Coming from Nokia's N9 myself I realy miss some of the feature of the Meego OS, and was wondering if these are available on android:
Is it possible to get a function to "swype" downwards to close an app ?.
Also is it possible to get a quick "mini menu" where the top status bar is - where one could togle things like blutooth, wifi, etc.
Also how does one "clear" the status messages without having to click everyone of them ?.
Is there also a way to close all apps (I know the Galaxy Tab have this feature - but I guess that is something built into some samsung stuff) ?
mmass23 said:
Coming from Nokia's N9 myself I realy miss some of the feature of the Meego OS, and was wondering if these are available on android:
Is it possible to get a function to "swype" downwards to close an app ?.
Also is it possible to get a quick "mini menu" where the top status bar is - where one could togle things like blutooth, wifi, etc.
Also how does one "clear" the status messages without having to click everyone of them ?.
Is there also a way to close all apps (I know the Galaxy Tab have this feature - but I guess that is something built into some samsung stuff) ?
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My friend looking at your post, it seems like you are not familiar with the term called "rooting" and "custom roms".
Three of the features out of four you've asked are there in custom roms.
The swype down feature.. Looks interesting BUT i am afraid so far we haven't seen it in android yet.
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My friend looking at your post, it seems like you are not familiar with the term called "rooting" and "custom roms".
Three of the features out of four you've asked are there in custom roms.
The swype down feature.. Looks interesting BUT i am afraid so far we haven't seen it in android yet.
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Yea - know there is way to root it - but haven't realy looked into it as this is a company phone, so would like to keep it "clean" - was hoping maybe some launcher/apps would add this functionality.
However I found the nexus actually have a quick mini menu at least Not sure it provide everything I wanted but it's a start
thnx for the reply
Root + Xposed + Gravity will do all except swipe down.
mmass23 said:
Coming from Nokia's N9 myself I realy miss some of the feature of the Meego OS, and was wondering if these are available on android:
Is it possible to get a function to "swype" downwards to close an app ?.
Also is it possible to get a quick "mini menu" where the top status bar is - where one could togle things like blutooth, wifi, etc.
Also how does one "clear" the status messages without having to click everyone of them ?.
Is there also a way to close all apps (I know the Galaxy Tab have this feature - but I guess that is something built into some samsung stuff) ?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/app-swipeback-v2-0-0-swipe-apps-t2592116
That's the closest thing I know of for swipe down to close apps. It can close apps by swiping from any edge you want, but requires the Xposed framework
Any gesture navigation app will give you the "swype downwards to close an app" ***current app
Just set the gesture
There are a couple of problems with the things you wish to do as far as I can see it:
1) swiping downwards to close an app will cause you some issues in the long run, specifically given that this is how you open the notification panel. From the videos of the N9 that I have seen, the close-app gesture is started from the edge of the screen, not somewhere in the middle? This is exactly how you open the notification panel...
2) It's not as quick as it could be (yet) but there is a mini-menu for toggles in the notification pull-down if you pull down with two fingers, or pull down with one then tap the icon in the top right
3) There should be a little icon looking like three staggered rectangles in the notification pull-down when you have multiple status messages. Tapping this should clear all status messages.
4) Closing all apps on Android is (generally) a bad thing to do. With Meego (and Maemo before it), all open applications are true multi-tasking so will be holding active RAM in use in the background so closing all running apps has a practical use (I used to use an N900). With Android, however, we actually only have a partial hybrid multi-tasking, where only apps with an API call to explicitly stay active will remain fully active in the background (eg. music playback). Everything else is put into a partial suspend state. If you keep fully closing everything, then Android will have to re-open it from ROM rather than RAM which will have a detrimental effect on your battery life. This is heavily paraphrased from an Android development engineer. As for Samsung, this is basically pandering to customer ignorance who still think that anything in the "recents" menu is draining their battery because that's how it works with Windows. To put it very bluntly, Android is better at memory management than you are
Unlike with Meego/Maemo, the entries in the Recents menu are not actually all open and active. As the name suggests, this is only a "history" list of apps you have had open since boot. The lower down this list, the more likely it may still be active, but not guaranteed.
Sorry if any of the above is borderline patronising, but I feel that this sort of Android RAM misinformation needs to be explained whenever I see it! :silly:
chaosdefinesorder said:
There are a couple of problems with the things you wish to do as far as I can see it:
1) swiping downwards to close an app will cause you some issues in the long run, specifically given that this is how you open the notification panel. From the videos of the N9 that I have seen, the close-app gesture is started from the edge of the screen, not somewhere in the middle? This is exactly how you open the notification panel...
2) It's not as quick as it could be (yet) but there is a mini-menu for toggles in the notification pull-down if you pull down with two fingers, or pull down with one then tap the icon in the top right
3) There should be a little icon looking like three staggered rectangles in the notification pull-down when you have multiple status messages. Tapping this should clear all status messages.
4) Closing all apps on Android is (generally) a bad thing to do. With Meego (and Maemo before it), all open applications are true multi-tasking so will be holding active RAM in use in the background so closing all running apps has a practical use (I used to use an N900). With Android, however, we actually only have a partial hybrid multi-tasking, where only apps with an API call to explicitly stay active will remain fully active in the background (eg. music playback). Everything else is put into a partial suspend state. If you keep fully closing everything, then Android will have to re-open it from ROM rather than RAM which will have a detrimental effect on your battery life. This is heavily paraphrased from an Android development engineer. As for Samsung, this is basically pandering to customer ignorance who still think that anything in the "recents" menu is draining their battery because that's how it works with Windows. To put it very bluntly, Android is better at memory management than you are
Unlike with Meego/Maemo, the entries in the Recents menu are not actually all open and active. As the name suggests, this is only a "history" list of apps you have had open since boot. The lower down this list, the more likely it may still be active, but not guaranteed.
Sorry if any of the above is borderline patronising, but I feel that this sort of Android RAM misinformation needs to be explained whenever I see it! :silly:
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Overdose1986 said:
Any gesture navigation app will give you the "swype downwards to close an app" ***current app
Just set the gesture
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lopezk38 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/app-swipeback-v2-0-0-swipe-apps-t2592116
That's the closest thing I know of for swipe down to close apps. It can close apps by swiping from any edge you want, but requires the Xposed framework
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Root + Xposed + Gravity will do all except swipe down.
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mmass23 said:
Yea - know there is way to root it - but haven't realy looked into it as this is a company phone, so would like to keep it "clean" - was hoping maybe some launcher/apps would add this functionality.
However I found the nexus actually have a quick mini menu at least Not sure it provide everything I wanted but it's a start
thnx for the reply
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eefo said:
My friend looking at your post, it seems like you are not familiar with the term called "rooting" and "custom roms".
Three of the features out of four you've asked are there in custom roms.
The swype down feature.. Looks interesting BUT i am afraid so far we haven't seen it in android yet.
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mmass23 said:
Coming from Nokia's N9 myself I realy miss some of the feature of the Meego OS, and was wondering if these are available on android:
Is it possible to get a function to "swype" downwards to close an app ?.
Also is it possible to get a quick "mini menu" where the top status bar is - where one could togle things like blutooth, wifi, etc.
Also how does one "clear" the status messages without having to click everyone of them ?.
Is there also a way to close all apps (I know the Galaxy Tab have this feature - but I guess that is something built into some samsung stuff) ?
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Swipe down to close app is there in Xposed using swipe back module.
You can read that Swipe back has a feature to change thje swipe edge , top to bottom or vice versa
chaosdefinesorder said:
There are a couple of problems with the things you wish to do as far as I can see it:
1) swiping downwards to close an app will cause you some issues in the long run, specifically given that this is how you open the notification panel. From the videos of the N9 that I have seen, the close-app gesture is started from the edge of the screen, not somewhere in the middle? This is exactly how you open the notification panel...
2) It's not as quick as it could be (yet) but there is a mini-menu for toggles in the notification pull-down if you pull down with two fingers, or pull down with one then tap the icon in the top right
3) There should be a little icon looking like three staggered rectangles in the notification pull-down when you have multiple status messages. Tapping this should clear all status messages.
4) Closing all apps on Android is (generally) a bad thing to do. With Meego (and Maemo before it), all open applications are true multi-tasking so will be holding active RAM in use in the background so closing all running apps has a practical use (I used to use an N900). With Android, however, we actually only have a partial hybrid multi-tasking, where only apps with an API call to explicitly stay active will remain fully active in the background (eg. music playback). Everything else is put into a partial suspend state. If you keep fully closing everything, then Android will have to re-open it from ROM rather than RAM which will have a detrimental effect on your battery life. This is heavily paraphrased from an Android development engineer. As for Samsung, this is basically pandering to customer ignorance who still think that anything in the "recents" menu is draining their battery because that's how it works with Windows. To put it very bluntly, Android is better at memory management than you are
Unlike with Meego/Maemo, the entries in the Recents menu are not actually all open and active. As the name suggests, this is only a "history" list of apps you have had open since boot. The lower down this list, the more likely it may still be active, but not guaranteed.
Sorry if any of the above is borderline patronising, but I feel that this sort of Android RAM misinformation needs to be explained whenever I see it! :silly:
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Thanks for the clarification appreciated
Yea the N9's screen is part of the swype system (the screen sides are curved), as it differs from swyping from the edge of the screen or within - it's the same from the sides, one can either swype from edge of the screen - flipping thru the apps that is open - or one can swype from just inside the edge to scroll thru f.ex images in an image viewer - the N9 also have a "notification" bar - or atleast a "top" bar, but that's activated only by a touch of the top line (where it shows status) - instead of dragging it down.
mmass23 said:
Thanks for the clarification appreciated
Yea the N9's screen is part of the swype system (the screen sides are curved), as it differs from swyping from the edge of the screen or within - it's the same from the sides, one can either swype from edge of the screen - flipping thru the apps that is open - or one can swype from just inside the edge to scroll thru f.ex images in an image viewer - the N9 also have a "notification" bar - or atleast a "top" bar, but that's activated only by a touch of the top line (where it shows status) - instead of dragging it down.
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Clearly based on other responses there is an Xposed module that allows you to close and app with a downwards swipe, so my response may not therefore be the whole truth
With some sort of selectable "active area" of the Xposed swipe you might be able to get the best of both worlds; i.e. swipe from top left downwards to close current program, or top middle and top right to open notifications? (or any combination thereof of course!)
mmass23 said:
Coming from Nokia's N9 myself I realy miss some of the feature of the Meego OS, and was wondering if these are available on android:
Is it possible to get a function to "swype" downwards to close an app ?.
Also is it possible to get a quick "mini menu" where the top status bar is - where one could togle things like blutooth, wifi, etc.
Also how does one "clear" the status messages without having to click everyone of them ?.
Is there also a way to close all apps (I know the Galaxy Tab have this feature - but I guess that is something built into some samsung stuff) ?
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try Jolla launcher
http://d-h.st/hTF
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So, I was wondering if there's any app that will add "quick controls" do the Android UI, just like in the default ICS browser, place your finger in the edge of the screen and the options pop up.
For people with physical home button devices, it'd be really helpful to have a quick control action to go back to home screen, and/or open the recent apps list.
I think it'd make things faster and more ergonomical. Besides, it'd still reduce wear on the physical buttons.
So, is there any app like this available right now?
Or if any developer decides to make this, I'd sure as hell pay for it, among many other people.
Cheers
All I did was google "quick controls": https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wsMSwxLDEsIm9yZy5jaWVsYS5xdWlja2NvbnRyb2xzIl0.
Also: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.hoopajoo.android.SoftKeys&feature=search_result
GermainZ said:
All I did was google "quick controls": https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wsMSwxLDEsIm9yZy5jaWVsYS5xdWlja2NvbnRyb2xzIl0.
Also: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.hoopajoo.android.SoftKeys&feature=search_result
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Hey there,
While I was lazy enough not to take a look at those, you can clearly see that those aren't really polished enough to fit my description.
Is the quick control feature of ICS browser actually possible to be ported to the Launcher UI?
I mean, the same layout, but with different actions. I'd suggest "Open recent apps list" (top button), Homescreen (middle) and "Close app" (bottom)
I thought you were just referring to the UI in general (an app that can run in overlay mode), not the launcher.
Well, there's this alternate launcher that might fit your needs: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobilemerit.wavelauncher&hl=en
Some of the relevant features:
✓ The wave can contain any application or shortcut you can add to your home screen.
✓ 'Recents Mode' will show you 12 recently used-apps
✓ Can be enabled by swiping from the bottom, left side or right side of the screen (See the 'calibrate' screen)
✓ Plugins infrastructure.
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EDIT: I actually liked it, so I decided to try it. You can also widgets to it, which is neat (the widgets popup on your screen and can be dismissed). If you have any doubts/questions/want specific screens, ask me.
I dont know but why do i keep feeling that the current N5/4.4 interface is still lacking many essential features?!
heres a quick list of things i have encountered user-unfriendly! and its not something hard to implement...?!
-stock eMail does not have SEARCH function...?!
it looks and feels almost exactly as gmail app but even gmail has a search icon on top..!
4.1-4.3 stock emaill all have search icon/feature too.. why not now?! WTFLOL
-why they didnt implement of swiping on the right hand corner to show settings notification page, rather have to use 2 finger swipe.
not a deal breaker, but 1 finger swiping left corner or right corner does seems to me more hassle free UI
-Notification Short Cut panel - can not add or delete new shortcuts..
this is really frustration now android up to 4.4 and still no such function..
aliguu said:
I dont know but why do i keep feeling that the current N5/4.4 interface is still lacking many essential features?!
heres a quick list of things i have encountered user-unfriendly! and its not something hard to implement...?!
-stock eMail does not have SEARCH function...?!
it looks and feels almost exactly as gmail app but even gmail has a search icon on top..!
4.1-4.3 stock emaill all have search icon/feature too.. why not now?! WTFLOL
-why they didnt implement of swiping on the right hand corner to show settings notification page, rather have to use 2 finger swipe.
not a deal breaker, but 1 finger swiping left corner or right corner does seems to me more hassle free UI
-Notification Short Cut panel - can not add or delete new shortcuts..
this is really frustration now android up to 4.4 and still no such function..
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1. I use Yahoo! mail so that's not really an issue here
2. Swipe with 1 finger and tap the top right hand icon.
3. Huh?
I'm with him on editing the the toggles. I've come from a Galaxy s4 and an missing the panel at the top if the notification bar
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
pfft I was hoping they would actually let me have a different lockscreen/ wallpaper.
Custom roms will be here soon
Synyster06Gates said:
3. Huh?
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With CM10 you can fully customize the tiles in the "profile" quick settings screen. You can also add a bunch of things that aren't on the screen (like specifically toggling GPS, flashlight, NFC).
Also... why the f can't you disable profiles in stock Android? I'm the only one using my phone!!
I was a little disappointed that "stock android" doesn't allow you to customize this; I have been spoiled by CyanogenMod.
Also! One that really bugs me! You can't change volume levels outside of the settings menu! Volume rocker only changes ringer volume, unless you're inside an app like YouTube. Even stock Touchwiz had THAT ability. :-\
Sorry for any mispelling that may occur, I typed this on my phone. will fix any errors later on my computer.
Hi everyone, as the title says, I'm here to share my thoughts about the current multi-tasking capabilities.
In the last Google i/o (2014) , Google unveiled the new recents screen and said something like: ohhh we improved the multi tasking by adding chrome tabs! (I know they didn't say it like that but you get the point)
Since then I've been thinking... you fools are so damn off... both google, samsung and the "big" roms are terribly off on multi tasking in my opinion.
Yes, Samsung and Omni Rom have multi window but in my opinion, that's not pratical at all in phones, only good for tablets and tablet wise I have no complaints about that kind of multi tasking except that you have a limit of "duo tasking".
That aside, there's other options like Paranoid Android. old Halo and the new Hover. (personal favourite Rom btw)
Halo was great! probably the best multi tasking experience I've had on a phone, because it gave the ability to switch a task extremely fast with just one swipe and the swipe lenghth would determine what app will open. But you were limited to only notifications and the apps pinned with Halo))) app.
Hover on the other hand, is worse for multi tasking in general, but if the multi tasking is between a random app and the notifications you receive, then it has no match.
Excluding those options and others of the same kind, you have the good old recents button. Which sucks for multi tasking because you need 3 actions everytime. Click, swipe through the list and click again. and that is boring as hell when you need to switch between apps often (which is my case).
So... now, I'll tell you where I think this multi-taskings fail and what I think it should be like.
PA Hover should stay as it is. as PA states, it is only meant for notofications and is the best at what it does. So good that Google even implemented something similar on Android L.
Now then, let's compare Android to a Pc OS. is it the multi window that improves the multi tasking? I personally have most windows maxized all the time, except for file explorers to copy files easly. so how come I barely use the multi window features and multi task just fine on a computer?
Dear Google, Samsung, etc. it's because of something called taskbar (or dock for mac).
This taskbar is the equivalent to your recent buttons, but is always displayed.
And that's where all the android multi task fails.
Tell me in the comments if you agree/disagree...
I have thought of ways for this to work... the most beautiful looking would be to switch the navigation bar current buttons with the icons of the open apps (so, pretty much a taskbar xD) but then we would have no buttons to navigate...
having a taskbat on top of the navigation bar would look ugly and take alot of space.
A Halo option but with the open apps instead of the notifications would be great, but Halo is not the most new-users friendly feature.
And my last ideand which I think it really is possible and would work well, is:
recents button removed (obviously), back and home button would get closer to each other on the left of the navigation bar (like the old ics and jb tablet UI) and fro. the middle to the end of the right side a horizontal scrollable list of open apps. swiping a app up would close it.
So... what do you guys think?
as far as multitasking goes (at least for my part), side app bars (aokp) + floating windows (pa) are enough. your idea might be ideal for others, but having another clutter in the screen estate (depending on screen size that is) is too much for most users. that's why pie and immersive/expanded desktop mode was was created. to maximize screen estate. but that's just me.
p.s. your idea above might be close enough on aokp (ribbons on navbar) but that only works on pinned apps there
Stock android should be much better at multi tasking than it is right now i don't understand why they can't implement Samsung's or LG's multitasking features!
I know its not a system bound item, but I've been using "Multitasking Pro". It has stay on top windows that can be minimized and then reopened. Its basically a number of apps packaged to a sidebar. Some might find it useless, will others find it indespensible. Worth a mention.
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I prefer android apps that use the lower portion of the screen more than the top, due to how I hold the phone. Also right side is better than left.
Finding the right app is very difficult due to 9/10 apps having most buttons on top. I keep wondering why you can't just move the toolbar control down to the bottom.... seems simple enough, Maybe there's a way to hack this? It should be simple enough to move the toolbar but if there's a dropdown menu, it gets more complicated. Maybe overlay configured to mirror another part of the screen, that would repeat taps to the original location....
Resizing the whole screen is one solution. There's Touchwiz for S5, OneHanded (Galaxy Note) and One-Hand Mode Xposed Mod which are pretty good but I just want to reach higher sometimes. A super quick way to enable/disable the screen sizer might work. Is there a gesture program that responds to gestures based on length of swipe and location? Maybe auto-return to full screen after 3s of inactivity? Is there something like this that will let you move the whole screen without resizing?
If you have found any great apps with bottom toolbars, please post links. Or if there's a good thread about this
The tool bar is called an ActionBar, moving the actionbar to the bottom is virtually impossible or as Google says a No No. We don't know why. But there is a split actionbar option, where you can add actions to the bottom of the screen.
You may be able to add actions to the bottom if you completely remove the actionbar (by using a theme that has no action bar) and then coding a fake one and merging it to the lower part of the layout.
Though you can't really do this to applications that have already been made unless you have the source code.
So I suggest. Get a smaller phone? Most large phones nowadays require two hand use.
Hi guys!
I just installed Pac rom KK, which works great. I'm almost fully done playing with it
Unfortunately I get stuck at the very end with something that to me (as a user, not a dev) seems quite trivial.
Seeing how I've tried to find different solutions for many hours without making any progress, I turn to you in desperation.
What I want to achieve is a clean home screen (like a painting, and nothing else, not even navigation bar) along with no use of physical buttons.
I've set everything up with full screen, gestures, pie control, and all the good stuff which makes the phone easy to navigate.
What I have left to do, and where I am stuck is:
- adding app drawer to something other than the icon, and physical buttons (basically meaning quick settings, pie control or gestures)
- removing app drawer logo from the home screen, along with the home screen dot (the one showing which home screen, and if more also how many there are)
- also locking home screen (meaning that it won't bounce)
For you who have taken the energy to read this far (which I very much thank you for), I'm sure you realize that these are easy fixes.
Thing is...I don't want to use a launcher such as nova or AWD.
...I don't want do download another pie control for the sake of having one where you simply (being the keyword) can add app drawer.
....I have removed navigation bar (which I want removed), so can't use navigation actions.
I'm sorry for being so extremely picky, but I've spent to many hours trying to get this juuuust right. I hate basically dumping this on you guys, but I'm really at loss here.
The "easiest" workaround I could come up with was to write a small app, which only function would be to open the app drawer, and then hook it up to Pie Control. Only problem is, I can't code for sh#t. I do have Xposed, so a nice and slim Xposed solution would suit me just fine. The only thing I want to keep away from is apps doubling in function (one gesture app doing this and that) and/or apps that might have a problem interacting.
If anyone would care to help me with this, I would be so grateful.
Thank you so much on beforehand!
Summary of specs: Xperia Z2 (d6503), Pac-man Rom KK (RC-3) (4.4.4), Xposed
munte89 said:
Hi guys!
I just installed Pac rom KK, which works great. I'm almost fully done playing with it
Unfortunately I get stuck at the very end with something that to me (as a user, not a dev) seems quite trivial.
Seeing how I've tried to find different solutions for many hours without making any progress, I turn to you in desperation.
What I want to achieve is a clean home screen (like a painting, and nothing else, not even navigation bar) along with no use of physical buttons.
I've set everything up with full screen, gestures, pie control, and all the good stuff which makes the phone easy to navigate.
What I have left to do, and where I am stuck is:
- adding app drawer to something other than the icon, and physical buttons (basically meaning quick settings, pie control or gestures)
- removing app drawer logo from the home screen, along with the home screen dot (the one showing which home screen, and if more also how many there are)
- also locking home screen (meaning that it won't bounce)
For you who have taken the energy to read this far (which I very much thank you for), I'm sure you realize that these are easy fixes.
Thing is...I don't want to use a launcher such as nova or AWD.
...I don't want do download another pie control for the sake of having one where you simply (being the keyword) can add app drawer.
....I have removed navigation bar (which I want removed), so can't use navigation actions.
I'm sorry for being so extremely picky, but I've spent to many hours trying to get this juuuust right. I hate basically dumping this on you guys, but I'm really at loss here.
The "easiest" workaround I could come up with was to write a small app, which only function would be to open the app drawer, and then hook it up to Pie Control. Only problem is, I can't code for sh#t. I do have Xposed, so a nice and slim Xposed solution would suit me just fine. The only thing I want to keep away from is apps doubling in function (one gesture app doing this and that) and/or apps that might have a problem interacting.
If anyone would care to help me with this, I would be so grateful.
Thank you so much on beforehand!
Summary of specs: Xperia Z2 (d6503), Pac-man Rom KK (RC-3) (4.4.4), Xposed
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Well tasker can do most of this, like mapping the action of opening the app draw on certain events on the pie controllers or hardware button press. the only thing it cannot do is hide the app draw button. as far as I'm aware, this cannot be archived without changing the launcher. although perhaps changing its icon to a transparent one may help in this matter.
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Well tasker can do most of this, like mapping the action of opening the app draw on certain events on the pie controllers or hardware button press. the only thing it cannot do is hide the app draw button. as far as I'm aware, this cannot be archived without changing the launcher. although perhaps changing its icon to a transparent one may help in this matter.
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Thank you very much for your help!
I will look into it, and I'll repost my fix