Can I root the Nexus without unlock the bootloader and install a custom recovery?
I was thinking to only boot the TWRP and flash SuperSU but the botloader must be unlocked... so there is a way to root without unlock bootloader and install a custom recovery?
Giolte_ said:
Can I root the Nexus without unlock the bootloader and install a custom recovery?
I was thinking to only boot the TWRP and flash SuperSU but the botloader must be unlocked... so there is a way to root without unlock bootloader and install a custom recovery?
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Out of curiosity, why don't you want to unlock your bootloader?
Giolte_ said:
Can I root the Nexus without unlock the bootloader and install a custom recovery?
I was thinking to only boot the TWRP and flash SuperSU but the botloader must be unlocked... so there is a way to root without unlock bootloader and install a custom recovery?
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Yes there is. You can root with towelroot then use twrp manager
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_MetalHead_ said:
Out of curiosity, why don't you want to unlock your bootloader?
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The temper flag, if I unlock and lock again the tamper flag will be true and I'll have to reset it in case of problems like eMMC, and in many cases the user can't reset it, so I can't claim LG warranty..
jd1639 said:
Yes there is. You can root with towelroot then use twrp manager
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Mmm... I heard many bad stories about Towelroot and TWRP Manager... this is the only alternative way?
Giolte_ said:
The temper flag, if I unlock and lock again the tamper flag will be true and I'll have to reset it in case of problems like eMMC, and in many cases the user can't reset it, so I can't claim LG warranty..
Mmm... I heard many bad stories about Towelroot and TWRP Manager... this is the only alternative way?
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Only way without unlocking the boot loader. You can also use bootunlocker from the play store to reset the tamper flag if you're rooted.
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Giolte_ said:
The temper flag, if I unlock and lock again the tamper flag will be true and I'll have to reset it in case of problems like eMMC, and in many cases the user can't reset it, so I can't claim LG warranty..
Mmm... I heard many bad stories about Towelroot and TWRP Manager... this is the only alternative way?
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Unlock, root, relock, untamper?
Mmm.. understood, thanks, I think that I'm gonna unlock and untamp, hoping that everything will be ok.. I'm losing hopes with modding
Anyway, thanks you all.
jd1639 said:
Yes there is. You can root with towelroot then use twrp manager
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Or flashify if you want to use other recoveries
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My question is, if you relock the bootloader on ns4g after unlocking and rooting, will you loose the root or the ability to flash any custom roms or mods?
chrissboston said:
My question is, if you relock the bootloader on ns4g after unlocking and rooting, will you loose the root or the ability to flash any custom roms or mods?
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No. You can still flash anything via custom recovery.
You will, however, lose the ability to flash a custom recovery if it is overwritten via fastboot. If you have root access you can still use the flash_image binary from the device or flash via Rom Manager. If you lose root and recovery though you will have to unlock again.
chrissboston said:
My question is, if you relock the bootloader on ns4g after unlocking and rooting, will you loose the root or the ability to flash any custom roms or mods?
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This is a dev phone, so you can lock and unlock the bootloader as you please. You will not be able to switch the recovery with it locked.
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Rem3Dy said:
If the bootloader is locked you can not flash roms. This is a dev phone, so you can lock and unlock the bootloader as you please.
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Yes you can - via a custom recovery you can flash whatever you want.
Pre 2.3.3 you could fastboot boot a custom recovery and flash whatever you wanted without even touching the stock recovery. That was never the intended functionality though and 2.3.3 took that ability away again (so that you now have to initially unlock in order to flash a custom recovery).
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Thank you Rem3Dy & krohnjw, I understand now. And thanks for the tip about flashing through rom manager krohnjw, its very usefull and easier instead of flashing manually.
chrissboston said:
And thanks for the tip about flashing through rom manager krohnjw, its very usefull and easier instead of flashing manually.
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And is causing problems en masse.
rentaric said:
And is causing problems en masse.
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erasing before flashing seems to help, I just use fastboot though as it's easy and doesn't have any issues. I don't recommend locking the bootloader if you plan on flashing, but it is possible.
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I agree with you krohnjw as sometimes when you don't do a full wipe the new flashed rom gives you problems, specially with FC's, but I've never had a problem when flashing after doing a full wipe.
Just used the CF-Auto-Root and everything went smoothly. However, I only wanted my bootloader unlocked so I wouldn't have to wipe my device down the line but do not plan on using the root capabilities right now. Is there anyway to unroot the device while still maintaining the unlocked bootloader? Thanks.
Why didn't you just unlock the boot loader? Why did you use auto root knowing it would root it?
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Pirateghost said:
Why didn't you just unlock the boot loader? Why did you use auto root knowing it would root it?
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Honestly I just went through this reddit post about unlocking the bootloader. It did not mention anything about it rooting the device. I guess I should have realized it would have root when using "Auto-Root"...
So far I've unchecked the root option in SuperSU and have disabled the app. Wondering if there was a way to fully remove root access and SuperSU.
just flash the stock images back on using fastboot
Pirateghost said:
just flash the stock images back on using fastboot
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+1
Here's some instructions for you DangKid, just incase you need them: http://www.droid-life.com/2013/11/05/how-to-flash-nexus-5-factory-images/
DangKid said:
Honestly I just went through this reddit post about unlocking the bootloader. It did not mention anything about it rooting the device. I guess I should have realized it would have root when using "Auto-Root"...
So far I've unchecked the root option in SuperSU and have disabled the app. Wondering if there was a way to fully remove root access and SuperSU.
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There is an unroot feature in SuperSu app. Simple.
I have unlocked and rooted my phone. I am proud of the fact that it is mine. I know to most people it isn't an issue, and it isn't THAT big of a deal, but i would like it to go away anyway...
Is there a way to hide the Lock Icon you get after unlocking the bootloader in the Boot sequence?
Yes. Re lock the bootloader with the "bootlocker" app
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rootSU said:
Yes. Re lock the bootloader with the "bootlocker" app
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or lock it with fastboot oem lock
simms22 said:
or lock it with fastboot oem lock
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I'd prefer to recommend bootlocker. Once you have root access, you can lock / unlock /reset tamper flag at will without connecting to a pc.
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rootSU said:
I'd prefer to recommend bootlocker. Once you have root access, you can lock / unlock /reset tamper flag at will without connecting to a pc.
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You sure its not Boot"UN"locker? I've never heard of an app that did this so, out of curiosity, I searched for "bootlocker" and found "bootunlocker" instead.
rootSU said:
Yes. Re lock the bootloader with the "bootlocker" app
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Is relocking it going to cause an issue if I decide to install a rom in the future? Or use Wugfresh to lock and unroot? Or will it be seamless?
jsgraphicart said:
You sure its not Boot"UN"locker? I've never heard of an app that did this so, out of curiosity, I searched for "bootlocker" and found "bootunlocker" instead.
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Sorry, yes. Unlocker.
justinisloco said:
Is relocking it going to cause an issue if I decide to install a rom in the future? Or use Wugfresh to lock and unroot? Or will it be seamless?
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You can still flash roms via recovery with a locked bootloader. You just need to unlock the bootloader again to update your recovery.
DON'T EVER USE TOOLKITS
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rootSU said:
Sorry, yes. Unlocker.
You can still flash roms via recovery with a locked bootloader. You just need to unlock the bootloader again to update your recovery.
DON'T EVER USE TOOLKITS
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Just to update recovery I will need to relock the bootloader?
And out of curiosity, why not use Toolkits? If its to help me gain experience, I usually have no problem using adb, but I'm at work and figured it was easier. That, and I am lazy
As rootSU said, this is what you want. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.segv11.bootunlocker
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justinisloco said:
Just to update recovery I will need to relock the bootloader?
And out of curiosity, why not use Toolkits? If its to help me gain experience, I usually have no problem using adb, but I'm at work and figured it was easier. That, and I am lazy
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No. You'd need to unlock the bootloader to update recovery.
Its easy enough without toolkits. Being lazy and taking shortcuts is dangerous.
adb isn't really related to anything we're discussing here
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Is there any tool that will reinstall the stock rom on a Nexus 5 with LOCKED bootloader? Something like emergency reflash from LG Support Tool.
LG Support Tool? There's something LG Flashtool and that works.
albwh said:
Is there any tool that will reinstall the stock rom on a Nexus 5 with LOCKED bootloader? Something like emergency reflash from LG Support Tool.
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If you have to reinstall the stock firmware why do you care? Just unlock the bootloader, you're going to lose everything anyway.
What situation are you in. There may be ways to save your data
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The ideea is that I want to root this phone with Towelroot and I've heard that if Google detects a change in the system you can't install any more OTA updates. If this is true, I want to find a method to reflash the stock so I cand get the updates.
albwh said:
The ideea is that I want to root this phone with Towelroot and I've heard that if Google detects a change in the system you can't install any more OTA updates. If this is true, I want to find a method to reflash the stock so I cand get the updates.
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If you're rooted but otherwise completely stock, you should get OTA updates no problem.
albwh said:
The ideea is that I want to root this phone with Towelroot and I've heard that if Google detects a change in the system you can't install any more OTA updates. If this is true, I want to find a method to reflash the stock so I cand get the updates.
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Well if you modify any system files you don't get the ota. Your best bet is to root and then flash a custom recovery with flashify and then flash a stock rom zip that will be created shortly after any updates come out. You can also unlock the bootloader without wiping data with boot unlocker after your rooted.
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jd1639 said:
Well if you modify any system files you don't get the ota. Your best bet is to root and then flash a custom recovery with flashify and then flash a stock rom zip that will be created shortly after any updates come out. You can also unlock the bootloader without wiping data with boot unlocker after your rooted.
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There's a whole sticky on returning to stock so you can get OTAs. </thread>
If you're able to flash the stock ROM, you should be past the point where you need to worry about being able to get any updates.
Yeah. I'd highly recommend just flashing a prerooted busybox stock ROM. You can always do a dirty flash over stock ROM and still keep data.
jd1639 said:
Well if you modify any system files you don't get the ota. Your best bet is to root and then flash a custom recovery with flashify and then flash a stock rom zip that will be created shortly after any updates come out. You can also unlock the bootloader without wiping data with boot unlocker after your rooted.
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You do get the OTA, but if you modify /system/ or something else, the OTA won't install.
It takes 10 minutes to return to stock for an OTA. Just do what you want with the phone now and enjoy!
The next OTA will be months from now. Return to stock then.
You dont need any tool. Download factory image and flash that by executing flash-all.bat (for windows, if you use linux execute flash-all.sh). Flash a custom recovery. Then remove hidden tampered flag by flashing tampered flag remover zip. Then flash stock recovery and lock bootloader by typing fastboot oem lock.
yashade2001 said:
You dont need any tool. Download factory image and flash that by executing flash-all.bat (for windows, if you use linux execute flash-all.sh). Flash a custom recovery. Then remove hidden tampered flag by flashing tampered flag remover zip. Then flash stock recovery and lock bootloader by typing fastboot oem lock.
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You can do the last 2 steps using bootunlocker from play
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rootSU said:
You can do the last 2 steps using bootunlocker from play
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Yes that is an awesome app.
yashade2001 said:
Yes that is an awesome app.
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Yeah agreed. I use it to keep my bootloader locked but so I can unlock it without a wipe on the fly.
rootSU said:
Yeah agreed. I use it to keep my bootloader locked but so I can unlock it without a wipe on the fly.
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Why do you keep your bootloader locked?
yashade2001 said:
Why do you keep your bootloader locked?
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So no one can get my data
rootSU said:
So no one can get my data
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How someone can get my data if i have a unlocked bootloader?
yashade2001 said:
How someone can get my data if i have a unlocked bootloader?
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Locking the bootloader isn't enough on its own.
Android: adb pull data, MTP (Screen lock can prevent)
Custom recovery: adb pull data, flash zip to turn off android lock screen (Recovery lock can prevent)
Lock bootloader: Prevent replacing locked recovery with unlocked recovery,
I'm currently rooted and have twrp on my opo. With bootunlocker you can unlock/lock your bootloader from withing android without wiping the device, whats interesting is if I relock my bootloader with the app I can still install zips from within twrp, I thought locked bootloaders prevented this? Or am I wrong lol thanks if anyone can put my mind at rest ?
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cloudx720 said:
I'm currently rooted and have twrp on my opo. With bootunlocker you can unlock/lock your bootloader from withing android without wiping the device, whats interesting is if I relock my bootloader with the app I can still install zips from within twrp, I thought locked bootloaders prevented this? Or am I wrong lol thanks if anyone can put my mind at rest
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If my memory serves me right, you can't flash ROMs and if your phone gets bricked with bootloader locked, it will be a brick.