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[Q] General Xoom Root Questions

Greetings to all Xoom users!
I'm a happy Xoom Wifi user (HWI69) with some basic root questions.
- If I unlock and root my Xoom will I be able to unroot and relock my xoom since the official motorola files are out?
- If I follow the procedure to unlock and root the xoom will I lose all the apps/configuration that I have customized?
- Is there a way to make a full backup without rooting?
- Is there anyway to use the sdcard slot without rooting the xoom?
- Any news on a motorola update that will activate the sdcard slot?
- I saw quite a lot of users who have bricked their wifi xoom trying to root the beast. Since the official motorola wifi files are available is it guaranty that I will be able to unbrick my xoom if something goes wrong?
- Is there a difference between soft brick and hard brick?
I think that's all for the moment
Thanks for your help!

spirouzbe said:
Greetings to all Xoom users!
I'm a happy Xoom Wifi user (HWI69) with some basic root questions.
- If I unlock and root my Xoom will I be able to unroot and relock my xoom since the official motorola files are out?
Possibly
- If I follow the procedure to unlock and root the xoom will I lose all the apps/configuration that I have customized?
If you don't back them up .... Yes
- Is there a way to make a full backup without rooting?
Yes and No
- Is there anyway to use the sdcard slot without rooting the xoom?
Not currently
- Any news on a motorola update that will activate the sdcard slot?
No Answer
- I saw quite a lot of users who have bricked their wifi xoom trying to root the beast. Since the official motorola wifi files are available is it guaranty that I will be able to unbrick my xoom if something goes wrong?
No Answer
- Is there a difference between soft brick and hard brick?
I would think Yes
I think that's all for the moment
Thanks for your help!
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That was my .02 but more detailed information is available in the forum.

spirouzbe said:
- I saw quite a lot of users who have bricked their wifi xoom trying to root the beast. Since the official motorola wifi files are available is it guaranty that I will be able to unbrick my xoom if something goes wrong?
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They have had problems only because they attempted to relock without flashing the official Motorola images first; Motorola did not have these available for download until very recently. So long as you don't try and relock without the correct images on the device first, you should be fine.

Land Master said:
That was my .02 but more detailed information is available in the forum.
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Thanks for the answers ! I have read about all the posts on the Xoom section and i asked those questions because im kind of confused as the informations found are quite different depending on the model/date of the posts.
Some more questions
- For the unrooted backup do you have any app suggestions ?
- What is the purpose of ClockWorkMod Recovery ? Will it protect me from flashing the wrong xoom files (boot ?) ? Kind of a HardSPL/USPL we use with the HTC custom roms ?
ydaraishy said:
They have had problems only because they attempted to relock without flashing the official Motorola images first; Motorola did not have these available for download until very recently. So long as you don't try and relock without the correct images on the device first, you should be fine.
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So now that we have those correct motorola images we are able to relock the Wifi Xoom without any problem ?
Thanks again for all your help

spirouzbe said:
So now that we have those correct motorola images we are able to relock the Wifi Xoom without any problem ?
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If you do it properly, I don't see why not.

I use My Backup Pro. It's not free but its pretty good. Actually haven't tried it yet on the Zoom but it works fine on my EVO. For rooted users Titanium Backup is good.
The custom recovery will be the foundation of "easy" upgrades to new Rom's, kernels, etc. through flash-able files. Without it you would be required to use ADB to "push" everything to the device. It is also the best backup solution to insure a "complete" backup of your entire system through the Nandroid backup feature. This feature is currently experiencing issues because it is trying to backup the entire "internal" storage to an "external SD card". Since the card is formatted as Fat32 the largest file it can hold is 4GB. This poses a problem because the "internal" drive could have "partitions" larger than 4GB if you have a lot of media on your device. Its still a work in progress. As far as if it "protects" you.....probably not. You need to be sure of what you are doing before using the features.
Regarding the re-lock.... A few users have posted that they were able to re-lock their device but I do not believe anyone has posted as to whether doing so erases any indication that the device was originally un-locked. If you plan on keeping your Xoom for the long haul, I would recommend un-locking and leaving it alone. If for some reason you need to return it for service...THEN worry about re-locking it and dealing any potential pit falls doing so may uncover.

Land Master said:
I use My Backup Pro. It's not free but its pretty good. Actually haven't tried it yet on the Zoom but it works fine on my EVO. For rooted users Titanium Backup is good.
The custom recovery will be the foundation of "easy" upgrades to new Rom's, kernels, etc. through flash-able files. Without it you would be required to use ADB to "push" everything to the device. It is also the best backup solution to insure a "complete" backup of your entire system through the Nandroid backup feature. This feature is currently experiencing issues because it is trying to backup the entire "internal" storage to an "external SD card". Since the card is formatted as Fat32 the largest file it can hold is 4GB. This poses a problem because the "internal" drive could have "partitions" larger than 4GB if you have a lot of media on your device. Its still a work in progress. As far as if it "protects" you.....probably not. You need to be sure of what you are doing before using the features.
Regarding the re-lock.... A few users have posted that they were able to re-lock their device but I do not believe anyone has posted as to whether doing so erases any indication that the device was originally un-locked. If you plan on keeping your Xoom for the long haul, I would recommend un-locking and leaving it alone. If for some reason you need to return it for service...THEN worry about re-locking it and dealing any potential pit falls doing so may uncover.
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Excellent advice. Thank you Land Master.
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[Q] Question about root-injected ROMs

Little backstory: A friend of mine had just recently bought a Razr Maxx HD on craigslist. The individual who sold him the phone had the phone rooted. My friend didn't want the phone rooted, and specifically asked the individual to unroot it. We used the application root checker to check if the phone was still rooted and it said the phone wasn't. My friend restored the phone to factory settings and it still had the superuser application installed. Now, I personally have rooted phones before and if I have all my information correct the process to root a phone requires you to over-write the factory/stock ROM and replacing it with a root-injected ROM. My friend wishes to have his phone completely stock. The kernel seems to be the right factory/stock one, but he and I are still concerned that it is still rooted. Although there's really no harm to rooting, he wishes to get the complete stock ROM on his device. Now, the question lol. Is there any danger to keeping the root-injected ROM on his device? Could we use ODIN to put the official stock ROM back on the device? Should he not even worry that his current ROM is root-injected?

Manevolence said:
Little backstory: A friend of mine had just recently bought a Razr Maxx HD on craigslist. The individual who sold him the phone had the phone rooted. My friend didn't want the phone rooted, and specifically asked the individual to unroot it. We used the application root checker to check if the phone was still rooted and it said the phone wasn't. My friend restored the phone to factory settings and it still had the superuser application installed. Now, I personally have rooted phones before and if I have all my information correct the process to root a phone requires you to over-write the factory/stock ROM and replacing it with a root-injected ROM. My friend wishes to have his phone completely stock. The kernel seems to be the right factory/stock one, but he and I are still concerned that it is still rooted. Although there's really no harm to rooting, he wishes to get the complete stock ROM on his device. Now, the question lol. Is there any danger to keeping the root-injected ROM on his device? Could we use ODIN to put the official stock ROM back on the device? Should he not even worry that his current ROM is root-injected?
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Huh. Root is just access to system level commands, and usually some exploit within the stock rom is used to install and run SU/superuser. If it has wireless provider branding (boot screen says Verizon, for example) it's a stock rom... and you're fine, just delete the SU app if it bothers you.

EdwardN said:
Huh. Root is just access to system level commands, and usually some exploit within the stock rom is used to install and run SU/superuser. If it has wireless provider branding (boot screen says Verizon, for example) it's a stock rom... and you're fine, just delete the SU app if it bothers you.
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Hey, Guys - Thanks for the help..
I reboot the phone and it says droid but nothing about verizon. I am not sure if the Razr Maxx HD normally says verizon but my girlfriend has the phone and i will try it on hers to see if the rom is stock.
The problem is i am worried there are other things in this rom that are not the norm. It will not let you uninstall superuser at all. If you google superuser and you read about the app it does say in the App info that if the Rom you install has superuser in System/Apps then it cant be removed which is whats scaring me.
I really want the phone back to 100% factory stock as i bought this second hand and I cant take chances with anything weird in the OS.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Craig

theatermax said:
Hey, Guys - Thanks for the help..
I reboot the phone and it says droid but nothing about verizon. I am not sure if the Razr Maxx HD normally says verizon but my girlfriend has the phone and i will try it on hers to see if the rom is stock.
The problem is i am worried there are other things in this rom that are not the norm. It will not let you uninstall superuser at all. If you google superuser and you read about the app it does say in the App info that if the Rom you install has superuser in System/Apps then it cant be removed which is whats scaring me.
I really want the phone back to 100% factory stock as i bought this second hand and I cant take chances with anything weird in the OS.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Craig
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The surest, easiest way to make sure it is stock is to reflash the phone using the Droid Razr HD Utility Tool, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1970267. It will put the factory firmware back on the phone. Afterwards, there will be 2 OTA updates to install. The first one is an incremental bug fix update. The second is the JB update.
EDIT: The normal boot screen is the Motorola logo followed by the Droid animation.

Can't root Motorola Droid Ultra

Hey guys,
Recently I tried to root my Motorola Droid Ultra using MotoRoot and the way it works is that you download it from xda dev. and side load the apk onto your phone. You then run the setup inside the app and then the phone is rooted. I am very familiar with the rooting process but the thing is whenever I try to install moto root it says application not installed and I have checked and made sure that I can install apps from unknown sources and sure enough I can. I tried installing the apk through ADB too but it still gives me the same message it says application not installed. I have even turned off verify apps but it still doesn't work I have also enabled developer options but still not budging same message every time. What am I doing wrong??? I need help.
Helpful info: This phone was purchased in Early December 2013 so it's pretty new but what happened was when I got the handset I tried to root it but it gave me the same message then 1 day later after I bought it the phone randomly shuts off and I can't even get into the bootloader or go into recovery so it was basically dead and there was nothing I could do about it so I went back to Verizon 2 days after I bought the original handset and they replace it with another droid ultra and everything works fine but I still can't root it :crying:

droidusr2014 said:
Hey guys,
Recently I tried to root my Motorola Droid Ultra using MotoRoot and the way it works is that you download it from xda dev. and side load the apk onto your phone. You then run the setup inside the app and then the phone is rooted. I am very familiar with the rooting process but the thing is whenever I try to install moto root it says application not installed and I have checked and made sure that I can install apps from unknown sources and sure enough I can. I tried installing the apk through ADB too but it still gives me the same message it says application not installed. I have even turned off verify apps but it still doesn't work I have also enabled developer options but still not budging same message every time. What am I doing wrong??? I need help.
Helpful info: This phone was purchased in Early December 2013 so it's pretty new but what happened was when I got the handset I tried to root it but it gave me the same message then 1 day later after I bought it the phone randomly shuts off and I can't even get into the bootloader or go into recovery so it was basically dead and there was nothing I could do about it so I went back to Verizon 2 days after I bought the original handset and they replace it with another droid ultra and everything works fine but I still can't root it :crying:
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I'm having the same problem. I messaged jcase about it to see if he maybe had any answers as to how to fix these issues such as the failure to install or did not download messages. The was a quick and easy one as well that I had mentioned in the message. The response I got was useless. He told me he was **** with windows and easy guides so I should wait till someone makes a windows version of the hack so that I can download it and root... I have games and stuff that I want to hack and bloat I want to get rid of.. Now I'm being told that I need to wait on a windows version of the rooting system to be made so that I can do all this... Why hasn't anyone done this yet? Idk mang but I have the same problem as you and no one is making our lives easier. Hopefully someone else reads this and respond with something that is of help. Post here if you find any solutions and I'll do the same.

Are you on 4.2.2? If so, the only way to root at the moment is to follow the pwnmymoto steps 100% PERFECTLY. And when you say you tried using ADB do you mean you tried to push the files(pwnmymoto.jar + su) to your sd using ADB and then use telnet and all that fun crap? This link: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2444954
Anyways, but if your phone's version is less than 4.2.2 I believe the app should install as a normal one would.
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Rooting with RockMyMoto
I have a Droid Mini with 4.2.2 (Camera Update 12.5.5.) and rooted it with RockMyMoto (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2509590). It worked without problems.

Thanks
Hatary said:
I have a Droid Mini with 4.2.2 (Camera Update 12.5.5.) and rooted it with RockMyMoto (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2509590). It worked without problems.
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I just finished rooting it with RockMyMoto without a problem I didn't think that RockMyMoto was for the droid ultra I thought it was only for the MOTO X

Can't Root my Ultra w either
I tried using both apps to root my droid ultra and they both are saying not installed. I'm running android 4.4 help me somebody please in rooting my phone [email protected] hotmail.com

shortcakestacy24 said:
I tried using both apps to root my droid ultra and they both are saying not installed. I'm running android 4.4 help me somebody please in rooting my phone [email protected] hotmail.com
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No root method available if you're already on 4.4. Sorry
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shortcakestacy24 said:
I'm running android 4.4
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Don't attempt to root a phone until you've read the instructions completely. Things go easier if you read the entire thread, even if it takes a while.
Of course, it's important to read the beginning of the thread... like the first post, which says you must be on 4.2.2 (the camera update).

root.verizon motorola xt1080 4.4.4 without pc?
Is there any way to root my verizon motorola droid ultra xt1080 4.4.4 without a pc? I have tried at least 15 different applications that all claim to be able to unlock or root my phone but none were succedsful. The motoroot app tries to install but that doesnt seem to work either. Help help. These google play game notifications are pissing me off. Ive already cleared all of my apps to factory restore and changed all of settings with google and such. What can i do to unlock, jailbreak and/or root my damn phone? Sorry for the language. Im just frustrated

erotica13 said:
Is there any way to root my verizon motorola droid ultra xt1080 4.4.4 without a pc? I have tried at least 15 different applications that all claim to be able to unlock or root my phone but none were succedsful. The motoroot app tries to install but that doesnt seem to work either. Help help. These google play game notifications are pissing me off. Ive already cleared all of my apps to factory restore and changed all of settings with google and such. What can i do to unlock, jailbreak and/or root my damn phone? Sorry for the language. Im just frustrated
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Sorry, but unless it's a dev edition there is no known root method for 4.4.4 with or without a pc.

I could rootear my phone droid xt1080 verison with the program kingroot using PC version only for a few minutes. but I served to remove very persistent malwares. I would love to unlock the bootloader to switch to cyanogenmod but it seems impossible. probe by many means. sorry for my bad English.

same... is there any other method to permanent root

[Q] Root a Droid Razr Maxx HD

I found the thread on confirmed Root for 9.30.1 of my Razr Maxx HD. Ive never done a root on android before. Is there a sticky or a thd detailinig how to do it on the new system? I want to make sure I download the correct files and install the correct apps before I start so I dont brick my phone. From what I read I can also install a ROM using safestrap? Where do I get these ROMS? I believe I read one was called Blurry? When KitKat comes out will it automaticaly upgrade my phone or do I have the option of not installing that version? Dont want to loose my root and never get it back. Thanx for any help havent installed a rom on a phone since window phones were popular.:fingers-crossed:

chad740 said:
I found the thread on confirmed Root for 9.30.1 of my Razr Maxx HD. Ive never done a root on android before. Is there a sticky or a thd detailinig how to do it on the new system? I want to make sure I download the correct files and install the correct apps before I start so I dont brick my phone. From what I read I can also install a ROM using safestrap? Where do I get these ROMS? I believe I read one was called Blurry? When KitKat comes out will it automaticaly upgrade my phone or do I have the option of not installing that version? Dont want to loose my root and never get it back. Thanx for any help havent installed a rom on a phone since window phones were popular.:fingers-crossed:
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BlurUpdater-vzw.apk is what you want to freeze or rename to .bak.
Here is good advice
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49729015#post49729015

Trying to root Kyocera Hydro Wave model C6740N

Title pretty much says it all. I've tried countless one click root programs with no progress whatsoever. I've spent hours searching and nothing comes up for this phone. Does anyone know a way to root this thing??

Garrett162 said:
Title pretty much says it all. I've tried countless one click root programs with no progress whatsoever. I've spent hours searching and nothing comes up for this phone. Does anyone know a way to root this thing??
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same here, a guy who works for kyocera told me that this model cant be put into recovery mode. Any help appreciated

I'm joining the request. As stated above, I've combed the web for anything on it with no success. Is this because of the fairly new release? Or possibly the trouble they're in because of Microsoft?
Either way I feel there should be an exploit out for it by now...

I too am looking fir an exploit for this device, and have scoured Google, Bing, and Yahoo, only to find nothing.

pharos23 said:
same here, a guy who works for kyocera told me that this model cant be put into recovery mode. Any help appreciated
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This model (Hydro Wave C6740N) CAN be put into Recovery Mode, using ADB.
Since Windows (edit: XP) USB drivers for the C6740N Wave are not released by Kyocera (yet), you (edit: can) use a Linux or OS X machine to connect using USB, to use ADB on the C6740N. (Since USB connection to C6740N "just works" on those platforms.)
I have used ADB on a Macbook running OS X to reboot my Hydro Wave into Recovery Mode, and performed cache wipe successfully. Also performed backups using ADB.
Kyocera advised (via email) that the Wave can be put into Recovery using Volume Down + Power key combo. Not true, the key combo does not work.
Kyocera also advised (via chat) that the Windows USB driver for any Hydro family device will work for the Wave. Also not true (I tried it). (Edit: I tried the drivers with Windows XP. It looks like the Kyocera Windows USB drivers may simply be USB modem drivers only, on any case.)
OS X or Linux using ADB is the ticket, no USB driver necessary. (Edit: But see other posts about using Windows 10 too.)
I'm also keenly interested in rooting the C6740N, but an absolute noob. The C6740N has a lot going for it, but a few shortcomings that root would enable resolving. If anyone knows of a way to root it, we would be most grateful to hear about it.

Tried about everything else too and nothing works

There's a working driver in Windows 10, but KingoRoot still fails. I almost tried King Root, but it's all in Chinese. I was going to try Framaroot but gave up when the download link resulted in an endless survey loop to win a free $100 Visa card (yeah....... GO F**K YOURSELF). I really want to root this thing. MetroPCS has this thing loaded full of bloatware and the Google BS I never use (google+ MUST DIE) is just eating storage space and what tiny bit of RAM is left. It's a nice phone but the inability to overclock the CPU, delete bloatware, and turn my 4GB SD Card into RAM really leaves alot to be desired.

The phone can be put into recovery using adb on windows.but that's as far as that goes.Cant find any way to root.Hope we get one soon.

So I think we should make a list of what root methods that did not work. That way we wont get hassled of what does not work

Kingo Root: FAIL
Towelroot: FAIL
Framaroot: UNKNOWN
King Root: UNKNOWN (Can't read Chinese)

Could you use a kill file that would reset all data including disabling some things

Root genius fails
King root fails
Kingoroot fails
Iroot fails
Framaroot fails
Towelroot fails
I'm thinking you gotta unlock the boot loader , but I can't put into fast boot mode or boot onto the boot loader for any adb fastboot commands to work. I can get to recovery in adb , and in the recovery menu I select boot to boot loader but it boots normally. I really want to root this thing!!

I just noticed that they're are any way to root the latest lolipop unless your on 5.0.2 ( BTW I checked kingroot and checked the request of our device and its almost to 1000

Subbing 'cuz I just got it and want it rooted. How do I request it from Kingroot?

pissinguoff247 said:
Subbing 'cuz I just got it and want it rooted. How do I request it from Kingroot?
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Just download their app open it try to root after its done it will say submit press it . Or you can go to their website and try to send them an email?

I rooted my phone it does work
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jonmyob said:
I rooted my phone it does work
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What how?

xdamember143 said:
What how?
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If he rooted the phone he sent the reply from, he's unfortunately in the wrong thread. The C6530N is the Hydro Life. We're trying to root the C6740N which is the Hydro Wave. Thanks for getting our hopes up.
On the other hand, if he's using the Hydro Life to post in the forum but has successfully rooted the Hydro Wave, we would all love to know just how you did it. My Hydro Wave is running worse than an Alcatel Evolve on the stock setup. We need root badly.

Speaking of root exploits such as Framaroot, see
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/0...droid_users_creates_hijackable_global_botnet/
Which links to the original exposé:
https://www.fireeye.com/blog/threat-research/2015/09/guaranteed_clicksm.html
...which notes that this Android botnet malware uses Framaroot and other root exploits. I wonder if some of these Chinese root exploit tools themselves (Framaroot, Kingoroot, etc.) carry a hidden malware payload.
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Hi I've tried everything also but I also tried this program for tablets called zuse toolkit & it seems to get something through cause it reboots & optimizes or upgrade apps I'm not too sure which one but if someone out there knows how to modifie the way this zuse toolkit roots then maybe we have a chance of rooting this new phone oh & after it optimizes or upgrades the apps I check for root permissions and it still says it does not have root permissions so yea...