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I was a Note 7 refugee so I have the stock Samsung fast AC charger here. Model EP-TA20JWE rated at 9v @ 1.67A and 5v @ 2A. It's in my kitchen.
I have the original AC charger that came with the Pixel XL. Model TC G1000-US rated at 9v @ 2.0A and 5v @ 0.5A I have only used once to get this information.
I also have a mobile charger in my car. It is labeled as Qualcomm QC 3.0 certified which is why I bought it as the Note 7 was a QC 3.0 device. It is a Choetech Model C0051 rated at 9.1v~12v @ 1.5A Max, 5.6v~9v @ 2A Max, and 3.6v~5.5v @ 2.4A Max (the iFixit teardown has revealed a Qualcomm QC 3.0 IC in the Pixel)
Additionally I have a charger by the bed which is from my Nexus 6, Motorola "Turbo Charger" Model SSW-2680US rated at 5v @ 1.6A, 9v @ 1.6A, and 12v @ 1.2A.
All of the chargers are using their original CABLE (USBA to USBC except in the case of the Pixel which is USBC to USBC) included EXCEPT the Motorola Turbo Charger, which is using a 6 foot long braided USBA to Micro USB cable with the Micro USB to USBC adapter that came with the Note 7.
What I found so far was all three work well and all three are recognized by the phone as a rapid charger.
I also found that at 60% charge and plugging in each one long enough for the lock screen to give me the "rapid charging XX minutes until full" message, the Samsung EP-TA20JWE fast charger charges it faster than the Google TC G1000US or the Choetech C0051. The Google and Choetech appear to charge at the same rate based on time until full. The Motorola Turbo Charger charges at an extremely fast rate, like it took it from 58% to 77% in maybe 5-10 minutes and was saying 15 minutes to full at 77%.
My battery life is phenomenal for me at 5-6 hours SOT, I have no issues with any of these chargers, they all see charging time every day. Turbo charger overnight, Samsung Note 7 charger when in the kitchen where I am a lot, mobile charger when driving to work or classes... (except the actual Pixel charger which I haven't found a use for yet but will probably go to work with me.
*Based on my findings I am going to put the Samsung Note 7 charger in the kitchen and the slowest Pixel charger in the bedroom and take the fastest Turbo charger to work.
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I know my test method isn't to some people's satisfaction but the time to full calculation is based on how much the phone is charged now (which I kept within +/- 2% for each check) and how much current the device wants to draw from what's available. What's interesting is the device draws power much quicker than the Pixel charger supplies it when it is plugged into more capable chargers.
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Good information. It's nice to knows that all the accessories I got for my note won't go to waste lol.
Thank you.
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I have been having varying experiences.
My Anker QC 3.0 type C wall charger seems to charge rapidly, although at the 5V/3A only, with a 6.6ft USB 2.0 i-orange cable. Using a 3.3ft USB 3.0 cable, it shows charging rapidly when I first plug it in, but a few minutes later only shows charging.. but seems to be charging rapidly? My Tronsmart type C w/ QC 3.0 car charger, using an Anker Powerline+ type C cable, shows charging rapidly, but said it had 1+ hour until full when at 70%... Ampere only showed 1.6A being sent to the phone too. I tried an iVoler charger with type C and QC 3.0 and got up to 2050mAh, but it was likely only 5V (which I would expect) but still didn't seem to be charging all that fast.
I think this whole USB-PD thing is going to really be dependent on proper chargers and cables. All of these chargers/cables worked perfect on my Nexus 6P - doesn't seem to be the case on the Pixel.
Thanks for the experience folks. I had purchased a qc 3.0 tronsmart on sale at amazon which I was going to return. I got usb c cables with pd from monoprice. I suppose even if it doesn't fast charge at 18w (9v X 2a), I'd be ok with 15 w charging if I don't have to go out and buy a new car charger.
I mean faster is nice but if it still charges at a good rate, the lower current might help the battery last longer too right?
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Thanks for the experience folks. I had purchased a qc 3.0 tronsmart on sale at amazon which I was going to return. I got usb c cables with pd from monoprice. I suppose even if it doesn't fast charge at 18w (9v X 2a), I'd be ok with 15 w charging if I don't have to go out and buy a new car charger.
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I have bad news for you. I have a Tronsmart QC 3.0 type C charger too - one from a year ago though, don't know if the design has changed - and it is NOT rapid charging my device. It worked perfect on my Nexus 6P. It will start out by saying "charging rapidly" on the Pixel XL, but after several minutes, goes down to "charging" and the charge time is 2+ hours, Ampere shows really low current, etc. It COULD be the Anker Powerline+ type C cable I am using... but I highly doubt it. I think the fact that the type C port has QC 3.0 is not playing nice with the USB-PD chip, and causing it to drop support for 5V/3A all together. I will test this more tonight with the stock cable and see if it works any better.
Did some testing: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69309771&postcount=30
Man I totally forgot about my Motorola Turbo chargers I got from Groupon. I wish I could find my @zerolemon charger too.. Ill test them with my USB USB Doctor dongles.. When I find them... lol
psa; cables make a huge difference in my experience.
I also have a tronsmart qc2 1 + 3 fast port car charger Ill test and post results.
Perhaps not the right thread but I have just been sent these USB-C cables to review for free.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B01EEACOVO/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Amazon says they are rated to 2.4A but will they damage by Pixel XL? I'm not expecting them to charge 'rapidly' but would be handy to be able to use them with an older 2A charger.
Do you think they are safe?
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Why do so many people try to get a charger with as high a wattage rating as possible but ignore the fact that USB-C is limited to 3A and all you need to do is find a charger capable of delivering 3A.
What does wattage have to do with things?
Not trying to be a jerk, I'm just assuming I must be missing something here.
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Why do so many people try to get a charger with as high a wattage rating as possible but ignore the fact that USB-C is limited to 3A and all you need to do is find a charger capable of delivering 3A.
What does wattage have to do with things?
Not trying to be a jerk, I'm just assuming I must be missing something here.
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Because more watts = more power. USB-C may be limited to 3A, but it is not limited to 5V. Higher volts at the same amperage = more wattage = more power. If you want the fastest charging possible, you need a 9V/2A+ USB-PD charger.
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it is not limited to 5V.
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I didn't realize it was OK to go with higher than 5v now.
Do you know if it's okay to hard wire directly into a 12V system for charging? Like in the car? I'm guessing "no it's not okay" but I'm still learning about USB-C.
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tap = hard wire/splice into. As in, no adapter. Just a USB-C at one end and then snip the connector off the other end and use the two power wires and two ground wires to splice directly into say, the back of a cigarette charger's 12V wiring.
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I didn't realize it was OK to go with higher than 5v now.
Do you know if it's okay to hard wire directly into a 12V system for charging? Like in the car? I'm guessing "no it's not okay" but I'm still learning about USB-C.
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tap = hard wire/splice into. As in, no adapter. Just a USB-C at one end and then snip the connector off the other end and use the two power wires and two ground wires to splice directly into say, the back of a cigarette charger's 12V wiring.
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There is no way that would work, nor would it be safe. There HAS to be an adapter to safely charge the phone by regulating voltage and current, as well as shutting off the charge once it hits 100%.
Nitemare3219 said:
There is no way that would work, nor would it be safe. There HAS to be an adapter to safely charge the phone by regulating voltage and current, as well as shutting off the charge once it hits 100%.
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It's my understanding that some/all of the regulating is done on-board some phones.
I know I never had any issues with my 3A 12v to 5v converter hard wired to S4 and Note 3 phones for charging in either my car or Motorcycle.
At least, I didn't notice any issues.
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It's my understanding that some/all of the regulating is done on-board some phones.
I know I never had any issues with my 3A 12v to 5v converter hard wired to S4 and Note 3 phones for charging in either my car or Motorcycle.
At least, I didn't notice any issues.
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Well you're a brave soul. I wouldn't ever think to try something like that. Especially not with USB-C & Power Delivery now. The phone is responsible for some of the charging regulation, but the charger itself is just as important.
CZ Eddie said:
Why do so many people try to get a charger with as high a wattage rating as possible but ignore the fact that USB-C is limited to 3A and all you need to do is find a charger capable of delivering 3A.
What does wattage have to do with things?
Not trying to be a jerk, I'm just assuming I must be missing something here.
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Because with USB PD the Pixel can charge at 18W by using 2A by 9V. So just looking for a 3A charger doesn't give you the fastest possible charging for the Pixel. Using a standard 3A charger will charge it at 3A by 5V for 15W. You multiply the voltage and amperage to determine wattage.
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I have an aukey car charger and my pixel phone rapid charges when I use the QC 3.0 port, but not the USB c port.
Anyone try the other Motorola turbo chargers 15, 25, 30? Id be curious to know if they work any better. They say the phone must support "turbo"..
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CZ Eddie said:
I didn't realize it was OK to go with higher than 5v now.
Do you know if it's okay to hard wire directly into a 12V system for charging? Like in the car? I'm guessing "no it's not okay" but I'm still learning about USB-C.
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tap = hard wire/splice into. As in, no adapter. Just a USB-C at one end and then snip the connector off the other end and use the two power wires and two ground wires to splice directly into say, the back of a cigarette charger's 12V wiring.
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No definitely not. Car Battery supplies too much wattage/amerpage and its missing the PD ic and other protections in most good charger (over volt, under volt, circuit protection, trickle, power cut off, ect). Thats why all this talk about chargers and cables that do not meet requirements burning equipment/phones up.
It will never know when to stop charging or if over charging and catch fire...
Thats why its not advisable to buy cheap no name unbranded batteries, cables and chargers.
Usb c isnt just a connector/ plug theres an ic (computer chip) in control as well on both sides.
The chip in your battery talks w the one in the phone that talks w the one in the charger..
Does anybody know of a car charger that does turbo charge the Moto Z? Apparently Motorola/Lenovo doesn't offer one and a third party QuickCharge 3.0 I tried failed...
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I got this one :Nekteck 5.4A USB-C Car Charger from Amazon for 15$ and it does turbo charge my phone .
I don't believe that the Z Force is set up for Qualcomm Quick Charge. And while it doesn't Turbo charge, I use the Verizon brand rapid USB-C car charger. I've also read that we have to be careful with what charging cables we use with our Z Force phones.
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zaki67 said:
I got this one :Nekteck 5.4A USB-C Car Charger from Amazon for 15$ and it does turbo charge my phone .
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Thank you, I will try that one then ?.
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I don't believe that the Z Force is set up for Qualcomm Quick Charge. And while it doesn't Turbo charge, I use the Verizon brand rapid USB-C car charger. I've also read that we have to be careful with what charging cables we use with our Z Force phones.
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At least Motorola claims it supports QuickCharge if I'm not mistaken. Apparently, though, it also has additional requirements for turbo charging to kick in... I looked at the Verizon charger, too, but a) there's not much info on its website, b) calling Verizon didn't help - they don't have a clue, and c) there is some comment / review saying that it "burned out" some user's battery (which is of course unconfirmed to be related to this charger, may have been something else).
Anyways, given the utter lack of info and the suspicion of harming the battery, I stayed away from it... not to mention the ridiculous $40 price tag.
On an other note, though, Verizon has the original Motorola TurboCharger (wall charger) at a 50% discount.
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At least Motorola claims it supports QuickCharge if I'm not mistaken. Apparently, though, it also has additional requirements for turbo charging to kick in... I looked at the Verizon charger, too, but a) there's not much info on its website, b) calling Verizon didn't help - they don't have a clue, and c) there is some comment / review saying that it "burned out" some user's battery (which is of course unconfirmed to be related to this charger, may have been something else).
Anyways, given the utter lack of info and the suspicion of harming the battery, I stayed away from it... not to mention the ridiculous $40 price tag.
On an other note, though, Verizon has the original Motorola TurboCharger (wall charger) at a 50% discount.
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No USB-C device can support Quick Charge - it violates the USB-C spec. Any quality USB-C charger that is higher amp will TurboCharge a phone. Moto screwed up by using TurboCharging name with both QuickCharge and USB-C - they are different.
The Moto Z is absurdly picky when it comes to quick charge specs.
I have a Blitzwolf QC2.0 with a type C and a Type A connector in my wifes car, and it will ONLY enter quick charge if I use the Type C to Type C cable I bought from Blitzwolf.
It will not turbo charge if I use a high end Type A to Type C cable, but my wifes LG G5 will do so happily.
I also bought a QC3 compatible charger, with the cable integrated like the original charger, and this works too, and is faster than the QC2 charger.
Both are definitely charging at more than 10 watts, the maximum for 5V 2A mode chargers.
And in fact, using a Non-QC 5V 3A charger, caused my cable to melt, and start to glow.
Incredibly my phone charging port survived.
Blitzwolf may very well be the only brand that works fully, as I just bought a Chuwi QC3 power bank, and it will refuse to quick charge my phone.
But works on some others.
And on another note, I used the Type C to Type C in a modern laptop a while back, and when I plugged it in, my phone displayed the message about receiving quick charge.
If I'm not mistaken, the Type C spec allows quick charging, but only if you use C to C, with the extra pins it's able to keep better track of the charging process I guess.
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The Moto Z is absurdly picky when it comes to quick charge specs.
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And on another note, I used the Type C to Type C in a modern laptop a while back, and when I plugged it in, my phone displayed the message about receiving quick charge.
If I'm not mistaken, the Type C spec allows quick charging, but only if you use C to C, with the extra pins it's able to keep better track of the charging process I guess.
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Yes, it seems all matter of cables...!
I have a Blitzwolf QC3.0 too BUT I'm able to obtain "Turbocharge" indication only using a *single* micro USB to type C adaptor. This with every cable and every charger. Even when connected to a USB port!
If I use every other cable or similar adaptors (I've tested many...), the "Turbocharge" never shows (except original charger obviously...).
With Blitzwolf QC3 and this cable/adaptor I got a full charge from less than 5% in about 70-75 min... during the charge cable was OK, while the adaptor (with metallic/aluminium exterior) was quite warm but never really hot in dangerous way...
Here's more information than any of you probably care about, but I'm tired of seeing the same misinformation and confusion being thrown around (not just in the Moto Z forum, but in a bunch of others, too).
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No USB-C device can support Quick Charge - it violates the USB-C spec.
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That's not true. Case in point: my ZTE Axon 7 and LeEco S3 both use QC 3.0 and both are USB-C. The common confusion comes from using "USB-C" (a connector) and "Type-C" (interchangeably used to refer to the connector and the power specification) incorrectly. Clarification below.
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Any quality USB-C charger that is higher amp will TurboCharge a phone. Moto screwed up by using TurboCharging name with both QuickCharge and USB-C - they are different.
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This is mostly true. "TurboPower" is the stupid name Moto uses to refer to the Type-C power specification. Actually, I'm being unfair: it's confusing that they called it "Type-C" in the first place and Moto took the opportunity to market the spec as their own thing.
Before going any further, let's use a common analogy to make the relationship between, wattage, voltage, and amperage easier to understand in broad terms. Wattage is the amount of water going through a pipe. Voltage is how fast that water is moving and amperage is the size of the pipe. 15W is 15W, but you can get there by having a tiny pipe (1A) with water moving really fast through it (15V) or a really big pipe (3A) with water going more slowly through it (5V). They both move the same amount of power, but in different ways. Got it? Good.
Anyway, Type-C has a fixed voltage and maxes out at 15W ([email protected]). Quick Charge 1.0 does only 10W ([email protected]), 2.0 does 18W (5/9/12V @ 3.6/2/1.5A respectively), and 3.0 does 18W with varying voltage (3.6-20V) and amperage (5-0.9A) to match. That is the advantage of QC over Type-C: a higher voltage can (usually) be run through those old and cheap USB cables without issue since voltage tolerance is determined largely by the phone and the charger. As long as the amperage doesn't exceed the capacity (gauge) of the wire, higher voltage is fine.
Amperage, though, that's what causes non-compliant or crappy cables to burn up. Really old or especially cheap cables can handle 1A max (heck, if they were built to spec, only 500mA for USB 2.0), but most cables of reasonable quality can handle 2A without much issue. They tend to use lower gauge (thicker) wires and should *not* feel warm at all when using it to charge. Some manufacturers (Samsung, for example) used to disable data on their USB cables and use it for additional amperage capacity, which is why you would occasionally buy a phone with a cable that wouldn't work for data transfer in the computer but would charge your phone just fine.
Moving on. Technically, QC 1.0 and QC 3.0 do not violate the Type-C power spec. QC 1.0 because it can't exceed it and QC 3.0 because it's variable. That said, QC 3.0 (and possibly QC 1.0, I don't know) require protocol negotiation; if that negotiation is lacking (in the case of the Moto Z), it's going to default to a "safe" charging rate (around 5W, plus or minus some). Your QC 2.0 does technically violate the Type-C spec because its voltage and amperage rates are fixed: you can get 5V at up to 3.6A. The "up to" bit is the important part. I have seen in various threads folks claiming their non-QC 3.0 phones will work with QC 2.0 chargers just fine and it's probably because the amperage tolerance is there (ie. it will actually allow 3.6A, violating spec) or it gets throttled (ie. sticks to 3A, keeping to spec).
Shadowdancer123 said:
The Moto Z is absurdly picky when it comes to quick charge specs.
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And in fact, using a Non-QC 5V 3A charger, caused my cable to melt, and start to glow.
Incredibly my phone charging port survived.
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If I'm not mistaken, the Type C spec allows quick charging, but only if you use C to C, with the extra pins it's able to keep better track of the charging process I guess.
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All Type-C and USB-PD compliant devices are picky about the charge specs, not just the Moto Z. Or, at least, they're supposed to be for the reasons outlined above (namely the amperage). QC devices are less picky because it frequently uses higher voltage, which we established above as being much more tolerable for cables of varying quality.
Your cable melting and glowing is to be expected when you push 3A through a cable that likely can't handle more than 2A or so. Your phone charging port survived because it's designed to handle 3A.
I'm not entirely sure about which pins do what on a USB-C connector, but you're right in the C-to-C is the only connection that (should, according to spec) support Type-C and USB-PD (Power Delivery). The rate is negotiated via the USB Power Delivery 2.0 "power rules", which define four acceptable voltages (5/9/15/20) and variable amperage (0.1-5) to obtain charge rates as low as 0.5W and as high as 100W. "Type-C" is part of the Power Delivery spec, but is usually limited to only the 5V rule. I'm fairly certain the Moto Z does not support anything past the first level power rule, which is why you likely won't find the Moto Z to charge significantly faster with the TurboPower 30 included with the Moto Z Force than it does with its original TurboPower 15 charger. No clue as to whether that's a hardware or software limitation.
Also, to answer the OP's original question: any reputable (Anker, Aukey, Choetech, Belkin, etc) that uses an actual USB-C port will work. Most (if not all) dual port units will have a USB-C port that will work with the Moto Z (or any other Type-C/USB-PD device) and a QC 3.0 compatible "traditional" USB-A port. I have yet to find one that includes two USB-C ports and I really hate the ones with integrated cables.
My personal favorite is the Choetech for $16 since its QC 3.0 USB-A port is reversible: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01AAGH8OY/
This Aukey is cheaper ($15) and would be fine: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01E764DXM/
Here's a Tronsmart for $16, as well: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B018K7LHBU/
Even this $10 Vinsic should be okay: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B014F2NQ36/
Just for funsies, here's a spreadsheet of the Benson Leung cable and charger tests: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wJwqv3rTNmORXz-XJsQaXK1dl8I91V4-eP_sfNVNzbA/edit#gid=0
Interestingly, the $10 Vinsic is on his list of approved. So there. Go buy a $10 car charger and be happy.
I have the aukey 6 port usb charging station with two QC 3.0 ports, I am using high quality braided usb 3.0 to type c cables - I have tested both QC 3.0 ports and the other ports (using ampere) - Every port lists charging as "normal" - QC port 1 shows a min of 640mA and a max of 1040mA. QC Port 2 shows - min of 530 mA and a max of 980 mA. Regular ports 3-6 all show a min of 270mA and max of 870 mA. Not one port indicated it was ever turbo or fast charging. This same charger does fast charge my lg G5 and Samsung S7 Edge.
this one is verified to give the "TurboPower connected" message when plugged in.
From what I have read, both QC 2.0 and 3.0 doesn't turbo charge moto phones. Qualcomms QC charging works by increasing the voltage and decreasing the amps. So you can have 12v and 2amp for a total of 24 watts, but that won't turbo charge the moto z. Moto works on 5 volts but needs at least 3 amps. It is the amps that seem to engage the Motos into turbo charge mode, and they have to be at least 3 amps.
This Belkin model, for example, is what Benson Leung uses for his pixel xl. Its one of the few on Amazon that is USB-IF certified for 5v 3amp.
rczrider said:
Here's more information than any of you probably care about, but I'm tired of seeing the same misinformation and confusion being thrown around (not just in the Moto Z forum, but in a bunch of others, too).
That's not true. Case in point: my ZTE Axon 7 and LeEco S3 both use QC 3.0 and both are USB-C. The common confusion comes from using "USB-C" (a connector) and "Type-C" (interchangeably used to refer to the connector and the power specification) incorrectly. Clarification below.
Moving on. Technically, QC 1.0 and QC 3.0 do not violate the Type-C power spec. QC 1.0 because it can't exceed it and QC 3.0 because it's variable. That said, QC 3.0 (and possibly QC 1.0, I don't know) require protocol negotiation; if that negotiation is lacking (in the case of the Moto Z), it's going to default to a "safe" charging rate (around 5W, plus or minus some). Your QC 2.0 does technically violate the Type-C spec because its voltage and amperage rates are fixed: you can get 5V at up to 3.6A. The "up to" bit is the important part. I have seen in various threads folks claiming their non-QC 3.0 phones will work with QC 2.0 chargers just fine and it's probably because the amperage tolerance is there (ie. it will actually allow 3.6A, violating spec) or it gets throttled (ie. sticks to 3A, keeping to spec).
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I think you are propagating mis-information. If you want to catch up on why QC 2.0/3.0 violate the USB-C spec, here it is from the horses mouth:
https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung/posts/cEvVQLXhyRX
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...omm-quick-charge-with-android-incompatibility
Interestingly Qualcomm has QC 4.0 now and they call out integration with USB-C and USB-PD https://www.qualcomm.com/news/relea...livers-20-faster-charging-improved-efficiency
"Quick Charge 4 also integrates USB Type-C and USB-PD support, making the industry’s most popular battery charging solution available on the widest variety of cables and adapters."
USB-C has 24 pins while standard USB-A has 4. Quick Charge chargers (2.0/3.0) only have the 4 pins of USB-A - so if it can't use the data lines, then it can't quick charge via USB-C. Since there are only 4 outputs, plugging a USB-C cable into a QC 2.0/3.0 charger will not change anything. Still only 4 wires originating from the charger. The data lines are not allowed to be used for voltage, so your QC charger will only supply a fixed 5V to the phone. So no Quick Charge.
If QC3 supports [email protected] couldn't it supply power at [email protected] to turbocharge?
Looking for a solution to turbocharge my Moto Z and support QC3 for LG G5/Samsung S7.
The TurboPower 15 wall charger delivers hours of power in just minutes of charging. It includes micro USB and single USB charging cables so you can use it on compatible smartphones, tablets, digital cameras and more.
Have a Moto Z or another USB-C enabled device? The TurboPower 30 wall charger is USB-C compatible.
Looking for a car charger? Shop at Motorola Home.
zaki67 said:
I got this one :Nekteck 5.4A USB-C Car Charger from Amazon for 15$ and it does turbo charge my phone .
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Just ordered one of these. This one specifically
Hopefully it'll work out well
This one works fine.
https://store.google.com/product/belkin_15w_usb_c_car_charger
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This one works fine.
https://store.google.com/product/belkin_15w_usb_c_car_charger
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YES! I can confirm it!
I've got about five of the 25W Turbochargers that I used to power my Moto X Pure. I've got some adapters to use for the USB-C connection but I'm worried about whether the 25W Turbocharger is too much for the Moto Z simply because it came with a 15W Turbocharger.
Can someone shine some light on this?
Thank you.
By using an adapter I believe your charging speed will be reduced anyway. I don't believe turbocharging works using an adapter.
The technologies are different. The Moto X Pure "Turbo Charger" used Quick Charge 2.0 (qualcomm) and the max wattage is derived by upping the volts to 12 and amps to 2.15 ~ 25 watts. USB-C doesn't allow this. Qualcomm uses the data lines to signal the voltage changes. Your 25W Turbo charger also does 5V @2.8A (max) - and the USB-C spec only supports 5V. The Z TurboCharger is just a standard USB-C charger that can put out 3A at 5V.
If you use a converter on your 25W Turbo Charger, it will never supply more then the [email protected] 2.85A, but likely less as the phone may only see it as a standard charger. It will charge faster as it probably will supply about 2Amps. But it probably won't be as fast as the USB-C Turbocharger. USB-C has extra signaling lines that the older Micro-USB doesn't have.
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The technologies are different. The Moto X Pure "Turbo Charger" used Quick Charge 2.0 (qualcomm) and the max wattage is derived by upping the volts to 12 and amps to 2.15 ~ 25 watts. USB-C doesn't allow this. Qualcomm uses the data lines to signal the voltage changes. Your 25W Turbo charger also does 5V @2.8A (max) - and the USB-C spec only supports 5V. The Z TurboCharger is just a standard USB-C charger that can put out 3A at 5V.
If you use a converter on your 25W Turbo Charger, it will never supply more then the [email protected] 2.85A, but likely less as the phone may only see it as a standard charger. It will charge faster as it probably will supply about 2Amps. But it probably won't be as fast as the USB-C Turbocharger. USB-C has extra signaling lines that the older Micro-USB doesn't have.
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Thank you. I picked up an Anker adapter and you're right. It does charge at a decent speed, I'm assuming it is getting the 2A - but definitely no TurboPower here.
I'm a little sad that I invested so much in chargers and backup battery packs that would Turbocharge my Moto X Pure.
I didn't realize USB-C was that much more than just a plug change.
I own the Moto Z that came with Motorola 15w Turbo Charger (the grey turbo writing on the USB-C end, it's also the All-in-one charger too) but I wanted a substitute incase anything were to happen to it so
I purchased a bunch of USB-C to USB-A Cables, I also purchased two quick chargers. The first being the:
Tronsmart Rapid Wall Charger QC 3.0 18W, which is supposed to output 3.6V-6.5V/3A, 6.5V-9V/2A, 9V-12V/1.5A. And the second, the:
Motorola Turbo Charger QC 2.0 15W, which outputs Standard: 5V / 1.67A (8W) TurboPower 1: 9V / 1.67A (15W) TurboPower 2: 12V / 1.2A (15W)
Neither of these two chargers managed to trigger the "TurboPower Connected" pop up, I also downloaded Ampere and did some tests on them, but they show that the amperage caps at 1500mAh. Is there a reason for this and also could somebody suggest a guaranteed substitute charger that triggers the pop up?
Kibu21 said:
I own the Moto Z that came with Motorola 15w Turbo Charger (the grey turbo writing on the USB-C end, it's also the All-in-one charger too) but I wanted a substitute incase anything were to happen to it so
I purchased a bunch of USB-C to USB-A Cables, I also purchased two quick chargers. The first being the:
Tronsmart Rapid Wall Charger QC 3.0 18W, which is supposed to output 3.6V-6.5V/3A, 6.5V-9V/2A, 9V-12V/1.5A. And the second, the:
Motorola Turbo Charger QC 2.0 15W, which outputs Standard: 5V / 1.67A (8W) TurboPower 1: 9V / 1.67A (15W) TurboPower 2: 12V / 1.2A (15W)
Neither of these two chargers managed to trigger the "TurboPower Connected" pop up, I also downloaded Ampere and did some tests on them, but they show that the amperage caps at 1500mAh. Is there a reason for this and also could somebody suggest a guaranteed substitute charger that triggers the pop up?
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Are you using a Motorola turbo charge brick? Like the one in the box with the Nexus 6. If not then there's your issue. You can only acquire turbo charging speed through one of those and it'll turbo charge your phone through any USB cable since the cable is only a vessel used to flow voltage. Hope this helps!
Motorola SPN5864A TurboPower 15 Charger with Original Data/Charging Cable https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01012U6D2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_T1QQybJJS0ZW5
I have the first turbo charger (QC2) and it didn't work on my Moto Z. I think that Z isn't compatible with Qualcomm Quick Charge technology; Moto probably uses USB-C capabilities for the Turbo Charge.
(haha sorry for my bad english)
galopez783 said:
I have the first turbo charger (QC2) and it didn't work on my Moto Z. I think that Z isn't compatible with Qualcomm Quick Charge technology; Moto probably uses USB-C capabilities for the Turbo Charge.
(haha sorry for my bad english)
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Thank you for your response, I found out that using a fast charger that has a USB-C output on the charger, triggers the TurboPower Charge. So you would need a USB-C to USB-C cable with an Output Fast Charger of USB-C, as the charging current is higher.
galopez783 said:
I have the first turbo charger (QC2) and it didn't work on my Moto Z. I think that Z isn't compatible with Qualcomm Quick Charge technology; Moto probably uses USB-C capabilities for the Turbo Charge.
(haha sorry for my bad english)
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Are you using a Motorola turbo charge brick? Like the one in the box with the Nexus 6. If not then there's your issue. You can only acquire turbo charging speed through one of those and it'll turbo charge your phone through any USB cable since the cable is only a vessel used to flow voltage. Hope this helps!
Motorola SPN5864A TurboPower 15 Charger with Original Data/Charging Cable https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01012U6D2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_T1QQybJJS0ZW5
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Thank you for your response, I bought a fast charger with a USB-C output, that came with a USB-C to USB-C cable and it triggered the TurboPower pop up.
If you can get to a Verizon Wireless store or just want to hit them up on their website, the TurboPower 30 is currently on sale for $19.
https://www.verizonwireless.com/accessories/motorola-turbopower-30-usb-type-c-wall-charger/
Check this out:
Replacement turbo charger
Hey derdjango, did you order and test this charger? Is it original or at least compareable to the stock charger?
Location is China - maybe this is a fake/replica.
Thanks!
Same charger for even less: http://www.ebay.de/itm/152549160402 / http://www.ebay.com/itm/152549160402
Ordered one today. In a month or so I can give you guys feedback.
Hey Weirdos,
left replacement, right out of the box charger (EU).
TurboPower connected :good:
USB-C charging cable supports 3A current while normal micro USB charging cable only supports 1.8A current, so you need an Original Data/Charging USB-C cable.
I lost my turbo charger and yesterday i charged Moto Z with the original charger from my Zuk z1. And guess what...turbo charging enabled. Then i tried the Zuk Z2 charger and it also turbo charges. I know that Zuk and Moto are both Lenovo, but i did not expect it to work with a charger from 2015.
Maybe comes handy if someone has those lying around. I pressume chargers from Zuk Edge and 2 Pro should also be turbocharging the Z
Does turbo charging require anything special?
Or are these normal chargers with 3A/USB C?
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Does turbo charging require anything special?
Or are these normal chargers with 3A/USB C?
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Charger with hardwired USB C cable or charger with USB C port with an USB C to C cable. And rated for 3A. As far as I know that would be the things needed.
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Is charging Moto by old chargers unrecommended (1A, 5V)? I've read, that fast charging kills our batteries faster than normal
I Just ordered the OP6. Just wondering if there is any harm using other type C charger beside the Dash charger. I have multiple type C charger that's Benson approved charger
u just cannot enjoy the fast charging that you not using dash charger and cable. :cyclops:
I use a Pixel charger on my 5T all the time. I believe it's perfectly fine as long as it's a sound charger. Look for Benson's list to find good chargers.
As long as you're not buying cheap ebay chinese "quickcharge" chargers, anything should be fine. Name brand and even most chinese no name ones as long as they're not stupid cheap will simply not provide the incorrect voltage. Phones that can use say 9v or 20v or whatever they're up to now have special hardware and firmware to tell the charger to provide a higher voltage, so using a charger designed for them with a 5v standard phone would at worst not work and more likely just charge at a normal speed.
The problem using other quick chargers is that takes forever to charge vs the dash chargers