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[Q] Magic value mistmatch Fix

Hi,
I updated to the latest clockworkmod recovery (clockworkmod_recovery_2.5.1.2_2010112400) and got the message "Magic value mistmatch"
How can I get back into recovery mode? the power + volume up no longer works.

smakcc said:
Hi,
I updated to the latest clockworkmod recovery (clockworkmod_recovery_2.5.1.2_2010112400) and got the message "Magic value mistmatch"
How can I get back into recovery mode? the power + volume up no longer works.
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Try the Quick Boot app and have it reboot into recovery.

The .12 clockworkmod has this issue - it's the main reason why I don't use it.
I think it's due to using non-padded boot.img files, for example TnT 2.2.0 is affected. I actually need to update my TnT post with this information.

I cant get the tablet to go past the Viewsonic logo. Is quick app a recovery mode? what's the button combination

roebeet said:
The .12 clockworkmod has this issue - it's the main reason why I don't use it.
I think it's due to using non-padded boot.img files, for example TnT 2.2.0 is affected. I actually need to update my TnT post with this information.
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Roebeet,
Please help. I was trying to flash the 6.1 beta 4 with the latest version of the clockworkmod and now i cannot get past the viewsonic logo screen.
I followed your article from here: wiki.tegratab.com/index.php/ROMs
1. Could not find the "android_Tegra_250_FroyoOV5650v2.msi". Got another "tegra_froyo_20101105" from the site.
2. There is no "nvflash_gtablet.bat" when the file is extracted to the directory "C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\tegra_froyo_20101105".
These are the .bat files i saw:
nvflash_1gb_crt.bat
nvflash_1gb_crt_256VRAM.bat
nvflash_1gb_hdmi
nvflash_1gb_hdmi_256VRAM
nvflash_1gb_lcd
nvflash_1gb_lcd_256VRAM
Which one should I run?

I've gong through that headache a few times. I've recovered it doing one of two things...
1) Turn the thing off and let it sit for 20 minutes or so.
2) Go into recovery on next boot. For me it would usually let you get back into recovery if I just left it off for 20 minutes. If not then go straight to the link below.
3) Format all partitions and then flash the 2.5.1.1 clockwork recovery
4) Reboot recovery then reflash the ROM
If that didn't get it back then recover via APX
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855690

The nvflash I posted is just a update.zip alternative. When you get errors like the mismatch, you need to completely wipe the device using bekit's method.
Here's the best doc I know, about that:
http://forum.tegratab.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=8

Thanks. I was able to recover my tablet. Just a question:
Roebeet you .bat file looks like this:
"nvflash.exe" --bct gtablet.bct --setbct --bl bootloader.bin --configfile gtablet.cfg --create --go
@set /p batuserinput=Press enter to continue:
I ran the wrong bat file that looks like this:
"nvflash.exe" --bct flash.bct --setbct --bl bootloader.bin --configfile flash.cfg --odmdata 0x3b000011 --create --go
@set /p batuserinput=Press enter to continue:
After this my tablet runs slower than usual. Any idea what "odmdata 0x3b000011" this value did to my tablet?

smakcc said:
Thanks. I was able to recover my tablet. Just a question:
Roebeet you .bat file looks like this:
"nvflash.exe" --bct gtablet.bct --setbct --bl bootloader.bin --configfile gtablet.cfg --create --go
@set /p batuserinput=Press enter to continue:
I ran the wrong bat file that looks like this:
"nvflash.exe" --bct flash.bct --setbct --bl bootloader.bin --configfile flash.cfg --odmdata 0x3b000011 --create --go
@set /p batuserinput=Press enter to continue:
After this my tablet runs slower than usual. Any idea what "odmdata 0x3b000011" this value did to my tablet?
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I actually don't know what it means. My suggestion is to reflash with the right syntax, just to play it safe. nvflash is all low level stuff, so if you mess up the device you can still unbrick it. I've done this a few times.

[Q] nvflash

Last nigh I left my transformer at 25% battery power in flight mode.
This morning was not able to switch my Transformer on.
After trying all possibilities to enter recover mode without success, I decided to use NVflash and reflash prime_v1.4.
However NVflash exits with the following error. What can go wrong?
Any idea how to fix this?
Regards,
Nikola
"nvflash.exe" --bct transformer.bct --setbct --configfile flash.cfg --create --bl bootloader.bin --odmdata 0x300d8011 --sbk 0x1682CCD8 0x8A1A43EA xA532EEB 0xECFE1D98 --go
Nvflash started
rcm version 0X20001
System Information:
chip name: t20
chip id: 0x20 major: 1 minor: 3
chip sku: 0x8
chip uid: 0x033c208340403317
macrovision: disabled
hdcp: enabled
sbk burned: true
dk burned: true
boot device: emmc
operating mode: 4
device config strap: 2
device config fuse: 0
sdram config strap: 0
sending file: transformer.bct
- 4080/4080 bytes sent
transformer.bct sent successfully
odm data: 0x300d8011
downloading bootloader -- load address: 0x108000 entry point: 0x108000
sending file: bootloader.bin
| 943193/943193 bytes sent
bootloader.bin sent successfully
waiting for bootloader to initialize
bootloader downloaded successfully
setting device: 2 3
creating partition: BCT
creating partition: PT
creating partition: EBT
creating partition: SOS
creating partition: LNX
creating partition: BAK
creating partition: GP1
creating partition: APP
creating partition: CAC
creating partition: MSC
creating partition: USP
creating partition: PER
creating partition: YTU
creating partition: UDA
creating partition: GPT
failed executing command 12 NvError 0x120002
command failure: create failed (bad data)
bootloader status: fatal failure to read / write to mass storage (code: 9) message: nverror:0x42008 (0x19042008) flags:
0

same error :s

Have you copy/paste your NVFlash command in this thread or do you write it yourself?
Because it seems to be an error in your command:
the right command is:
"nvflash.exe" --bct transformer.bct --setbct --configfile flash.cfg --create --bl bootloader.bin --odmdata 0x300d8011 --sbk 0x1682CCD8 0x8A1A43EA 0xA532EEB6 0xECFE1D98 --go
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The difference between this one and yours is the "0" before "xA532EEB6". You muste have "0xA532EEB6"
if it dosen't work try with another version of Prime... (1.5 or 1.8)

Kasimodo said:
Have you copy/paste your NVFlash command in this thread or do you write it yourself?
Because it seems to be an error in your command:
the right command is:
The difference between this one and yours is the "0" before "xA532EEB6". You muste have "0xA532EEB6"
if it dosen't work try with another version of Prime... (1.5 or 1.8)
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This is the content of download.bat
cd %~dp0
"nvflash.exe" --bct transformer.bct --setbct --configfile flash.cfg --create --bl bootloader.bin --odmdata 0x300d8011 --sbk 0x1682CCD8 0x8A1A43EA 0xA532EEB6 0xECFE1D98 --go
I tried with different versions of Prime but the same error happens.
Is there any other way to get some more logging/debug info from the bootloader or to check if the emmc memory is not broken or locked.
Regards,
Nikola

I think there is a problem with your internal SD. Because the next command after creating partitions is to format partitions.
But have you tried to download another nvflash.exe?
Otherwise I don't see anything else

battery is too low

Command is correct (it's in dowload.bat file) and battery is 100% (all night charging) but always the same error...
When I execute batch file, after a few seconds, screen turn on and display :
Code:
Entering NvFlash recovery mode / Nv3p Server
Chip Uid: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
And batch file close...

tnp0511 said:
Command is correct (it's in dowload.bat file) and battery is 100% (all night charging) but always the same error...
When I execute batch file, after a few seconds, screen turn on and display :
Code:
Entering NvFlash recovery mode / Nv3p Server
Chip Uid: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
And batch file close...
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Exactly the same behavior here.
I will try to charge it tomorrow with another charger.

Make sure to run in a cmd window so that you can see why it's exiting

Run from cmd window
AustinMartin said:
Make sure to run in a cmd window so that you can see why it's exiting
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The run has also been done from a cmd window:
"nvflash.exe" --bct transformer.bct --setbct --configfile flash.cfg --create --bl bootloader.bin --odmdata 0x300d8011 --sbk 0x1682CCD8 0x8A1A43EA 0xA532EEB 0xECFE1D98 --go
It is always exiting with:
creating partition: GPT
failed executing command 12 NvError 0x120002
command failure: create failed (bad data)
bootloader status: fatal failure to read / write to mass storage (code: 9) message: nverror:0x42008 (0x19042008) flags: 0
Also interesting to notice that when I run without --create and without --go but with --sync
"nvflash.exe" --bct transformer.bct --setbct --configfile flash.cfg --bl bootloader.bin --odmdata 0x300d8011 --sbk 0x1682CCD8 0x8A1A43EA 0xA532EEB 0xECFE1D98 --sync
The output is
Nvflash started
rcm version 0X20001
System Information:
chip name: t20
chip id: 0x20 major: 1 minor: 3
chip sku: 0x8
chip uid: 0x033c208340403317
macrovision: disabled
hdcp: enabled
sbk burned: true
dk burned: true
boot device: emmc
operating mode: 4
device config strap: 2
device config fuse: 0
sdram config strap: 0
sending file: transformer.bct
- 4080/4080 bytes sent
transformer.bct sent successfully
odm data: 0x300d8011
downloading bootloader -- load address: 0x108000 entry point: 0x108000
sending file: bootloader.bin
| 943193/943193 bytes sent
bootloader.bin sent successfully
waiting for bootloader to initialize
bootloader downloaded successfully
but I never get the prompt back.

Is your TF101 rooted?

Kasimodo said:
Is your TF101 rooted?
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Yes, it was rooted. 1 mount ago i flushed prime1.4 using the same procedure (nvflash + prime1.4). everything worked OK until sunday morning when the TF101 would not switch on.
Regards,
Nikola

Argh. I'm afraid that there is a physical problem.
If it was mine I will try to unroot it to see. Anf after the best is to contact Asus for return.

any other idea ?
otherwise return to Asus on Saturday

im sorry for bumping old thread, just curious about the result, since now i have exatly the same problem, i can go into apx mode, but when i started the download.bat, the problem is the same, nvflash just exit after that, tf screen turned on, and when i tried to start the download.bat again, the cmd only show "nvflash is starting"

uman01 said:
im sorry for bumping old thread, just curious about the result, since now i have exatly the same problem, i can go into apx mode, but when i started the download.bat, the problem is the same, nvflash just exit after that, tf screen turned on, and when i tried to start the download.bat again, the cmd only show "nvflash is starting"
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+1
what can we do?

DTrainMusicVein said:
+1
what can we do?
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You probably have an SBKv2 tablet which you can't use NVFlash right now

baseballfanz said:
You probably have an SBKv2 tablet which you can't use NVFlash right now
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I checked the original package and it says B50, where exactly would I find if its SBKv1 or 2? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought B50s were SBKv1?
Thanks in advance

DTrainMusicVein said:
I checked the original package and it says B50, where exactly would I find if its SBKv1 or 2? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought B50s were SBKv1?
Thanks in advance
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Yes you're B50 should be SBKv1.
You do have all the needed files in the nv flash folder?

I believe so, I have downloaded the rooted and unrooted US versions of the ICS NVFlash and I am going to try the WW next? Any other tips? Its still failing on me...

[Q] G2X won't turn on!

I have a problem with my g2x that can't be turned up, it stuck when I flash the NVflash "G2X_V21E_00_NVFlash". I did get through once then it's error again. Then I followed the same instruction but I have no idea why I can't pass through. I hope people can help me with this and tell me how or experience that they had it and solved it. Anyway, thank before the hand, I'm really appreciated your help.
Here the message I got when I tried to flash the NVFlash with G2X_V21E_00_NVFlash.
"C:\Users\Free\Desktop\Download\Software\Android\LG G2X\G2X_V21E_00_NVFlash>.\nvf
lash.exe --bct E1108_Hynix_512MB_H8TBR00U0MLR-0DM_300MHz_final_emmc_x8.bct --set
bct --odmdata 0xC8000 --configfile android_fastboot_emmc_full.cfg --create --bl
fastboot.bin --go
Nvflash started
rcm version 0X20001
System Information:
chip name: unknown
chip id: 0x20 major: 1 minor: 3
chip sku: 0xf
chip uid: 0x033c20c143e0b5d7
macrovision: disabled
hdcp: enabled
sbk burned: false
dk burned: false
boot device: emmc
operating mode: 3
device config strap: 0
device config fuse: 17
sdram config strap: 0
sending file: E1108_Hynix_512MB_H8TBR00U0MLR-0DM_300MHz_final_emmc_x8.bct
- 4080/4080 bytes sent
E1108_Hynix_512MB_H8TBR00U0MLR-0DM_300MHz_final_emmc_x8.bct sent successfully
odm data: 0xc8000
downloading bootloader -- load address: 0x108000 entry point: 0x108000
sending file: fastboot.bin
\ 888548/888548 bytes sent
fastboot.bin sent successfully
waiting for bootloader to initialize"

Did you try doing it with the battery out and holding the volume buttons down until it gets past the bootloader?
Sent from my LG-P999

I did but it never go pass through it. It just stop at the " waiting for bootloader to initialize ". I tired dozen of time but it never works.

When I use nvflash for flashing clockworkmod, I know it's not identical to what you are doing but it should be close enough, I use these instructions and it has always worked:
===== STEP 1 - Flashing ClockworkMod Recovery 5.0.2.0:
download the 5.0.2.0 clockworkmod recovery image
place recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.0-p999.img in C:\G2x\NVFlash
Unplug everything
remove the battery
Hold Vol Up/Down (and keep them held)
Insert USB cable
open command prompt
execute the following commands:
Code:
navigate to folder with nvflash.exe in it at command prompt, for me cd g2x\nvflash
nvflash.exe --bct E1108_Hynix_512MB_H8TBR00U0MLR-0DM_300MHz_final_emmc_x8.bct --bl fastboot.bin --download 5 recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.0-p999.img
You should see it send a bunch of files to the device and the phone screen should say "S/W Upgrade - Please wait while upgrading...". You can let go of the volume buttons at this point. Once the files are sent and the program is finished running in the command window, you CAN just pull the USB cord or be safe and just wait a few extra minutes, however it will still say "upgrading.
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Hope that helps somehow....

kuhla said:
When I use nvflash for flashing clockworkmod, I know it's not identical to what you are doing but it should be close enough, I use these instructions and it has always worked:
Hope that helps somehow....
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I have no idea it's still not working any thank for your replying.

Maybe try re installing the LG and APX drivers?
Sent from my LG-P999

[solved] Help with NVflash? Reflash failing

Okay, I have done something wrong.
I had a stock transformer. I am using Linux and am trying to root and install recovery, with the idea being to flash a custom ROM after successful root.
I am using wheelie with NVflash. I was attempting to install a CWM blob. It was saying that it was written, but when I would boot into recovery, it only has the cold boot/wipe data options.
So this is where I screwed up.
I had seen it said that with NVflash it is almost unbrickable so I wasn't being as attentive as I should have been. With all the out-of-date rooting methods and firmware update exploit fixes, I had reading about this for hours.
So anyway, I was stupidly cut/past a command that was originally for windows and just ran it like a dummy. I thought it was extra config info and didn't look carefully. It looked like it was part of the recovery install instructions, but I should have been more careful. The command looks, on further examination, like a wipe/flash firmware, which fails because there was nothing to write in that directory, I believe.
Code:
./nvflash -r --bct transformer.bct --setbct --configfile flash.cfg --create --odmdata 0x300d8011 --sync
it formated a bunch of partitions and ended with this error
Code:
Formatting partition 15 UDA please wait.. done!
Formatting partition 16 GPT please wait.. done!
done!
file not found: blob.EBT
failed executing command 2147483647 NvError 0x4
command failure: create failed
I tried to install recovery again, but I get messages like this:
Code:
[email protected]:~/android/transformer/root/wheelie$ ./nvflash -r --download 5 recovery-clockwork-5.8.3.4-tf101.img.SOS
Nvflash started
[resume mode]
sending file: recovery-clockwork-5.8.3.4-tf101.img.SOS
| 4360192/4360192 bytes sent
recovery-clockwork-5.8.3.4-tf101.img.SOS sent successfully
failed executing command 25 NvError 0x120002
command failure: sync failed (bad data)
bootloader status: Bootloader not found (code: 27) message: nverror:0x8 (0x8) flags: 0
[email protected]:~/android/transformer/root/wheelie$ ./nvflash -r --go
Nvflash started
[resume mode]
command failure: go failed
(bad command)
bootloader status: unknown operation (code: 1) message: flags: 0
I downloaded an update from Asus, US_epad-user-9.2.1.24.zip, which matches my old build, unpacked the blob, and have tried to run the ./reflash script. But it just hangs as you see here.
Code:
[email protected]:~/android/transformer/root/wheelie$ ./wheelie -2 --bct transformer.bct --bl bootloader.bin --odm 0x300d8011
Wheelie 0.1 - Preflight for nvflash.
Copyright (c) 2011-2012 androidroot.mobi
========================================
Using SBK type 2.
Using bootloader: 'bootloader.bin'.
Using BCT: 'transformer.bct'.
----------------------------------------
[=] Chip UID: 0x37c708542bff297
[=] RCM Version: 0x20001
[=] CPU Model: Tegra 2
[=] Secure Boot Key Set: Yes
[+] Sending BCT
Sending file: 100 %
[+] Sending ODMData 0x300D8011
[+] Sending bootloader...
Sending file: 100 %
[!] Done - your device should now be ready for nvflash
[email protected]:~/android/transformer/root/wheelie$ ./reflash_sbkv2.sh
Wheelie 0.1 - Preflight for nvflash.
Copyright (c) 2011-2012 androidroot.mobi
========================================
Using SBK type 2.
Using bootloader: 'bootloader.bin'.
Using BCT: 'transformer.bct'.
----------------------------------------
I then have to turn off the tablet to regain the APX connection.
This is might be TMI, but I haven't used any of these Tegra tools before, and would like to fix this thing as I just bought it for my wife this weekend...
Thanks!
Edit: .21 ICS, and C30 tf101.
Update: I was originally using the all-in-one package from wheelie. I downloaded nvflash by itself and made a new wheelie directory with the new nvflash files replacing those that were in the all-in-one. I also reunpacked the blob. Now when I run the ./reflash command, I now get
Code:
$ ./reflash_sbkv2.sh
File recovery.img is missing!
File boot.img is missing!
File system.img is missing!
One or more files are missing. Read documentation and provide the necessary files to continue!
which seems better, I suppose. I am tempted to just try and get those files from a custom rom and see what happens. Although I will try and wait to see if anyone has some advice. My shots in the dark haven't been very helpful so far...still I feel like it looks more promising...
update2 My overconfidence and impatience got the best of me. I tracked down a system, recovery and boot.omg that was in Prime!2.1 (HC) and then added it to the wheelie2 directory. It began to run, but then still hung at the same spot.
I decided to reboot my computer, and I also saw that maybe I did not need (as you can see above) intialize wheelie before reflashing. So I cd to wheelie2 and ran the ./reflash etc.
It wrote and the TRansformer automatically rebooted and showed the gears and now there is at least working Honeycomb (which is 10 times better than the OTA ICS she had.) I am not sure if it was intializing wheelie that gave me the problems or a bad nvflash or did my workstation need a reboot (unlikely, but still...)
Thanks for listening for what is now no goddam reason!

TF101 Settings stopped working

I already had a try on this on another forum:
hxxp://www(dot)transformerforums.com/forum/asus-transformer-help/25176-settings-stopped-working-tf101.html
(can't post links yet)
I have a TF101G ( sn:C20KAS035896) from a friend, everytime he went in to the settings it says: "settings stopped working"
I tried a factory reset, (from stock recovery menu), got it to reset, but now i cant get through the "first-time-setup-wizard":
at step 3 it asks to connect to a WiFi network, I select one, it asks for a password, but when I enter it and press ok it says "Unfortunately settings stopped working". After a few seconds it starts again at step one of the wizard..
I figured out it is a WW version.
So, what do I best try next?
After reading some here, i guess I get a alternative recovery and use that to flash a new stock rom onto the tablet.
But could you point me to the right posts and methods, because I'm not sure which is the right one.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552303
Then this you were looking for ? It is with recovery 3.2.0.1 us or ww stock rooted full rom edition
good luck

It might be. It seems to be a link to a zip file. The contents looks like the contents of a standard firmware file. Only the blob part is much smaller, and there is a system folder which isnt in the standard firmware update.
But I don't know what to do with it..
I was thinking maybe wolfs method 3 could help me out?
hxxp://forum(dot)xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1622628
(can't post links yet)
But i'm still strugling with adb though..
When i run "adb devices" I think it should list my TF101 but it doesn't

After some more reading and trying, I've come to the conclusion I can't get adb to connect to the device.
I also have an android phone: a HTC desire, which I can get to connect with adb. But the asus is stuck at the "first-time-setup-wizard" (as I explained above)..
Though I can see the device in windows explorer (win 7 64bit), and the 2 mounted drives "Internal storage" and "SD Card"
I can get it into apx mode, but nvflash doesn't work for my version of the device its a TF101G sn:C20KAS035896
What could i try next?
I want to flash the stock rom, as mine seems to be broken, and I cant use adb
EDIT:
Just found out about wheelie, should that tool be able to do what I want?
androidroot(dot)mobi/2012/05/27/introducing-wheelie-nvflash-for-asus-transformer-tf101-b70/
My device isnt explicitly listed, and EasyFlasher a tool based on wheelie says it doesnt work for my device.. So should it work or not?
Do I need linux for this? I cygwin ok?
EDIT2:
As I understand it, I probably have a Secure Boot Key that isn't version 1 or 2?
There is a sbk detection tool, but afaik it only works on mac, and I don't have a mac available..
I have tried the windows beta version of wheelie, and the output i get is the following:
reflash_sbkv2.bat
Code:
J:\TF101\wheelie>reflash_sbkv2.bat
J:\TF101\wheelie>cd J:\TF101\wheelie\
J:\TF101\wheelie>"wheelie.exe" -2 --bct transformer.bct --bl bootloader.bin --o
dm 0x300d8011
Wheelie 0.1 - Preflight for nvflash.
Copyright (c) 2011-2012 androidroot.mobi
========================================
Using SBK type 2.
Using bootloader: 'bootloader.bin'.
Using BCT: 'transformer.bct'.
----------------------------------------
[=] Chip UID: 0x305242034059367191
[-] Incorrect SBK or SBK type selected. nverror: 0x4.
J:\TF101\wheelie>"nvflash.exe" -r --bct transformer.bct --setbct --configfile fl
ash.cfg --create --odmdata 0x300d8011 --sync
Nvflash started
[resume mode]
failed executing command 11 NvError 0x30012
command failure: create failed
J:\TF101\wheelie>"nvflash.exe" -r --go
Nvflash started
[resume mode]
command failure: go failed
And for the sbkv1 version the same:
Code:
J:\TF101\wheelie>reflash_sbkv1.bat
J:\TF101\wheelie>cd J:\TF101\wheelie\
J:\TF101\wheelie>"wheelie.exe" -1 --bct transformer.bct --bl bootloader.bin --o
dm 0x300d8011
Wheelie 0.1 - Preflight for nvflash.
Copyright (c) 2011-2012 androidroot.mobi
========================================
Using SBK type 1.
Using bootloader: 'bootloader.bin'.
Using BCT: 'transformer.bct'.
----------------------------------------
[=] Chip UID: 0x305242034059367191
[-] Incorrect SBK or SBK type selected. nverror: 0x4.
J:\TF101\wheelie>"nvflash.exe" -r --bct transformer.bct --setbct --configfile fl
ash.cfg --create --odmdata 0x300d8011 --sync
Nvflash started
[resume mode]
failed executing command 11 NvError 0x30012
command failure: create failed
J:\TF101\wheelie>"nvflash.exe" -r --go
Nvflash started
[resume mode]
command failure: go failed
Am I overlooking something here?
Should I get adb working with my tablet in its current state?
Or do I have to return the tablet to ASUS?

Same problem here
Hello frydac, I'm having the same problem as you.
Did you find a way to fix it yet?