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[Q] phone choice

I have been locked into contracts forever and am finally in a couple of months out of contract and plan on purchasing a phone out of contract. I have had mixed experiences with rooting my phones and the ROMs for different models. With my next purchase I would like to pick a phone from a manufacturer that is easy to create stable ROMs and wanted your guys input.
One of the phones I had success with in the past was the original motorola droid and then moved to the xperia play which I couldnt do anything too without paying someone to unlock it, which I never did. I currently have the galaxy s and it seems ok for ROMs, though I read a G+ post from one of the XDA developers that stated samsung was difficult to work with and what they release for code and was a big pain to create ROMs from. He mentioned that Sony mobile was getting much better, but in the past I've leared to loathe Sony. At any rate what manufacturers are currently good to look at for root/romable phones? Also any thoughts on specific phones would be nice to look through.
Currently on my list is the nexus using walmarts sim cards, but am not opposed to looking at almost anything with any vendor. Unfortunately Tmobiles not in my area, because that seems like a good place for plans.
Thank you

I'm basically researching what phones will be easily rootable and will/have ROMs and is also a fully featured phone so I can use all the new tech that has come out lately. Thank you

Xceptiona1noob said:
I have been locked into contracts forever and am finally in a couple of months out of contract and plan on purchasing a phone out of contract. I have had mixed experiences with rooting my phones and the ROMs for different models. With my next purchase I would like to pick a phone from a manufacturer that is easy to create stable ROMs and wanted your guys input.
One of the phones I had success with in the past was the original motorola droid and then moved to the xperia play which I couldnt do anything too without paying someone to unlock it, which I never did. I currently have the galaxy s and it seems ok for ROMs, though I read a G+ post from one of the XDA developers that stated samsung was difficult to work with and what they release for code and was a big pain to create ROMs from. He mentioned that Sony mobile was getting much better, but in the past I've leared to loathe Sony. At any rate what manufacturers are currently good to look at for root/romable phones? Also any thoughts on specific phones would be nice to look through.
Currently on my list is the nexus using walmarts sim cards, but am not opposed to looking at almost anything with any vendor. Unfortunately Tmobiles not in my area, because that seems like a good place for plans.
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Try something like Xperia Sola or GO but if you have a little more money buy Xperia Z ...Theese phones are good to customize as I have been trying and almost everything works...include custom kernels etc.
I have now Xperia Sola and I have set up new custom rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2227059 currently waiting for V4 update but V3 works like a charm on it...no lags .. free to customize really good one. Maybe some HTC One will be good but I am fan of Sony

I disagree
Oriann said:
Try something like Xperia Sola or GO but if you have a little more money buy Xperia Z ...Theese phones are good to customize as I have been trying and almost everything works...include custom kernels etc.
I have now Xperia Sola and I have set up new custom rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2227059 currently waiting for V4 update but V3 works like a charm on it...no lags .. free to customize really good one. Maybe some HTC One will be good but I am fan of Sony
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I think the Sony Xperia Sola would be a poor choice, he is thinking about the nexus which is high end compared to the Sola, besides, the Sola is a pain to root (personal experience) while the nexus would by far be the most moddable and developer friendly device....
Xceptiona1noob said:
I read a G+ post from one of the XDA developers that stated samsung was difficult to work with and what they release for code and was a big pain to create ROMs from.
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The Samsung Galaxy S4 has been out for a very short period of time, and it already has root methods and custom ROMs, if you go for Samsung you won't be dissappointed...just choose your ROM carefully...starting out with the basic cyanogenMod is great....
BTW the Nexus is an awesome device!
P.S: Youtube would be your friend on how various devices can be customised

This is the sort of thing I'm nervous about http://www.geek.com/android/att-will-sell-the-galaxy-s4-with-a-locked-bootloader-1553657/
My old Xperia play had a locked bootloader.
Is there a place to look for best phones for putting mods on? it seems like such a crap shoot, I might decide on the S4 and then just by going through ATT I screw myself even though initially I think its just like the other vendors models.
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in reality I know my only safe choice is nexus, I just wish there was more out there.

Xceptiona1noob said:
This is the sort of thing I'm nervous about http://www.geek.com/android/att-will-sell-the-galaxy-s4-with-a-locked-bootloader-1553657/
My old Xperia play had a locked bootloader.
Is there a place to look for best phones for putting mods on? it seems like such a crap shoot, I might decide on the S4 and then just by going through ATT I screw myself even though initially I think its just like the other vendors models.
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in reality I know my only safe choice is nexus, I just wish there was more out there.
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Have you considered something not so mainstream like the Oppo find 5 ??
This is one great phone...see reviews and specs...
Also it has lots of development and capabilities...
BTW if the bootloader of the Samsung S4 is locked...developers will find various ways to unlock it....i don't think you should consider this also because of how the S4 is so popular...
Do your searches and studies...and i hope you make a good decision that you will be comfortable with....

I would be very interested in somthing like the oppo 5. Thanks for the heads up.

You really can't go wrong with the nexus.
The one is also available unlocked from htc.
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News 4.3 Update

Now sony official release the update upcoming to Xperia devices for 4.3 update..
From Sony
Last week you probably saw Google announce Android version 4.4; Kit Kat…
We’ve seen lots of questions on our Android upgrade roadmap and equally, we have lots to tell you, so here’s a note on just that…
First up, Jelly Bean 4.3
We’re pleased to tell you that we’ll start rolling Android 4.3 for Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia ZR, Xperia Tablet Z, Xperia SP, Xperia Z Ultra and Xperia Z1 from next month*.
We also mentioned that a few of our products would be jumping software version – so, we can confirm that Xperia T, Xperia TX and Xperia V* will be upgraded to Android Jelly Bean 4.3… also from next month.
And, to Kit Kat 4.4
We’re also happy to tell you about the first raft of Xperia products that we’ll make Android 4.4 Kit Kat available for – they are: Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia Tablet Z, Xperia Z Ultra and Xperia Z1*.
On that, please stay tuned to the social newsroom and @SonyMobileNews, where we’ll update you with specific info on product upgrade timings & software features as things progress.
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to drop them below.
*Software rollouts are a phased process – timings & availability may vary by market / carrier
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So XL is not getting 4.3...what a surprise.At least now I know that Sony support on mid-range and low-end devices is crap....the only big thing they did for us was to update to 4.2.2,however this update also have bugs so I don't see any difference between sony official support and custom rom.If someone doesn't start to work on a CM soon we'll be stuck with this 4.2.2 until we can manage to get a new phone....sony mid range phone?never again

Well, wrath of users was expected and even I wanted Sony to give 4.3 or 4.4 update.
But seriously have you even seen a mid-range phone getting more than one android version update? I think the answer is NO.
Sony has still handled Xperia L quite well and we should patiently wait for bug fix update of our latest 4.2.2 build.
And don't lose hope on CM ever, its just a matter of time. Even development of my other awesome phone(HTC Explorer) started after a lot of time and now it has fully working CM10.2. See, the phone was launched with 2.3 and was completely abandoned by HTC but it has one of the best developments for legacy devices. So, don't lose hope and keep calm.

Lol... I'm switching to Google nexus.. Sony can go **** themselves. It's stupid that they're not bothered to release atleast 4.3 when our phone was released just about 6 months ago, just wow.
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joel113- said:
Lol... I'm switching to Google nexus.. Sony can go **** themselves. It's stupid that they're not bothered to release atleast 4.3 when our phone was released just about 6 months ago, just wow.
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Yea, next time will be nexus...
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joel113- said:
Lol... I'm switching to Google nexus.. Sony can go **** themselves. It's stupid that they're not bothered to release atleast 4.3 when our phone was released just about 6 months ago, just wow.
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Well, Nexus does give you freedom and choices of lots of custom roms. It's price is great and it's very good phone. I have Nexus 4 and I do like it. I will certainly recommend it. The only thing you need to think is how long you intend to use it. Buying the every latest devices is not very wise as you spend alot of your money for just one or two extra features.
I think to update my Nexus 7 2013 in 2015 and my Nexus 4 Next year (October 2014) while Xperia L around when it is required. I would be using it for a couple of years too I believe. Following this scheme I always have the latest device with me and I also do not spend a lot of money. (700-800 British Pounds every three year, considering that I am a Medicine Student and under a lot of loan already). Also what is more to look is that my old devices are still doing a great job. I recently installed CM 10.2(JB 4.3) in HTC Sensation and it runs just as smooth as Nexus 4/Xperia L for the matter. The software is stable and I can play HD games on 786MB RAM only.
Another point to note is that KitKat 4.4 has only been released for about a week now and I am using 4.3 on my two year old HTC sensation using Custom ROM.
Now most of manufacturers are working hard on ONLY hardware. Even phones released two years ago are doing very well till date. However, if you look into software department and games, you can still play all of latest games on these devices very smoothly. I will give you examples of HTC sensation/Incredible S, Samsung Nexus, SII or any other phone of that time with almost similar hardware. I have checked MC4/Fifa 14/Asphlat 8 personally on all of these devices. Also with KITKAT 4.4, Android has gone into a surge to speed up system by 50% and that's just beginning.
You might be wondering, the new ROMS are not available. Well actually they are but custom made. If you check out Android development of these phones, you will be surprised that many developers are giving their best to just work hard on new ROMS and they are all great.
The only drawback that I see is of Nexus devices is that it doesnot have a removable battery. This is just a big draw back for me as I keep three devices and I update each one annually so this means that I need to change my nexus after using it for around 2 years to 3 years. In this time, I need to change my battery as battery does get worn out and damaged. But I just can not easily do that although it can be done but usually nexus batteries are hard to find comparatively.
Remember to always BUY A DEVICE WHICH IS DEVELOPERS FRIENDLY. You won't find much ROMS for HTC Amaze although it has almost the same specification as HTC sensation.
About Xperia L, usually a manufacturer updates it devices for around 18 months in high end devices and around the same time for middle ranged devices or maybe 12 months. When will Kitkat be available for Xperia L? It might take a long time (first all new high end devices Z1 and Z ultra, then recent high end devices and then the lower and middle end devices)
I clearly see why there isnot a chance for Xperia L to directly jump to 4.4 or maybe this is what I am hoping to use Xperia L in the long run.

Hnk1 said:
Well, Nexus does give you freedom and choices of lots of custom roms. It's price is great and it's very good phone. I have Nexus 4 and I do like it. I will certainly recommend it. The only thing you need to think is how long you intend to use it. Buying the every latest devices is not very wise as you spend alot of your money for just one or two extra features.
I think to update my Nexus 7 2013 in 2015 and my Nexus 4 Next year (October 2014) while Xperia L around when it is required. I would be using it for a couple of years too I believe. Following this scheme I always have the latest device with me and I also do not spend a lot of money. (700-800 British Pounds every three year, considering that I am a Medicine Student and under a lot of loan already). Also what is more to look is that my old devices are still doing a great job. I recently installed CM 10.2(JB 4.3) in HTC Sensation and it runs just as smooth as Nexus 4/Xperia L for the matter. The software is stable and I can play HD games on 786MB RAM only.
Another point to note is that KitKat 4.4 has only been released for about a week now and I am using 4.3 on my two year old HTC sensation using Custom ROM.
Now most of manufacturers are working hard on ONLY hardware. Even phones released two years ago are doing very well till date. However, if you look into software department and games, you can still play all of latest games on these devices very smoothly. I will give you examples of HTC sensation/Incredible S, Samsung Nexus, SII or any other phone of that time with almost similar hardware. I have checked MC4/Fifa 14/Asphlat 8 personally on all of these devices. Also with KITKAT 4.4, Android has gone into a surge to speed up system by 50% and that's just beginning.
You might be wondering, the new ROMS are not available. Well actually they are but custom made. If you check out Android development of these phones, you will be surprised that many developers are giving their best to just work hard on new ROMS and they are all great.
The only drawback that I see is of Nexus devices is that it doesnot have a removable battery. This is just a big draw back for me as I keep three devices and I update each one annually so this means that I need to change my nexus after using it for around 2 years to 3 years. In this time, I need to change my battery as battery does get worn out and damaged. But I just can not easily do that although it can be done but usually nexus batteries are hard to find comparatively.
Remember to always BUY A DEVICE WHICH IS DEVELOPERS FRIENDLY. You won't find much ROMS for HTC Amaze although it has almost the same specification as HTC sensation.
About Xperia L, usually a manufacturer updates it devices for around 18 months in high end devices and around the same time for middle ranged devices or maybe 12 months. When will Kitkat be available for Xperia L? It might take a long time (first all new high end devices Z1 and Z ultra, then recent high end devices and then the lower and middle end devices)
I clearly see why there isnot a chance for Xperia L to directly jump to 4.4 or maybe this is what I am hoping to use Xperia L in the long run.
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Agreed
Maybe nexus 5 would be a good choice.

Hnk1 said:
About Xperia L, usually a manufacturer updates it devices for around 18 months in high end devices and around the same time for middle ranged devices or maybe 12 months. When will Kitkat be available for Xperia L? It might take a long time (first all new high end devices Z1 and Z ultra, then recent high end devices and then the lower and middle end devices)
I clearly see why there isnot a chance for Xperia L to directly jump to 4.4 or maybe this is what I am hoping to use Xperia L in the long run.
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You are right,but XL is 6-7 months old,and if mid-range device get 12 month support this makes 5-6 months support more.I think that is enough time to make 4.3(why not 4.4...) update where all the bugs that are present in 4.2.2 are fixed.
Who knows,maybe we will see bugfree update some day

How my im so suprised ! About that ,..
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joel113- said:
Agreed
Maybe nexus 5 would be a good choice.
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Buying a phone?
check this out :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47227668#post47227668

I will never buy sony phones if they won't update xperia L to 4.4 kitkat

Bye Sony!
I've got myself an Xp-L and if Sony abandons it in 4.2.2 (which very likely is), I will never buy any Sony phone, ever.

come on people. this is the 'first draft', simply meaning that these will be the first phones which will get the update. i.e sony has prioritized them. they will be working the update for these devices and then come to other phones. and if you are saying like ' i wont buy sony phone ever again' then good luck with other manufacturers mid-range devices.

I said that I won't buy Sony too...but if I think about it...Samsung makes expensive devices, LG is no better than Sony in terms of updates and hardware...and others aren't so trustworthy... So I guess I'll be sticking with Sony until I'll afford a high end device. Then I'll really have a choice.
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I just wanna say just chillax guys!! Updates will come when the right time comes! Just read this link to calm down!
http://www.androidsas.com/2013/11/the-world-will-not-see-gingerbread.html?m=1

What do you need from 4.3 or 4.4 ?
I have seen a lot of complaints here "when we will get 4.3 or 4.4) and so on and so on. My question to all of you whiners out there is as following, what do you need 4.4 or 4.3 for ? Is there something in this version that you ppl need or is it just need to have latest version of OS so that you can brag about or what ?
I uppgrade ONLY when there is a bugfix or something that I actually NEED. If it says 4.1 or 15.2 on my android has no point whatsoever in my world. What is imprtant that my does what is designed to do and Xperia XL even with 4.1 is just fine. Stop whining and actually use that phone for waht is intended for.

Redzo said:
I have seen a lot of complaints here "when we will get 4.3 or 4.4) and so on and so on. My question to all of you whiners out there is as following, what do you need 4.4 or 4.3 for ? Is there something in this version that you ppl need or is it just need to have latest version of OS so that you can brag about or what ?
I uppgrade ONLY when there is a bugfix or something that I actually NEED. If it says 4.1 or 15.2 on my android has no point whatsoever in my world. What is imprtant that my does what is designed to do and Xperia XL even with 4.1 is just fine. Stop whining and actually use that phone for waht is intended for.
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True! But what is going here is that if Sony can bring us the update like other phones then why not?
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I hope Xperia L get KitKat or at least 4.3 someday. If it doesn't get any update and stuck at 4.2, you Sony, will see LG/Samsung on my ****ing signature!!!

If the updates are so importants buy a nexus!!!
And then you people have the last OS android...
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Need update to fix the bug just that ! . , waste money if using a smarthphone got many bugs ,
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[Q] Why not Xperia L??

Xperia M is getting android 4.3. Any news for Xperia L???
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...sony-xperia-m-preparing-for-imminent-release/
It's a good news Sony still remembers mid-rangers, But what about Xperia l??

That is only just testing first, if it pass, then sony will do the update, but if didn't, so it didn't...
Hope xperia l, m, and m dual will get at least 4.3
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Xperia L will get 4.3 if Xperia M gets the update..
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saurabh007 said:
Xperia L will get 4.3 if Xperia M gets the update..
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But I'm fearing Sony for not updating our phones, too, because our phones' key selling point are camera experiences, take for example, xperia play, all 2011 xperia's are getting ics, but even xperia mini getting ics, sony said ics will slow their phones and also even for gaming, so I fear that our phones are for camera, so they will not give us the update
Hope I'm wrong
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AlvinZahran98 said:
But I'm fearing Sony for not updating our phones, too, because our phones' key selling point are camera experiences, take for example, xperia play, all 2011 xperia's are getting ics, but even xperia mini getting ics, sony said ics will slow their phones and also even for gaming, so I fear that our phones are for camera, so they will not give us the update
Hope I'm wrong
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Sony has great misconception that our phone is their camera expertise in a smartphone..
Hope they've understood their mistake from response from customers..
Regarding ICS update for 2011 Xperia series.. It is because the heaviness of 4.0 compared to 2.3 Sony said that it will slow down their devices..
4.3 and 4.2 have a very small amount of difference.. And it won't slow down our phone ..
Maybe Sony is thinking of directly updating our phone to Kitkat as there is no major difference between 4.2 and 4.3..
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saurabh007 said:
Sony has great misconception that our phone is their camera expertise in a smartphone..
Hope they've understood their mistake from response from customers..
Regarding ICS update for 2011 Xperia series.. It is because the heaviness of 4.0 compared to 2.3 Sony said that it will slow down their devices..
4.3 and 4.2 have a very small amount of difference.. And it won't slow down our phone ..
Maybe Sony is thinking of directly updating our phone to Kitkat as there is no major difference between 4.2 and 4.3..
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Yeah mine are the same views, about a direct KitKat update.
Its also logical, I will explain......
For Xperia M, this might be a last update! Yeah I am telling right, it is bit more towards the lower end and so like the previous low end phones getting 4.1 as last update, it might see only till Android 4.3.(Although Kitkat is supported by low end devices but Sony will be busy with its large range of products on update list)
And Xperia L on bit towards mid range that makes it sure that atleast 4.4 will be a last update, as the device has been getting just bug fixes to 4.2 from last 5-6 months,
if Sony gives 4.3 it will take time and may(if it does) give 4.4 update late and might cause XL to go out of standard 18 month update window,
so not willing to make XL customers unhappy, they are more likely to update to 4.4 directly.
All this are just assumptions so take with a pinch of salt
P.S - And BTW I have been contacting Sony Developer World devs directly and I showed my concern regarding all this matters and they are surely looking towards solving these issues positively.
Not confirmation but they atleast gave me assurance that they will look into a direct 4.4 update for XL.
Thanks for reading.
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coolhz said:
Yeah mine are the same views, about a direct KitKat update.
Its also logical, I will explain......
For Xperia M, this might be a last update! Yeah I am telling right, it is bit more towards the lower end and so like the previous low end phones getting 4.1 as last update, it might see only till Android 4.3.(Although Kitkat is supported by low end devices but Sony will be busy with its large range of products on update list)
And Xperia L on bit towards mid range that makes it sure that atleast 4.4 will be a last update, as the device has been getting just bug fixes to 4.2 from last 5-6 months,
if Sony gives 4.3 it will take time and may(if it does) give 4.4 update late and might cause XL to go out of standard 18 month update window,
so not willing to make XL customers unhappy, they are more likely to update to 4.4 directly.
All this are just assumptions so take with a pinch of salt
P.S - And BTW I have been contacting Sony Developer World devs directly and I showed my concern regarding all this matters and they are surely looking towards solving these issues positively.
Not confirmation but they atleast gave me assurance that they will look into a direct 4.4 update for XL.
Thanks for reading.
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That is kind of logical explanation.. :good:

My Thoughts on XPERIA L updates

Hello Guys, Many of us complian about we dont know any Informations yet about an Android 4.3 update.
Today i looked on PTCRB (still nothing new) ,but i looked up the PTCRB page about the XPERIA U (predecessor of the XPERIA L). And it got tons of Certified updates (Most of them are Minor Updates but there are two Major Updates listed) , so i think we should get more than these 6 Updates :angel:
I Have attached an Image about the 2 PTCRB Pages
What do you think about my thoughts let me know !
-sorry for my english

XperiaAwesome2000 said:
Hello Guys, Many of us complian about we dont know any Informations yet about an Android 4.3 update.
Today i looked on PTCRB (still nothing new) ,but i looked up the PTCRB page about the XPERIA U (predecessor of the XPERIA L). And it got tons of Certified updates (Most of them are Minor Updates but there are two Major Updates listed) , so i think we should get more than these 6 Updates :angel:
I Have attached an Image about the 2 PTCRB Pages
What do you think about my thoughts let me know !
-sorry for my english
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The updates are pretty poor and communication from Sony is awful. Why they choose to update Xperia M (underspec'd compared to the L) is beyond me. But then again, they released 4.4 ASOP for L. Maybe if they release a fully functional generic 4.4 ASOP that would heal the wound

honglong said:
The updates are pretty poor and communication from Sony is awful. Why they choose to update Xperia M (underspec'd compared to the L) is beyond me. But then again, they released 4.4 ASOP for L. Maybe if they release a fully functional generic 4.4 ASOP that would heal the wound
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That i dont Understand too, the Xperia M is in every point a much worser Phone than our XPERIA L , why give Sony it an update , we only have an Buggy vesion of 4.2 .B ut your point sounds interresting, Almost all devices from Sony that had become AOSP (except xperia s), became the Update to the Specific
Version from Sony
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XperiaAwesome2000 said:
That i dont Understand too, the Xperia M is in every point a much worser Phone than our XPERIA L , why give Sony it an update , we only have an Buggy vesion of 4.2 .B ut your point sounds interresting, Almost all devices from Sony that had become AOSP (except xperia s), became the Update to the Specific
Version from Sony
-Sorry for My English
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I would be happy with 4.4 ASOP without any Sony Junk if Sony can't be bothered to release 4.3
It's not great customer service and it means a very good phone won't become updated and I won't buy Sony again. If they plan to update say so, if it's end of life. Say so.
I have a feeling they will do nothing, wait till 18 months support period has expired then drop it.

honglong said:
I would be happy with 4.4 ASOP without any Sony Junk if Sony can't be bothered to release 4.3
It's not great customer service and it means a very good phone won't become updated and I won't buy Sony again. If they plan to update say so, if it's end of life. Say so.
I have a feeling they will do nothing, wait till 18 months support period has expired then drop it.
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Our phone had been added to the AOSP project months ago but only for unlocked bootloaders, and i hope sony will do something and update our because we spent more money on a better phone and we only get 4.2 if we dont get 4.3/4.4 that would be silly

honglong said:
4.4 ASOP for L.
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Could you explain what that is? Is it some official kitkat rom for xperia l?

XperiaAwesome2000 said:
Our phone had been added to the AOSP project months ago but only for unlocked bootloaders, and i hope sony will do something and update our because we spent more money on a better phone and we only get 4.2 if we dont get 4.3/4.4 that would be silly
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Actually I am almost sure for two things:
Sorry won't release anything more for that expensive brick, because it looks for me that there is more hardware issues and maybe lack of drivers from Qualcomm. Also keep in mind crappy cameras (both of them are awful), totally bad touchscreen and most awful brand - they became more "stay away brand" than chinese ZTE and Huawei brands, which these days here are considered as OK here ...
Personally my Xperia L would not survive to the end of warranty - either it will be sold on half of it's price or will be killed - today it flied ~6 times to the floor,because 9 times sound got routed to earpiece instead of speaker.
Generally this Sony are scammers these days and should not be trusted for anything. Btw this was my last product from Sony - they are gone in my blacklist like HP and Nokia.... got very bad experience with these brands and will never come back to them.

id202 said:
Actually I am almost sure for two things:
Sorry won't release anything more for that expensive brick, because it looks for me that there is more hardware issues and maybe lack of drivers from Qualcomm. Also keep in mind crappy cameras (both of them are awful), totally bad touchscreen and most awful brand - they became more "stay away brand" than chinese ZTE and Huawei brands, which these days here are considered as OK here ...
Personally my Xperia L would not survive to the end of warranty - either it will be sold on half of it's price or will be killed - today it flied ~6 times to the floor,because 9 times sound got routed to earpiece instead of speaker.
Generally this Sony are scammers these days and should not be trusted for anything. Btw this was my last product from Sony - they are gone in my blacklist like HP and Nokia.... got very bad experience with these brands and will never come back to them.
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Okay at the Moment i have no issues with the camera and the Touchscreen maybe i have chosen a good modell of the L, but you are right if Sony wouldnt make updates fort this phone they would become a stay away brand and at the moment Sony must work harder on Updates because they have not much money at the time and that is the Problem of Sony they release too much phones and gave no Updates other brands like Samsung gave the S2 4.1 and at this time the s2 was 2 years old and the arc s Sonys Flagship at the Time never saw 4.1
PS I really like Sony they made good and Products but Support on the Phones they make is really bad

I'll explain you some facts!
If you look at xperia U and Xperia L, they both were updated for about a year. The number of updates for xperia U only means, developers were lazy to fix bugs so they had to push more small patches to fix the bugs!
If you still want to question, xperia L has a month left in comparison to xperia U, I'll like you not to overlook x.x.x.17 update which isn't mentioned in the image!
About xperia M got 4.3 and not xperia L, the reason is that xperia M was released few months after xperia L; thus the support for one year meant, it had to be updated till 4.3 but xperia L had completed its one year when the time to update lower end devices came!
If you are wondering, if we would get 4.4 or 4.3 , it is highly UNLIKELY! Don't put your hopes too high!
The reason why source for 4.4 was released, it was only to shut mouth of xperia L owners so it could seem, Sony is working on 4.4 for xperia L and in the mean time, the time frame of one year of update could pass! 4.4 was supposingly in works for xperia L until, Sony decided to ditch it and released buggy 4.4 so it could work on new devices which were released by Sony like M2, T3 etc.
I hope this enlightenment would be enough for you all!

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So the dream is dead. There is no hope for the humanity after all.

Its hopeless waiting for 4.3......i think sony wont even update xperia L...... The best way is to unlock bootloader, root and install a new rom....
M done waiting!!!!!!
Please do hit the 10xxx button!!!

I Think you all are right sony is an A++hole when it comes to updates but a little chance is there and i hope sony is doing something at the moment

Lazynestor said:
Its hopeless waiting for 4.3......i think sony wont even update xperia L...... The best way is to unlock bootloader, root and install a new rom....
M done waiting!!!!!!
Please do hit the 10xxx button!!!
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Will there be unofficial android L for experia L? I am afraid of losing my warranty however.

Lazynestor said:
Its hopeless waiting for 4.3......i think sony wont even update xperia L...... The best way is to unlock bootloader, root and install a new rom....
M done waiting!!!!!!
Please do hit the 10xxx button!!!
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The problem, in my opinion, is that there are tons of people which cannot unlock their bootloader (like me) due to carrier restrictions. We are stuck with stock pretty much forever. And it sucks.

True Story
Emannxx said:
The problem, in my opinion, is that there are tons of people which cannot unlock their bootloader (like me) due to carrier restrictions. We are stuck with stock pretty much forever. And it sucks.
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True ****in story. I spent a ****load of money on this rock and now i cant even flash a custom decent rom, not to talk about the ****tiest stock kernel i've seen in a phone. **** you Sony, **** you carriers and **** you overpriced phones. I bough this for 200 euros and my carrier is asking me 50 more to unlock the carrier status so that i could be able to go to sony and unlock the bootloader. Tell me if this isnt a joke! And remember, its not 250 bucks, its 250 euros, about 340 bucks! WTF???
With this ammount of money i should have bought a nexus 5 and i wouldnt have to care about this problems. never buying a phone in my country again.
Good luck for you guys and i wish the best to all unlocked bootloader. Im seriously thinking about selling my phone if i dont get a proper update.
If sony can afford making phones, they should also be able to give them proper technical support...

Mystery000777 said:
True ****in story. I spent a ****load of money on this rock and now i cant even flash a custom decent rom, not to talk about the ****tiest stock kernel i've seen in a phone. **** you Sony, **** you carriers and **** you overpriced phones. I bough this for 200 euros and my carrier is asking me 50 more to unlock the carrier status so that i could be able to go to sony and unlock the bootloader. Tell me if this isnt a joke! And remember, its not 250 bucks, its 250 euros, about 340 bucks! WTF???
With this ammount of money i should have bought a nexus 5 and i wouldnt have to care about this problems. never buying a phone in my country again.
Good luck for you guys and i wish the best to all unlocked bootloader. Im seriously thinking about selling my phone if i dont get a proper update.
If sony can afford making phones, they should also be able to give them proper technical support...
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Have you contacted Sony and signed the petition?
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Will there be unofficial android L for experia L? I am afraid of losing my warranty however.
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Hell no. We haven't even got 4.3 yet!

BDW there roms for looked bootloader!!
Please do hit the 10xxx button!!!

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BDW there roms for looked bootloader!!
Please do hit the 10xxx button!!!
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Yeha but they all are based on Stock and Stock is not that good
I dont say the roms based on Stock are bad but the Stock 4.2.2 is too buggy

Today's answer from Sorry mobile Bulgaria
Boys and girls (of course!)
Today I have contacted Sorry mobile Bulgaria regarding bug fixing update (I did not pretend for 4.3 or 4.4 - just a bug fixing update, whatever version of Android they want to release) and there was short answer - There is no known date from Sony mobile for update of Xperia L, and there is no known update to come. Rest of message was their usual "Sorry for you troubles, please repair via SUS" and other blah-blah stuff.
Whole Question and answer is in txt file in attachment. If you want to know whole question and answer - feel free to use Google/Bing translate services from Bulgarian....

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Okay at the Moment i have no issues with the camera and the Touchscreen maybe i have chosen a good modell of the L, but you are right if Sony wouldnt make updates fort this phone they would become a stay away brand and at the moment Sony must work harder on Updates because they have not much money at the time and that is the Problem of Sony they release too much phones and gave no Updates other brands like Samsung gave the S2 4.1 and at this time the s2 was 2 years old and the arc s Sonys Flagship at the Time never saw 4.1
PS I really like Sony they made good and Products but Support on the Phones they make is really bad
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If they produce 3 phones in year and focus on their support for a longer time than release date + 3 months, probably they would get more users, respect from them and of course - more profit. With their policy to release bunch of garbage every month, they won't get any new customers and they are already on path to lose their old customers. I am personally one of big count of users which will never come back to SoRRy - there is simple explanation: New Xperia L on store are sold for 345BGN without contract, Xperia L sold on second hand sites with ~1 year and more warranty left is sold at 180-200BGN. My 4 years old HTC Desire on same second hand sites costs 100-180BGN depending on how it looks. BGN - stands fro New Bulgarian Leva (I am Bulgarian).

Nobody cares about Sony Xperia Xa anymore...?

This phone is stuck in nougat 7.0 and probably won't get oreo cus it can't even get 7.1.
And the phone doesn't have any custom roms
Feels like Sony and the whole dev community just legit hates Sony Xperia Xa

1. This phone sucks.
2. Sony sucks.
3. No sensible person would buy this phone.
4. It's just an expensive piece of sh*t.
5. Sony's support for this phone is DEAD.
6. F*ck Sony, F*ck this phone.
7. Buy a better phone.
8. If you can't, root it and download Substratum Theme Engine.
9. If you can't root it and don't want it, sell it.
10. No, there are no developers that are interested in this piece of sh*t. They have already moved on and bought better phones.

Yeah it's pretty sad for a mid-range phone

"Nobody cares about Sony Xperia Xa anymore"
yet if you look on xperia blog they already released Oreo just today.

The Oreo Update is for XA1 family not for XA family.

w3ttr33noodl3 said:
"Nobody cares about Sony Xperia Xa anymore"
yet if you look on xperia blog they already released Oreo just today.
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Can you send me the link?

KoMaSo said:
The Oreo Update is for XA1 family not for XA family.
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Yeah that's sucks, i think xa and xa ultra deserve at least Oreo update

I'll post this week an improved rom based on 4.70 latest mm for anyone still using the phone... It seems it's working ok...
Sent from the center of the galaxy

The XA is a good phone
There is a lack of advanced developers for Sony MediaTek devices that is true but there is also a lack of developers in general here on xda due to whining users who demand everything and contribute Nothing.
Most Dev's simply move to devices that are OPEN like the Nexus range or even the open sony devices.
The only people who seem to produce good reliable ROM's and are experienced with MediaTek devices is Team M.A.D (MediaTek Android Developers). @DerTeufel1980
See Here. https://github.com/MediatekAndroidDevelopers/information
I have offered to contribute the cost of a XA device but they will probably require a couple more donated devices and a few $$ for beer and pizza to keep them going while they work and the rest of us sleep. :laugh:
They are a little busy just now I think but maybe if we can get enough contributions and sensible people on board they may consider supporting the XA. :fingers-crossed:
I don't think people realise just how much work is required to get a true custom ROM's up and running and then to have people complain and moan over trivial things is very off putting to most potential dev's so if we do get some dev's to take on this device a mature professional attitude needs to adopted and enforced by us all.
Regards
bigrammy.

yeah, but this phone isn't really worth the time to develop a rom... Sony fooled me to buy it... The battery is too small and this mediatek cpu is a power hungry processor. 4h sot of only browsing on wifi is crap and before tinkering with the kernel i could not run waze on the phone because it got burning hot... It's a really crap phone...
Sent from the center of the galaxy

cojocar.andrei said:
yeah, but this phone isn't really worth the time to develop a rom... Sony fooled me to buy it... The battery is too small and this mediatek cpu is a power hungry processor. 4h sot of only browsing on wifi is crap and before tinkering with the kernel i could not run waze on the phone because it got burning hot... It's a really crap phone...
Sent from the center of the galaxy
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Very helpful