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I know many of us have been ignoring the slight LCD bleed on the top corners of our G2x. We are now not able feel it due to the white notification bar. We have to view it only in a black background.
I have rooted the phone but did not install the Eagle rom yet.
Anyone who installed this rom, Did you feel that the LCD bleed is too much visible on black notification bar?
I had it flashed on mine and could not notice it at all
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I had it flashed on mine and could not notice it at all
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One more reason to love this phone...
I was nervous about that so when I saw eagle had the black bar I tried it and was releaved to not notice the bleed. So far I only notice it on startup when its dark. Someone who has worse bleed may notice it .
When I noticed the backlight bleed one of the first things I did was think OMG gingerbread!!! I didnt want that bleed showing up on the black notification bar. I downloaded these pics to test exactly what it would look like on gingerbread and was horrified to see that the bleed was completely noticable, especially in the app drawer. Thats when I exchanged my phone for one that had less backlight bleed. Still has some but only about half as bad.
http://androidspin.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/CTSO-Gingerbread-Home.png
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_CYqA4fSoF...DF65cA3Y/s1600/HD2-Android-Gingerbread-02.jpg
I am planning to install it and verify it. My worry was if I notice too much bleed and have to return it, will nandroid restore do the magic to get the phone back to original stock version.
My bleed is only minimal in the top right corner by the time/clock. I dont see it with eagle rom. But...is it my bleed or is the status bar 2 different shades of black? With the top half being lighter. I didnt have bleed across the entire top so im assuming the status bar is two toned. Anyone notice this?
@jrharvey - Thanks for the GB pics.
I didn't notice the bleed in the home page pic but in the app drawer top left corner show the bleed in day light. It would be significant in the night .
I am worried, if I return it I might get a phone which is worst than this . I don't have all the reboot issues. btw, this is my second phone.
Didn't notice the bleeding with the black bar.
Great idea to test with a screenshot. I just checked mine and sure enough I can see it in the upper left corner when brightness is 50% or higher, just sitting in my office. I don't notice it in the right corner because of the clock. In reality I always have an icon showing in the upper left corner as well so I wonder if I would actually notice it or not on my phone.
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My bleed is only minimal in the top right corner by the time/clock. I dont see it with eagle rom. But...is it my bleed or is the status bar 2 different shades of black? With the top half being lighter. I didnt have bleed across the entire top so im assuming the status bar is two toned. Anyone notice this?
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I was curious about the two tone status bar! I can't tell, but the status bar ain't solid black! So I guess we still can't figure it out until a solid black notification!
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I downloaded the pics, went to a dark area, and turned brightness to max.
I don't notice any bleed.
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I was curious about the two tone status bar! I can't tell, but the status bar ain't solid black! So I guess we still can't figure it out until a solid black notification!
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thanks for checking. i'm color blind, but still saw a difference in the 2 tone status bar. had me thinking more bleeding was starting\getting worse.
I'm on my second phone and was pretty satisfied. The bleeding is less compared to the first and doesn't really bother me at all since 95% of my time with the phone won't have an all black background.
But with the notification bar being black on Gingerbread, that's another issue. I downloaded the pics and on the app drawer pic, it's definately noticeable in the top left corner as there was no icon there.
With the white notification bar I can handle the bleed because I won't notice it much, but with the bar being black I don't think I'll be able to handle looking at that bleed every frickin time I use the phone.
I wasn't going to do a second exchange, but will have to now and if things don't improve I'll just refund it completely and wait for a SAMOLED+ phone. If the USA version of the SGS2 has SAMOLED+ instead of SC LCD (at this point it looks to be SAMOLED+ as the FCC papers indicate it is the GT-I9100 model) then I might go for that.
the G2x has an IPS screen. which is actually quite nice (if it doesn't bleed) its worse on battery but looks better at different angles as opposed to SAMOLED
My phone locked up with only a black screen, i thought the battery died but it was frozen had to remove battery to get it going again. When it was totally black I noticed bleeding and also backlight leaking or whatever term. I know my iPhone 4 QA is a lot better.
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I know my iPhone 4 QA is a lot better.
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I lol'd at this part
javolin13 said:
the G2x has an IPS screen. which is actually quite nice (if it doesn't bleed) its worse on battery but looks better at different angles as opposed to SAMOLED
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I agree the G2x's IPS screen is impressive and with the exception of black does seem to look on par or even better than Samsung's SAMOLED screen.
Guess LG just ran into a manufacturing issue with the latest batch as the Ipad 2's screen is also having bleeding issues.
What I'm more concern with is LG's warranty policy. I have been corresponding with their customer care department via emails and the two emails I received back doesn't sit too well with me.
My third G2x is coming in next week and hopefully the third time's the charm.
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When I noticed the backlight bleed one of the first things I did was think OMG gingerbread!!! I didnt want that bleed showing up on the black notification bar. I downloaded these pics to test exactly what it would look like on gingerbread and was horrified to see that the bleed was completely noticable, especially in the app drawer. Thats when I exchanged my phone for one that had less backlight bleed. Still has some but only about half as bad.
http://androidspin.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/CTSO-Gingerbread-Home.png
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_CYqA4fSoF...DF65cA3Y/s1600/HD2-Android-Gingerbread-02.jpg
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Thanks for the links...great idea. I loaded 'em up in a dark room at 100% brightness and only noticed very minimal bleed. As a comparison I did the same with my old HD2 and bleed was roughly the same. Looks like I got lucky (knocking on wood). Thanks again.
Hi all,
Picked up my One S on Monday and, so far, in almost every way it's my "perfect" phone - great feel, weight, crazy slick... just lovely.
However (and why is there ALWAYS an Achilles heel?), I'm really not happy about the screen. Ok, it's pentile, but so was my Desire (AMOLED one) and I never had a single problem with that. It's just this one seems so, well, pink! Not just in white balance, but there seems to be too much red everywhere - e.g. text on grey in Tweetdeck has crazy amounts of red fringing (especially noticeable on the yellow too), and the over saturated colours are almost too much (though not much more than my Desire, to be honest).
(Quick comparison of the screen temps attached)
I mean, seriously, that's not normal, right?
Am I the only person who seems to notice red / pink outlines on everything, am I the only person bothered by it, or am I just unlucky with this phone?
I went to Carphone to swap it, but they wouldn't because their manager was out and because I traded down from the X on Monday (flickering screen nightmare), so I had a play on their display model and I convinced myself the screen on that one was better! But, I'd love a second opinion!
Cheers!
Oh that's really pink! Will check mine when it finishes the first round charging.
I would say this isn't normal. On amoled Displays white areas appear a bit blueish or grey. But this red/pink looks unnormal
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no, this doesn't look normal. But the thin red and green outlines are caused by the pentile-matrix, this is normal.
Just download Screen Adjuster and increase blue and green values a bit and your red screen will be gone
That's a v. useful app! It's definitely taken the edge off (green & blue at +5), but I'll still pursue a replacement as the contrast has taken a bit of a hit now.
(I'm such a perfectionist!)
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Hi all,
Picked up my One S on Monday and, so far, in almost every way it's my "perfect" phone - great feel, weight, crazy slick... just lovely.
However (and why is there ALWAYS an Achilles heel?), I'm really not happy about the screen. Ok, it's pentile, but so was my Desire (AMOLED one) and I never had a single problem with that. It's just this one seems so, well, pink! Not just in white balance, but there seems to be too much red everywhere - e.g. text on grey in Tweetdeck has crazy amounts of red fringing (especially noticeable on the yellow too), and the over saturated colours are almost too much (though not much more than my Desire, to be honest).
(Quick comparison of the screen temps attached)
I mean, seriously, that's not normal, right?
Am I the only person who seems to notice red / pink outlines on everything, am I the only person bothered by it, or am I just unlucky with this phone?
I went to Carphone to swap it, but they wouldn't because their manager was out and because I traded down from the X on Monday (flickering screen nightmare), so I had a play on their display model and I convinced myself the screen on that one was better! But, I'd love a second opinion!
Cheers!
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I see an difference in the white background yes... but other that that? Nope... it's just you...
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I see an difference in the white background yes... but other that that? Nope... it's just you...
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Well, when I say "see" I meant on their own One S rather than on my screenshot.
I sometimes notice it being a bit pink when the brightness is set low, have you tired using auto brightness or putting it a bit higher?
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I sometimes notice it being a bit pink when the brightness is set low, have you tired using auto brightness or putting it a bit higher?
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Same here, it is pinkish only on low brightness.
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encho said:
Same here, it is pinkish only on low brightness.
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Hmm. Other than at 100% brightness, it still seems pinkish. I finally get to persuade CPW to give me a replacement tomorrow...
That's looking odd definitely. Let us know if the replacement is better.
I haven't noticed any issue on mine
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mine screen is definitely on the warm side of things (meaning the whites are yellow'ish). seeing how One X has a yellow tint issue (different screen manufacturers involved it seems) and you're playing a screen lottery i wonder if One S is the same. slightly warmer screens is not an issue per se but a strong yellow tint definitely effects the overall brightness and sharpness. i would love to compare different units in store to see if One S with cooler screens actually exist.
the pink tint is a straight up defect, however.
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Hmm. Other than at 100% brightness, it still seems pinkish. I finally get to persuade CPW to give me a replacement tomorrow...
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This probably won't help you. It won't hurt I guess, but this is something that can be worked out with a software solution. The SGS had something called Voodoo Colors, and I'm assuming that at some point that'll make it to the One S, as it's an AMOLED device as well. The colors changing on low brightness is one of the characteristics of an AMOLED screen.
As a poster above recommended, install that tool and set adjust the values for now. In due time, this'll be worked out. HTC just didnt do a great job with their color profile.
I am creating this poll to see what screen problems people have with the one x.
Options are:
Color banding
Dead Pixels
Dust Under Screen
Light Bleed
Yellow Tinge
Multiple issues
Also Please Say what color One X you have
I have color banding and Light Bleed on a White one x.
too bright in general lol
Gray ATT version. I have banding and one very small dust spec just on the edge of the screen on the bottom right corner.
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Gray ATT version. I have banding and one very small dust spec just on the edge of the screen on the bottom right corner.
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Oh god, dust and dead pixels are my ocd's worst nightmares. I get so depressed when I see them Color Banding will soon be joining them too
You should add a no issue selection.
how?
Wheres the "no problems" option?
Mine has very minor light bleed, but thats it. Its only noticeable if I'm looking at a pitch black screen in a dark room.. so its pretty much no problem
Only issue I'm having is that the screen is too bright for the auto brightness.
Other than that it's perfect
No issues. But there's no option for that in the poll.
Gradient banding and light bleed (bottom right corner).
I have a yellow screen. But for me, I am getting intermittent screen flickering, specifically in Chrome and Messages.
Furthermore, I already have tons of micro scratches on my screen. Have no idea how they got there. Glad I picked up a screen protector for $3 on amazon and Ordered a Seidio Active Case also. Don;t want this beautiful screen to get a jacked up.
No issues here either.
No problem at all here! Gray one X.
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Only issue I'm having is that the screen is too bright for the auto brightness.
Other than that it's perfect
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You could try Juice defender. It has an option to change the auto brightness, both the maximum light, and the average light (and minimum)
Only thing I miss there is an option to disable it while charging or in the car.
My only issue is banding. For those who DON'T have banding, I would appreciate if you'd check out my thread on the issue, especially if you're able to post a photo of your phone's screen.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1646446
Thanks!
no issues for me either .
banding sometimes but minor , and isnt that software related anyways?
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banding sometimes but minor , and isnt that software related anyways?
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I don't think so. Take a screenshot when you see banding, then look at the screenshot on your computer or on another phone. When I tried that, I saw less banding on the computer and on my old Captivate than on my One X, viewing the exact same image.
I have banding, but it seems more like a software bit-depth issue than a physical problem with the screen.
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I have banding, but it seems more like a software bit-depth issue than a physical problem with the screen.
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Guys, I wish it were this simple, but it doesn't appear to be. I can use Paint.NET to make a gradient, and view that same image file on many screens, and my One X shows more banding than the others. It still doesn't look as bad as the One X's app-uninstall screen, which is likely because my gradient is linear and theirs isn't, and so on top of there being bands, they're also unevenly spaced! But there's no denying that the bands are there (at least on mine), and they're more apparent than on the other displays I have access to (another phone, a laptop, and a TV).
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Guys, I wish it were this simple, but it doesn't appear to be. I can use Paint.NET to make a gradient, and view that same image file on many screens, and my One X shows more banding than the others. It still doesn't look as bad as the One X's app-uninstall screen, which is likely because my gradient is linear and theirs isn't, and so on top of there being bands, they're also unevenly spaced! But there's no denying that the bands are there (at least on mine), and they're more apparent than on the other displays I have access to (another phone, a laptop, and a TV).
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I meant a driver-level firmware issue. When I had the Nook Color, there was a kernel that enabled lower bit-depth to speed up the boot, but it introduced banding like this. There was another kernel that could show full 24-bit color and had no banding.
So just loading an image onto the phone isn't proving that is a hardware issue. This just makes my argument stronger with the uneven banding being related to bit-depth and not hardware.
I have no screen issues! @TinyBoss I saw your other post and I have to say your banding does look bad. I was leaning toward software until I compared mine to yours and I'm thinking you have a bad display...
Hello friends,
Today only i have received my Tab2 7.0 and i am finding some yellowish tinge in display especially in White areas. Anyone else faced this problem ?
Thanks
remove the plastic screen protector, make sure it's not dead pixel (mostly dust inside the plastic screen protector)
if it's dead pixel then you should claim RMA warranty to samsung service center
Oh.....can this Plastic Screen Protector has so much effect
No as yet haven't noticed any dead pixels. Warranty i think is void because of flash counter
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Oh.....can this Plastic Screen Protector has so much effect
No as yet haven't noticed any dead pixels. Warranty i think is void because of flash counter
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dead pixel doesn't means it's muse be black color, (if it's black without emitting light/RGB-color, then it's probably just a dust)
I've dead pixel in my laptop and the color is Reddish-Blue when displaying white scene on monitor.
The pixel contain 3 color (Red, Green, Blue), so in my case should be the Green-subpixel is died.
In your case (Yellowish tinge), probably because the Blue-subpixel is dead.
because Yellow color is produced by combining Red & Green color only (without Blue)
White color is produced by combining Red-Green-Blue subpixel all together, so you must test your screen under white scene (eg: in browser, white text editor, or program can detect dead pixel on the android market)
Oh man ! You got some in-depth knowledge about the subject.
Can you plz tell name of that app ?
Thanks once again !
I also have this yellowish tint display issue on my new tab 2 7.0. Most noticeable in white backgrounds, such as Settings or in Play store, or in the web browser. It's pretty yellowish. And overall the display looks washed out. I thought this is a PLS display..? Same as original galaxy tab 10.1? My original Gtab 10.1 has a much vibrant colors, and this one is really washed out and again, the yellowish tint on white backgrounds.
Is this normal? Is this not a PLS display? Do I have a defective device? Should I exchange it for another one (I prefer not to if it's definitely normal, but will def do if this is not normal).
Thanks for your help!
Could someone please answer to my post?
Anybody who has the tab 2 7.0 must have answer to my question if they also have yellowish tint or not..more technical answer would be also helpful.
Thanks.
Anyone???
I'm debating on exchanging it or not as I'm going to the place I bought it tomorrow. I already have everything set up on this device, so want to know if is is actually defective screen.
Some reviews say that the screen is vibrant, while some others say that it is washed out or yellowish. One review says they hear people complaining that the screen has yellow hue, but they don't have it on their device. I don't know who's right..I did search on this forum, and saw other people complaining too, but not much replies in any of the threads and one person said it must be the screen protector, but I don't have any screen protector on.....
Any help would be appreciated.
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Anyone???
I'm debating on exchanging it or not as I'm going to the place I bought it tomorrow. I already have everything set up on this device, so want to know if is is actually defective screen.
Some reviews say that the screen is vibrant, while some others say that it is washed out or yellowish. One review says they hear people complaining that the screen has yellow hue, but they don't have it on their device. I don't know who's right..I did search on this forum, and saw other people complaining too, but not much replies in any of the threads and one person said it must be the screen protector, but I don't have any screen protector on.....
Any help would be appreciated.
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If you don't like it, return it. Or, at least you could look at another unit at the store and see if it's consistent.
I've decided to start a new thread to gain some focus on this issue.
It is common on the U11 according to some posts.
I've just noticed after the recent update, maybe it was there from the beginning, that this device has a lot of light bleed around the sides when using always-on feature. Some parts of the edges of the device has greater light bleed than other sections.
It's quite noticeable and adds more light to the room at night. If only the time was showing it would be perfect. This is what I thought was there before the upgrade. However I believe that any light bleeding is a hardware thing not a software thing.
This could be a reason why it drains the battery so much.
The light bleeding isn't noticeable during the day as far as I have checked.
Maybe I should return this device but not sure if HTC will agree.
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I've decided to start a new thread to gain some focus on this issue.
It is common on the U11 according to some posts.
I've just noticed after the recent update, maybe it was there from the beginning, that this device has a lot of light bleed around the sides when using always-on feature. Some parts of the edges of the device has greater light bleed than other sections.
It's quite noticeable and adds more light to the room at night. If only the time was showing it would be perfect. This is what I thought was there before the upgrade. However I believe that any light bleeding is a hardware thing not a software thing.
This could be a reason why it drains the battery so much.
The light bleeding isn't noticeable during the day as far as I have checked.
Maybe I should return this device but not sure if HTC will agree.
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According to some early buyer, U11+ shows the light bleeding only from the bottom right corner of the display.
Also it should be barely noticeable: if your unit has "lot of light bleed around the sides" maybe it has a faulty or not properly assembled display...or maybe you are exaggerating things!
Can you please show a picture of this issue?
In darkness, the light bleed is visible, and expected on an LCD because you can not light up just the pixels (the date and notification floating window) which you want to show on an LCD . The whole screen has to be lit up with minimal brightness.
In normal lighting, its not visible at all because the brightness on U11+ can go down quite a bit and blacks are blacker than I have seen on an LCD.
See attached image.
Not sure what's acceptable with light bleeding by HTC's standards or most mobile manufacturers.
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See attached image.
Not sure what's acceptable with light bleeding by HTC's standards or most mobile manufacturers.
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Ouch! That really looks bad.
I was eyeing this phone, and can't decide between it and the LG V30. Both seem to be a lottery with the displays unfortunately...
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See attached image.
Not sure what's acceptable with light bleeding by HTC's standards or most mobile manufacturers.
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Got my HTC u11 plus today and my screen has the same kind off light bleed.
It's only on the "smart display" though
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Got my HTC u11 plus today and my screen has the same kind off light bleed.
It's only on the "smart display" though
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Can't believe I'm the first one to ask, but is it the UK or Asia model?
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Can't believe I'm the first one to ask, but is it the UK or Asia model?
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Asia model , its very minimal on my phone. Have to stand in a dark room to see the bleed in the right hand corner
Mine is direct from Taiwan.
Yes, the bleed is only noticeable using the always-on feature.
I could swear I didn't notice it before the recent update. But it's got to be a hardware thing.
LCD Panel + Backlight = visible light on black screen. No surprises here tbh lol
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LCD Panel + Backlight = visible light on black screen. No surprises here tbh lol
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Exactly!! To all the HTC detractors making this a huge issue, show me an LCD screen which does not have it.
Here is another nugget: the non-uniform light bleed shown in the photo above is because of special algorithm followed by always on display software. If you just do a full screen black (use the Full Screen Test from play store), you will see a uniform backlighting, which is the best I have seen on an LCD. U11+ display has no defects in my opinion.
HTC should not have even tried AOD on an LCD screen.
Htc m9 and 10 didn't have that much
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Htc m9 and 10 didn't have that much
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I have the HTC 10. The black on HTC U11+ is blacker than the black on HTC 10 i.e. the backlight is even lower on U11+ than 10. I tested using the Full Screen Test I mentioned above. I would like to mention again that non-uniform light bleed is only an issue with always-on-display, and not with the screen in general. And its the non-uniformity of backlight that makes it seem like an issue.
Thanks for all the feedback.
I'm very happy with the U11+.
I just selected the option to turn the always-on feature when I move the device, so it's very liveable.
HTC has always been my favourite manufacturer for the last 13+years. The HD2 one of the best years ago.
Ouch, this light bleed seems harsh. Although it should be expected given the screen's technology.
It's not a default. Devsk explained it well, I wouldn't worry it
Even my Moto X Pure LCD screen has bleed, but it is only visible in total darkness on a black screen. Doesn't bother me in the least.
PS Anyone who is curious can download the Backlight Bleed Test app from the Playstore to view how much bleed your particular LCD screen has.
People who think this is normal for LCD screens, let me stop you right there! The HTC U11+ has blacks nearly as black as LED screens, even at night. There was no light bleed when I received this device. I held it next to the S8 Plus, and both had almost the same black values. It's amazing.
After a week however, I suddenly had an extreme light bleed, 0,5cm around all edges, like some sort of weird snow theme. Luckily it faded within an hour. Now it's normal again, except for the down right corner. That's only noticable when the screen is black, and it shows the time. It's barely noticable though.
This incident led me to believe it's anything but normal. The seller told me it's alright to exchange my device for a new one, so I hope it's not an issue with all devices. :fingers-crossed:
You'd think it's an hardware issue, but what are the possibilties the software influenced the backlight? Any thoughts?
UPDATE:
Just had a software update, and the light bleed is gone now. Even in the down right corner. Is this a coincidence, or do you think it might have been a software problem?
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UPDATE:
Just had a software update, and the light bleed is gone now. Even in the down right corner. Is this a coincidence, or do you think it might have been a software problem?
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What software update did you get ?
What's the version number?