Sometimes, the original is better - Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I recently purchased the Moto G 4G LTE and have been having a blast with it. It was simple to unlock the bootloader, add TWRP, and root the device. It was also simple to unbloat the device since it did not have much bloatware on to begin with. Over all I am really pleased with my purchase.
I did change out the SMS app because the original was very bland. However, the email app was driving me crazy. So I spent a better part of the day looking at the available free email apps to see which one I would prefer over the stock app. I was totally disappointed when I found that all the apps I tried did not work well with GMail. Each app would fetch the test mail from GMail and then delete the mail preventing me for using Outlook to download the mail to my PC. No matter what I tried, the app would either delete or "mark as read" and my Outlook could not retrieve it.
It seems the only email app that worked in keeping the GMail intact was the stock email app on the phone. But I don't like it because it does not tell me if it is sync'ing with the server and downloading or not. So I have no way of knowing except if an email is download it will give me a notification. It won't even give me the last sync timestamp.
Anyone using an email app that works with GMail (retrieve but leave unaltered), AND, you can also download the email with Outlook?

What's wrong with using the actual Gmail app and syncing on your Outlook?
There's going to be a combination of Gmail POP3 settings and mail client settings that will determine if a message is deleted from the server or not upon retrieval.

I use the free version of Maildroid, it works great with what I use, being Outlook, MSN, and Gmail. Puts everything into one place.

I don't understand why, but the OEM email does not affect the mail on GMail. When I access the mail and download it to my phone, I can then access the same email from Outlook on my PC and download the same mail. But using other applications like K-10 and Aquamail, when I download the mail to my phone I cannot access with Outlook on my PC. So the other mail programs must be doing something that the OEM email app is not doing. Strange. I have also tried some different settings in GMail to no avail.

I cannot comment about the apps that you have mentioned, but providing the app that you choose uses IMAP then the various email clients should maintain synchronization with each other. @Darkshado mentioned POP3. I used to have problems with Hotmail using POP3, but since they implemented IMAP the problems have disappeared. I can confirm that Maildroid works correctly, you can choose in settings whether or not to delete messages off the server.

Thanks for the tip on Maildroid. That works for me. Much appreciated.

Glad to help. I just wish that is was cheaper, but I hardly notice the ad's at the bottom anymore
I am surprised the other apps that you tried have problems, I was thinking that you had made a mistake in the configuration or something. We learn..... Cheers.

grahamgo said:
Glad to help. I just wish that is was cheaper, but I hardly notice the ad's at the bottom anymore
I am surprised the other apps that you tried have problems, I was thinking that you had made a mistake in the configuration or something. We learn..... Cheers.
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I have added AdBlock and the ads are gone. The other mail programs had all the same options but did not do what I wanted. Very frustrating because I liked their aesthetics. But like you said, live and learn...

I use K9. It's open source and has pretty advanced settings to manage synchronization and server actions. It takes some to to configure, but that can be an advantage...

K-9 was another one I tested that did not work for me. Appreciate the response though. Some of these mail programs look really nice. K-9 was one of them, I just wish it would not molest the mail so I can download it later into my Outlook mail for archiving.

Hi, Can you tell me which Adblock is the best one to use. I find quite a few on play store.

grahamgo said:
Hi, Can you tell me which Adblock is the best one to use. I find quite a few on play store.
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I have used Adblock Plus for the longest on my Firefox browser PC and Tablet. So I went with what I know best, AdbLock Plus ver 1.2.1. On my free apps I see absolutely no ads. Wonderful.

Thanks for the pointer. Apparently it's banned from the Play Store, no wonder that I didn't find it. I did try another one called Adblock which is on Play Store and it seemed to do nothing at all. Anyway, I have been using the one that you suggested for about a week now, and you are correct, no ads anywhere. No wonder Google doesn't allow it! Thank's..

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Looking for a good email app

What is the best email app out there. I currently use the stock email app and have tried k9mail but I don't like the way either of these deal with folders. I would like to find an email client that can actually work with folders. Any suggestions?
Pure message\Pure email
proverbs308 said:
What is the best email app out there. I currently use the stock email app and have tried k9mail but I don't like the way either of these deal with folders. I would like to find an email client that can actually work with folders. Any suggestions?
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I personally like the pure series thats available in the market it allows you to combine your sms,email and gmail all on one widget with options for skins and such. Also allows for manual and automatic refresh I like it alot been using it for several months. good dev support etc.
proverbs308 said:
What is the best email app out there. I currently use the stock email app and have tried k9mail but I don't like the way either of these deal with folders. I would like to find an email client that can actually work with folders. Any suggestions?
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Gmail is the best by far
What I was looking for was an email program that had better nested folder access more like you have on the iPhone. I gave up my iPhone for the Hero but their email program had much better folder control.
I use Gmail. Once you understand how to use labels to mark your mail folders are no longer relevant.
http://www.g04.com/misc/GmailTipsComplete.html
danknee said:
I use Gmail. Once you understand how to use labels to mark your mail folders are no longer relevant.
http://www.g04.com/misc/GmailTipsComplete.html
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Gmail won't do exchange though, will it? I have the stock mail app set to 'as items arrive', and I seem to remember the gmail app won't do that (admittedly I haven't played with that app in awhile).
Googles Labels are very similar to Folders, once you understand them. Take a look at this:
http://lifehacker.com/5513040/gmail-adds-nested-labels-sneak-peek-to-labs
Also, with Gmail on my Hero, if I have Gmail open on the browser on my laptop, I can actually see the emails come in faster on the phone, and then within 30 seconds on the laptop.
I would say, give it a try, set up an account and see what happens.
smw6180 said:
Gmail won't do exchange though, will it? I have the stock mail app set to 'as items arrive', and I seem to remember the gmail app won't do that (admittedly I haven't played with that app in awhile).
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I have used Touchdown for Exchange and it does support Push email if your exchange server does. It isn't too bad, and there is a trial in the market.
scott2020 said:
I have used Touchdown for Exchange and it does support Push email if your exchange server does. It isn't too bad, and there is a trial in the market.
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Well my goal would be to be able to use one app for gmail and exchange. Right now I'm using k9 for gmail (I hate the gmail app and don't really like the stock mail app either) and stock for exchange.
I'm looking for a good email widget for CM7 RC2. I just synced my work exchange account with my phone and tried K9 but it was giving me an IO Error (no idea what that mean). I've tried looking for any type of widget, but not really finding anything good. You guys have any suggestions?
Have you tried K9 mail?
andythegreenguy said:
Have you tried K9 mail?
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I have, but it gives me an IO Error on my work exchange account.

What's the best email client?

I'm looking for a client that's as good as the iPhone mail client. I'd like it to support multiple exchange accounts as well as render html based email properly. Also an email client that will render all emails proportionally so I don't have to scroll left and right on an email unless I zoom in. Also supporting pinch to zoom would be great. I've tried K9 but was left unsatisfied on it's implementation... what are the better clients on Android?
I'm in the same conundrum(though not for exchange accounts, mostly IMAP).
Tried k9, which fails quite bad and maildroid, which is just slow. Finalyl just settled on the Samsung Mail app that came with my Galaxy S. I'm sure you can find an APK for it around somewhere if you have a different phone.
It's as close to the iPhone mail prgram as I can find on Android
dgovil said:
I'm in the same conundrum(though not for exchange accounts, mostly IMAP).
Tried k9, which fails quite bad and maildroid, which is just slow. Finalyl just settled on the Samsung Mail app that came with my Galaxy S. I'm sure you can find an APK for it around somewhere if you have a different phone.
It's as close to the iPhone mail prgram as I can find on Android
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I don't understand how any could could be disappointed in K9 Mail, it works flawlessly for me. The GUI is simple yet intuitive and presents the right information at the right time, it ALWAYS works, it's fast, it uses VERY little battery, it supports a great deal of functionality.
The GUI between 2 and 3 got even better adding "Move to Archive" and such type buttons, making common actions easier to do.
One more big plus; Tasker supports it, so you can act on incoming emails, send email, etc via K9.
Only two things it's missing IMO..
Per-folder alerts (I combine all emails (forwarded) into one, and most of them go into specific folders) would be nice, but I've done this in Tasker now so no biggie here.
Second, if you move mail to a folder you don't sync, it stays local and doesn't clean up. IE: If you move Trash mail to the server Trash folder, it moves on the server and on the mail client. However it never gets purged in K9 after X days or after the server deletes it if you don't sync that folder. So what I've done is I sync a few such folders once a day.
FYI, I use Dovecot for my IMAP server, one mailbox IDLE, 4-5 sync once a day. I use Tasker to turn off Syncing at night and have K9 set to not sync when it's disabled so at night K9 doesn't receive mails, turns back on in the morning for me. And when I get certain emails in (based on subject, sender, etc) Tasker alerts me in special ways.
I don't really use the encryption/signing functionality, but it also works quite well paired with APG.
I just don't see why anyone wouldn't like it if they use IMAP. I assume POP would be a similar experience. Exchange can DIAF.
I swear by K9 Mail. Best email app I've ever used. Bonus for being open-source and updated frequently too.
If you are not satisfied with the market release version of K-9 you can always DL a newer version from the development web site.
You can view changes by clicking on the source tab and then the changes sub-tab.
I used K9 as my default email client on the Mytouch 3G. It is a really good, strong, and full of features application. I highly recommend it. Right now I'm using the default that came with the Mytouch 4G because it fits my needs.
Theres always Touchdown and this another one that I can't recall name of if you want to go paid route , K9 does everything and more for me so i've no complaints, The iphone mail app is PATHETIC! look for samsung mail (social mail app) if you want but so far the best is K9 and touchdown for exchange
The stock mail app on my Captivate can't access Yahoo!mail on WIFI and when I tried K9, it slowed my phone down to a crawl. Everything lagged so badly I had to uninstall after less than an hour. And yeah, lag disappeared right after I uninstalled K9.
SO yeah, I, too, am looking for a good mail app.
Try Seven.....it's been working great for me.
seven.com
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naenee said:
A non-working link (you forgot the www) is a bad way to promote an app
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yeah, so, seven.com works by itself, and any website that REQUIRES www. is super lame anyway.
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A non-working link (you forgot the www) is a bad way to promote an app
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He wasn't promoting an app. He was trying to help by suggesting a program he likes.
If you are to lazy to cut and paste or type it in, then just hi on using the email program you use now.
try seven... it's the default mail client that comes on all of the galaxy phones.
lexluthor said:
He wasn't promoting an app. He was trying to help by suggesting a program he likes.
If you are to lazy to cut and paste or type it in, then just hi on using the email program you use now.
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Thanks dude...I figured smart people could figure out that I left the "WWW" out being I can't post links yet.
Again Seven works great for me. Try it.....
K-9 for sure.
K9 works good but not with Exchange 2010
Or there's always my app! Link is in my sig. I'm constantly working on it so new stuff is being added all the time.
For me without doubt Maildroid
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.maildroid&feature=search_result
Does seven work with any phone
I use Kaiten Mail. Its made by the same developers as K9 I believe but its more intuitive
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[Q] Email Client?

The installed email client (not gmail) looks decent but fails to support TLS as well as map folders such as Trash -> Deleted Items. I read the forums and noticed that Google neglected mapping issue since 2009!
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1811
I tried K-9 Mail for my IMAP email and found it to be quite decent but have a few issues:
1) Is there a widget that can display unread e-mail just like the default one? or last 3 e-mails display?
2) Can I replace the icon?
3) Is there a roadmap to include like a two-pane display like the default email client? Or another email client that is Honeycomb optimized?
4) Is there a way to disable the default e-mail client service since I will be longer be using it? Do I have to care about such services running in the background?
Thanks in advance!
ASR831 said:
The installed email client (not gmail) looks decent but fails to support TLS as well as map folders such as Trash -> Deleted Items. I read the forums and noticed that Google neglected mapping issue since 2009!
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1811
I tried K-9 Mail for my IMAP email and found it to be quite decent but have a few issues:
1) Is there a widget that can display unread e-mail just like the default one? or last 3 e-mails display?
2) Can I replace the icon?
3) Is there a roadmap to include like a two-pane display like the default email client? Or another email client that is Honeycomb optimized?
4) Is there a way to disable the default e-mail client service since I will be longer be using it? Do I have to care about such services running in the background?
Thanks in advance!
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Try Kaiten mail from the Market. It's based on K9, and made by the same person. Has the split pane thing. Little less polished than the stock offering, but the feature set more than makes up for it.
As for disabling stock, I guess just delete the accounts - shouldn't take up any resources that way. Or, go the whole way, and root your Transformer, then you can delete the Email.apk
+1 on Kaiten Mail. 4 updates in the past week - the developer is on top of it, and responds to emails. It's much more polished than it was 2 weeks ago.
Didn't know about Kaiten! Thanks! Hopefully it has the folder mapping. I guess I can find out by trying it for 15 minutes.
Do you know if there is a widget that would work with it?
+1 on Kaiten.
I don't think there is a widget for it. I wish there was...
There is no widget, and I've asked the dev about this - he has got some higher priority additions to make, and will hopefully have a widget done over the summer.
Well, despite rebooting working for me as mentioned above.. it appears as though a problem has crept in with the Asus email app.. basically if I have the transformer's WiFi sleep policy set to "WiFi off when screen off" then the Exchange push email config I have with my gmail stops working.. a reboot fixes it, but I know that this was working before...
The only thing I can think of trying is deleting my email setup and re-applying it - which I've done now.. will see if that cures anything but not holding my breath..
Anyone else using Exchange sync (to gmail) with the Asus email app.. and the same WiFi sleep settings?
I'm trying out Kaiten mail as well. Had some definite enhancements over K9 though some little glitches. For a dollar over the weekend in the Market it's worth playing with. Think i still prefer gmail app bc I got used to the convenience of the conversation style grouping which I find very handy for reviewing strings of messages. Hope to see Kaiten mail evolve as I'm sure it will.
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Suggest an email app, or solve my problem?

A friend of mine is getting her first ever smartphone and I want to help her transition as smoothly as possible. She will not give up her Hotmail account, so I need to find an app that will give her access to her emails, and preferably gives push notifications and allows easy attaching of documents.
I've been suckling on the Google/GMail teat for years and was mildly surprised when I 'unfroze' the native email app - it seems pretty decent. But it only gives options for attaching of pictures or videos, unlike the GMail app which has a generic 'attach file' button. Obviously I know that I could find my document using a file browser or other app and then 'share' it to the Email app, but this sort of 'well you can't do it this way, you have to do it that way' crap is what I want to avoid for my friend. I want everything to be obvious, easy and for her introduction to Android to be effortless.
Any suggestions, please? A free email app, with push, and easy file attachments of all types.
EDIT: I have just signed up for a Hotmail account so I can test apps myself. The Outlook.com app seems alright - anyone got experience using it? Any fatal flaws?
Try using [email protected] Mail Pro app. I use it since it pretty much unifies all of my email accounts in a neat way with plenty of customizations available for your taste. I especially like the fact that unlike with the built in app, I can create a unified email widget for all my accounts instead of having multiple widgets and it allows me to attach any kind of file, and has a pretty advanced editor. Try the free version first and see if you'd like to upgrade to the pro.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.onegravity.k10.free
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I use Aqua Mail which works very well for me, can sync with POP and IMAP accounts. Link https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.kman.AquaMail.
Thanks guys, but after testing it myself I think my friend will be happy enough with the Outlook.com app (although the interface certainly isn't to my taste, it is simple enough and does what she needs).
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Stock email app NOT gmail

Anyone know how to get the old stock email app working on pixel? I've installed an old apk but as soon as I try and open it, it says to use Gmail and points me that way. Makes me feel like I'm using an iPhone.
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bacon612 said:
Anyone know how to get the old stock email app working on pixel? I've installed an old all but as soon as I try and open it, it says to use Gmail and points me that way. Makes me feel like I'm using an iPhone.
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I just got my phone set up yesterday. Are you saying there was a different default e-mail app on this phone at some point? Mine only came with the Gmail app. Seems strange to me to not have Gmail be the stock email app on a Google phone.
Doesn't exist anymore
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laureanop said:
Doesn't exist anymore
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What this guy said. It's been phased out and its features have been moved to Gmail.
magnumtripod said:
I just got my phone set up yesterday. Are you saying there was a different default e-mail app on this phone at some point? Mine only came with the Gmail app. Seems strange to me to not have Gmail be the stock email app on a Google phone.
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laureanop said:
Doesn't exist anymore
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FoleyRose said:
What this guy said. It's been phased out and its features have been moved to Gmail.
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Wow. Thats too bad. Guess I'll have to wait for a custom rom to use it again. Its still in Cyanogenmod builds, maybe its in gapps. Anyhow, I really liked keeping it separate from gmail.
Yeah. You may be able to build it from source from CM but sounds like a pain.
bacon612 said:
Wow. Thats too bad. Guess I'll have to wait for a custom rom to use it again. Its still in Cyanogenmod builds, maybe its in gapps. Anyhow, I really liked keeping it separate from gmail.
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Why not just download another email app. Like Outlook, that one works well with all email accounts.
I'd strongly recommend K9 as an email app. Been using that since my G1 and it's still outstanding!
K9 or blue mail works great, I've used k9 for a long time, just switched over to blue, very hard to decide which one is the keeper ?
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These guys are not actually correct.
The "stock" email program STILL EXISTS, and in fact, is actually INSTALLED on Pixel devices from factory!
BUT, google has merged its UI into the GMAIL program.
So you have two options if you want to use the "stock" email program;
1) Set up your IMAP email account through the GMAIL program,
2) DISABLE the gmail program, and guess what happens? The "email" program launcher icon shows up in your launcher!
HOWEVER, it really is a much better idea to use k9mail instead. It is far more feature rich.
doitright said:
These guys are not actually correct.
The "stock" email program STILL EXISTS, and in fact, is actually INSTALLED on Pixel devices from factory!
BUT, google has merged its UI into the GMAIL program.
So you have two options if you want to use the "stock" email program;
1) Set up your IMAP email account through the GMAIL program,
2) DISABLE the gmail program, and guess what happens? The "email" program launcher icon shows up in your launcher!
HOWEVER, it really is a much better idea to use k9mail instead. It is far more feature rich.
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Neat, I didn't know that! Still gonna use K9 myself but that's pretty cool!
Aquamail would be my recommendation for a mail app. Easily the best and easiest to use of the six or eight that I tried...
doitright said:
These guys are not actually correct.
The "stock" email program STILL EXISTS, and in fact, is actually INSTALLED on Pixel devices from factory!
BUT, google has merged its UI into the GMAIL program.
So you have two options if you want to use the "stock" email program;
1) Set up your IMAP email account through the GMAIL program,
2) DISABLE the gmail program, and guess what happens? The "email" program launcher icon shows up in your launcher!
HOWEVER, it really is a much better idea to use k9mail instead. It is far more feature rich.
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That's a good find but unfortunately doesn't work for me. My mail server wont play nice with the Gmail app so I can't even get it configured. I still tried to disable Gmail but didn't see the stock email app. I then installed a stock email apk and it installed but still gives me the same screen saying that Gmail is the new everything app
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NickJHP said:
Aquamail would be my recommendation for a mail app. Easily the best and easiest to use of the six or eight that I tried...
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Aquamail Pro is nice, arguably better than K9, although it was just acquired by MobiSystems so who knows how future updates are going to look. Large companies acquiring small, indie developer projects does not usually end well for the app.
Security-wise, Aquamail, K9 and Nine are about the only third-party apps I'd consider.
I know this thread is now almost 2 months old.
what I"m looking for is a mail app to keep my gmail separate from my 2 exchange emails - and it MUST integrate with a calendar widget.
I haven't found one that works best. I liked the old "Mail" app - I could left swipe to delete, right to options - all your reply, reply-all, forward options right at the top of each message, rather than the options dots.
Outlook won't get sucked into my Google Calendar.
our3rotts said:
I know this thread is now almost 2 months old.
what I"m looking for is a mail app to keep my gmail separate from my 2 exchange emails - and it MUST integrate with a calendar widget.
I haven't found one that works best. I liked the old "Mail" app - I could left swipe to delete, right to options - all your reply, reply-all, forward options right at the top of each message, rather than the options dots.
Outlook won't get sucked into my Google Calendar.
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Aquamail - I tried just about every top email app. Also needed it to support Calendar, works perfect. I use the paid version and can't imagine a more customizable Android email client. Absolutely outstanding. Extremely reliable too.
Use Nine for Exchange. I've been using it for years, best Android email client.
ITGuy11 said:
Use Nine for Exchange. I've been using it for years, best Android email client.
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Yeah, definitely for Exchange. I still prefer K9 for IMAP (easy to have lots of aliases) but Nine is definitely where it's at for Exchange. Great integration to Calendar and more!
It seems that only the Lollipop branch of the stock email app 7.0-x is merged into Gmail. Earlier versions of the stock email app, targeted for KitKat like email app 6.3-x, are still working. I am on CM 11 and the fresh installed email app 6.3-1218562 seems functional and wants to be configured with an email account.
However, regarding security concerns it may be still better to use an alternative mail client like K9. I ask me now how that one performs on low-level phones with weak hardware. All these super-rich features of that nice K9 mailing app needs surely hardware power. I noticed a similar behavior also on more recent Gmail versions. These are far more hardware hungry then older ones. That's the reason why I like the stock email app, - it seems lightweight and fast.

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