Installed ROM without installing custom recovery - General Questions and Answers

Yeah, that was stupid, but where do I go from here? I have a VZW Note 3 and I installed AllianceROM (in the "stock" slot of SafeStrap, after rooting with Towel Root and installing SafeStrap). It was a new (replacement/warranty) Note 3 with 4.4.2 (NC4). When I try to boot, it goes through the normal safestrap boot process, but once it's past that splash screen where you choose to go into SafeStrap or continue booting, it goes to a black screen.
Or does SafeStrap count as a "custom recovery"? In that case, I have no idea what I did wrong. This is the first time I've had issues with custom ROMs after going through a Note 1 and 2, so I'm unsure how to troubleshoot this.

Slovedon said:
Yeah, that was stupid, but where do I go from here? I have a VZW Note 3 and I installed AllianceROM (in the "stock" slot of SafeStrap, after rooting with Towel Root and installing SafeStrap). It was a new (replacement/warranty) Note 3 with 4.4.2 (NC4). When I try to boot, it goes through the normal safestrap boot process, but once it's past that splash screen where you choose to go into SafeStrap or continue booting, it goes to a black screen.
Or does SafeStrap count as a "custom recovery"? In that case, I have no idea what I did wrong. This is the first time I've had issues with custom ROMs after going through a Note 1 and 2, so I'm unsure how to troubleshoot this.
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start from scratch. reinstall a stock rom first. then do try what ever customizations you want

jahanzaib khan said:
start from scratch. reinstall a stock rom first. then do try what ever customizations you want
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So I just install the stock rom to the "stock" slot on safestrap? Does it need to be the official Verizon stock rom, or can it be just a very basic stock rom from the XDA android development forum?''
Is this an okay ROM to install?

Slovedon said:
So I just install the stock rom to the "stock" slot on safestrap? Does it need to be the official Verizon stock rom, or can it be just a very basic stock rom from the XDA android development forum?
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no no restoring the stock rom will remove the safestrap. you might install it again later on.
it is better to have a stock verizon rom if u are carrier locked. if u are unlocked then flash any stock rom you have. It is a download mode device right? means it has download mode?
if that safestrap thing came with your device that is when it was totally stock then yes install stock rom in Stock slot.

jahanzaib khan said:
no no restoring the stock rom will remove the safestrap. you might install it again later on.
it is better to have a stock verizon rom if u are carrier locked. if u are unlocked then flash any stock rom you have. It is a download mode device right? means it has download mode?
if that safestrap thing came with your device that is when it was totally stock then yes install stock rom in Stock slot.
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Ah okay I understand now. Yes, it is a download mode device. Where can I find the stock ROM, and how do I install it?

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Google it or find your device on xda and look for threads named stock ROMs. Stock firmware. Anything like that. I'm away from my laptop so currently I cant do that for you. Maybe you wait till morning it's 3 30 am here

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[Q] JB update and custom kernel

Hi all,
I'm sorry about my stupid question but I really don't know nothing about that . I had rooted and flashed my NS and installed the matr1x kernel (very good btw), and now I knew that JB will be available to NS. My question is, need I back to stock kernel to receive the update?
Thanks
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Gnng
You have to understand that installing an OTA (official update) on a rooted device regardless of what kernel can cause problems, as it did with my Nexus S before. I suggest you make a NANDroid backup at all times before you install any ROMs, official or Custom. You can also use Titanium backup and others.
There's still a slight while until the new JB 4.1 comes out. It's suggested that you install a Custom JB 4.1 ROM for your Nexus S as though you don't cause any problems. I think it's OK if you do it with the kernel pre-installed. But people always install the Custom ROM THEN they install the Kernel, I think installing a new ROM always overwrites the kernel, if it comes with it.
EDIT:
In short, wait for the JB Custom ROM and you don't have to revert back to stock kernel, when you do the update it will automatically overwrite. Most Custom ROMs come with Stock/ordinary kernels. So then the user can flash whatever kernel they like in your case, matr1x.
Wish you the best of luck, and I am waiting for the Nexus S JB to come out as soon as possible
Ota binary patches the boot image iirc. So it can get all messed up.
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Yeah, what he said!
MДЯCЦSДИT said:
Ota binary patches the boot image iirc. So it can get all messed up.
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andezzat,
Thank you very much for the help.
andezzat said:
Gnng
You have to understand that installing an OTA (official update) on a rooted device regardless of what kernel can cause problems, as it did with my Nexus S before. I suggest you make a NANDroid backup at all times before you install any ROMs, official or Custom. You can also use Titanium backup and others.
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I didn't any backup before flashing a new kernel :crying:, so what can I do now if I want my stock kernel back?? What's a NANDroid (I know that is a tool but how can I do it?) ? Is Titanium bkp easily?
There's still a slight while until the new JB 4.1 comes out. It's suggested that you install a Custom JB 4.1 ROM for your Nexus S as though you don't cause any problems. I think it's OK if you do it with the kernel pre-installed. But people always install the Custom ROM THEN they install the Kernel, I think installing a new ROM always overwrites the kernel, if it comes with it.
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I prefer wait for stock JB Rom and probaby I'll , but, can I already find some JB ROM?
In short, wait for the JB Custom ROM and you don't have to revert back to stock kernel, when you do the update it will automatically overwrite. Most Custom ROMs come with Stock/ordinary kernels. So then the user can flash whatever kernel they like in your case, matr1x.
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I don't need to remove the kernel even unroot my cell, alright?
Thank you!!
Gnng said:
I didn't any backup before flashing a new kernel :crying:, so what can I do now if I want my stock kernel back?? What's a NANDroid (I know that is a tool but how can I do it?) ? Is Titanium bkp easily?
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A NANDroid backup is a internal memory backup. You can create one by booting into Recovery (Power off your phone and Hold Power and Down on your volume buttons.) If you rooted your phone and unlocked your bootloader (that's what you had to do to flash a new kernel), you should be able to load ClockworkMod or TeamWin Recovery and do a backup of your phone.
Gnng said:
I prefer wait for stock JB Rom and probaby I'll , but, can I already find some JB ROM?
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There's one rom but it's a port from the SDK and the amount of major bugs is high so it's not recommended but you could try another custom rom meanwhile, I can't go back to stock after trying custom roms, like AOKP and Cyanogenmod 9. Make sure you backup your apps and some settings (not everything will be compatible between stock and custom so pay close attention to which system setting you'll backup) with Titanium Backup.
To sum it all up for you
There's a Jelly Bean release which is unstable and has no sound, and will not be fixed until the REAL version comes out.
NANDroid backs up the whole internal memory on the phone including the system, it can be done from clockworkmod recovery.
Titanium backup, backs up specific settings and information that you choose, available from the playstore.
You don't need to unroot or go back to a STOCK kernel in order to flash a CUSTOM ROM. DO not however flash a STOCK rom after rooting, as at times that can cause problems.
If you want to go back to a STOCK ROM after rooting a device, there's a way, check this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1063664
and choose your Nexus S model: To acquire model, go to Settings - About - Baseband version. if it says I9023 at the start that's your Nexus S's model
Choose one of the Fastboot Stock ROMs and use the Fastboot method to flash the ROM. That is a good way to go back to STOCK ROM if anything bad happens
By the way you should expect the new OTA official 4.1 update for the Nexus S to be on your model's page.
NOTE: Using Fastboot to flash a ROM is very clean. However this will delete all your data and if you do everything correctly will lock your bootloader and unroot your phone. So use Fastboot only when you really feel the need to.
Cheers
and stay tuned for Jelly Bean :victory:
andezzat said:
To sum it all up for you
You don't need to unroot or go back to a STOCK kernel in order to flash a CUSTOM ROM. DO not however flash a STOCK rom after rooting, as at times that can cause problems.
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That means, when I receive the official 4.1 update notification, I should unroot my phone first and just install it after?
Gnng said:
That means, when I receive the official 4.1 update notification, I should unroot my phone first and just install it after?
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OK first off, do not install the update using the system update method from about, as that is a 100% stuff up if you're still rooted or on a Custom ROM.
However to update I think flashing a stock ROM but USING Clockworkmod works fine!
Someone please confirm, as I am not 100% sure
However what I am sure about is that if you run into any troubles installing your STOCK ROM using Fastboot is very very good and clean, however there are 2 things:
1. You will wipe everything COMPLETELY
2. You need the ROM to be in a fastboot format kind of way for you to flash it
There's a guide and everything for fastboot.
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Personally I will wait for a custom ROM for 4.1 if it doesn't take too long as that's guaranteed and will obviously be faster and safer to install on a ROOTED device.
Someone still confirm if installing Stock ROM while over Custom ROM while ROOTED through CWM is OK or not!?
Hummm, ok...
I'm already using the Stock ROM, I just flashed a new kernel, and I prefer install the stock kernel and unroot my phone. Just to let it clean.
After I install the JB official update, maybe I flash and root again, depends of Google :laugh:
Do you know where can I download a trust official 4.0.4 kernel from the forums? My phone is a Nexus S I9020AUCKJ1, Version Number: IMM76D
Thanks!!!

Unlocked, now can't install kexec roms?

I unlocked the bootloader. Roms like Synergy, Bean, etc no longer boot (stuck on samusg scrreeen)
Any idea?\
confusedman112 said:
I unlocked the bootloader. Roms like Synergy, Bean, etc no longer boot (stuck on samusg scrreeen)
Any idea?\
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What methode did you use to unlock it? I'm running the stock no nonsense rom and I belive unlocked with no problems
Do other roms boot? Will the newest CM10 nightly boot? Will anything boot?
Did you flash a different recovery? If you were using kexec roms before (beans is one, so is synergy with imo's kernel) and then flashed a non-kexec-supporting recovery, that'd explain not being able to boot. If you're unlocked, you don't have to flash a new recovery.
If you did the unlock correctly, you should be able to boot whatever you were able to before. If you can't get anything at all to boot, it's possible you flashed a bad aboot image.
lazarus2405 said:
Do other roms boot? Will the newest CM10 nightly boot? Will anything boot?
Did you flash a different recovery? If you were using kexec roms before (beans is one, so is synergy with imo's kernel) and then flashed a non-kexec-supporting recovery, that'd explain not being able to boot. If you're unlocked, you don't have to flash a new recovery.
If you did the unlock correctly, you should be able to boot whatever you were able to before. If you can't get anything at all to boot, it's possible you flashed a bad aboot image.
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CM10 ROMs boot.
I think it's because I used CWM 5.x rather than 6.x. Phone isn't recongized by PC, no idea why. Any idae how to get 6.x using the terminal app in CM10 and wifi?
confusedman112 said:
CM10 ROMs boot.
I think it's because I used CWM 5.x rather than 6.x. Phone isn't recongized by PC, no idea why. Any idae how to get 6.x using the terminal app in CM10 and wifi?
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Install EZ-Recovery from the play store and flash 6.0.1.0?
PJnc284 said:
Install EZ-Recovery from the play store and flash 6.0.1.0?
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Thanks. Flashing Synergy now to test it...let's see what happens.
EDIT: Flashed just great, but still isn't working. But, it's cool, CM10 mods work and I got what I needed (exported Verizon contacts and improted them to Google Contacts using My Verizon's webstie)
confusedman112 said:
CM10 ROMs boot.
I think it's because I used CWM 5.x rather than 6.x.
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Yep, that's exactly the problem. You installed a non-kexec recovery and your roms still use kexec.
You're sure you selected the right options in EZ recovery? Open it, scroll to the recovery pane, select the "recovery" radio button, change the drop down menu next to it to CWM 6.0.1.0, click the "Flash!" button. That should let you install whatever roms or kernels you like.
lazarus2405 said:
Yep, that's exactly the problem. You installed a non-kexec recovery and your roms still use kexec.
You're sure you selected the right options in EZ recovery? Open it, scroll to the recovery pane, select the "recovery" radio button, change the drop down menu next to it to CWM 6.0.1.0, click the "Flash!" button. That should let you install whatever roms or kernels you like.
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Dang. How do I undo the bootloader unlock so I can redo it with the proper CWM?
confusedman112 said:
Dang. How do I undo the bootloader unlock so I can redo it with the proper CWM?
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Being unlocked shouldn't have any impact on being able to flash using ez-recovery. One thing you can try is use EZ-Recovery to flash stock recovery, odin back to the stock verizon image which should relock the bootloader and start all over.
confusedman112 said:
Dang. How do I undo the bootloader unlock so I can redo it with the proper CWM?
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why dont you take some time and read before flashing...this s*** is getting rediculous! Your questions are answered in multiple threads on this forum. Actually I just answered your question in a thread right below this!! Sorry not trying to be a ****...sigh.
droidstyle said:
why dont you take some time and read before flashing...this s*** is getting rediculous! Your questions are answered in multiple threads on this forum. Actually I just answered your question in a thread right below this!! Sorry not trying to be a ****...sigh.
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Because I am at work and don't have time to find and locate? Could you reference it, please?
PJnc284 said:
Being unlocked shouldn't have any impact on being able to flash using ez-recovery. One thing you can try is use EZ-Recovery to flash stock recovery, odin back to the stock verizon image which should relock the bootloader and start all over.
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Why do you need to flash stock recovery to use Odin to flash stock Verizon rom? Odin has nothing to do with what recovery you have installed. I flashed stock unrooted rom while rooted and having CWM recovery, it worked just fine. Once you flash stock rom, it restores the stock recovery too anyway. I'm fairly sure of this, but if I'm wrong, please correct me anybody.
newuser134 said:
Why do you need to flash stock recovery to use Odin to flash stock Verizon rom? Odin has nothing to do with what recovery you have installed. I flashed stock unrooted rom while rooted and having CWM recovery, it worked just fine. Once you flash stock rom, it restores the stock recovery too anyway. I'm fairly sure of this, but if I'm wrong, please correct me anybody.
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Just to be safe. Wanted to get rid of the sprint related elements from the original root so I Odin'd back to stock with cwm installed using the VRALF2 tar found here. Tried to boot into recovery to factory reset prior to first boot and had 0 recovery (not stock nor cwm). Luckily the rom booted and I used the simple root method to root and install EZ-Recovery to install CWM.
If I flashed synergy v1.7 and used rom manager v5.x.x and then unlocked the boot loader how would I flash a new rom? Do I have to use ez recovery with clockwork mod v6.x.x since it is now unlocked or can I continue using rom manager with clockwork mod 5.x.x. I'm a noob and won't be looking to switch roms until synergy gets jellybean. Thanks for the help and hopefully I made sense with my question
synergy to beans to synergy bootloop
I think my issue might be related to the issues stated above.
So after after having unlocked my bootloader with EZ unlock & installing beans custom Rom via TWRP , I decided to go back to synergy. I made a nandroid of my synergy which was origianlly installed with CWM and figured I could just wipe and restore that with TWRP. Total bootloop.
OK, so I pulled the battery, tried it again...bootloop.
SO I pulled the battery, wiped and installed the synergy zip thinking I could try a fresh install. I got a message in TWRP that E:sd-ext was not found, but wipe seemed to happen so I continued the process.
installation said it was successful but now when I try to boot up, I either get stuck in the android is upgrading applications (looping over and over) or it gets through there and tells me all teh com.android.xxxx applications unexpectedly stop.
is this a soft brick? can I recover from this? are there incompatibilities between the kernels of bean's custom rom and synergy for verizon samsung galaxy s3?

Having a Problem installing Safestrap recovery

Im having a problem getting to the recovery screen of safestrap.
I just installed safestrap from this link here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2605648
and it said it was successful. When I clicked Boot into Recovery, the phone restarts and just hangs at the Samsung Galaxy SIII Screen.
pressing any of the keys, or trying to power it off does not work. I have to pull the battery.
Upon pulling the battery, I do get the safestrap overlay where it says safestrap is disabled. I click the menu button that says recovery and it just hangs on a black screen. And I need to pull the battery again. When i get back to the safestrap screen again, i can get my phone to boot as normal by clicking continue as oppopsed to recovery, but I still can not get safestrap to boot into the recovery screen to install a rom (I want to install a 4.3 Rom).
Does anyone have any advice? Im currently running on a rooted 4.1.2.
PS: Is there a rooted stock 4.3 rom? I dont have alot of experience with custom roms. I just want the latest stock rom, but have root access. If there is one, can someone please point me in the direction of it?
Safestrap is intended for people that took the 4.3 ota, so I'm not sure if it will work on 4.1.2. You should make sure your bootloader is unlocked and install a custom recovery. There are several threads that explain the process.
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roaddog665 said:
Safestrap is intended for people that took the 4.3 ota, so I'm not sure if it will work on 4.1.2. You should make sure your bootloader is unlocked and install a custom recovery. There are several threads that explain the process.
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Safestrap should work fine for any other versions of jellybean, (im assuming) he intends to install a custom rom while at the same time having a live back up of the stock one. Also safestrap is meant for people with locked bootloaders and even though you can unlock the bootloader (on 4.1.2) you really don't need to in order to install safestrap.
Mtsprite said:
Safestrap should work fine for any other versions of jellybean, (im assuming) he intends to install a custom rom while at the same time having a live back up of the stock one. Also safestrap is meant for people with locked bootloaders and even though you can unlock the bootloader (on 4.1.2) you really don't need to in order to install safestrap.
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OK, I wasn't sure if it would or not. Thanks.
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rslthara very
So wait... Do I even need safestrap then? or is there a way to install 4.3 without having my bootloader become locked. I thought that was the whole point of installing safestrap was to create a partion of the update before you actually update to it.
MattDusza said:
So wait... Do I even need safestrap then? or is there a way to install 4.3 without having my bootloader become locked. I thought that was the whole point of installing safestrap was to create a partion of the update before you actually update to it.
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Safestrap is only for people who already updated to 4.3 rom with LOCKED bootloader. In your case, NO you don't need safestrap. You could install 4.3 for unlocked bootloader (in your case) here are a few:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1904329
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2591895
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2608639
Gturvis mingled
Thank You. I guess I missed something when I was reading on how to avoid getting your bootloader locked in the process.

[Q] Flash SG3 i535 custom rom

Hey, I don't know if this is even the right spot, but I would like to flash a custom rom on my i535. I am on 4.4 and I am not able to get into any recovery. It says the it is not Verizon approved and I have to take it to a Verizon store to get it fixed, if I remove the battery for a while it will start up just fine. I don't know if there is special way I need to install recovery, or if there is a way I can flash a custom rom without using recovery.
If this is not the right form, please direct me to the right one if you could.
isaacsmith357 said:
Hey, I don't know if this is even the right spot, but I would like to flash a custom rom on my i535. I am on 4.4 and I am not able to get into any recovery. It says the it is not Verizon approved and I have to take it to a Verizon store to get it fixed, if I remove the battery for a while it will start up just fine. I don't know if there is special way I need to install recovery, or if there is a way I can flash a custom rom without using recovery.
If this is not the right form, please direct me to the right one if you could.
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If you are on the stock 4.4.2 NE1 update, you cannot load a custom recovery and flash any custom ROMs. You can only use safestrap and there are currently only two ROMs you can flash through safestrap. You need to read this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2639337

i have a question for you smart devs

okay sooooo.....my big bro age 21 got the Verizon S3 which came with 4.4.2. He got the Verizon one, cause he said "I'm gonna be smarter then you and get the best coverage with 4GLTE".....so long story short he wants me to root it and to give him Philz recovery cause that's what im using on my Boost S3. He also wants me to make him a custom splash screen; so basically i got him root with TowelRoot and "disabled" Knox with SuperSU. Now I tried to flash the D2LTE Philz through Odin and it failed, so i did some research and apparently the bootloader is locked.....so i saw there was EZ-unlock but it would Hard Brick if you use it on 4.3 or 4.4.2. Some people on the Verizon S3 Forum Have said to use SafeStrap on the locked bootloader, but idk since he wants all of his memory and stuff and SafeStrap creates partitions and doesn't really let you install over the stock rom slot. I have no idea if it will flash the custom splash screen i made for his Verizon S3. So my question I guess is will SafeStrap work for the custom things he wants me to do to it???
6th_Hokage said:
okay sooooo.....my big bro age 21 got the Verizon S3 which came with 4.4.2. He got the Verizon one, cause he said "I'm gonna be smarter then you and get the best coverage with 4GLTE".....so long story short he wants me to root it and to give him Philz recovery cause that's what im using on my Boost S3. He also wants me to make him a custom splash screen; so basically i got him root with TowelRoot and "disabled" Knox with SuperSU. Now I tried to flash the D2LTE Philz through Odin and it failed, so i did some research and apparently the bootloader is locked.....so i saw there was EZ-unlock but it would Hard Brick if you use it on 4.3 or 4.4.2. Some people on the Verizon S3 Forum Have said to use SafeStrap on the locked bootloader, but idk since he wants all of his memory and stuff and SafeStrap creates partitions and doesn't really let you install over the stock rom slot. I have no idea if it will flash the custom splash screen i made for his Verizon S3. So my question I guess is will SafeStrap work for the custom things he wants me to do to it???
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It won't work the same way, all your information is absolutely correct though. Good thing you read everything before you started flashing things.
You only have access to 2 locked bootloader roms. You can flash them right over your stock rom in Safestrap. Safestrap won't partition your SD card unless you tell it to so just don't create a rom slot. You can't run any other rom on the phone. Unfortunately, you definitely can't flash philz recovery because it requires an unlocked bootloader.
I'd say just root, install xposed, and see what you can do to debloat and customize the stock rom. That's all you can really do at this point.
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BadUsername said:
It won't work the same way, all your information is absolutely correct though. Good thing you read everything before you started flashing things.
You only have access to 2 locked bootloader roms. You can flash them right over your stock rom in Safestrap. Safestrap won't partition your SD card unless you tell it to so just don't create a rom slot. You can't run any other rom on the phone. Unfortunately, you definitely can't flash philz recovery because it requires an unlocked bootloader.
I'd say just root, install xposed, and see what you can do to debloat and customize the stock rom. That's all you can really do at this point.
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thank you good sir/madam but will i be able to flash the Custom Splash screen with SafeStrap??
6th_Hokage said:
thank you good sir/madam but will i be able to flash the Custom Splash screen with SafeStrap??
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Yes, make a nandroid first. It won't do anything worse than soft brick if it doesn't work.
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@BadUsername thanks again i will try this soon and report back so i can make a splash screen thread here for Verizon S3 your welcome to check out my Boost S3 Splash screen thread to see how the ones i make look link in my signature

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