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I switched from an old WinMo 6.5 (Verizon Imagio) to G2x. Absolutely love it, except the battery life (there is backlight bleed too, but not too annoying).
But when I read thread here, seems my battery life is kind of okay?
1) Went to sleep at 1:20am. Phone had Gmail sync, Exchange sync every 15 minutes, News & Weather widget, and ScoreMobile widget. Checked battery at 5:40am, it was down 11%. So roughly 10% battery every 4 hours. This means 40 hours battery life if I leave the phone idle.
2) Today I wanted to drain the battery then give it a full charge. So I factory reset device twice (each time it automatically downloaded all 28 apps I installed before). A 1 minute phone call. About 1 hour web browsing. 10 minute Goolge Maps Navigation. Tweeked settings of my favorate text reader and read a novel for about 2 hours. Then watched YouTube for 30 minutes. Other time, phone was left in my pocket. Battery lasted about 11 hours.
So, is it normal battery life for G2x? With CM7, is it possible I can extend the battery life to 16 hours in scenario 2?
I think it is NOT normal battery life because when reading the novel (screen brightness at 20%), I can see 1% battery drop every 3 minutes!!! The text reader just displays static text until I flip page. My reading speed is about 2 pages/minute.
Compared to my WM 6.5 device, I barely notice any battery drain when using the same text reader app (WM version of course), same book and same reading speed.
Well people have found that the only issue with android really is the damn battery! some live through it, some buy extended batteries (like myself) and others just don't feel it since they are used to charging regularly. When compared to winmo 6.5 android is just doing so much more in the background comparitively even though winmo 6's multitasking is pretty neat. I guess other thigns to consider would be your screen resolution and that damn 14.whatever hsdpa chip you got in there!
Btw if you are using a app killer, i suggest try taking it off and see if you feel any diffrence.. i did.. i just found out the rogue app and said good bye to task killers and my battery was a little bit more promising then since it was on an aggressive kill certain app more earlier.
One thing though if you were to put the phone on a stanby time you will notice that it could really last but when doing something you can as you said practically seen it burn fuel, I guess the advancements in tech/screens/etc are just way beyond todays batteries!
I found my stock 2.1 doing much much MUCH better than CM7 or 6 even though people say Cyanogen was doing much better on some phones in terms of battery.
Can somebody post the battery life of their Vibrator compared to this phone?
I'm so mad, U mad?
I had mine off charger for maybe a total of 15mins cause I was deleting stuffoff the sdcard and battery was full it dropped 3% within 15mins
I had my myt4g with miui rom idle with wifi on for awhile yesterday and it didn't drop a % until I used it but even then it still hardly was draining. This LG drains way to fast!!
The battery life WILL improve over the first few charges. My Nexus S was TERRIBLE when I got it. 8-10 hours max. After 2 weeks or so, I was getting 25-30 hours of moderate usage.
The G2x I got ~ 14 hours of usage right out of the gate. I'm on full charge cycle 3 or 4 now, and I'm already over 19 hours. Hoping I can end up at around 25 hours or so.
The batteries AND the OS need time to 'learn' each other. The batteries need to break in as well with a full COMPLETE charge cycles. IE charge too 100% and use it until it dies, then charge fully. It also helps to leave it on the charger for about 8 hours PAST it hitting 100% the first time for some reason.
Hey all,
so I recently upgraded from a N4 to the N5. After two charge cycles, the N5 seems to be performing far worse than my N4 (both stock unrooted). With my N4, I could usually get 14 hours with 3 hours SOT (all on wifi). With the N5, I can't get more than 12 hours with 2 hours SOT (all on wifi). Currently I'm at 10 hours with 1.5 hours SOT and I have 24% left.
I also took a look at what people reported in the Battery Life Results thread and I saw several people (stock unrooted) getting 16-20 hours with at least 4 hours SOT. This is nothing close to what I've been getting.
Do you guys think it's possible that I got a dud? I tried reflashing it with the stock image and the first cycle since has been about the same. Not sure if I should wait a couple more cycles to see if it will improve or try to get an RMA for it.
Thanks for the help guys!
chennyboy2002 said:
Hey all,
so I recently upgraded from a N4 to the N5. After two charge cycles, the N5 seems to be performing far worse than my N4 (both stock unrooted). With my N4, I could usually get 14 hours with 3 hours SOT (all on wifi). With the N5, I can't get more than 12 hours with 2 hours SOT (all on wifi). Currently I'm at 10 hours with 1.5 hours SOT and I have 24% left.
I also took a look at what people reported in the Battery Life Results thread and I saw several people (stock unrooted) getting 16-20 hours with at least 4 hours SOT. This is nothing close to what I've been getting.
Do you guys think it's possible that I got a dud? I tried reflashing it with the stock image and the first cycle since has been about the same. Not sure if I should wait a couple more cycles to see if it will improve or try to get an RMA for it.
Thanks for the help guys!
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Probably depends what your doing with your SOT and what they doing which is why your getting different results.
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SplitCold said:
Probably depends what your doing with your SOT and what they doing which is why your getting different results.
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The SOT I'm using it for is just web browsing, fb, and texting. No games or anything that intensive. Also gnow and auto brightness are on.
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The SOT I'm using it for is just web browsing, fb, and texting. No games or anything that intensive. Also gnow and auto brightness are on.
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ditch location stuff, GNow, and find a stable brightness. Disable stuff you don't need as well (may or may not help..i'm noob)
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The SOT I'm using it for is just web browsing, fb, and texting. No games or anything that intensive. Also gnow and auto brightness are on.
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web browsing could actually be CPU/GPU intensive (depending on how many tabs you open, how fast you scroll {remember, GPU/CPU works harder if you try to scroll up/down very fast}, how fast you move from webpage to webpage})
definitely turn off auto brightness. also ,install the nexus5 version of the Better Battery Stats to see if any wakelocks prevent your phone from sleeping. From mine (and other people's experience), the nexus5 sips very little battery when idle (even with email sync on through 3G/LTE data)
If I do web browsing, Battery Monitor Widget says my battery drain is around 15-30% per hour (because CPU scales up in response to my frequent open-new-link/new-tab), so I'll get ~3-5 hours screen-on
If I do only video watching, BMW says my drain is closer to 10-15% per hour, so it'll last ~7 hours screen-on
with very good idle-battery-usage (0.5%-2% per hour), I can probably hit 3 hours screen on + 24 hours easily (25% * 3 hours + 1% * 24hours = 75% + 24% = 100%)
chennyboy2002 said:
Hey all,
so I recently upgraded from a N4 to the N5. After two charge cycles, the N5 seems to be performing far worse than my N4 (both stock unrooted). With my N4, I could usually get 14 hours with 3 hours SOT (all on wifi). With the N5, I can't get more than 12 hours with 2 hours SOT (all on wifi). Currently I'm at 10 hours with 1.5 hours SOT and I have 24% left.
I also took a look at what people reported in the Battery Life Results thread and I saw several people (stock unrooted) getting 16-20 hours with at least 4 hours SOT. This is nothing close to what I've been getting.
Do you guys think it's possible that I got a dud? I tried reflashing it with the stock image and the first cycle since has been about the same. Not sure if I should wait a couple more cycles to see if it will improve or try to get an RMA for it.
Thanks for the help guys!
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Remember this phone has kit Kat and your nexus 4 probably has 4.3. This version of android seems a bit more aggressive on the location services.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
So it sounds like other people are getting similar battery life? I'm just confused because it seems to be doing worse than my N4. Did people notice significant better battery life after the first 3-4 charge cycles?
Thanks for the help everyone!
I could never pump out more than 5h SoT on my opo. Right now I'm getting around 3h before I need to charge it . I'm on stock Cyanogen on 12. I've tried exodus etc and it's all the same :/ My usage isn't even that heavy, I don't play any games at all so I'm sure this is either a rom issue or faulty hardware issue not sure. Is there any setting/rom you guys recommend ? I was thinking about going back to Kitkat but which version has the best battery life ? Thanks and I appreciate any help whatsoever
PS: I disabled the Google services battery drain.
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hello dev
i advice you of using this rom
resurrection remix
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/development/rom-resurrection-remix-lp-5-2-0-t2971715
at the moment i'm using it and it's perfect not a single problem mem leak or battery
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Exodus should give you a hell of a battery life. I have heard nothing but good stuff about that ROM. I myself have not used it yet, but I'm planning to.
I get between 4,5 - 6 hours SOT with AK kernel and v1.9 of real_pac's synapse settings. I also use greenify.
Try rooting your phone and add these additional tweaks, your battery life should be much better!
I am rooted and everything. I was on exodus but it was as good as cm12 nightlies :/ Resurrection I have tried too and i only got 3h SoT I'm guessing I'm doing something wrong unfortunately . I'll try to use greenify and I'll report back
I feel you, never got more than around 3 hours of SOT. Brightness is always below 50 percent, I turn off gps when I dont use it, 3G/wifi all day long. Im running exodus as some people said it had amazing battery life, but don't really see a difference. I am rooted with he paid version of greenify + the paid version of amplify, and the power nap xposed module aswell as privacy guard on google play services. Yet I never ever even get close to the 4-9 hours SOT which some people seem to get. I really don't understand it either..
what's the awake time on your Android System or Android OS? I think I'm in the same boat, flashed BlissPop and RenderUber and left it idle with no additional settings or apps installed, then come back to it and find a good chunk of battery life gone. Both roms had Android System using 1hr of awake time.
Then I installed BBS on both roms, found nothing. Google Play Services wake up permission is disabled in Privacy Blocker, haven't installed Greenify or Servicely yet but just wondering why on stock settings there'd be such a heavy drain.
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Just found something interesting. The battery drain now is just pathetic. Powered up my phone, left it idle for 30 seconds and reboot. Bam, 1% of battery life gone. Repeated this 5 times in a row, every time the phone reboots, 1% of battery will drop. It doesn't drop right after, it sometimes drop after the phone idles for about 1~2 minute but that's just insane.
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Just found something interesting. The battery drain now is just pathetic. Powered up my phone, left it idle for 30 seconds and reboot. Bam, 1% of battery life gone. Repeated this 5 times in a row, every time the phone reboots, 1% of battery will drop. It doesn't drop right after, it sometimes drop after the phone idles for about 1~2 minute but that's just insane.
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This is completely normal, the boot process is very intensive and consumes more battery than if your phone was just sitting idle, or even being used normally.
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For those of you desiring a phone with +6h SoT. Revert back to cm11s and be happy with your SoT. I did two days ago and I have no regrets. Running amplify with greenify simultaneously and I'm getting around 7h SoT.
Hello ..
I am getting amazing battery life since I got 6.0 .. Before with lollipop I used to get around 5 hours on screen time. Amazingly though I hit 6.30 hours on the first day after update, and this with wireless, mobile data and Bluetooth on. And no data saving and screen on 70% which is amazing.
Good job Motorola
Excellent I would say
Excellent batt life with this new update very impressive how a software help the hardware to accomplish that task.
I replaced my STYLE and got a new one two days back. The old one would be dead even though it has 80%+ battery.
The current one is pretty good compared with the old unit. I got 4+ hours of SOT and I was on 4G and WiFi all the time. Was using it heavily for browsing and chat.
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I replaced my STYLE and got a new one two days back. The old one would be dead even though it has 80%+ battery.
The current one is pretty good compared with the old unit. I got 4+ hours of SOT and I was on 4G and WiFi all the time. Was using it heavily for browsing and chat.
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This is not bad at all. What I am saying is after MM update battery life increased about 1.5 hours extra SOT
Perhaps the update fixed something else? Looking at the MM update from L, there appears to be nothing besides Doze, which only works when the device is still and not used. I notice perhaps 15% better battery life if using the device sporadically during the day (medium use for me). With heavier use, I notice zero difference so far.
I was hoping some kernel adjustments were made, but the device spikes with heat about the same. I first thought it was less, but notice the same apps get the device very warm to hot (the GPU is over it's head with 1440p). Standby time is a lot better though, but only a significant improvement if lighter use though the day (so Doze can be a factor).
Usage is relative only to the user though
How do you get such great battery performance? I barely manage to get 3 hours SOT.
When the device is idle there's no drain, i only lose 2-3% overnight. But when the device is active the battery drains very quickly.
Tried a lot of battery saving stuff, greenify, powernap, and so on, but no luck.
I'm on MM stock rooted. Having a lot of apps installed. May this be the culprit?
dyonissos said:
How do you get such great battery performance? I barely manage to get 3 hours SOT.
When the device is idle there's no drain, i only lose 2-3% overnight. But when the device is active the battery drains very quickly.
Tried a lot of battery saving stuff, greenify, powernap, and so on, but no luck.
I'm on MM stock rooted. Having a lot of apps installed. May this be the culprit?
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If 20% brightness or less, all you do is web surf and a little Youtube, with good LTE signal or wifi and VERY little use of apps that force the GPU to push 1440p, you can get five hours. Everything is relative to the user. That's it.
Counting stock apps, I have 395 apps and 5GB free (64GB model). based on MM battery report, I have no apps that are background battery demons.
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If 20% brightness or less, all you do is web surf and a little Youtube, with good LTE signal or wifi and VERY little use of apps that force the GPU to push 1440p, you can get five hours. Everything is relative to the user. That's it.
Counting stock apps, I have 395 apps and 5GB free (64GB model). based on MM battery report, I have no apps that are background battery demons.
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Are you talking just 1440p video in general or are you talking 1440p games?
I'm lucky if I get 2 hours of SoT. I can't tell if Android Wear is eating my battery or if it's Sprint, despite having a decent signal. Bluetooth and Cell Standby are chewing up the majority of my battery power. I think the network management is trying to shuffle my phone between their three frequencies and while at work, I can only get on the 1900MHz PCS band due to having to use a repeater.
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Are you talking just 1440p video in general or are you talking 1440p games?
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Some games and apps run at 1440p and choke the GPU. They stand out by running very warm to hot and drain the battery more quickly.
dyonissos said:
How do you get such great battery performance? I barely manage to get 3 hours SOT.
When the device is idle there's no drain, i only lose 2-3% overnight. But when the device is active the battery drains very quickly.
Tried a lot of battery saving stuff, greenify, powernap, and so on, but no luck.
I'm on MM stock rooted. Having a lot of apps installed. May this be the culprit?
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Yes the apps do drain battery.
I uninstalled one particular email app that alone would drain 6% daily!
Anyway this time I got is without gaming. Mostly chatting and browsing and a lot of movies (vlc). I think that day I watched not less than 3-4 hours of continuous movies on the phone.
The only thing I did differently than before is removing unnecessary app permissions and notifications. Other than that I have done nothing. Like I said I do not try to save battery because I always have power source near by, but this 6.30 hours SOT i s awesome I tell you.
Based on my little experience with Android some apps will screw up the phone for no reason. First time I got the phone I got around 3 hours SOT with so many unneeded apps, and I did not know which app is draining my battery so I formatted the phone, and started installing apps one by one and watching the battery. And I managed to hit 4-5 hours with lollipop. Now with the update I got this and I was shocked.
Fully back to stock, unrooted, bootlocker relocked.
Upgraded to MM via OTA.
Installed all my apps via Play Store. Until now, i always restored my apps via TiBu, including data/settings.
I'm curious if my battery life will improve.
Will post the outcome, if any
Cheers!
A lot of the time my phone is just sitting on my desk. It used to say I would get around 1-2 days battery life from it sitting there doing nothing. After MM it says there is 8 days left. I have had it unplugged all day and even with some moderate use I am only at 95%. The doze mode really makes a big impact in stand by times!
rushless said:
Perhaps the update fixed something else? Looking at the MM update from L, there appears to be nothing besides Doze, which only works when the device is still and not used. I notice perhaps 15% better battery life if using the device sporadically during the day (medium use for me). With heavier use, I notice zero difference so far.
I was hoping some kernel adjustments were made, but the device spikes with heat about the same. I first thought it was less, but notice the same apps get the device very warm to hot (the GPU is over it's head with 1440p). Standby time is a lot better though, but only a significant improvement if lighter use though the day (so Doze can be a factor).
Usage is relative only to the user though
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I think it did do something to the apps. The way you can block apps from getting access to location or other services is pretty impressive. I love that as I hated that apps would have access to everything on my phone and I cannot do anything about it. Now I can and this particular feature made me love Android even more after I switched two months back.
Is there something wrong with me. I only get 2 to 2 1/2 hours battery tops and actually I've tried amplify (paid version), and power nap and they don't seem to help much. I have only got 3 hours once since I got this phone. Is it just AT&T maybe?
I'd like to mention something else. Probably not related at all, but ..
My old MXS was a faulty unit (as I mentioned in my previous post). Once I got a new replacement, I have not yet charged the phone using Turbo Charger. I am charging it with Mi Pad charger (non-turbo). Yes, it took about 2+ hours to go from 30 to 100%.
Old MXS was always charged with turbo charger and I was getting pretty bad SOT and the baterry would drain as fast as it would charge. Does it have to do something with using a normal vs turbo charger?
I stop pretty much all background services and apps not in use. The only active applications are firefox, whatsapp and VLC.
My screen is set to 50% brightness with adaptive brightness ON. Moto X display and attentive display is ON.
Non-root (planning to root soon) and Moto ROM.
mohan_168 said:
I'd like to mention something else. Probably not related at all, but ..
My old MXS was a faulty unit (as I mentioned in my previous post). Once I got a new replacement, I have not yet charged the phone using Turbo Charger. I am charging it with Mi Pad charger (non-turbo). Yes, it took about 2+ hours to go from 30 to 100%.
Old MXS was always charged with turbo charger and I was getting pretty bad SOT and the baterry would drain as fast as it would charge. Does it have to do something with using a normal vs turbo charger?
I stop pretty much all background services and apps not in use. The only active applications are firefox, whatsapp and VLC.
My screen is set to 50% brightness with adaptive brightness ON. Moto X display and attentive display is ON.
Non-root (planning to root soon) and Moto ROM.
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Maybe if it is a faulty device. I use turbo and i t has nothing to do with battery life.
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Maybe if it is a faulty device. I use turbo and i t has nothing to do with battery life.
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Probably yes. But i would charge on non turbo for two weeks so that I get definite data for comparison.
timde9 said:
Is there something wrong with me. I only get 2 to 2 1/2 hours battery tops and actually I've tried amplify (paid version), and power nap and they don't seem to help much. I have only got 3 hours once since I got this phone. Is it just AT&T maybe?
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Less than 3 hours is not good bro, really anything below 4 hours is just bad. You better figure out what is draining your battery, or maybe it Is a bad unit?
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Probably yes. But i would charge on non turbo for two weeks so that I get definite data for comparison.
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what difference does it make if it is charged slowly or not??
It should not matter, if the battery is not keeping the power that means it is defective, nothing to do with slow or fast charging.
Been getting about 14 to 16 hrs of battery life and about 4 hrs of SOT for the week. Main usage is web surfing, emails, whatsapp, YouTube and music streaming, no gaming.
Two days ago, I enabled the boost+ app and optimize most apps that don't need to run at full resolution. The screen on time seems to have improved a lot. Got 5hr 56mins of SOT with 14hr 46mins battery life.
This is much better than my HTC 10 after the nougat update. SOT approx 4hrs. I have boost+ running too.
Will monitor for a few more days to see if it is a one off performance.
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Been getting about 14 to 16 hrs of battery life and about 4 hrs of SOT for the week. Main usage is web surfing, emails, whatsapp, YouTube and music streaming, no gaming.
Two days ago, I enabled the boost+ app and optimize most apps that don't need to run at full resolution. The screen on time seems to have improved a lot. Got 5hr 56mins of SOT with 14hr 46mins batteries life.
This is much better than my HTC 10 after the nougat update. SOT approx 4hrs. I have boost+ running too.
Will monitor for a few more days to see if it is a one off performance.
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Pretty good life!! mine gets about 3.5 hrs SOT, and about 13 hour standby, I also have boost+ on too. Curious as to what your brightness setting is, mine about 50% with adaptive on. I am rather heavier on my battery and network, so it doesnt surprise me that you're getting better life. (mine was better when I was on holiday with a better network connection).
About 45% level with adaptive on too. I think setting boost+ to run almost every app at HD resolution, excluding photo apps, helps a lot.
Good network is key too.
I am very satisfied with battery life when on WiFi 4,5-5 hours SOT), but when on LTE I get around 3 hours of SOT. I just enabled Boost+ to see if it improves battery life at all. I don't want to enable though FullHD for apps.
Do you use location services in high accuracy mode?
Here is mine, Charged up to 96% used until now.
Battery had become a bit crazy lately after updates to tons of apps. Just updated the firmware yesterday. Will monitor again.
Hi guys, hope everyone is doing good.
I wanted to ask that from past 2-3 days I'm facing very quick battery drain on u ultra. I'm hardly getting 2.5 hrs of Sot. Phone is heating too much.
Before this I was seeing around 4 hrs+ SOT that too with 1hr+ of casual gaming. I don't know what is wrong but I'm worried. My device is heating that's all what I'm able to notice. Any suggestions are most welcome. Except this, love the device.
Thank you.
It happened to me after updates of some apps.
The only way I solved it was to shutdown the phone completely. Wait for about a minute before powering up again.
Thinking about getting the U Ultra. Do you feel that the battery life is good enough?
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Thinking about getting the U Ultra. Do you feel that the battery life is good enough?
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Actually depends on what your daily usage looks like. If I'm on holiday or the whole day at home, one charge easily lasts for 2-3 days. But at university with every sync /bt/WiFi etc enabled and 50% brightness I get about 8h with high amount of screen on time (50-80%)
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Actually depends on what your daily usage looks like. If I'm on holiday or the whole day at home, one charge easily lasts for 2-3 days. But at university with every sync /bt/WiFi etc enabled and 50% brightness I get about 8h with high amount of screen on time (50-80%)
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I usually use the phone for 2-4 hours per day but more hours during travel.
How much does the battery drain during standby? For instance, I you leave the phone in standby during the night, how many percent does the battery decrease?
Mine loses about 4% overnight (8 hours) which I think is exceptionally good!
For me it highly depends on which ROM and which apps I have installed. Recently the battery drain was about 1%/hour (150 apps, all syncing etc on), but right now after cleaning up a bit and nstalling greenify I'm back at ~3-6% per night.
I can get the black U Ultra for €291.99 here: https://www.eglobalcentral.eu/htc-u-ultra-64gb-4g-dual-sim-sim-free-unlocked-black.html
Tested the phone yesterday at a local shop here in Sweden, felt great in the hand and I really like the design. However, the battery life may be a deal breaker. Most of the phones I have used during the last 2 years has droppped 1-3 percent during night and I usually got 6 hours SOT over 24 hours. The last phone I used with weak battery life was Nexus 6, it gave med 3-4 hours SOT during 24h and that was slightly annoying. I get the impression that U Ultra is comparable to Nexus 6 in the battery department. :-/
That's actually a very accurate comparison. I replaced my Nexus 6 with the HTC Ultra and I'm getting almost identical SOT and battery life.
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That's actually a very accurate comparison. I replaced my Nexus 6 with the HTC Ultra and I'm getting almost identical SOT and battery life.
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how much do you get bro ? and what is your usage ?
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how much do you get bro ? and what is your usage ?
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I get about 24 hours of mixed usage, which means I need to charge it up every morning, but I never seem to be able to get more that 4 hours SOT. Also, the rapid charger is slower than the Nexus 6. It takes about 1 hour and 50 minutes for a full charge.
I installed and configured kernel Adiutor/CPU Kernel state #on_demand and turned off #core_4. Now my battery/system working 2 whole days before charging!
Guys if i go to optimize apps and turn it on, Wen I leave it turns off again. Is this normal? I restart the phone and I already did a factory reset because the phone was updated alot the first time I use it, but it's the same. I'm getting about 3-4 hours off sot depending on the use. Maybe less. What do you guys think?
i got 5hrs and a few mins with the first charge (light use, browsing, installing apps, tweakin settings and 35mins spotify)