download apps since its fcking slow plus 3G/4G comes back when am at the city and there is a good connection (EDGE)/2G/nothing comes along when i hit the country side.
fix it, iknow there are other ROMs that i can use but Cyanogemod is close enough to be classified as GOOD AS STOCK CAN BE
other problems lies on the Rom but this are the only important/relevant one i could find
i believe in their hardwork to give the consumer the best/most stable ROMS/FIRMWARE but there are things to be fixed like the two i stated above
AT&T Samsung Galaxy S3 I747 on stock jelly bean (4.1.1)
thanks
Not sure if this is relevant to you as my phone is a HTC Desire HD, but I had network problems on my DHD running CyanogenMod 10.1 Unofficial until I flashed the latest radio.
Turns out there were compatibility issues with the older radio firmware.
tandeejay said:
Not sure if this is relevant to you as my phone is a HTC Desire HD, but I had network problems on my DHD running CyanogenMod 10.1 Unofficial until I flashed the latest radio.
Turns out there were compatibility issues with the older radio firmware.
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I think that you should friend try the new official version of CyanogenMod 11 is now available on the website of cyanogenmod, I have tested and works correctly, but honestly expected much more, I prefer the cyanogenmod 11 Temasek is infinitely better in my opinion.
a greeting.:good:
Been running cm 10.2.1 for a bit now its works but has several issues, and was wondering if the Stock Rom 4.1.2 capable or running GSM? i know once flashing it back ill need to unlock the radio, but is it capable, CM is nice but too many little issues to make it practical on the photon q
so is it possible, if so how?
or is it not possible, why?
Why aren't you running a newer ROM, e.g. CM11? It's under the device name of "moto_msm8960".
Sent from Google Nexus 4 @ CM11
havent been running a newer rom because i hadnt gotten around to updating the recovery for flashing CM 11 since the photon q is no longer supported offfically by any of the updates and there arent currently any stable releases of CM 11 only nightly builds
Most of the Issues im dealing wirh are annoying and id rather not repeat them if i didnt haveto, many folks are still complaining about the broken data hand shaking issues for 3g data
Morecrabs said:
havent been running a newer rom because i hadnt gotten around to updating the recovery for flashing CM 11 since the photon q is no longer supported offfically by any of the updates and there arent currently any stable releases of CM 11 only nightly builds
Most of the Issues im dealing wirh are annoying and id rather not repeat them if i didnt haveto, many folks are still complaining about the broken data hand shaking issues for 3g data
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Man, the only time to crank out a stable build is when the next Android version is out... Don't expect stable releases in the middle of something. Nightlies have always been stable for me. And isn't updating the recovery a simple one-time thing?
Sent from Google Nexus 4 @ CM11
Morecrabs said:
havent been running a newer rom because i hadnt gotten around to updating the recovery for flashing CM 11 since the photon q is no longer supported offfically by any of the updates and there arent currently any stable releases of CM 11 only nightly builds
Most of the Issues im dealing wirh are annoying and id rather not repeat them if i didnt haveto, many folks are still complaining about the broken data hand shaking issues for 3g data
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Photon Q is officially supported by CyanogenMod (I'm maintainer).
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Moto_msm8960_Info
I recommended to use OpenRecovery 2.09, download link can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48551561&postcount=75
CM11 is what I run on my phone and I'm not aware of any issues worth mentioning.
I have no idea what you mean by
broken data hand shaking issues for 3g data
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. If people complain but don't post
Code:
adb logcat -b radio
, there's no way to help them. My data work fine.
(Issues reported by CDMA users are something else, outside of my scope as I'm in GSM land, but CDMA fixes are still in progress in the generic CM code).
When I search https://jira.cyanogenmod.org for xt897, I see only three bug reports.
There's not much moto_msm8960 specific progress happening right now as we mostly wait for the release of 3.4 kernel source by Motorola (it would be waste of time to backport more 3.4 code to our current 3.0 kernel as 3.0 will become obsolete hopefully soon).
Anyway, back to your original question: you can use the stock 4.1.2 firmware on SIM modded Q just fine.
on version 10.2.1 I had issues with 3G data, I had data when the Phone was connected with H+ but the Moment it switched to 3G i lost Connectivity, after a small amount of Google searching I found other folks had this issue as well except the Photon Q community had Not reported this issue explicitly, the Loss of 3G isnt something most would notice since the Coverage has been improving Signifcantly but for me in my area its fairly apparent because its more Rural, so we have some holes in the At&ts 4g coverage
I installed the Latest 2.7 Twrp and flashed CM11 Nightly lastest, working ok, but the Install of Gapps Keeps failing, this phone being my daily driver i want it to be as seamless as possible
Flashed latest Nightly and 3-22_gapps_Standard_4.4.2_Signed.zip
its failing on the gapps install
the 3G issues on the Nightly seem eliminated as i Havent Noticed the Coverage Loss as of yet, but was hoping to Get Ingress Running which made the Loss of Connectivity very apparent Go resistance!
thank U for the reply guys, I really do appreciate your works and didn't mean to come off as a whiner, just need it to work seamlessly since its a daily driver and this roms are experimental and Im no expert, I really do enjoy the Features Implemented and the Debloating especally but simply wondered if the stock would be able to provide me a more stable environment until till more kinks got worked out
Morecrabs said:
on version 10.2.1 I had issues with 3G data, I had data when the Phone was connected with H+ but the Moment it switched to 3G i lost Connectivity, after a small amount of Google searching I found other folks had this issue as well except the Photon Q community had Not reported this issue explicitly, the Loss of 3G isnt something most would notice since the Coverage has been improving Signifcantly but for me in my area its fairly apparent because its more Rural, so we have some holes in the At&ts 4g coverage
I installed the Latest 2.7 Twrp and flashed CM11 Nightly lastest, working ok, but the Install of Gapps Keeps failing, this phone being my daily driver i want it to be as seamless as possible
Flashed latest Nightly and 3-22_gapps_Standard_4.4.2_Signed.zip
its failing on the gapps install
the 3G issues on the Nightly seem eliminated as i Havent Noticed the Coverage Loss as of yet, but was hoping to Get Ingress Running which made the Loss of Connectivity very apparent Go resistance!
thank U for the reply guys, I really do appreciate your works and didn't mean to come off as a whiner, just need it to work seamlessly since its a daily driver and this roms are experimental and Im no expert, I really do enjoy the Features Implemented and the Debloating especally but simply wondered if the stock would be able to provide me a more stable environment until till more kinks got worked out
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I am based in Australia where 3G 850mhz GSM band is used on a sim modded phone. I am running ICS. did you manage to get gapps installed?
I'm just wondering what the rooting/ROM'ing experience is like on the Moto G LTE. Is it very straightforward? Is the custom ROM support good? (eg. regular updates?) Any good kernels like Leankernel for the Samsungs?
My Galaxy S3 is on it's way out (or it's already gone, depending on how you look at it)...so with a tight budget my options are this phone, or the Nexus 5. I'm trying to get an idea of what the ROM'ing community is like for this phone since I will probably want to flash Carbon or CM as soon as I take it out of the box. Rooting for the Samsung's has been a real pain since the latest Touchwiz update, so I would like something that's much friendlier.
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I'm just wondering what the rooting/ROM'ing experience is like on the Moto G LTE. Is it very straightforward? Is the custom ROM support good? (eg. regular updates?) Any good kernels like Leankernel for the Samsungs?
My Galaxy S3 is on it's way out (or it's already gone, depending on how you look at it)...so with a tight budget my options are this phone, or the Nexus 5. I'm trying to get an idea of what the ROM'ing community is like for this phone since I will probably want to flash Carbon or CM as soon as I take it out of the box. Rooting for the Samsung's has been a real pain since the latest Touchwiz update, so I would like something that's much friendlier.
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the experience is overall good i guess..
Rooting Easy
nubreed000 said:
I'm just wondering what the rooting/ROM'ing experience is like on the Moto G LTE. Is it very straightforward? Is the custom ROM support good? (eg. regular updates?) Any good kernels like Leankernel for the Samsungs?
My Galaxy S3 is on it's way out (or it's already gone, depending on how you look at it)...so with a tight budget my options are this phone, or the Nexus 5. I'm trying to get an idea of what the ROM'ing community is like for this phone since I will probably want to flash Carbon or CM as soon as I take it out of the box. Rooting for the Samsung's has been a real pain since the latest Touchwiz update, so I would like something that's much friendlier.
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Rooting the LTE is very easy. There are a few ROMs available, but at present (in my case) the have too many significant bugs - wifi only works on some routers, RAM freezes after a couple of days use.
Carbon and CM are very stable except for the above two bugs for me. But others users are either having no problems or different ones.
SlimKat has just been added to the official page so hopefully they'll get that up and running but it currently just bootloops for me.
It works out alright I guess at least on CM and Carbon (same core dev). Be warned, if you are on 4.4.4 you won't be able to return to stock since there is no image file out there. Downgrading to 4.4.3 is not possible as far as I know.
Slim also just came out with a first build of peregrine. Works pretty well so far, but does not yet support moving apps to the SD card ... next build or two hopefully. The phone only came out in June, so the work is still in progress.
Now that Paranoid Android. 2016 has been released yesterday for OPO, would you make the switch to Paranoid Android? and why?
To help flasholics make informed choices
Paranoid Android just for the different experience than the stock roms. CM is almost stock. After using for sometime battery charging is slow. TOugh call to make with Dirty Unicorns or Darkobas roms. with PA.
I vote for different experience hence PA.
I vote for CM. Its got a blotch of features and no...those nose breakdowns didnt happen to me.. PA's accountability in this period is very bad. They left us and now when android N is almost out, they turn their nose into first PA MM build. kinda late to win win i would say,. but i have to agree they are very stable interms of battery.. if only they stick to custom roms, i would have been on PA.
I would go for CM13 (Sultan) over Paranoid Android. I've been on CM Nightlies for ages and Sultan's ROM is CM with better camera, kernel and based on a more stable branch from CM. Paranoid is just coming back after a long hiatus and it won't have any of the features you've come to enjoy on a daily basis on other custom software.
A lot of people have commented PA has charging issues. I assume that's cause they used the Oxygen kernel. I also had issues on latest Oxygen OS with charging (took like 4+ hrs to charge), it can't be a coincidence. If PA are still dishing out builds, check them out in a couple months when the OS has matured (with more features)
What about the just launched Cyanogen 13.1 into the mix? Would anyone be considering switching to that?
The charging issue on PA is keeping me from trying it, although my battery life on the official CM13 nightlies hasn't been fantastic
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What about the just launched Cyanogen 13.1 into the mix? Would anyone be considering switching to that?
The charging issue on PA is keeping me from trying it, although my battery life on the official CM13 nightlies hasn't been fantastic
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I did just that, I've switched over from the nightlies. So far almost everything is just like CyanogenMod, but kind of worse in a way, and the only reason I'm saying that is because I have a very specific setup and like having Google versions of the apps, which aren't all included in COS. The features from the newest update are rather useless to me at this point in time, it might be a different story if something more interesting gets released though. Other than that it's smooth and fast and due to the lack of root I can finally try out android pay. I'm thinking that if I have no reason to stay on it I will switch back to CM nightlies, or maybe try out Paranoid android when some of the issues (such as the theme engine) get fixed.
I would Prefer COS 13.1. I really found the MODs (Skype and hyperlape) useful for myself. Except for these mods everything is more or less like CM 13 except the camera here is better. I tried PA for a day. It had Slow charging, no extra feature over CM 13. Infact lacks a great deal of features when compared to CM or COS 13.