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Looks like this is going to be a larger issue than I thought. Major Manufacturer defect it sounds like. Engadget mentioned it on test unit.
Android 2.2 has a white notification bar so people don't and wont notice it, but boot screen, games, or video's with black it is noticeable and is NOT acceptable. Android 2.3 black notification bar you'd see it every time you look at phone.
I just got my brand new G2x today, and noticed this in the first 10 seconds. I'll be getting it replaced asap. Sadly can't do in store replacement cuz ordered online, different systems. So I have to wait for another to come in the mail.
http://yfrog.com/h4ey8fmj
This is during a video, that is WAY to much, it is also on the bottom of same side, but not as bad. So for those that cant tell, both right and left of the top of the phone has bleeding
MyTouch4G left, and the G2x with bleed on right!
Not good at all.
I have this problem as well, hopefully the replacement unit doesn't have the same issue :/
I have the same problem. Replacement units plus brick and mortar launch I smell backordered
Called store and store purchases can be replaced, but if you bought online then you must go through online for the new one. I might just go buy one in store tomorrow, and return my online purchase. lol.
Instead of waiting for a replacement to come in the mail.. this is BS though, they had plenty of time to check for these sort of things.
Both right and left have it when in portrait. So holding the phone for daily use, you can't see it, but on the top, both sides have pretty bad bleeding, the left (not in picture) is not as bad, but very close. overall this is terrible to see happening on such an amazing device. All the excitement I had coming home to open this, went to **** within 10 seconds when I saw that on boot screen.
uhhh.
Update, I can't even adjust my screen brightness, the option is greyed out on my phone. Anyone else with that problem?
Here is another shot using the app called DRAW!, screen goes black and you can draw on it, check out the difference.
MyTouch 4G on left, G2x on right. lol.
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Update, I can't even adjust my screen brightness, the option is greyed out on my phone. Anyone else with that problem?
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That happened on mine when I skipped the setup wizard (hit "Exit") during the first bootup.
This is not good...
Calling T-Mobile about this **** tomorrow..... vibrant problems to sgs4g problems now this!?
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Try exchanging it.
A little part of me died when i saw this issue... I am going in the store early tomorrow... guess i have to take a hoodie to create a dark environment and check for bleeding... did this happen right away like out of the box or after a few reboots and such?
I have a SLIGHT backlight bleed (not really noticeable) on the top left and even less on the bottom left - however, this doesn't affect the usability of the phone and I think you're just picking things to slam the G2x on. NO PHONE IS EVER PERFECT! Get over your nitpicking and move on or go to another phone - pretty much guaranteed that whatever replacement you get is going to have the same issues. End of story. Deal with it and move on (it only really affects blacks anyway) or go to another phone.
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I have a SLIGHT backlight bleed (not really noticeable) on the top left and even less on the bottom left - however, this doesn't affect the usability of the phone and I think you're just picking things to slam the G2x on. NO PHONE IS EVER PERFECT! Get over your nitpicking and move on or go to another phone - pretty much guaranteed that whatever replacement you get is going to have the same issues. End of story. Deal with it and move on (it only really affects blacks anyway) or go to another phone.
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Or just wait for the SGS2 which might have an unlocked boot loader but will never get source when CM8 w/ 2.4 comes out and it's a whirlwind of hating samsung like w/ my sgs vibrant........i'll stick w/ LG maybe they will release source much faster idk, i think i can deal w/ backlighting bleeding as long as it's minimal and it's not insane yuck....i doubt it will be...will see...
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Or just wait for the SGS2 which might have an unlocked boot loader but will never get source when CM8 w/ 2.4 comes out and it's a whirlwind of hating samsung like w/ my sgs vibrant........i'll stick w/ LG maybe they will release source much faster idk, i think i can deal w/ backlighting bleeding as long as it's minimal and it's not insane yuck....i doubt it will be...will see...
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What people don't understand is that EVERY LCD WILL HAVE BACKBLEED. Its just part of the process. But compare a Captivate with SAMOLED side by side with the G2x and you'll quickly notice that the colors on the G2x are much more realistic than the Captivate/SGS and on top of that, SAMOLED integrates a pentile matrix display which essentially cuts the actually visible resolution in half in comparison to the IPS-LCD that the G2x utilizes. I can actually see the pixels on my Captivate - I can NOT see them on my G2x because it uses an LCD. I'm quite happy with my G2x so far - hell my roommate was playing NFS for 2 hours and my battery went down 20% - my Cap can't even run the same APK (I rooted and installed it on the Cap - frame rate was abysmal - everyone says the PowerVR 540 is a better chip than the nVidia but the fact of the matter is that nVidia has a lot of hold in the industry due to their desktop presence and that makes a huge dent in the other chips - nVidia chips are easier to program for and as time goes on (Ice Cream for example), only then will the full power of these chips actually come to light.
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What people don't understand is that EVERY LCD WILL HAVE BACKBLEED. Its just part of the process. But compare a Captivate with SAMOLED side by side with the G2x and you'll quickly notice that the colors on the G2x are much more realistic than the Captivate/SGS and on top of that, SAMOLED integrates a pentile matrix display which essentially cuts the actually visible resolution in half in comparison to the IPS-LCD that the G2x utilizes. I can actually see the pixels on my Captivate - I can NOT see them on my G2x because it uses an LCD. I'm quite happy with my G2x so far - hell my roommate was playing NFS for 2 hours and my battery went down 20% - my Cap can't even run the same APK (I rooted and installed it on the Cap - frame rate was abysmal - everyone says the PowerVR 540 is a better chip than the nVidia but the fact of the matter is that nVidia has a lot of hold in the industry due to their desktop presence and that makes a huge dent in the other chips - nVidia chips are easier to program for and as time goes on (Ice Cream for example), only then will the full power of these chips actually come to light.
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My HD7 has absolutely no bleed and it's an LCD...
Screen flickering???
Ok, as a fellow early adopter, I too have the LCD bleeding problem. However, I'm noticing another problem. I put the screen to "automatic brightness" mode, which causes it to flicker. I understand that different lighting changes the brightness, but not like this. The screen goes light to dark and back again several times in the same light at the same angle. I'm thinking maybe it could be an issue with just my phone. Anyone else?
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Ok, as a fellow early adopter, I too have the LCD bleeding problem. However, I'm noticing another problem. I put the screen to "automatic brightness" mode, which causes it to flicker. I understand that different lighting changes the brightness, but not like this. The screen goes light to dark and back again several times in the same light at the same angle. I'm thinking maybe it could be an issue with just my phone. Anyone else?
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My Nexus always did this as well. I think this is more a problem with Android and adjusting the brightness too frequently based on small changes in light as opposed to looking for averages over a minute or so.
Luckily CyanogenMod 7 has incorporated several manual adjustments to how often this sensor changes your backlight and it makes a huge difference. Prior to that, I always just used manual backlight adjustment because it is pretty annoying.
I'm not nitpicking.. lol I can't believe people see that and think it is acceptable. you will see that everytime you look at the phone with Android 2.3 or any black bar mod..
I've heard from many that had this issue, and MANY that have zero bleed, so I will be replacing it to see if it is any better.
sikkboy626 said:
Ok, as a fellow early adopter, I too have the LCD bleeding problem. However, I'm noticing another problem. I put the screen to "automatic brightness" mode, which causes it to flicker. I understand that different lighting changes the brightness, but not like this. The screen goes light to dark and back again several times in the same light at the same angle. I'm thinking maybe it could be an issue with just my phone. Anyone else?
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I would just use manual brightness anyway. Not a lot of people know this but keeping your screen brightness set to automatic will drain your battery faster than running it at full brightness. It's been tested on multiple Android devices.
Also have the bleed issue, has anyone heard if LG or Tmo have acknowledged the problem?
Hey guys,
I decided that I want to have a simple clock app running at night when my phone is plugged in. I searched the market and found a lot of options; some with some cool features like "shake or tap to read time" and some with a flashlight built in.
Anyway, do I need to be concerned about "burn-in" with the One XL's screen? (I didn't see any apps where the time bounced around like an old school screensaver on a CRT monitor!) I'm guessing this just isn't an issue with these screens, but I wanted to make sure.
Finally, does anybody have an app they like for this? Or a specific feature to look for?
Thanks!
Billy
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From my understanding, at least for TV screens and computer monitors, LCDs don't technically "burn-in" like old CRT screens. But what can happen is called image persistence. Pretty similar to burn-in, where displaying a constant image for a long time period will leave a "ghost" image on the screen. But the difference with LCDs, is that the effect is reversible. Usually, turning the screen off, and/or playing constantly changing images for several hours will correct the persistent image. LCDs are much more resistant to image persistence that CRTs are to burn-in. And newer LCDs are even more protected than older ones. But none are completely immune, AFAIK. So screen savers aren't just for old school CRT monitors.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_persistence
Not sure if the display on this phone is different from LCD TVs, as there seem to be a wide array of LCD subcategories.
Sounds like you are considering using a clock app that keeps the screen on all night? Not sure if having the screen on all night (then off for most of the day) is enough to cause image persistence. There may be people on here that do it, that may be able to comment. But I personally would probably avoid it. Using the shake or tap to read functions you mentioned is probably a good idea.
No.
Try desk clock plus it has the night clock and it moves around the screen and it actually a very nice app anyways.
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Hi,
I got my S6 4 days ago and so far I'm really happy with it.
I have a tiny thing with my screen, can't even call it by a name and definitely don't know if it is an issue, so I'll try to describe it.
I noticed it by a mistake... after I got it, I opened the device, played with it to drain the battery in order to fully charge it.
When it went to 5% the device has reduced the brightness automatically to save the battery and than it appeared...
A one, look a like white pixel, somewhere around the middle of the screen that I didn't (and couldn't) notice before.
It stayed there no matter what i did or in which app I used.
After I got to 1% I plugged it to the power to charge it and than, when the brightness was automatically got brighter, it looked like
It disappeared... all looked fine.
After playing with it, I can summarize that I can clearly see this white pixel in 3 occasions:
1. When closing the screen, it appears for a millisecond on the black, like flashing and than the screen is shut off.
2. When opening the screen, the same, for a millisecond, like flashing.
3. When reducing the brightness.
In addition, if I am really trying, I can barely see it even in almost full brightness but just because I know it is there.
I understand that it is always there and because the brightness is high I can't almost see it.
I can say for sure that no one can see it if I won't point on it or mention it, even when closing the screen, you won't see it
unless you know it's there and you saw it after reducing the brightness.
Another strange thing (or maybe not) is that I took screenshots so I will be able to show it to you but it is not appearing over it
Even on a black screen - saw it but it is not there in the picture.
I can live with it, unless it is something can effect in the future. this is my only worry.
I know that the easy way is to go with the warranty, but as there are other issues with the screen like pinkish/yellow/green
Maybe if it's not an issue, better to leave it like that.
I really will appreciate your advise and opinion.
Dial *#0*#. Go Red, Green, Blue, Dimming. If the dot it's still visible in any of the tests you might have a dead pixel.
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pokr777 said:
Dial *#0*#. Go Red, Green, Blue, Dimming. If the dot it's still visible in any of the tests you might have a dead pixel.
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Did it, and pretty much the same as I described.
Red, Green, Blue - Nothing
Dimming - See it just after dimming is happening, meaning just after the second click (on first click see nothing).
So, it's dead? half dead?
Can it be worse?
Like I wrote, it is bother me just because:
1. I know it's there
2. Mostly because I'm afraid how it will effect in the future or if it means that my screen is defect.
What do you think?
Thanks for your help.
This is a strange issue, normally the pixel is either dead or not, whats even stranger is that you and others are suffering from dead pixels, i tought this was a thing of the past with oled screens but clearly im wrong.
I have 1 suggestion for you, put on your google chrome browser in your phone, a very dark gray (not black) picture and see if you can spot that pixel in that background and report back please, while viewing the picture, play with the brightness, put it manual on max manual on medium and manual on low, be sure to check it in a dark-ish environment.
Same same.
In a room with regular lights:
Can spot it on full or 6/8 contrast just because I know it's there and even than it is really hard to notice it.
When put it on medium it is more visible but I'm not so sure that in "regular" looking someone will see it unless he will look for it or by a mistake it will jump on his eyes.
When put it in lowest - it is very clear and shine.
In a dark room:
Can spot is all the time but:
On full or 6/8 contrast it is noticed but not shine. like a brighter gray.
On medium or the lowest contrast - it is very visible - clear and shine.
Was your S6 ever opened? ) Maybe you have a small piece of dust under the glass? Screen protector? Try to check if it's visible in direct sunlight with the screen off.
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Was your S6 ever opened? ) Maybe you have a small piece of dust under the glass? Screen protector? Try to check if it's visible in direct sunlight with the screen off.
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It wasn't open, it is brand new.
I have a glass screen protector - can something like dust cause this kind of an issue? I don't think so (bit don't know of course) as if so I would see it all the time + it wasn't like showing/glowing for millisecond when closing the screen.
Doesn't' it?
Never leave your battery die! This is a common mistake people make. Lithium ion batteries needs to be charged as often as possible never leave it die as it will deteriorate the battery.
That strange pixel will probably settle after some use. The pinkish colour on the screen seems like a lot of people have that problem. That would be the only reason I would send that back for warranty
Hi,
I think that it is indeed a dead pixel. However as your phone has such high resolution and pixel density, I think it is harder to see sometimes.
Regarding the future of this problem, I don't think it will affect you more than this. I've owned some devices with dead pixels and never ever they gave me problems (my good ol Nintendo DS had 2 haha, I've been playing it since 2006 IIRC). But if you want professional guidance, maybe it's a good idea to take the phone to a Samsung Technical Center or something like that and show them the dead pixel (or try), and also talk about the pinkish screen.
All the best,
~Lord
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Thanks for your help.
I went to the local Samsung store and it is indeed a dead pixel (or whatever) - They gave me a brand new device.
Regarding the battery, thanks for the information, I wasn't aware of it at all, I did leave it to die at first use as I was away, but anyway, even without knowing it, Today I charged it at around 30%
as usually I'm not waiting for it to die, but from now on I will give it more attention.
Thanks all.
Hello fellow XDA members,
In the past I started some threads regarding Samsung AMOLED display quality, especially for the Note devices.
Please see here if you are interessted:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/note4-amoled-screen-quality-t2906365
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2463786
Now, with the S8+ (and the S8, the problem is the same), even the media recognized the display problems, known as "red tint", just google for it!
Samsung tells the people that this is due to wrong settings, and/or the adaptive display setting turned on! THIS IS NOT THE CASE!!!
I got 2 pieces of S8+ today, and both displays are not OK. One screen has the red tint issue, but only on the upper half of the screen.
The other device has no red tint, but is generally darker and looks more "washed out" and has a slight yellow tint.
So again the display lottery is back, it is only "luck of the draw" if you get a decent screen or not!!!
If you do not believe me just compare a few devices beneath each other with the exact same display settings. Turn adaptive display off, then go into the dialer and type *#0*#, with this you ensure the brightness settings are the same and you have the same sceen content on both devices. You will notice that every single device has a different screen quality (tint, evenness, ...)
What do you say? Acceptable or not?
With all of us over at the tmobile shipping thread we've been waiting and crying and hoping that we get our devices early....and then when we finally got our devices ****ty things like red tint leaves a sour taste in our mouths..sad really, samsung already made this device feel rushed with all the Bixby and fingerprint scanner awkward positioning and what did we do after the note 7 debacle? We forgave these fools...and now this?....i do feel bad for those that actually paid full retail price for these expensive devices and to unbox and realize the screen is pink...that right there is not how to say forgive us for our mistakes instead a huge f u to all the customers who were unlucky enough to get such a horrible display color....but I will say I won the lottery because out of the box my s8plus came out nice no red pinkish tint whites are white...but why am I still pissed? Because my note 4 was the same whites were white and then after a year or so my eyes were fixed on a strange color that was taking up half of the screen that came out of nowhere...so yes I will be forever paranoid with sammys displays now....if my s8plus came in like that I don't think I would've came back....but then again I'm here lol
Settle down guys, this will likely be fixed with a future fw given the attention its gotten, this is pretty simple for samsung to fix actually, all samsung needs to do is what video games have been doing for years; offer the user an option to calibrate based a sample image. Once thats in, the presets can be established based off of those generated values from the user selection.
It seems like they will indeed need to implement a fix of this sorts, because it does seem the displays hue varys from device to device.
Anyways, for the most part, I hardly notice it and it seems even, and the more I look at it, the more i can't make sense out of it? Seems to play tricks on my eyes... lol.
Beautiful phone and display though!
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Settle down guys, this will likely be fixed with a future fw given the attention its gotten, this is pretty simple for samsung to fix actually, all samsung needs to do is what video games have been doing for years, offer the user an option to calibrate based on a sample image provided, once thats in the presets can be established based off of those generated values.
It seems they will need to implement thia because the displays vary so from device to device.
Anyways, for the most part, I hardly notice it, it seems even, and the more look at it the more i can make sense out of it, seems to llay tricks on my eyes, lol.
Beautiful phone and display though!
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This is a hardware problem, a real software fix IS NOT POSSIBLE!!!
Samsung can only try to cammo the problem with increasing the range of the color-sliders in the display settings, so that you can turn down red more then now. But this wont fix that the red tint is NOT EVEN ACROSS THE DISPLAY!!
What else proves that this is a hardware error is that if you put 5 devices next to each other (with the exact same settings), each of them will look different in regard to screen quality! Believe me, I know what I'm talking about, see my previous threads regarding that!
I agree that it should be even otherwise you may have a hardware problem but my concern is your criticism has more to do with amoled in gerneral and what we are observing is a consequence of the tech used. Samsung is also pushing the boundries here too with the display tech so the norms for amoled to compare to may not even apply anymore. And your comment to my comment regarding masking the problem, there is a reason why every display on the planet has picture settings.. right? No 2 displays are exactly the same...
I just went through the crap with my Surface Pro 4 too, trust me, they are a good example of no 2 displays alike, must have went though at least 11 Surface Pro 4 on my mission for perfection display and I had to give up in the end because truth is, its still an awesome device!
that happens when you get the early batches of s8+
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that happens when you get the early batches of s8+
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Absolutely unacceptable reasoning. They shouldn't be putting out a product if the "early batches" are DEFECTIVE
Obviously it's a QC problem, which they seem to have some fairly big issues with, over and over.. They will lose customer faith if they keep doing this ****
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Absolutely unacceptable reasoning. They shouldn't be putting out a product if the "early batches" are DEFECTIVE
Obviously it's a QC problem, which they seem to have some fairly big issues with, over and over.. They will lose customer faith if they keep doing this ****
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Perhaps but then again why did you buy a phone from samsung in the first place?.....
I was in the Samsung store yesterday for the launch party. They had 3 S8+ on display next to eachother. Each was running the exact same retail mode, showing the exact same content at the exact same time.
One display was white, one was red hued, and one was pee yellow.
(No, it wasn't display calibration settings, I checked).
There are definitely quality control issues.
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I was in the Samsung store yesterday for the launch party. They had 3 S8+ on display next to eachother. Each was running the exact same retail mode, showing the exact same content at the exact same time.
One display was white, one was red hued, and one was pee yellow.
(No, it wasn't display calibration settings, I checked).
There are definitely quality control issues.
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And which of the 3 do you have?
I noticed a slight pinkish tint when the shipping screen protector was on, but looks ok without it.
Something slightly different this year is there seems to be a pink tinge on all four sides of the display (top, bottom, left and right). It's a very consistent along the sides of the screen and very noticeable, a few people here have also noticed it: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/help/red-tint-screen-t3592335
So it's not just another pink/yellow/blue/green spotty tinge problem, theres now uniformity with the example i've provided.
I've got the S8+ and the screen is not red at all. The left and right edges if anything have a slight blueish tone to them but I believe this to be the effect of the screen curving to the sides distorting the colour (Colour shift?).
Unless you have bought one and have the problem with it, you have no right to complain.
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And which of the 3 do you have?
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Mine had a very slight pink tinge when I got it, at the very top and bottom (maybe half the status bar thickness), and it's since gone way.
The over all display color was a little too warm for my liking, so I knocked the red slider down to half, and now it's fine.
Got me and the wife one yesterday from At&t. No red tint and best phone yet. I love it.
My display is freaking beautiful and I love the fingerprint location. I never had any trouble. My finger finds it very naturally
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TML1504 said:
Hello fellow XDA members,
In the past I started some threads regarding Samsung AMOLED display quality, especially for the Note devices.
Please see here if you are interessted:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/note4-amoled-screen-quality-t2906365
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2463786
Now, with the S8+ (and the S8, the problem is the same), even the media recognized the display problems, known as "red tint", just google for it!
Samsung tells the people that this is due to wrong settings, and/or the adaptive display setting turned on! THIS IS NOT THE CASE!!!
I got 2 pieces of S8+ today, and both displays are not OK. One screen has the red tint issue, but only on the upper half of the screen.
The other device has no red tint, but is generally darker and looks more "washed out" and has a slight yellow tint.
So again the display lottery is back, it is only "luck of the draw" if you get a decent screen or not!!!
If you do not believe me just compare a few devices beneath each other with the exact same display settings. Turn adaptive display off, then go into the dialer and type *#0*#, with this you ensure the brightness settings are the same and you have the same sceen content on both devices. You will notice that every single device has a different screen quality (tint, evenness, ...)
What do you say? Acceptable or not?
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im not tying to be a jerk but just curious what happens when you cycle the --blue light filter-- button in the pull down menu with the wifi, Airplane mode ect.
reason i ask my displays is perfect but with the blue light filter on which is to reduce eyestrain ..then the display is very red
Really did not know they had this till i play around with it
Jonathan-H said:
I've got the S8+ and the screen is not red at all. The left and right edges if anything have a slight blueish tone to them but I believe this to be the effect of the screen curving to the sides distorting the colour (Colour shift?).
Unless you have bought one and have the problem with it, you have no right to complain.
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I have an S8+ as per my posts in the other thread, so I have a right to complain.
Firstly, it could well be fixed by software, even if its uneven, HTC had issues with the camera doing this a number of years ago (big red spot in all pictures). It was fixed with software
Secondly, it might disappear with time. AMOLED, OLED and other self lighting technologies (like Plasma in TVs) have a bed in time, where some colour ranges need to burn in. I would suggest a full red screen using a screen tester app for a few hours, to see if it beds in the red.
Guys, I would like to take this device, there is a possibility of having a faded display?
So is anybody got not device yet that doesn't require the red to be turned all the way down in order to look somewhat appropriate?
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mopar said:
So is anybody got not device yet that doesn't require the red to be turned all the way down in order to look somewhat appropriate?
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Red screen*
When I got this phone in my opinion it was clear whit but tgen when I tried reducing the red colour it became even more clearer, I don't know it's probably I didn't pay attention to the colour when I got this phone...
In my opinion the blue light filter messes up the display although I know this isn't the case..
I got a replacement new phone as I cracked the screen on my first one, and my new one, if anything is slightly cooler / bluer than I usually like, no red / pink issues I can see. My last one was ever so slightly reddish even with red slider down.
for me it is fixed after:
- specific sw update
- set adaptive display
- set display tone to cooler option (-1 or -2 from the slide bar in display settings)
Out of the box mine is fine. I swapped my first one that had a pinkish display even when red turned all the way down.
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So is anybody got not device yet that doesn't require the red to be turned all the way down in order to look somewhat appropriate?
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if i understand your question right then yes, there are devices without the ted tint issue!
I went into 4 shops and looked at 8 phones and everyone of them had the red /pink issue only 1 could you turn down red to reduce it in adaptive settings when it became blue/green white and all were red In photo and cinema settings
I bought my s8+ ten days ago, after two days I changed it because of pink borders... Before change, I powered on two new s8+, one were all red (not only borders), the other one was nearly perfect... But I had to choose another color (orchid gray) instead of my first black phone... It's a shame that we have to choose the phone from the color of display and not from the color of the phone...
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My screen is pretty noticeably green-tinted, but it somehow gets corrected when sliding the cool / warm slider all the way to the right, making the display more warm. Even though the issue is too much green, making the display warmer seems to fix it somehow. I know that the issue is green, because sliding down the green slider under advanced options fixes it, while sliding down the blue or red one just makes it worse
And pro tip, you can combine the cool / warm slider with the advanced options RGB sliders, if the warm / cool slider isn't enough on its own. Perfect mix for me is the cool / warm slider all the way to the right, and green slider decreased by 1-2. You could fix a bright red display with the combination of the general slider and the RGB sliders
I'm still concerned that Samsung isn't taking this time to educate people of OLED calibration. They could put this entire thing to bed with just providing more than 2 marketing crafted sentences. Not one thing is wrong with the screen sans those with actual manufacturing issues of course. Microsoft takes their pixel sense displays, like apple and individually calibrates them. Its why you don't complain about color on iPhones and even surface PCs.
This has 0 to do with the display, the manufacturing process etc. It's just a step that Samsung and many other don't do to their phones. They take a lot # for screens produced, get them close to accurate, preprogram the variables for the entire lot and off ya go. The update is fine because all it does is give yu extended granular control over the calibrations. Once you set the point on all, you'll be fine.
Keep in mind that even if they were individually SRGB calibrated for perfect color space and white point, someone who find them to look off because as humans our perception of color varies tremendously. I hate overblown colors yet RGB 100% dead on is weak and dead to me.
Just use your settings to make your screen right for you. That's all. Don't yell at CS, don't sit in the store waiting for their next lot of phones. They will be variations of the same display with slightly more detailed calibrations. And you'll have wasted time waiting for something you can just do yourself with some patience and correct lighting.
Funny thing about red screen and pink tint. I have my s8 plus since a week. My device came with lots of red tint, then I got an update that really helped, but still wasn't perfect. After few days my screen lost pink/red tint without adjusting anything. Of course, little pink tint on the edges exist but it's due to screen specifics.
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I'm still concerned that Samsung isn't taking this time to educate people of OLED calibration. They could put this entire thing to bed with just providing more than 2 marketing crafted sentences. Not one thing is wrong with the screen sans those with actual manufacturing issues of course. Microsoft takes their pixel sense displays, like apple and individually calibrates them. Its why you don't complain about color on iPhones and even surface PCs.
This has 0 to do with the display, the manufacturing process etc. It's just a step that Samsung and many other don't do to their phones. They take a lot # for screens produced, get them close to accurate, preprogram the variables for the entire lot and off ya go. The update is fine because all it does is give yu extended granular control over the calibrations. Once you set the point on all, you'll be fine.
Keep in mind that even if they were individually SRGB calibrated for perfect color space and white point, someone who find them to look off because as humans our perception of color varies tremendously. I hate overblown colors yet RGB 100% dead on is weak and dead to me.
Just use your settings to make your screen right for you. That's all. Don't yell at CS, don't sit in the store waiting for their next lot of phones. They will be variations of the same display with slightly more detailed calibrations. And you'll have wasted time waiting for something you can just do yourself with some patience and correct lighting.
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What your saying makes a lot of sense to me, maybe you can point me in the right direction here. I have the S8+ with a pink tinted screen and even pinker edges. Fortunately mine is consistent across the screen. I have 4 other Samsung phones and the Tab S 10.5, which all have great displays (at least to me they're all great). Every one has a slightly different white balance, but they're all nice. They also can be tilted at very strong angles and only have very minor tinting of the colors. Now, my S8+ has been updated and I've been able to get the edges to look great. I'm also able to get the main screen to a really nice white. Here's the two problems I'm running into that you might be able to help me learn how to fix and finish getting my phone to the quality I've grown to love with all of my other Samsung devices. If i adjust my whites in any giving environment, say inside, it looks wonderful, but as soon as I go elsewhere, like outside, or go from incandescent light to florescent, the whites will go to either redish again, or to a green/blueish. I've never had this on any of my other Samsung devices, I mean they do change from warm to cool depending on the environment I'm using them in, but they never look redish, or green/blueish like my S8+ does, they are warm or cool. That's what I'm trying to adjust my S8+ to do. I have all the great new tools that Samsung gave us in the latest update, but for some reason, I can't get it anywhere close to my other devices and have it stay that way when changing the lighting I'm in. The second problem I'm having is that if my phone isn't held almost perfectly straight on, it takes on a pink hue again. None of my other devices do this either. Like I said, all of my Samsung devices have different white balances, but they're still enjoyable to use. The main reason I've stayed strictly with Samsung is their displays, I'm a huge fan and just can't find any displays I enjoy more than Samsung's.....until now. If you can share any advice on anything I might be able to do to fix my S8+, I'd greatly appreciate it, this phone is the best one I've ever had, and I really don't want to have to return it and risk getting a dud. The display is really important to me and if i can get it to be at least as good as the worst of my other Samsung devices, it would be awesome! Thanks in advance for any advice!
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What your saying makes a lot of sense to me, maybe you can point me in the right direction here. I have the S8+ with a pink tinted screen and even pinker edges. Fortunately mine is consistent across the screen. I have 4 other Samsung phones and the Tab S 10.5, which all have great displays (at least to me they're all great). Every one has a slightly different white balance, but they're all nice. They also can be tilted at very strong angles and only have very minor tinting of the colors. Now, my S8+ has been updated and I've been able to get the edges to look great. I'm also able to get the main screen to a really nice white. Here's the two problems I'm running into that you might be able to help me learn how to fix and finish getting my phone to the quality I've grown to love with all of my other Samsung devices. If i adjust my whites in any giving environment, say inside, it looks wonderful, but as soon as I go elsewhere, like outside, or go from incandescent light to florescent, the whites will go to either redish again, or to a green/blueish. I've never had this on any of my other Samsung devices, I mean they do change from warm to cool depending on the environment I'm using them in, but they never look redish, or green/blueish like my S8+ does, they are warm or cool. That's what I'm trying to adjust my S8+ to do. I have all the great new tools that Samsung gave us in the latest update, but for some reason, I can't get it anywhere close to my other devices and have it stay that way when changing the lighting I'm in. The second problem I'm having is that if my phone isn't held almost perfectly straight on, it takes on a pink hue again. None of my other devices do this either. Like I said, all of my Samsung devices have different white balances, but they're still enjoyable to use. The main reason I've stayed strictly with Samsung is their displays, I'm a huge fan and just can't find any displays I enjoy more than Samsung's.....until now. If you can share any advice on anything I might be able to do to fix my S8+, I'd greatly appreciate it, this phone is the best one I've ever had, and I really don't want to have to return it and risk getting a dud. The display is really important to me and if i can get it to be at least as good as the worst of my other Samsung devices, it would be awesome! Thanks in advance for any advice!
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Now that seems like it might actually be a dud. Or try first calibration outside. This seems silly but are you using auto bright and adaptive display?
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Now that seems like it might actually be a dud. Or try first calibration outside. This seems silly but are you using auto bright and adaptive display?
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Ok, I will definitely try the calibration outside. I'm not sure I've tried it outside on a bright day yet. I am using the adaptive display setting and auto brightness, all of the other modes are quite pink and unusable, actually the tint is more of a magenta. I'm fairly certain its the adaptive display mode shifting my white balance in the various environments. Hopefully Samsung will somehow fix the other modes as well. The more I use my phone, the more I realize the biggest problem is the color shift that happens at angles. Almost any movement up, down, left, or right will produce a pink tint. If i go to an even stronger angle (around 75 degrees)the tint goes away. I can also get rid of it by turning both the red and blue down all the way and set the slider fully towards cool. The pink is gone when I do this, but then everything's really blue/green. Thanks for the suggestion, I'll definitely give it a try and let you know how it works.
I've tried calibrating my display outdoors, but the pink persists. I decided to send mine back to Samsung. They said they'll repair it lol. I'll just keep sending it in until it's right. I'm at Best Buy now to have Samsung flash my firmware like the factory asked, although it's not going to fix anything. I've looked at about ten various S8 phones on display and found only 2 with the problem, one of the was borderline ok, the other was just like mine. It's my first time seeing another S8, one that doesn't have the pink tint and it pretty much about took my breath away! The display was more beautiful than I had thought it would be. I just wish Samsung would simply make this right and swap out these faulty phones, heck I'd respect them for it. Having to jump through hoops on a brand new thousand dollar phone is ridiculous. I had debated about sending it in to Samsung, wondering if I was just being too picky. After seeing what the display is supposed to look like, there's no doubt in my mind that my display/phone/software, whatever, is defective. Grrrrrr
I received an update today and it has fixed my pink/red screen.
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I received an update today and it has fixed my pink/red screen.
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vimto25 said:
I received an update today and it has fixed my pink/red screen.
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Carrier?
Sent from my SM-G955U using XDA-Developers Legacy app
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Carrier?
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XEU
gregoryostrom said:
I've tried calibrating my display outdoors, but the pink persists. I decided to send mine back to Samsung. They said they'll repair it lol. I'll just keep sending it in until it's right. I'm at Best Buy now to have Samsung flash my firmware like the factory asked, although it's not going to fix anything. I've looked at about ten various S8 phones on display and found only 2 with the problem, one of the was borderline ok, the other was just like mine. It's my first time seeing another S8, one that doesn't have the pink tint and it pretty much about took my breath away! The display was more beautiful than I had thought it would be. I just wish Samsung would simply make this right and swap out these faulty phones, heck I'd respect them for it. Having to jump through hoops on a brand new thousand dollar phone is ridiculous. I had debated about sending it in to Samsung, wondering if I was just being too picky. After seeing what the display is supposed to look like, there's no doubt in my mind that my display/phone/software, whatever, is defective. Grrrrrr
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There is no chance I'd allow Samsung to "repair" my phone. This thing is brand new. You make them get you a BRAND NEW device out of a box you open in wherever you purchased it. Then you move forward in the store and check that display and all other fun things. Once satisfied, buy that unit. Why ever take a repair on something less than 1 month old. Have fun selling my OG unit as a refurb Sammy!