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o2 xda Orbit II.....AAC Files

Please could someone help or explain.I purchased the orbit II last week,I am still getting used to its power and capabilities.
In the manual it says it can play AAC files.I have downloaded some onto the storage card and the touch flo player hasnt recognised them, nor has the windows media player.
It recognises and plays MP3 files.The aac files are not protected they are ones that I downloaded myself from my own cds.
Also why can I not see photos that I have just taken that are saved to my storage card,in the photo viewer on Touch flo.
Thank you in advance for any help,
Peter

pocketmusic can play aac

Thansk for that,but I was looking to find out what the situation was with the phone rather than get a programme that will do something that the manufacturers are saying the phone should do.
I have noticed that the windows media player does add the tunes to its catalogue but files them under ARTIST "UNKNOWN" (as though the tags arent working).The touch flo or HTC player however doesnt even do this.
Does anybody know of a solution to this other than spending money on a progamme to do something that the phone should do already,
many thanks
Peter15965

It's really wierd. I have the same problem and also had this problem with my previous phone which was an O2 XDA Orbit 1 (i.e. rebranded HTC Artemis).
I'm afraid that I never found a solution that didn't involve third party software. I think the problem is that, although HTC have included the decoder to play AAC and AAC+ files, neither of the built in players seem to be able to read the tags from the m4a container format so, although they can play the contents, they can't incorporate the tracks in a meaningful way into the library (I also saw Windows Media Player putting everything as unknown).
I know it's not what you were hoping to hear, and I'd love for someone to prove me wrong, but right now I think you're stuck with going the third-party route.
If you don't want to spend money then I initially used TCPMP. It doesn't have any library browser built in but I found that by intelligent choice of the directory tree structure I used to store my files (My Music/<Artist>/<Album>/<Tracks>) then I could use the file browser in TCPMP to browse my collection in a fairly convenient manner. I now use Conduits PocketPlayer because that has a fantastic library browser and reads the m4a tags perfectly; the program is pretty resource hungry but for now I'm keeping the faith in the hope that they'll address that at some point in the future (their support is good).
- Julian

Thanks Julian at least I know its a common problem(does 2 handsets constitute common).
I will look into pocketplayer as a solution for the timebeing.I was hoping I wouldnt have to put other apps on that would slow the phone down.
Thanks again
Peter15965

peter15965 said:
Thanks Julian at least I know its a common problem(does 2 handsets constitute common).
I will look into pocketplayer as a solution for the timebeing.I was hoping I wouldnt have to put other apps on that would slow the phone down.
Thanks again
Peter15965
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You're welcome.
In most cases putting other apps on shouldn't slow down the phone. The reason apps can slow down the phone (and/or drain battery) can be because they have a Today plugin which, if not well written or if it needs to keep accessing the network, can slow things down. If an app does have a Today plugin (as PocketPlayer does) then you can often disable it (as you can for PocketPlayer).
The other reason for third party apps to slow down the phone is because Windows Mobile default behaviour when you click the top-right "x" button is to minimise the app (i.e. leave it running in the background) rather than close it down completely. Again, in this case an app that does anything significant when it is running in the background can slow down the phone. Clearly a music player needs to keep running while it is playing music but, once finished, you can make sure it is out of memory completely by selecting Exit from the application's menu.
In short, if you're careful to fully close apps when you don't need them, then you shouldn't slow down your phone at all (except so far as having a music player running in the background, whether built in or third party, will always put a drain on the CPU and make other apps run more slowly while the music is playing).
- Julian

Oops. One big thing I forgot to mention. If you do look at PocketPlayer then don't download the latest version (3.51) from their web site. There is a nasty problem in that build specifically related to playing AAC files on HTC devices that I reported to them and has been fixed in an internal beta for 3.52 which, as the reporter of the bug, I have been given to test. You should email [email protected] and say that you want to use it for AAC on an HTC device and hopefully they (Carrie) will let you try out a beta build with the issue fixed.
The issue by the way is that 3.51 doesn't correctly detect end-of-stream when an AAC track has finished so (a) it doesn't auto-advance to the next track in the playlist because it thinks the current track hasn't finished yet and (b) even worse, if you forget to explicitly turn off your device after you've finished listening then PocketPlayer thinks it is still playing your last track and so the device will not put itself into standby and can drain the battery. The issue is fixed in the latest beta build and as an added bonus it also parses m4a tags natively (in 3.51 you could tag your collection by using an option in PocketPlayer to infer the tags from the filenames used in your folder structure but it now reads the real tags in the latest beta).
There is also one other more obscure problem I'm trying to help them diagnose related to AAC on HTC devices but I've been a bit busy recently so am due to give them some feedback and check status on that today or tomorrow. This may or may not be fixed at this stage, I can probably give more feedback in a couple of days so personally I would hold off until I give you an update. If you definitely want to go ahead with a beta build then I can give you a workaround that works most of the time.
- Julian

Thanks again Julian, a fantastic answer by all accounts.I will hold off until you get an answer back about the problems you mention.
Thanks again for a most comprehensive answer.How will we know when the fix is through?
Peter15965

peter15965 said:
Thanks again Julian, a fantastic answer by all accounts.I will hold off until you get an answer back about the problems you mention.
Thanks again for a most comprehensive answer.How will we know when the fix is through?
Peter15965
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I emailed them this afternoon and got the answer. They've fixed the problem and I'm about to install a new beta to check it's OK. Apparently it was a Windows Mobile bug that they've managed to work around. I'll play with this new update pretty extensively tomorrow so you should get an answer from me in about 24 hours.
- Julian

peter15965 said:
I have downloaded some onto the storage card and the touch flo player hasnt recognised them, nor has the windows media player.
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I found out some interesting thing: Some files are playing correctly but others refuse to work. I think that has to do with the bitrate of the files. All my m4a-files are bought from Apple Music Store. Most times my files are the unprotected ones with higher bitrate, but I have a few files which were protected (unfortunately I must have lost the copy protection somewhere, I'm really sorry for that ). The protected ones were encoded in a lower bitrate. What I found out is, that all my former protected files are played correctly. So maybe Windows Media Player can only handle files up to certain bitrate which obviously should be lower than 256kbps.
Further test: I created a playlist within windows mobile, but the Audio Manager (Touch Flo) wasn't able to read it. I managed that the playlist was recognized by the program, but it couldn't find any files.
So it is possible to play aac files (up to a certain bitrate) and to create playlists in Windows Media Player without any issues (yet). But I couldn't get it working in TouchFlo.
So, ok, I made half the way. Now it's up to you to make it fully functional.

have the same issue, I see the AAC file in the explorer and can play them from there but they are not loaded in the catalogue. anybody any other idea how to make the visible there? is buying pocket player the only solution?
thanks for the help in advance to everybody

JulianL said:
I emailed them this afternoon and got the answer. They've fixed the problem and I'm about to install a new beta to check it's OK. Apparently it was a Windows Mobile bug that they've managed to work around. I'll play with this new update pretty extensively tomorrow so you should get an answer from me in about 24 hours.
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The news isn't as positive as I'd hoped. The latest build has improved the problem (so at least they've identified it and found the right area to make changes) but it hasn't fixed it completely.
The player is still usable with AAC files but there is one glitch. After it's been playing for a while, say about 2 hours, then something seems to get corrupted in the image or via a bug in Windows Mobile itself such that thumbnails of the artwork for the album covers no longer display properly when browsing your music library. With the previous build the device would lock up at this point and require a soft reset so at least they've fixed that problem but there is still some sort of issue unresolved.
The workaround seems to be to just fully exit PocketPlayer every couple of hours and then re-launch it again so it's not too arduous and shouldn't prevent you playing with the trial version (although this partially-fixed beta isn't publicly available so you will need to contact support to see if they'll give it to you and given that it still has a known issue they might just ask you to wait a bit).
I'm obviously still working with them to try and 100% nail this issue.
- Julian

ESPN3 on g-tablet

With the installation of flash, I was hoping to be able to watch games streamed from ESPN3. When clicking a link to watch a live stream, the player window opens, but it remains blank.
I tried this on the stock browser, and on Firefox mobile (fennec). Anyone else tried it?
My g-tablet:
Stock Tap'nTap with 1.01 update
LauncherPro
Rooted

ESPN on g-tablet
You may want to verify that your flash setup is working properly. I also have Tnt 1.01 + flash (folio apk), and ESPN3 live streams work fine for me. I'm watching Boston College vs. Texas A&M right now. The only difference is that my gtablet is not rooted.

Butch1326 said:
You may want to verify that your flash setup is working properly.
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How might I do this?
Does it involve editing the stagefright setting in the build.prop file? I seem to recall something about this.
What browser are you using?

It works for me in Dolphin HD on TNTLite 2.0 with the Flash fix.

Go to the adobe flash website (search in google for Adobe - Flash Player
Once the website page is loaded, if it's working properly, the flash logo will appear and it will tell you flash is installed successfully.
I'm using the stock browser that comes with the gtablet.

OK.
I edited the first line of where "stagefright" is listed, in the build.prop file. I changed it to "false". I rebooted and started the default browser. ESPN3 streaming is now working. I will also try it in Firefox.

I want to say that the quality of the streamed video is great!
Since I am a Linux user, flash video in general sucked. Mainly because Adobe refuses to make a Linux version that has hardware acceleration. I have resorted to booting an old WinXP HTPC that I have, when I need to watch a game on ESPN3. That picture was OK, with occasional hiccups. The video on the g-tablet is about the same. Since this is Linux based, I did not expect it.
Still haven't tried it on Firefox.

The video window still remains blank on Firefox Mobile. I guess it is a Firefox issue, not a g-tab or Android issue.
Does anyone know what the default browser is? I heard that it may be the Google Chrome browser. I installed Google Chrome on my Atom based netbook, but the video is horribly choppy. If I could install OpenOffice/LibreOffice on the tablet, the netbook would be history!

Video Not Optimized For Mobile Device

Hi all.
I purchased this device mostly to be used as a companion for when I stream to Justin.TV. This website uses both flash video and java at the same time. I want to monitor my video stream and the chat while I play. I know I could of got a netbook for this, but I would like the tablet for doing other things.
Some streams with lower quality work good for me, but my stream does not play. The stream will freeze, but I am able to hear the audio. My stream is in flash and is 720p, 3000kbps, H.264.
I tried some other 720p flash video and received the message "Video Not Optimized For Mobile Device". (Uh, yeah, that's why I bought a tablet and not a phone). Obviously this is because of the Android OS and not the hardware?
So I am half-happy because I can see the chat, but not the video. Is there anything I can do to help this? I am running TnT 2.2.0 with the flash player linked to in the thread.
If this can't be fixed for now, does anyone think it will be resolved in the future? Perhaps a better Flash apk that supports the Tegra better? Or would I be better with the new Viewsonic Viewpad?
Thanks

A lot of this is bleeding edge. We are using a phone OS that has been modded for tablets and not supported by Google (yet). And, the Tegra itself is relatively new and has had issues because of it.
In six months, I expect that a lot of these issues with be old news. But for now, it's a problem.

Which browser are using? Have you tried Dolphin HD and changed the User Agent to desktop?

For my stream I get the same results with the default browser and Dolphin HD, but for some reason with Dolphin HD I am forced to the mobile site every time. Even with user agent set to Desktop. So I can't try the HD flash video with Dolphin.
There is no mobile version of my stream.
Based on roebeet's post, I guess i'll stick it out and hope it gets better. I am already somewhat happy because I can run Ventrilo and see the chat at the same time. That's already more than my iPad can do.
Now if I can just get the USB keyboard working.
Thanks for the replies.

[Q] Flash Lite No Longer Default Player in Opera Mobile

I'm not very technologically inclined but I have almost given up and decided to ask the experts:
I have a Palm Treo Pro with Windows Mobile 6.1 in which I have used Opera Mobile 10 since I got it. I have also had Flash Lite since the beginning and it has worked perfectly, I could visit Youtube and a grey box with a play button in the center would allow me to play the videos directly in the browser, tapping to go fullscreen.
Recently without any major changes to my phone I tried visiting Youtube and instead of the grey box for playing the video no longer appears. I click "Watch Video" and instead it launches Media Player Mobile which doesn't work anyways with Youtube for some reason. One day flash would play in the browser, and the next day it launches Media Player instead??
Plug-ins are set to ON, I have tried reinstalling Opera Mobile, Flash Lite, installed different versions and different combinations of versions for about two months now. I finally reset my phone to factory settings and started fresh, but still problems. I have no clue what I changed but I don't know why it wont allow me to play flash videos in Opera Mobile anymore. Instead it launches a player outside of Opera Mobile.
Question: How do I make Flash Lite my default Opera Mobile player? I want the grey box with the play button to watch in the browser. Now any flash videos don't show on pages, and any links to the video just launch in Media Player. I need the flash videos to quit launching to Media Player and show up/give me the option to play right in the browser.
P.S. from my googling it seems opera mobile and flash are a tricky subject?? I just don't understand what changed as I didn't really mess with anything.

Perhaps the issue isn't at your end at all. As time goes on older devices are going to get less and less support. Perhaps it's time for an upgrade?

I know I could use a new phone and how quickly things become obsolete. I'm not sure what would have changed in support or compatibility as no upgrades or version changes have been made.
Well I was able to figure my flash is at least working correctly after downloading and trying another mobile browser. Its only the problem of Opera now using Media Player as its default software for playing. There are no settings I can find for this but if I could switch the default player to the Flash that I have installed.
I was under the impression Opera should use the flash plugin automatically when I go in and enable plugins in Opera. It did this without problem until recently I wonder if Media Player launched and set itself as default player or something. There are no settings in Opera or Media Player for file associations, etc. I have tried looking in the .ini files for Opera as someone has suggested to me but no luck. Hopefully I will be able to get a new phone soon :/

[Bug Report] MX Pro 1.7.32 crashes after playing every vid

Hi--I have used this a long time, suddenly it has become non-functional, I suspect due to the 1.7.32 update, but not sure.
--Android 4.3 (I've avoided 4.4 to retain full functionality of the SD card...)
--MX Pro 1.7.32
--Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 2014
--Could not follow directions for alogcat because the nature of the problem makes MX unuseable once it crashes--there is no way to hit the "settings" button in MX Player Pro at that point.
PROBLEM
So, I bring up my file list as per normal. I click on a vid. The vid does not play. In fact, there is merely a blank screen. Eventually I'm returned to the home screen of the tablet and advised that MX Player has crashed. Sometimes, I don't even get the blank screen. It just automatically disappears and returns me to the tablet's home screen. Once that happens, the program never works again (until reinstalled or data cleared) and won't even let me into the program. Clicking its icon simply brings up a blank screen, then I get "Unfortunately, MX Player Pro has stopped..."
Troubleshooting
I have tried clearing cache, data and also reinstalling. The last two DO allow me to once again bring up the File List from "folders view." It looks normal once again. However, once I try to play vids, the same, exact result occurs, i.e., nothing actually plays and the program crashes with the screen going blank.
CLUES
a) I also have this on my phone, where it continues to work fine, but on my phone, I only have a handful of FLVs. The tablet has lots of other formats, primarily mp4. On my Note 4 phone, however, I'm running 4.4 KitKat.
b) If I access the video in a roundabout fashion, by clicking on it from a File Manager, the File Manager then offers to play it with the native vid player OR Mx Player. Then, it works fine. The exact same video. Of course, then I can't access any other parts of the MX P program, and I am no longer able to use the file list Mx Player P builds.
c) I tried playing with various settings, like hardware decoder, and what not, but it did not seem to help much.
My thought is that the version supporting Lollipop has done something that Samsung does not like in conjunction with 4.3
Any thoughts welcomed. TIA

monsieurms said:
Hi--I have used this a long time, suddenly it has become non-functional, I suspect due to the 1.7.32 update, but not sure.
--Android 4.3 (I've avoided 4.4 to retain full functionality of the SD card...)
--MX Pro 1.7.32
--Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 2014
--Could not follow directions for alogcat because the nature of the problem makes MX unuseable once it crashes--there is no way to hit the "settings" button in MX Player Pro at that point.
PROBLEM
So, I bring up my file list as per normal. I click on a vid. The vid does not play. In fact, there is merely a blank screen. Eventually I'm returned to the home screen of the tablet and advised that MX Player has crashed. Sometimes, I don't even get the blank screen. It just automatically disappears and returns me to the tablet's home screen. Once that happens, the program never works again (until reinstalled or data cleared) and won't even let me into the program. Clicking its icon simply brings up a blank screen, then I get "Unfortunately, MX Player Pro has stopped..."
Troubleshooting
I have tried clearing cache, data and also reinstalling. The last two DO allow me to once again bring up the File List from "folders view." It looks normal once again. However, once I try to play vids, the same, exact result occurs, i.e., nothing actually plays and the program crashes with the screen going blank.
CLUES
a) I also have this on my phone, where it continues to work fine, but on my phone, I only have a handful of FLVs. The tablet has lots of other formats, primarily mp4. On my Note 4 phone, however, I'm running 4.4 KitKat.
b) If I access the video in a roundabout fashion, by clicking on it from a File Manager, the File Manager then offers to play it with the native vid player OR Mx Player. Then, it works fine. The exact same video. Of course, then I can't access any other parts of the MX P program, and I am no longer able to use the file list Mx Player P builds.
c) I tried playing with various settings, like hardware decoder, and what not, but it did not seem to help much.
My thought is that the version supporting Lollipop has done something that Samsung does not like in conjunction with 4.3
Any thoughts welcomed. TIA
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Already there is a sticky thread in which I have already explained the procedure to collect the log immediately after crash.
Install MX Log collector app
Open It immediately after the MX Player Crash
Save the logs & Upload here
Does it crashes in all decoders?
If you are using H/W+ disable it & Check again.
long press the video & select Play using | S/W decoder
Check whether it still crashes or not.

ktsamy said:
Already there is a sticky thread in which I have already explained the procedure to collect the log immediately after crash.
Install MX Log collector app
Open It immediately after the MX Player Crash
Save the logs & Upload here
Does it crashes in all decoders?
If you are using H/W+ disable it & Check again.
long press the video & select Play using | S/W decoder
Check whether it still crashes or not.
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It does not matter whether or not I use HW or SW decoding.
I upgraded the tablet to KitKat. That did not matter either.
I tried to upload the log files from MX Log here. Each time (3x now!) it gave me "invalid file" and refused to accept the upload. Oh, well.

monsieurms said:
It does not matter whether or not I use HW or SW decoding.
I upgraded the tablet to KitKat. That did not matter either.
I tried to upload the log files from MX Log here. Each time (3x now!) it gave me "invalid file" and refused to accept the upload. Oh, well.
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You can upload to any file sharing network like dropbox & post the link here.
If you are not allowed to post the links, use masking like h**p://www.google.com

ktsamy said:
You can upload to any file sharing network like dropbox & post the link here.
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It would not let me post links even with asterisks. I took out the http in its entirety. That didn't work either. I took out the dropbox reference as well. That did not work either. Have no clue at this point.
*Indeed, it wouldn't even let me quote your post with the partial link you referenced.

monsieurms said:
It would not let me post links even with asterisks. I took out the http in its entirety. That didn't work either. I took out the dropbox reference as well. That did not work either. Have no clue at this point.
*Indeed, it wouldn't even let me quote your post with the partial link you referenced.
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Uncheck "auto parse links" at the bottom of the post reply page.

drop****box.com/s/l4mzbrlj0sh1ajf/build.prop?dl=0
drop******box.com/s/n18by6pewz706de/log.txt.gz?dl=0

another data point
FYI, just in case it helps, not as a "zing," BS Player works fine and normally. MX continues to work (on tablet and despite recent updates) only when a file is clicked from My Files file manager. It just won't deal with its own list of videos.

monsieurms said:
FYI, just in case it helps, not as a "zing," BS Player works fine and normally. MX continues to work (on tablet and despite recent updates) only when a file is clicked from My Files file manager. It just won't deal with its own list of videos.
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@monsieurms There was an issue on Note 10.1 2014 European ROM and it might be fixed on 1.7.34
Please try latest version also try clear app data, MX Player's internal database looks like corrupted. This issue is also fixed but once corrupted database will never be recovered.

bleu8888 said:
@monsieurms There was an issue on Note 10.1 2014 European ROM and it might be fixed on 1.7.34
Please try latest version also try clear app data, MX Player's internal database looks like corrupted. This issue is also fixed but once corrupted database will never be recovered.
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I tried it again--I'd already done that after upgrading to 1.7.3.4---but it did not help. I am not in Europe---North America.

monsieurms said:
I tried it again--I'd already done that after upgrading to 1.7.3.4---but it did not help. I am not in Europe---North America.
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@monsieurms Would you send log again using 1.7.34? Thanks!

Given your comment on list db corruption and the fact that some vids in small directories do work, I tried copying all the vids to a new directory. That didn't work.
I cleared data again and also downloade the arm7 Neon custom codec specified in the Decoder settings. That did not help either. (It did find and install the codec.)

With the clues you gave me, I experimented a little. In particular, I noticed that some vids in small folders (small in terms of # of videos), played fine. I thought at first, as mentioned earlier in the thread, it was a difference in format. But as we've seen, all the videos play fine if accessed from File Manager--so that's not it. With the addition of your clue on database corruption, I thought perhaps the issue was folder size. I divided the one large folder into two, 50-50. That fixed it.
I would say you have still an issue here---the program chokes with a large of vids in the database. It doesn't seem to bother other programs, including the native video player and BS, and it didn't seem to bother MXp Pro until the recent wave of updates. So, I suspect something went wrong somewhere.

monsieurms said:
With the clues you gave me, I experimented a little. In particular, I noticed that some vids in small folders (small in terms of # of videos), played fine. I thought at first, as mentioned earlier in the thread, it was a difference in format. But as we've seen, all the videos play fine if accessed from File Manager--so that's not it. With the addition of your clue on database corruption, I thought perhaps the issue was folder size. I divided the one large folder into two, 50-50. That fixed it.
I would say you have still an issue here---the program chokes with a large of vids in the database. It doesn't seem to bother other programs, including the native video player and BS, and it didn't seem to bother MXp Pro until the recent wave of updates. So, I suspect something went wrong somewhere.
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Would you send log using 1.7.34 or test version on following link?
https://sites.google.com/site/mxvpen/translation/test-build