[SOLVED!] Help with bootanimation resolution - Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've recently started to create a new bootanimation for my Moto G, but I can't get the resolution right! I know the res for the Moto G is 720 x 1280, but I can't find a way to make my images fit right. I extracted the images from the video I attached below with free video to JPG converter, but I am having trouble with the height. The video is in 1080p, and I need a way to increase the height I guess? I have spent hours on this, and if someone can show me how to fix this, I'll be extremely grateful. Thanks!

@The Dark Defender ..... Use the free graphics program "PhotoScape" ..... once using it select the option "Batch Edit" ...... then you will be able to edit all your jpg's in the animation sequence by selecting them and "Resizing" .... you may have to do a bit of "boxing and coxing" to keep the correct aspect ratio but I'm certain you will be able to sort that out. If I have time I'll look at your video and depending on how busy I am I might have a go and post back.

@The Dark Defender ..... I've done some work to your video. Firstly without wishing to "teach you how to suck eggs" I must make the following comment.....You say that the video is in HD (1080p), that statement is almost sudden death to boot animations because the number of frames that are produced by a 1080p process is huge compared with the number of comparable frames produced by "Standard Definition", I have produced several animations both for my phones and my tablet using clips I have captured from BD disks and the size of the animation jumps up alarmingly. So what I did with your video was as follows..... From the original files I deleted 224 frames from various parts of the video, trying to keep that figure to as many near duplicates as possible.....I then used PhotoScape ("Batch Edit") to resize the frames to 720 x 1280 .....I then built a boot animation using those frames ..... this built ok the only trouble being it was 95 Mg in size which is utterly outrageous!..... I then processed the frames through another graphics program (Pixillion Image Converter Plus) with which I was able to decrease the original definition and finished up with an animation which was 12 Mg in size which is acceptable.
JPG's from HD files are high quality, which can make for huge animations, and can stand having the definition reduced.
The two attached files are (1) The finished animation (the title tells you that one) and (2) The individual jpg frames altered as to size and definition and zipped (again the title is self explanatory).
I appreciate that the final effort might not be as you would wish but possibly you can work with the individual frames to achieve a result which you prefer. Feel free to use or adapt any part of my animation if it helps you.

Thank you
metpolds said:
@The Dark Defender ..... I've done some work to your video. Firstly without wishing to "teach you how to suck eggs" I must make the following comment.....You say that the video is in HD (1080p), that statement is almost sudden death to boot animations because the number of frames that are produced by a 1080p process is huge compared with the number of comparable frames produced by "Standard Definition", I have produced several animations both for my phones and my tablet using clips I have captured from BD disks and the size of the animation jumps up alarmingly. So what I did with your video was as follows..... From the original files I deleted 224 frames from various parts of the video, trying to keep that figure to as many near duplicates as possible.....I then used PhotoScape ("Batch Edit") to resize the frames to 720 x 1280 .....I then built a boot animation using those frames ..... this built ok the only trouble being it was 95 Mg in size which is utterly outrageous!..... I then processed the frames through another graphics program (Pixillion Image Converter Plus) with which I was able to decrease the original definition and finished up with an animation which was 12 Mg in size which is acceptable.
JPG's from HD files are high quality, which can make for huge animations, and can stand having the definition reduced.
The two attached files are (1) The finished animation (the title tells you that one) and (2) The individual jpg frames altered as to size and definition and zipped (again the title is self explanatory).
I appreciate that the final effort might not be as you would wish but possibly you can work with the individual frames to achieve a result which you prefer. Feel free to use or adapt any part of my animation if it helps you.
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Wow thanks so much! I'm gonna check these out right away. I had no idea 1080p wasn't optimal for bootanimations. I was just confused on how to get the proper resoluton for the images. I'll learn a lot from this, and I appreciate the time you put out to do this. Thank you.

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@metpolds The bootanimation you made is perfect, but for some reason my phone slowly stutters than freezes on almost the last couple of frames. The only way to stop it is to launch fastboot mode and go into recovery and system restore to a backup I luckily did not too long ago. It did this with another bootanimation as well. Hmm definitely phone related. It really stinks because I know it isn't a problem with the animations. Do you have any ideas on what might be causing this or how to fix? Your help will be greatly appreciated. Oh, and also don't know if it'll help but right before it freezes the screen's brightness drastically dims, almost like when it unlocks.
EDIT: Fixed! Turns out my boot logos need to be mp4 format because im using stock ROM. I'll get the hang of things eventually lol.

@The Dark Defender ..... Glad that I was able to help ..... As regards boot animations in mp4 format, I have to say (but I'm no expert) that Motorola is the only phone or tablet that I have knowledge or know of that uses mp4 video files instead of jpg or png single frames. However even though Motorola uses mp4's you can still use conventional single frame jpg's if you wish.
As you probably know if you create an animation in mp4 then it has to be placed in the following folder in your Moto G ...../data/local/moodle ..... and the mp4 type of desc.txt (videodesc.txt) has totally different parameters to that used by single frame animations. Again be careful of the size.
The stuttering you are experiencing I can't be certain about, I believe it's a fault with the animation, I seem to recall seeing someone in one of the threads experiencing the same problem but I can't remember exactly where or when. To be on the safe side I would be wary of installing it. If you felt adventurous you could delete some of the last frames i.e. the blue ones after the writing "Welcome to Sword Art online" making it shorter. BUT don't rely on my suggestion in case you "brick" your device.
Best of luck with your Moto G and animations.

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Photo and film optimal size

Hello i was wondering which is the optimal size for photos and films to fill/fit the screen.I guess you will say its 800x480 but if its so please tell me the best software to resize them.Thanks a lot.
P.S I searched around but for pics i couldnt find a resizer software with the desirable output size i am sure you know better.
Yes, the best size is 480 X 800 for photos (Portrait) and 800x480 for videos (landscape)
For resizing you can find MANY MANY apps floting around. But keep in mind that if the original photo doesn't have the right proportion and you resize it to 480X800 you'll get some distortion. The best way to achieve a good result is to resize you picture so that one of its sizes fits your phone, and the other size is bigger. Then, you simply CROP the picture to 480X800
Same rule applies for videos too...
Finally keep in mind that if you try to ENLARGE a photo, the more you enlarge it, the more distortion you'll have on the final image... Generally speaking avoid to resize anything for more than 150% as the final result will be distorted.
When you want to play video you can use the Video Encoding GUI. Works for me on the Blackstone

Which program to use for converting videos for phone?

I've got the HTC Legend and have used Doubletwist to sync and convert videos for it. It converts the videos nicely except they don't seem to be well compressed.. I used it to convert a movie and it ended up being a larger size than the original (700mb -> 800mb).
Instead of resizing it and keeping aspect ratio from 640 x 272 to 480 x 204 and letting the phone add black borders when the video plays, it added black borders itself and made it 480 x 320. Also the bitrate of the video was increased from 709 to 829 which seems unecessary.
I tried converting it also in Avidemux and got the file size smaller but it was not as high quality as the Doubletwist output.
But it seems logical that you should be able to get a smaller dimensions, same quality and smaller file size video..
What are some alternative softwares?
http://www.virtualdub.org/
Virtual dub is pretty fast, you can resize, crop, correct aspect ratios, deinterlace etc etc.
via the "filters" menu.
It's quite a minimalist piece of software, but it's transcodes very fast and has everthing you need.
Thanks, yeah I'm familiar with virtualdub.
However some of the videos I'm converting were .flv and it wasn't too happy with that. And I cant seem to find the exact right encoding options to maintain the quality DT can achieve, but also have a decent amount of compression
hmm - sounds hard to do in one pass. If you are lucky enough to have an editing package like Sony Vegas or After Effects it should be doable.
If you can bear a two -step conversion you can use this:
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/FLV_Extract
to convert FLV to AVI without loss.
Then use the encoding package of your choice to shrink the file to a phone friendly size.
Yeah I do have sony vegas, how would I do it in that?
And yeah the main problem is encoding it to be played on the phone. I can get the right format, but not perfect quality with decently low size

[Live wallpaper] Video Live Wallpaper 0.84b

Another creation of mine.
This is a blank live wallpaper that allows you to set your own video as a live wallpaper animation!
Lots of codecs and formats are supported.
You need to have your own video (preferably in MPEG-1 or MPEG-2 or divx) and set it in the Live Wallpaper's preferences. You can also set an entire folder (and optionally all its subfolders) and the Live Wallpaper will choose between all videos inside (randomly or not, your choice).
If you don't have any videos to play with, try this one or this one or this one. Download them with your computer and transfer them on your Android device, or downoad with the Android device directly (a common download destination is /sdcard/download). Then select one of them with the Video Live Wallpaper. (BTW, these videos are all reencoded electric sheeps designed by cqfd93 of the electric sheep project. Original links to the sheeps: 22906|22706|22551)
The preferences of the Video Live Wallpaper include Help which should help you get started with making your video(s) as live-wallpaper-friendly as possible. A copy of the same help document can also be accessed from here if you want.
Use the following link on your android device or scan this QR code:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Alternatively, you can get the Video Live Wallpaper from this link:
VLW-084b.apk [via mediafire]
Or you can get it from the bottom of this post if you are registrered to xda-developers.
0.84b is the most current version.
Changelog:
0.84b, published 2011-03-20 [from post 36]
- fixed a bug which prevented this app from working on certain devices like Dell Streak (thanks to guyver3869 for testing)
- fixed a minor memory usage bug, still working on the bigger one
0.83b, published 2010-12-06 [from post 30]
- fixed a bug where memory consumption would slowly raise and eventually crashed the app
- a new feature/setting called Rendering mode is introduced
0.82b, published 2010-10-13 [from post 13]
- fixed a bug where changelog kept showing in settings. Sorry about this!
0.81b, published 2010-10-13 [from post 13]
- fixed a bug where selecting certain directories would cause force closes
- fixed a bug where selecting a different video file would have no effect (thanks to rod for discovering the bug)
- corrected grammatical errors in help
0.8b, published 2010-10-09 [from post 3]
- initial version
Frequently asked questions - FAQ
I've downloaded and installed it. How do I open it?
This is a live wallpaper, not an app, you can't open it in a traditional sense. That is why the market button is disabled and that is why there is no app icon.
Follow this procedure to set it as a live wallpaper:
go to your home screen
press the menu button on your device
select "Wallpaper"
select "Live Wallpapers" *
search and select for "Video Live Wallpaper"
select "Settings" to see the settings and select the video file to play back. Then select "Set wallpaper" to activate it
(* if you don't see "Live Wallpapers" option in the "Select wallpaper from" menu then your device probably doesn't support Live Wallpapers)
My video loads but it's very jerky/looses frames alot, and it makes the home screen app very slow. What to do?
Not every codec and format is the best choice for the Video Live Wallpaper. The maximum video resolution recommended is 854x480, the maximum FPS at that resolution is 20. You can go as high as 30, but then decrease the resolution. MPEG-1, MPEG-2, MJPEG and MPEG-4 are the best codecs to choose for, while x263 and x264 are two of the worst possible ones because they are complex. If you have your video in a .flv or .mp4 format, try converting them to .mpg or .avi. In any case, please read this page (also embedded in the live wallpaper's help) to learn which kinds of videos are good and which aren't.
Why is there no sound? Will sound ever be supported?
Sound will likely never be supported, because:
it's extremely hard (with some codecs even impossible) to sync live wallpaper video to its audio due to how live wallpapers are handled (they often have to pause, they are often killed or slowed down by android in order to make swiping look smoother, for example, etc.)
sound just doesn't belong in an app that would play it all the time (or at least all the time that you're on a home screen). Shorter non-spontanious sounds are fine in a live wallpaper, but a long-lasting sound that never stops just starts to annoy the user after a while. Imagine for example you're in a meeting/at your job/in class and you can't even check the time on your phone without interrupting the said event. Imagine someone calling you and you suddenly hear two sounds out of your phone. Imagine listening to mp3s and being in the home menu at the same time. Sound just shoudn't be a part of any live wallpaper.
Please enable Move to SD.
No. Live wallpapers shouln't be movable to the SD. To learn why, read the official developer guide by Google.
Why does this Live wallpaper require internet access?
It's to download and show ads. They appear in the Live wallpaper's settings.
I can't find this on the market. Where is it?
Try to access it on your device directly using this link. If your Market can't find it then you probably have a version of Android prior to 2.1 which doesn't support Live Wallpapers.
I've downloaded the APK but I don't know how to/can't install it. How do I do it?
Try this:
on the phone, go to Settings -> Applications -> check "Unknown sources" *
find yourself a file browser on the Market. ASTRO File Manager is a good choice
open your file browser app, search for the APK file on your SD card and launch it. The phone should offer you a dialog to install the live wallpaper (or to select the Package Installer)
later when installed, go to home screen, press the menu key, select Wallpaper -> Live Wallpapers, search for Video Live Wallpaper
(* if your phone doesn't show the "Unknown sources" option, your carrier has disabled it. You might want to try one of the APK sideloading applications instead, like this one (you need a PC))
I can't download the APK. My phone says "Cannot download. The content is not supported on this phone". What to do?
Try downloading the app from the market first. If you can't, then download the APK with your computer and transfer the APK to the phone's SD Card. Or download with your phone using a downloading app, like ByteTornado.
This LWP is very cool. Thanks! How can I contribute?
In a number of ways:
by contacting me if you have any issues, not mentioned in this FAQ
by saying thanks
by buying me a cup of coffee or a pizza
great job! trying this now
Awesome job, it does work with some mp4 videos too, just a thought, you can try adding zoom out and timed
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
Sounds great, but how much does it hammer the battery?
Naffets said:
Sounds great, but how much does it hammer the battery?
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i havent seen too much battery drain with this so so far so good.
@OP are there any ideal settings for the best quality or performance?
trying this now, has google added slovenia to to market list (so you can release paid apps on market?)
very cool app Good job.
cheddie said:
i havent seen too much battery drain with this so so far so good.
@OP are there any ideal settings for the best quality or performance?
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Depends on the codec of the video. Mpeg1, mpeg2, mjpeg and divx are amongst the best, x264 (mp4) is not great because it's complex to decode. See help for details for the best codecs and resolutions/frame rates. Or just do the similar to the sample videos: 560x420 (4:3), 20 fps (can go up to 23.976), divx codec, 2500-3500 kbps.
frankinstine said:
Awesome job, it does work with some mp4 videos too, just a thought, you can try adding zoom out and timed
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
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A tough one, since the rendering is heavily optimized on the idea that the entire video doesn't have to be decoded.
What do you mean by timed?
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trying this now, has google added slovenia to to market list (so you can release paid apps on market?)
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No, not yet (what a shame since we're in EU, we can't even buy paid apps yet).
awesome app!!!
LWP is added to the market. The link and the QR code are added to the first post.
Just downloaded, it seems very interesting!!
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
New version published:
0.82b, published 2010-10-13
- fixed a bug where changelog kept showing in settings. Sorry about this!
0.81b, published 2010-10-13
- fixed a bug where selecting certain directories would cause force closes
- fixed a bug where selecting a different video file would have no effect (thanks to rod for discovering the bug)
- corrected grammatical errors in help
Great app and premise, but imo doesn't really seem worth it since the quality of the video and fps have to be lowered so much. I'll go ahead and download this to see just how much the quality is degraded as I've got some great hidef videos I wouldn't mind having as wallpaper. Has this been an issue with anyone else?
I haven't had a problem with the fps of any of the 720p youtube vids I've downloaded, though 720p ends up looking pixellated. 270x360 looks better. Using http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92jyNSaNmT4 and it looks pretty good.
cr6 said:
Great app and premise, but imo doesn't really seem worth it since the quality of the video and fps have to be lowered so much. I'll go ahead and download this to see just how much the quality is degraded as I've got some great hidef videos I wouldn't mind having as wallpaper. Has this been an issue with anyone else?
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No reason not to try and experiment. For example on my Nexus, a 1280x720 video in MPEG-1 format will play at about 15 FPS if I disable frame skipping.
If I wanted it faster, I could crop it down to 720x720, which would then be able to be played at 20 FPS.
If I cropped it down further to 432x720 (which is the same ratio as the phone's 480x800 display), it would easily play at 25 FPS which is enough for my eyes, but still in full display's resolution.
If you know how to use ffmpeg, then this command will crop and convert a 720p .mkv file down to 720x720 at 20 FPS .mpg:
Code:
ffmpeg -i "720-input.mkv" -an -vcodec mpeg1video -vb 8000k -vf "crop=280:0:720:720" -r 20 "720-output.mpg"
Or this command would crop it to 432x720 at 25 FPS:
Code:
ffmpeg -i "720-input.mkv" -an -vcodec mpeg1video -vb 8000k -vf "crop=424:0:432:720" -r 25 "720-output.mpg"
paulk_ said:
I haven't had a problem with the fps of any of the 720p youtube vids I've downloaded, though 720p ends up looking pixellated. 270x360 looks better. Using http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92jyNSaNmT4 and it looks pretty good.
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Wicket video!
Flv and Mp4, while they work, are not the best formats to use with VLW. Try to convert them to .avi (divx) or .mpg (MPEG-1) for even better results.
Find your own way to convert, or use the free ffmpeg tool in one of the following two ways:
Code:
ffmpeg -i "original.flv" -an -vcodec mpeg4 -vb 8000k "converted.avi"
ffmpeg -i "original.flv" -an -vcodec mpeg1video -vb 8000k "converted.mpg"
(bitrate is overrated at 8000k, but the quality will probably be very good)
Thanks for the info, I'll definately give it a try!
Would any one care to donate a little time to make a video tutorial on how to use this live wallpaper? How to select a file to play, how to select an entire folder, what options are there, what video sizes are bad, etc...
I would embed it in the main web page of the app (and of course thank the author):
http://android.ccpcreations.com/vlw/
best video specs
Hello pikipirs et all!
I donatated $10 bucks because I really like the idea of true video wallpaper on my N1 and hope that you continue to develop and improve the app!
One can find lots of great video loops on the net that can be used. Some of them look great (i.e. Wallpaper attachment). Others look poor quality (i.e fs21 attachment). And others stop all together sometimes.
So I guess what I would like is simple, step by step instructions on how to convert or optimize a video so that it looks great and runs smoothly. I've tried using MediaCoder for example to convert the videos that look bad to MPEG1 (which you indicated in the help section was the best format) but they still look bad. What is the best format? Size? Resolution? Frame-rate? So that it looks perfect and how can one convert a video to these specifications? Can any video, formatted correctly, look good?
Oh and another suggestion would be, instead of the app randomly picking videos and switching them all the time, what about the option to only switch it when you 'wake-up' the device so that it doesn't cut into another video while you are viewing it but continues to loop.
Thanks again for the great app. Like I said some vids I've found look great but still, it would be nice to know how to make any video look as good.
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Hello pikipirs et all!
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Hey.
Bryce2010 said:
I donatated $10 bucks because I really like the idea of true video wallpaper on my N1 and hope that you continue to develop and improve the app!
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Thanks.
Bryce2010 said:
One can find lots of great video loops on the net that can be used. Some of them look great (i.e. Wallpaper attachment). Others look poor quality (i.e fs21 attachment). And others stop all together sometimes.
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Be prepared for a long answer.
This is subjective, I guess. The video will show in as good a quality as it actually is. The VLW (video live wallpaper) always zooms into a video in such a way that it covers the entire height of the display, while its ratio is not changed. The video's width is then used as scrolling surface so it shifts when you swipe between home screens.
The first video you posted has a vertical resolution of 480. This resolution fits very well in the height of a small mobile display (whatever resolution it might be) so you don't see alot of pixels. In fact, 480 is the maximum vertical resolution that I recommend for VLW, as higher ones might start causing the animation to play slower/skip video frames.
The second video you posted has a vertical resolution of 220. This gets close to the lower bound of acceptible pixel density for your eyes. While this is good on your phone's battery (VLW doesn't have to struggle as much to decode the video), it's not good on you eyes, that is, you can see video pixels which spoils the experience. One idea that I would have for the second video is maybe to reencode it rotated by 90 degrees. This way its vertical resolution will become 400 (current width) which would be easier on the eyes. (hold back on the rotating/reencoding part a little longer, as I plan on adding an option to rotate videos in the VLW).
Videos may play slower or even stop if they are too large for the underpowered phone's processor to handle. If you've been using computers for the last 10 years, then you should remember the ones that struggled to even play divx files properly. Some computers (like netbooks) have problems playing back HD content even today. The same is true for your phone. While a common divx should be handled by VLW just fine, any HD content (720p or 1080p) is way to much to handle. I guess what I'm trying to say is, don't go overboard with the resolution and don't expect miracles from your phone's processor.
Bryce2010 said:
So I guess what I would like is simple, step by step instructions on how to convert or optimize a video so that it looks great and runs smoothly. I've tried using MediaCoder for example to convert the videos that look bad to MPEG1 (which you indicated in the help section was the best format) but they still look bad. What is the best format? Size? Resolution? Frame-rate? So that it looks perfect and how can one convert a video to these specifications? Can any video, formatted correctly, look good?
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There is no easy way to describe how to convert videos, as it almost always depends on the original video itself. As I said, a video is as good as it actually is. Reencoding, converting and/or enlarging it digitally won't make it any nicer.
Format changing is reasonable when you are dealing with resolutions and sizes that become hard to handle by the phone. Imagine a video with 854x480 at 30 FPS (your usual 480p video on youtube, for example). VLW has to process 854*480*30=12,297,600 pixels each second if it wants to play the video in real time. If this video is in h264 (which 480p youtube videos with .mp4 extension are) then it's even worse because h264 codec is very complex, which makes the processing part even harder. That's why I recommend reencoding to a less complex format, like mpeg-1 or mpeg-4 (divx).
Best format globally in my opinion is divx (mpeg-4 .avi). It represents a good compromise between complexity and size for a given quality. If you want less complexity (=more battery live), go with videoCD format (mpeg-1 .mpg) which will require larger files for the same quality, but is easier to decode for VLW.
Also one other thing to note, .mpg files need a bit of time to reload. This makes them useless for looping animations as the animation appears to freeze when looping. This is true for a lot of other formats/codecs as well. Divx doesn't have that pause (well it does, but it's amost unnoticable).
Resolution/frame rate is another tough one. The easiest way of going about it is to calculate the processed pixels per second, as I did above for the youtube video example. You can find all the help on how to do this in the help section. If you get your videos from standard 16:9 or 4:3 sources, then a couple of good resolution/framerate combinations are described in the help section. I recommend 360p (640x360 for 16:9, 480x360 for 4:3 videos, both at 30 FPS) or 480p (854x480 for 16:9, 640x480 for 4:3 videos, both at 25 FPS) in divx format. Remember once again - the biggest factor in the appearent quality of a perfectly reencoded video, is its vertical resolution. be between 360 and 480 and you'll be fine. The second biggest factor is frame rate, hold that one between 30FPS for 360p and 25FPS for 480p.
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Oh and another suggestion would be, instead of the app randomly picking videos and switching them all the time, what about the option to only switch it when you 'wake-up' the device so that it doesn't cut into another video while you are viewing it but continues to loop.
Thanks again for the great app. Like I said some vids I've found look great but still, it would be nice to know how to make any video look as good.
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So you suggest adding an option to keep looping the same (but randomly choosen) video, and switch to another video only when the live wallpaper unpauses? That's a good idea. To a todo list...
PS: Are you on a mac or on Windows? I might be able to make a couple of simple scripts that use FFmpeg to convert videos with common ratios to better sizes/formats.

Newb question: Best video decoding settings.

Im going to try and make this short.
I realize this may not be the best place to ask but i know you guys are the best to ask.
What are the best 1) resolution 2) bit rate 3) quality settings for encoding video for the gtab that give you a nice picture and dont break the ram bank.
At 768x450 2000bits/sec My test movie is 1.3gb. At the native 1024x600 the file size hits in the 1.7gb neighborhood (nice looking but probably not feasible unless i am only going to put one or two movies on here at a time...would like to do 5 or 6)
I tried it at 512/300 (50% of the native resolution) and a bit rate of 800bps and did manage to get the file at around 500mbs but the quality was just sub par for my tastes (fuzzy VISIBLY jerky).
Rather than me testing for days and days..i was wondering what settings you guys had set on (and why).
Thanks!
Allen
Edit: The H.264mp4 format was causing artifacting that i couldnt fix at any setting..
Right now i am using .mp4 at 768x450 (or a 75% scale of the native resolution) and a bit rate of 1,500 with the sound set at DVD quality (which actually does help since i use blue tooth head phones). File size still just at 1gb (that maybe about the smallest i can do with the quality i like). Even at that setting...its still a tad jerky. What should i try? Lowering the resolution and upping the bit rate a tad more???
Still wanting to know if any of you guys have a magic setting for me!
The good news here is that i am not loading my up memory with mp3/songs (have an iphone for that) using pandora radio instead. Regular apps dont take up too much room so i figure i probably have around 10G to play with for video. (when vegan gets the SD card utilizatin fixed ill have another 8G on top of that).
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Still looking for settings suggestions.
I am using 720X480 @ 1,500kbs in MP4. This gets me ~1.2gb files. It is the actual resolution of a DVD, which is where my material is sourced. This lets the display device do the scaling, rather than the encoding process.
Robert Duncan said:
I am using 720X480 @ 1,500kbs in MP4. This gets me ~1.2gb files. It is the actual resolution of a DVD, which is where my material is sourced. This lets the display device do the scaling, rather than the encoding process.
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Duh that makes total sense!
Testing now.
Any ideas what the "video quality output settins are". 1 is best, 32 is worse. 26 is recommended.
I dont have much to go on. I see the recommended settings for an ipad are 1335 bit rate and a quality setting of 24.
UPdate: When i did a test run with higher settings i noticed the video would lag every three or four seconds. I concluded that the settings were too high for the hardware to handle. Likewise when i set them too low..it was jerky, and i concluded the bit rate was too low for smooth frame rates.
At 720x480 1500Bits (and a "quality setting of 24"). The lag is MUCH better, but it still lags about every 20 seconds or so (very briefly). I will test at 1400bits/26q and see what happens.
Jeeze! A lot of work.... its too bad someone hadnt already figured all this out and just given me the quick answer! lol
Thanks again for the answer!
You should be able to play 1080 with no lag?
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You may want to grab a program called Mediainfo. This program analyzes the video file and tells you what profile was used, video and audio encoding stats. I was using this to make sure my source and output files were not using the "High" profile. I have some 1080 files re-encoded under the "Simple" profile and they look great with zero lag. I have re-encoded all my files with Handbrake and the all work without lag.
I used the info listed in roebeet's FAQ post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=842899
daml said:
You should be able to play 1080 with no lag?
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BUT why when the screen resolution is only 1024x600?
DONT need media info unless reatail dvds are encoded with more than one setting Are they?
I saw roebeets post about using the ipad settings but that makes no sense. THE ipad has a different resoultion and a less powerful processor.
I am getting lag at 720x450 1500bits but not at 720x450 1400 bits. Very interesting.

[Q] Handbrake transcoded widescreen video still displays black bars?

First off, I don't understand video and audio very much beyond the basics.
I'd previously used handbrake to rip DVDs to my wife's ipad. When the aspect ratios agree, she's golden. When they don't, she doesn't care since she's used to seeing letterboxing on our TV.
However, I've tried to rip a widescreen movie to my Transformer and see the black bars in the video. I'd assumed since I was ripping a widescreen video to a widescreen device, it would fill the screen. Seeing black bars is no real issue apart from being annoying, so I'm trying to get rid of them.
I've been doing some reading and have tried to play with the anamorphic settings to try and fill the screen out, without any luck.
At this point, I think I'm either missing something very basic, have a fundamental misunderstanding as to how this is supposed to work, or some combination of the two.
I would appreciate and helpful tips or advice anyone might be able to offer.
BTW, I'm using the settings I found here: http://www.ryukent.co.uk/2011/05/asus-eeepad-transformer-handbrake-settings/
And also, here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060825
thanks
Dave
my handbreak video displays fine! Try it in rockplayer, not the original stock player and it will strech to aspect properly
The Transformer's aspect ratio is 1280x800px; the standard 16:9 widescreen videos will probably encode (or expand) to 1280x720px - which will leave 40 pixels of unused space (your black bars) at the top and bottom of your screen.
Many players allow you to stretch videos to fill the entire screen (moboPlayer allows this).
Many films are 2.39:1, which would be 1280x535 on the TF which will leave a lot of empty space unless you stretch/crop (neither of which is desirable)....
daverod said:
First off, I don't understand video and audio very much beyond the basics.
I'd previously used handbrake to rip DVDs to my wife's ipad. When the aspect ratios agree, she's golden. When they don't, she doesn't care since she's used to seeing letterboxing on our TV.
However, I've tried to rip a widescreen movie to my Transformer and see the black bars in the video. I'd assumed since I was ripping a widescreen video to a widescreen device, it would fill the screen. Seeing black bars is no real issue apart from being annoying, so I'm trying to get rid of them.
I've been doing some reading and have tried to play with the anamorphic settings to try and fill the screen out, without any luck.
At this point, I think I'm either missing something very basic, have a fundamental misunderstanding as to how this is supposed to work, or some combination of the two.
I would appreciate and helpful tips or advice anyone might be able to offer.
BTW, I'm using the settings I found here: http://www.ryukent.co.uk/2011/05/asus-eeepad-transformer-handbrake-settings/
And also, here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060825
thanks
Dave
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Depends on the movies. Some movies are 16:9 or (1.78), will others are Cinema Scope (2.35). The 2.35 will always have black bars, even on wide screen. Read the packaging, it should give you the aspect ratio. They are ultra wide. Personally I wish Hollywood would dump 2.35, but it appears to be the trending thing to do. Frankly, I just think they do it to give you a reason to go to a theater.
FYI: It appears the that Automatic crop doesn't work, at least on Blu-Ray mkvs.
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Many films are 2.39:1, which would be 1280x535 on the TF which will leave a lot of empty space unless you stretch/crop (neither of which is desirable)....
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Yea, have a movie around that frame height. Im sure i know the answer already, but please confirm.
Its impossinke to stretch/increase the height frame through sofware like handbrake right?
So, you can shrink it, but just cant stretch it or make it bigge, atleast without losing quality...
Thanks
turbulent28 said:
Yea, have a movie around that frame height. Im sure i know the answer already, but please confirm.
Its impossinke to stretch/increase the height frame through sofware like handbrake right?
So, you can shrink it, but just cant stretch it or make it bigge, atleast without losing quality...
Thanks
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You can stretch it but everything will look very tall and thin - If you like your movies about NBA basketball players that might be fun.
You can crop and then expand the frame but this will lose quality as you are essentially zooming in -- parts on the outside of the frame will be lost.
The black bars are not the fault of the device, they're the fault of the movie industry.
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