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http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/10/samsung-brings-out-galaxy-s-iii-developer-edition-for-verizon/
Q&A
Who is this for?
Samsung and Verizon Wireless recognize that there are many enthusiasts and professional developers that are interested in customizing their device with third-party ROM software. Unlocking the bootloader can put the stability of the phone in jeopardy; therefore, only experienced developers should attempt to unlock the bootloader.
What about the other carriers?
Other versions of the Galaxy S III are sold with a user-unlockable bootloader as a standard feature. Those models are available directly from the respective carriers.
Where can I buy the Galaxy S III Developer Edition?
The Developer Edition will be sold online directly from Samsung. When the device is available for purchase, it will be sold through the Samsung developer portal at developer.samsung.com
Why is Verizon Wireless' version locked?
Depending on the device, an open boot loader could prevent Verizon Wireless from providing the same level of customer experience and support because it would allow users to change the phone or otherwise modify the software and, potentially, negatively impact how the phone connects with the network. The addition of unapproved software could also negatively impact the wireless experience for other customers. Unlocking the device also voids the warranty.
Has Samsung always unlocked the bootloader on its phones?
While not all previous Samsung Android devices have had an easily unlockable bootloader, all of our other current Galaxy S III flagship lineup, and all Nexus-branded devices, support the standard bootloader unlocking procedure.
What happens if I load custom software and damage ("brick") my phone?
Problems caused by your unlocking the bootloader and installing custom software will not be covered by the warranty. Problems with third-party and customized bootloader software can cause irreparable harm to the Galaxy S III. Users interested in performing these actions should proceed with caution and at their own risk. Out of warranty Galaxy S III Developer Edition devices will be serviced directly through Samsung, and service charges will apply.
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Who's up for burning down some Verizon stores?
agreed. an absolute joke!?!?
Does NOT belong in the development forum!
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Normally I'd say it doesn't belong on the development forum, but this is obviously a very hot development-associated topic, and devs and followers are all interested in any updates regarding the bootloader status. This is important because it has implications for devs working to unlock the regular citizen's version--with an unlocked phone to play with, they'll be able to attack from the other side as well.
Boy did they give the the middle finger. So unlocked bootloaders and difrrent roms mess up the system, So they give us a locked bootloader and say its Samsungs falt but then let them sell us a unlocked bootloader phone and say its ok to use on your network. Thats some ****ed up ****
if samsung did this right tho, they would give us the key to unlocking the bootloaders for the verizon phones that have locked ones. leaving us with a $249-$300 phones that have unlocked bootloaders, compared to almost full retail. but that could never happen could it? (;
cadams122593 said:
if samsung did this right tho, they would give us the key to unlocking the bootloaders for the verizon phones that have locked ones. leaving us with a $249-$300 phones that have unlocked bootloaders, compared to almost full retail. but that could never happen could it? (;
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Maybe this is samsungs way of saying f-u verizon lol
Locked
Damn I really feel bad for you guys.
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Locked
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unlocked
yeah, that really sucks. looks to me like jumbo mumbo they are making up to they 'gave a response'
Let them know what you think of their policy with your wallet. I will never be a Verizon customer.
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Any chance devs can take the boot loader from this dev phone and put it on the regular S3?
K.AuthoR said:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/10/samsung-brings-out-galaxy-s-iii-developer-edition-for-verizon/
Who's up for burning down some Verizon stores?
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Please retain from smoking bath salts. That's all I ask.
dreamsti said:
Any chance devs can take the boot loader from this dev phone and put it on the regular S3?
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I suppose that's the million dollar question. If that happens, great. Then everybody sort of comes out happy with their phones.
cadams122593 said:
if samsung did this right tho, they would give us the key to unlocking the bootloaders for the verizon phones that have locked ones. leaving us with a $249-$300 phones that have unlocked bootloaders, compared to almost full retail. but that could never happen could it? (;
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What if Samsung, doesn't have the keys to give us? What if Verizon generated the keys, signed the boot, and then flashed our phones?
I just wanted to say how TROLOLOL this is, I feel bad for you guys on Verizon but I do find it kind of amusing, Verizon pulled this same sh*t with the Droid Razr, that shipped with a Locked BL and what was the answer have Moto offer a no warranty Dev Version...same thing just a diff manufacturer.
I do think its stupid of VZ for locking it down the way they did. But, it is a device thats used on their network, and if thats what they want to do, than so be it.
We all have seen it time and time again, a warranty claim for a bricked phone. We drove them to doing this. And, there will be a developer phone.
I will miss all the flashing I use to do. Even stock, this phone rocks. I dont think they are giving us the finger, I think they looking out for their best interests for the most part.
they should unlock it for us if we ask them and sig somthing saying if we **** it up then were ****ed and have to buy a new one. i have no proubs with that
There is a NEW Knox Free ROOT (like PingPong, but not the same exploit) for T-Mobile 5.1.1 builds. If it works for those ROMS on T-mobile, why cant it work for Sprint if modified? I may hold off on rooting because this could lead to a knox free root for us on 5.1.1 could it not? I know this is specific to T-mobile, but shouldnt the method used be "potentially" applicable to other carriers? If not, educate me and forgive the post.
I realize this uses the ENGINEERING bootloader (like a dev bootloader) that was leaked from T-mobile. We do not have this for Sprint (or any other carriers I believe). So I suppose the "long shot" here for other carriers to get another knox free Root method like this is us getting a similar leaked internal dev bootloader which can be used. Probably not going to happen anytime soon, if ever....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...root-g925t-g920t-5-1-1-tripping-knox-t3149653
^^^ Within that thread above, here is a post to focus on: http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...pping-knox-t3149653/post61865369#post61865369
And also coverage here:
http://androiding.how/root-t-mobile-s6-and-s6-edge-on-5-1-1-without-tripping-knox-counter/
Root w/o tripping Knox is very important for me as well. I want to play with Samsung Pay when it comes out, (primarily for the gimicky magnetic strip portion.) Also, I'd rather not permanently void my warranty.
So, I like to vent at companies on Twitter and any other social networks if they are not listening to their customers or taking advantage of loyal customers. So last night I started venting to T-Mobile asking about the bootloader and why we haven't heard anything at all. I mean, i'm sure most of us are on JUMP and could jump if we wanted to, but why, theres nothing better out, yet. Anyways to conclude my conversation with the rep, I got a confirmation from the rep saying:
"Good news! T-Mobile is working with Samsung to hopefully unlock bootloader!"
I tried to press for more information, sources etc but did not have any luck. Pretty much the answer I was given was they are limited on what they can see or do as chat reps.
Well, I'll believe it when I see it, but just thought I would share, that there could possibly be a bright light at the end of the tunnel for some of those loyal users. I for one will be jumping as soon as a more improved Android phone comes out, might have to wait till the end of the year though.
A dump truck full of salt and still nothing new.
People need to take their time and understand the underlying situation. Here's a good summary, apologies for reposting again:
mathieulh said:
The CROM lock does not exist on non-Chinese bootloaders
Samsung's Chinese handsets bootloaders have in 3 types of bootloader locks, the carrier lock, the CROM lock (which is enabled if the Chinese bootloader does not find the "KIWIBIRD" string written in the STEADY partition), and the reactivation lock, they are not carrier locked.
U.S. variants only have the Carrier and reactivation locks, there is no CROM lock to unlock on these devices (or any international variants either), U.S. variants are however carrier locked, the lock is hardcoded in the bootloader code (there is just no execution path to load an unsigned kernel on the consumer carrier locked variant bootloaders, there is no "lock" Qfuse anymore, the bootloader itself just has no carrier unlocking/locking support, it is always locked by design) and the bootloader is tied to the device ID, for example SM-G935F (which is One Time Programmable) and will refuse to run on anything but the device id that is hardcoded within it, obviously the bootloader is signed so you can't modify it, there is also a revocation mechanism involving Qfuses to make sure you can't downgrade to a vulnerable version (should one exist).
There are presumably Engineering versions of the bootloader that allow running unsigned kernels but those have not been leaked and they probably won't run on devices for which the production mode Qfuse has been blown (the device is in Engineering mode when that Qfuse is not set).
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Um, no......this was not a repost, this was me sharing information that I gained from TMO. I and most tmo users are not active in XDA anymore because of the locked bootloader, so it's news to some people.
DesignGrits said:
So, I like to vent at companies on Twitter and any other social networks if they are not listening to their customers or taking advantage of loyal customers. So last night I started venting to T-Mobile asking about the bootloader and why we haven't heard anything at all. I mean, i'm sure most of us are on JUMP and could jump if we wanted to, but why, theres nothing better out, yet. Anyways to conclude my conversation with the rep, I got a confirmation from the rep saying:
"Good news! T-Mobile is working with Samsung to hopefully unlock bootloader!"
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Hopefully! keyword. Reps dont know jack. We know more then they know. They are out of loop. This isnt even post worthy lol
DesignGrits said:
Um, no......this was not a repost, this was me sharing information that I gained from TMO. I and most tmo users are not active in XDA anymore because of the locked bootloader, so it's news to some people.
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He was calling his post a repost, not yours.
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Hi Guys! I'm kinda new to the forum. I made an account a while ago, but I never really used it... until now.
Let me just say that you guys helped me out more than once before, but now I need to ask questions to which I haven't been able to get a direct answer to. I dabbled in phone repair (mainly just rooted a few androids). I'm still a novice, but I'd like to start getting work experience. I'd like to start my own business unlocking, repairing, and eventually, creating custom ROMS for all phone models. But I'm still not 100% clear on a few things.
Is it at all possible to unlock android phones by flashing an international ROM? For example, let's say I have an Samsung Gakaxy S7, model SM- G930V (Locked to Verizon), could I, in any way, flash a 930F ROM (oran international variant of the 930F) onto that phone to unlock it? If not, what methods are available to me? Besides the obvious "contact your carrier and have them do it". There are a few sites such as
unlockauthority
unlockradar
That claim to be able to unlock your phone, but how do they do it? Are these sites even legit? I've heard of a few programs, such as Chimera Tools, that claim to be able to do the same thing, but the questions remain the same: are they legit, and if so, how to they do it? Can I learn to do it myself? If so, how? If not, why?
The same applies to iPhones, which I hear require iCloud to unlock. If I have an iPhone X, locked to AT&T or T-Mobile, can I just log in to iCloud and unlock it from there in just a few clicks for free?
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This guy claims to be able to unlock "any" iPhone by just inputting a few codes. I question the legitimacy of this, of course, but I don't have access to a locked iPhone to verify.
Again, I'd like to start a business. Most people are looking to unlock their phones, so that would be my focus.
If anyone can help me, if even a little, I'd be very grateful.
And of course, once I learn more about mobile devices, I'll be able to help you
mashtr said:
Hi Guys! I'm kinda new to the forum. I made an account a while ago, but I never really used it... until now.
Let me just say that you guys helped me out more than once before, but now I need to ask questions to which I haven't been able to get a direct answer to. I dabbled in phone repair (mainly just rooted a few androids). I'm still a novice, but I'd like to start getting work experience. I'd like to start my own business unlocking, repairing, and eventually, creating custom ROMS for all phone models. But I'm still not 100% clear on a few things.
Is it at all possible to unlock android phones by flashing an international ROM? For example, let's say I have an Samsung Gakaxy S7, model SM- G930V (Locked to Verizon), could I, in any way, flash a 930F ROM (oran international variant of the 930F) onto that phone to unlock it? If not, what methods are available to me? Besides the obvious "contact your carrier and have them do it". There are a few sites such as
unlockauthority
unlockradar
That claim to be able to unlock your phone, but how do they do it? Are these sites even legit? I've heard of a few programs, such as Chimera Tools, that claim to be able to do the same thing, but the questions remain the same: are they legit, and if so, how to they do it? Can I learn to do it myself? If so, how? If not, why?
The same applies to iPhones, which I hear require iCloud to unlock. If I have an iPhone X, locked to AT&T or T-Mobile, can I just log in to iCloud and unlock it from there in just a few clicks for free?
watch?v=LsEJwX7BVcc
This guy claims to be able to unlock "any" iPhone by just inputting a few codes. I question the legitimacy of this, of course, but I don't have access to a locked iPhone to verify.
Again, I'd like to start a business. Most people are looking to unlock their phones, so that would be my focus.
If anyone can help me, if even a little, I'd be very grateful.
And of course, once I learn more about mobile devices, I'll be able to help you
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mashtr said:
Hi Guys! I'm kinda new to the forum. I made an account a while ago, but I never really used it... until now.
Let me just say that you guys helped me out more than once before, but now I need to ask questions to which I haven't been able to get a direct answer to. I dabbled in phone repair (mainly just rooted a few androids). I'm still a novice, but I'd like to start getting work experience. I'd like to start my own business unlocking, repairing, and eventually, creating custom ROMS for all phone models. But I'm still not 100% clear on a few things.
Is it at all possible to unlock android phones by flashing an international ROM? For example, let's say I have an Samsung Gakaxy S7, model SM- G930V (Locked to Verizon), could I, in any way, flash a 930F ROM (oran international variant of the 930F) onto that phone to unlock it? If not, what methods are available to me? Besides the obvious "contact your carrier and have them do it". There are a few sites such as
unlockauthority
unlockradar
That claim to be able to unlock your phone, but how do they do it? Are these sites even legit? I've heard of a few programs, such as Chimera Tools, that claim to be able to do the same thing, but the questions remain the same: are they legit, and if so, how to they do it? Can I learn to do it myself? If so, how? If not, why?
The same applies to iPhones, which I hear require iCloud to unlock. If I have an iPhone X, locked to AT&T or T-Mobile, can I just log in to iCloud and unlock it from there in just a few clicks for free?
watch?v=LsEJwX7BVcc
This guy claims to be able to unlock "any" iPhone by just inputting a few codes. I question the legitimacy of this, of course, but I don't have access to a locked iPhone to verify.
Again, I'd like to start a business. Most people are looking to unlock their phones, so that would be my focus.
If anyone can help me, if even a little, I'd be very grateful.
And of course, once I learn more about mobile devices, I'll be able to help you
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Generally speaking, you can't use firmware from one model on a different model, especially when it comes to any kind of Verizon device, that leads to a bricked device. There are cases where you can flash a firmware from a different model number, but those are rare cases and the devices are virtually identical hardware/software(bootloader).
If you're trying to unlock bootloader on any kind of Verizon Samsung device with 4.4 Kiit Kat or newer android, you can give up on that idea, you'll never make it happen, many, many, many people have tried, there is no way to do it. Verizon/Samsung has that locked down tight.
When it comes to unlocking phones, there is no general way of doing so. That is case by case and model number by model number. Not all phones can be unlocked and the ones that can be unlocked use different methods. You'll have to find the method for each specific model number.
We can't help in the iPhone department, this is an android development site, it doesn't deal with iPhone at all, not in any shape, form or fashion. You'll have to go somewhere else with that.
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Droidriven said:
Generally speaking, you can't use firmware from one model on a different model, especially when it comes to any kind of Verizon device, that leads to a bricked device. There are cases where you can flash a firmware from a different model number, but those are rare cases and the devices are virtually identical hardware/software(bootloader).
If you're trying to unlock bootloader on any kind of Verizon Samsung device with 4.4 Kiit Kat or newer android, you can give up on that idea, you'll never make it happen, many, many, many people have tried, there is no way to do it. Verizon/Samsung has that locked down tight.
When it comes to unlocking phones, there is no general way of doing so. That is case by case and model number by model number. Not all phones can be unlocked and the ones that can be unlocked use different methods. You'll have to find the method for each specific model number.
We can't help in the iPhone department, this is an android development site, it doesn't deal with iPhone at all, not in any shape, form or fashion. You'll have to go somewhere else with that.
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Thank you very much for your input! I'd like to keep this thread open, in case anyone else has something to share.
I really appreciate your help. From what I understand, unlocking Androids can only "safely" be done by contacting the appropriate carrier, or finding a specific method for each phone model.
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I'd like to talk here if you don't mind. Private message me if you want to speak privately.
Hi, guys - I've been a OnePlus fan since they first started selling phones, but stopped at the OP7P. IN the past, I rooted my phones as soon as they came out of the box.
I decided to switch back to Samsung after all these years. I live in the US, and purchased a new global SM-S908E-D/S so that I could continue having a rooted phone.
I was going to try out my global S22 Ultra for a week or so before rooting to make sure that I have good coverage for my connection to AT&T. I saw that the global S22 Ultra has many of the AT&T 4G/5G bands that the US version supports, but there are differences. If I don't have good coverage due to the channel differences, I will look into returning the phone.
So, I have a few quick questions:
I know that I will lose all my data once I unlock the bootloader, but can I configure my phone normally and take all Samsung updates before unlocking the bootloader and rooting the phone? On my previous Samsung devices, bootloader unlocking/rooting was patched/blocked by Samsung, so there was a limited opportunity to unlock the bootloader/root.
If I unlock the bootloader, is there a way to relock the bootloader so that it isn't visible that the phone was previously unlocked? I know the Samsung Knox aimed to always fail a security check if the bootloader was ever unlocked.
Is there a way to configure my global S22 Ultra to support all the US AT&T 4G/5G bands instead of a partial list?
Thanks!
¿GJ?
I know the feeling of coming back to a Samsung after experimenting with the open world,
1. Question isn't really clear - As I understood; Yes - You can use the phone, get OTA and configure until you decide to unlock it. Unlocking the bootloader will wipe all data.
2. You can relock the bootloader - but traces will always remain as Knox is a one way ticket. Once broken, Knox can never be sent back to 0x0. Even after relocking, Samsung Apps such as Health and Pay will not work.
3. So far, No confirmed method.
Thanks, @JazonX - That's what I was looking for.
The question for #1 was revolving around how in the earlier days of rooting, it was a cat & mouse chase to stay ahead of the manufacturers with rooting. Some devices I have owned (Amazon FireTV sticks, and my Samsung S4 Tablet, for example) would be rootable for a short period of time, where if you didn't unlock the bootloader and root immediately, you would get an update from Samsung that patched the hole and it was never rootable afterwards.
I was asking if the SM-S908E-D/S would always be rootable (maybe because of the EU?), so that I could use the phone as a normal device, accept all the Samsung updates, and not be concerned that a Samsung update would come along that permanently blocked the bootloader and rooting.
I could decide in a few weeks that the phone was good on AT&T, and then be able to root it at that point.
Unlocking the bootloader doesn't trip Knox. Rooting does.
There are a few "patched" Knox apps that you can use, shealth, private share and secure folder. These are included with beyondrom and Dr ketans rom.
@MRDOCA - Thanks, that's good to know.
I unlocked my bootloader, and I am attempting my first manual Firmware update (not rooting at this time).
I downloaded and ran Frija, which asks for my CSC. Looking into my phone's Software settings, I see that my CSC is CHO/CHO,CHO/CHO/CHO - Which appears to be in Chile. Even though I am in the US on the AT&T network, I'm assuming that I just use the CHO CSC in Frija and my phone will re-adapt to the AT&T network after my update?