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[Q] XT926 4.4.2 Questions.

what information do we have on rooting after the 4.4.2 ota update? Also is there any information on unlocking the bootloader? I'm trying to see what other people have tried before I keep going at the same things that have failed. Also is there any information on changing the imei/flashing this? My end goal is cyanogenmod on Virgin Mobile. I've done this with other phones and I just got my hands on this one but there doesn't seem to be as much into on this as others.
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Root after 4.4.2 ota?
Unlock Boot loader after ota?
Is it flashable to virgin mobile?

Kin Kira said:
what information do we have on rooting after the 4.4.2 ota update? Also is there any information on unlocking the bootloader? I'm trying to see what other people have tried before I keep going at the same things that have failed. Also is there any information on changing the imei/flashing this? My end goal is cyanogenmod on Virgin Mobile. I've done this with other phones and I just got my hands on this one but there doesn't seem to be as much into on this as others.
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Root after 4.4.2 ota?
Unlock Boot loader after ota?
Is it flashable to virgin mobile?
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Root after 4.4.2 ota? no not yet unless your unlocked.
Unlock Boot loader after ota? no probably never.
Is it flashable to virgin mobile? maybe, not 100% sure but check out this thread by @dragonhart6505 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2389740

billycar11 said:
Root after 4.4.2 ota? no not yet unless your unlocked.
Unlock Boot loader after ota? no probably never.
Is it flashable to virgin mobile? maybe, not 100% sure but check out this thread by @dragonhart6505 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2389740
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****. So I'm holding an unrootable piece of crap? What information do we have on methods of root attempted and such. Maybe I can contribute to this I've got nothing but time.
Edit: your thread unlocks gsm support. VM would probably need me to reprovision everything and change my IMei to match a donor phone.

I've been attempting various root methods for 4.4.2 and for the RAZR in general. I've had no luck. Is there a collective of people working on this cause I'd love to contribute however I can.

root xt926 4.4.2 Solved with towelroot apk
Kin Kira said:
I've been attempting various root methods for 4.4.2 and for the RAZR in general. I've had no luck. Is there a collective of people working on this cause I'd love to contribute however I can.
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google towelroot apk click on upsidedown y to download apk and install apk on phone run it and your in business. :good::good::good::good:

juliolopez76 said:
google towelroot apk click on upsidedown y to download apk and install apk on phone run it and your in business. :good::good::good::good:
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Just as an FYI, that is called "lambda" which is a greek symbol.
Also, this works on 183.46.10 (the current KK ota that came out a few months back), but it does NOT work with the latest soak test (183.46.14), so you need to stay on 183.46.10, root with towelroot and then unlock your bootloader. If you do not do this AND if you take the soak test, you will be unable to root as a root exploit for 183.46.14 does not exist.
I don't want to say it won't ever be rooted, but as more and more exploits are patched up, it becomes harder and harder to root this phone, so your best bet is to root and unlock the bootloader on 183.46.10. Don't take the chance on whether a root exploit will be found or not. You'll save yourself, and the rest of us, a lot of headaches.
If you have already applied the 183.46.14 before rooting and unlocking your bootloader, you are SOL. There is NO way to go back to the previous version and root and unlock, so please do NOT ask how to revert back from the current soak test (183.46.14) and root and unlock your bootloader because you can't. You just can't, so don't ask.
I repeated what I just said because people always ask "well, if you flash back to 183.46.10". The problem is, the exploit that allowed unlocking of the bootloader is in a protected area that even unlocked bootloaders cannot write to without the proper encrytion keys. Once that area has been patched via the latest soak test, you have no way to write over it again because you would need the proper encryption key inside the image to flash in order for it to work. Unless Motorola becomes nice and gives you the key, it won't work. And the previous OTA's key is now invalid, so again, flashing the previous FXZ (183.46.10) will not work. It will just skip writing the protect area.
Clear as mud? Hopefully.

thats lambda....but you knew that

[Q] Downgrade KK to JB with locked bootloader (Razr XT926)?

Hi guys I have a XT926
Since my phone was updated to KK I had problems .
I wonder if you can give back to JB.
But I have not unlocked the booltoader
Since I could never unlock and less with KK
I did the Factory data Reset. but still giving me problems
Thanks for your attention

FrederickIV said:
Hi guys I have a XT926
Since my phone was updated to KK I had problems .
I wonder if you can give back to JB.
But I have not unlocked the booltoader
Since I could never unlock and less with KK
I did the Factory data Reset. but still giving me problems
Thanks for your attention
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cant be done, period.

Is it possible downgrade from KK to JB with unlocked bootloader
by the House of Moto and proper XML file?
Regards
Rafal

rafjak said:
Is it possible downgrade from KK to JB with unlocked bootloader
by the House of Moto and proper XML file?
Regards
Rafal
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Yes.
But, here's something even better. With the new Towelroot for locked bootloaders on KK, once rooted, you can then use Motopocalypse and unlock your bootloader.
Nice going, Motorola! With the KK update, someone must have pulled in the old code to allow the exploit to unlock the bootloader (that was patched as of 9.18) to work. Way too funny, but I'm sure many people out there are bowing to Motorola for this, even though I'm sure it wasn't supposed to happen like this! :silly:
So, those of you with locked bootloaders, go root RIGHT NOW and UNLOCK those bootloaders. You're warranty was voided as soon as you rooted, so what harm is there in unlocking it as well? That means when the next OTA comes out (not sure when, but it will probably be soon since I got a new email for a new soak test), it means root will definitely be broken for those with locked bootloaders. With an unlocked bootloader, you'll be able to sideload SU onto your phones when the new OTA comes out, so better to be safe than sorry.

Good to know...
iBolski said:
Yes.
But, here's something even better. With the new Towelroot for locked bootloaders on KK, once rooted, you can then use Motopocalypse and unlock your bootloader.
Nice going, Motorola! With the KK update, someone must have pulled in the old code to allow the exploit to unlock the bootloader (that was patched as of 9.18) to work. Way too funny, but I'm sure many people out there are bowing to Motorola for this, even though I'm sure it wasn't supposed to happen like this! :silly:
So, those of you with locked bootloaders, go root RIGHT NOW and UNLOCK those bootloaders. You're warranty was voided as soon as you rooted, so what harm is there in unlocking it as well? That means when the next OTA comes out (not sure when, but it will probably be soon since I got a new email for a new soak test), it means root will definitely be broken for those with locked bootloaders. With an unlocked bootloader, you'll be able to sideload SU onto your phones when the new OTA comes out, so better to be safe than sorry.
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.... but now can you tall me how to get back to JB, please?

Big Fat Droid said:
.... but now can you tall me how to get back to JB, please?
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Well, technically there is no going back.....you can use SamuriHL's HouseOfMoto...with the JB FXZ files to generate the scripts, and then use the Universal script to flash....this will flash everything EXCEPT the tz and gpt partitions, at that point you should be able to flash a JB ROM.
You cannot downgrade tz and gpt so dont waste your time trying...

Big Fat Droid said:
.... but now can you tall me how to get back to JB, please?
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use this [guide] to flash kk, root, unlock the bootloader, go back to jb, and root again. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2789743

So can i or cant i downgrade tz and gpt ?

Big Fat Droid said:
So can i or cant i downgrade tz and gpt ?
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nope never not even when unlocked.

[Q] phone wont boot after 4.4 update PLEASE HELP

This morning i finally relented and installed the 4.4 update (kitkat?) on my droid razr maxx hd. now im stuck at the red M motorola splash screen thing. is there any way i can fix this? I went to verizon and they wouldent do anything for me. I need my phone for work every day so help is greatly appreciated. i also tried the power volume down to restore factory settings or whatever but it just goes to the M screen forever. the only thing that DOES come up from those menus is ap fast boot. not sure if thats helpful or not. PS im new to this stuff so noob friendly responses please!

Were you rooted at all? Did you modify your system in any way (froze or uninstalled stock apps)? If so, that's why.
Go here to get yourself back in shape:
http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/45494-how-to-xt926-upgrade-to-kitkat-ota/

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i used a one click root method and always used voodoo ota rootkeeper other than that i havent changed anything else.
i will try this link and post back in a couple hours i have to go take care of a few things. thank you for the quick response.

KiraTheSavior said:
i used a one click root method and always used voodoo ota rootkeeper other than that i havent changed anything else
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That's your issue. You can't do an OTA after you've rooted since the OTA does a verification to ensure the system isn't modified in any way.
Go to the link I posted in my previous reply to you to get yourself updated to Kit Kat and then unlock you bootloader if you haven't since the KK update put the bootloader exploit back in.

ok
iBolski said:
That's your issue. You can't do an OTA after you've rooted since the OTA does a verification to ensure the system isn't modified in any way.
Go to the link I posted in my previous reply to you to get yourself updated to Kit Kat and then unlock you bootloader if you haven't since the KK update put the bootloader exploit back in.
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attempting it now. will post results.

it worked!
KiraTheSavior said:
attempting it now. will post results.
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it worked im on kitkat and everythings great! thank you so much for the help! it was really easy with the step by step you linked. now i think ill try rooting and unlocking, if i mess it up i can always flash it like i just did and fix it right?
could you link me to the root/unlock tutorial for my phone? sorry im noob XD

Just to be sure, you didn't update to the latest soak that just came out, correct? You are on the previous Kit Kat OTA right?
If you haven't applied the latest soak (183.46.10.XT926), then you are golden and can unlock. ONLY apply the soak update AFTER you've unlocked your bootloader.

no
iBolski said:
Just to be sure, you didn't update to the latest soak that just came out, correct? You are on the previous Kit Kat OTA right?
If you haven't applied the latest soak (183.46.10.XT926), then you are golden and can unlock. ONLY apply the soak update AFTER you've unlocked your bootloader.
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no my system information says 183.46.10 i dont know what a soak update is i just clicked install on that annoying install 4.4 update message ive had for weeks (which broke my phone) other than that i havent done anything. is my phone rootable?

KiraTheSavior said:
no my system information says 183.46.10 i dont know what a soak update is i just clicked install on that annoying install 4.4 update message ive had for weeks (which broke my phone) other than that i havent done anything. is my phone rootable?
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You should have just ignored the update until after you unlocked the phone. The link I sent you to was meant to get you updated to KK before the 183.46.10 update. The previous KK update allowed you to unlock your bootloader. Now, that is no longer possible. There is no way to downgrade to a previous version. Once the ability to unlock has been patched, you cannot go back and try to unlock it.
You can still root the phone, though. Search for towelroot and you can install that and run it to root your device.
One thing you could try is once you've rooted, try running Motopocalypse to see if it will unlock your bootloader. Either it will or it won't. It won't hurt your phone in any way or brick it.

lame...
iBolski said:
It's rootable but it's not unlockable anymore. You have lost the ability to unlock the bootloader. There is no way to downgrade to a previous version. Once the ability to unlock has been patched, you cannot go back and try to unlock it.
Search for towelroot and you can install that and run it to root your device.
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figures. thats me always a day late and a dollar short.

KiraTheSavior said:
figures. thats me always a day late and a dollar short.
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WHOA! WHOA! WHOA! My bad. You should be okay to unlock!
Please go here and attempt it -> http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/46155-rootunlock-442-182183-razr-hdm-only/
Get Towelroot and run it. This should root your phone -> http://www.towelroot.com/
Next, get the motopocalypse apk from here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53428225&postcount=22
Install and run that on your phone. That should then unlock your bootloader.
So, you are fine. I completely brain farted that the soak test hasn't been sent to everyone. It is available to download and install, but don't do it yet.
PLEASE go and unlock your phone. I'm so sorry for the confusion.
Let me know how it goes!

hotspot
KiraTheSavior said:
figures. thats me always a day late and a dollar short.
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is there a working exploit to make the mobile hotspot app work again? i always used the sqlite exploit to turn off subscription check but its still set to 0 on mine and the hotspot still wont work. im rooted by the way

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KiraTheSavior said:
is there a working exploit to make the mobile hotspot app work again? i always used the sqlite exploit to turn off subscription check but its still set to 0 on mine and the hotspot still wont work. im rooted by the way
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my system version says 183.46.10xt926 that link says its not unlockable. when i used the link in your original post to get my phone working again I automatically had this version. so i cant unlock right? ?_?

KiraTheSavior said:
my system version says 183.46.10xt926 that link says its not unlockable. when i used the link in your original post to get my phone working again I automatically had this version. so i cant unlock right? ?_?
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No, that is the version you CAN unlock. At first, it was believed it couldn't happen, but someone discovered that Moto had accidentally added the bootloader unlock exploit back in with the KK release. It's the version after that, which hasn't been released yet but will be soon, that patches the exploit back up to no allow it. The zip file for it is available outside of the soak test so it hasn't been sent to you. What you took was the OTA you do want which does allow unlocking.
Please, go unlock your phone now before the OTA is released and then you'll be forever locked.
Go here to unlock it -> http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/46155-rootunlock-442-182183-razr-hdm-only/
Do it now before you do anything else. Do NOT apply the soak test OTA (which is available via a media fire link from SamuriHL) until you've unlocked your phone.

done
Rooted and unlocked. Very happy about it. But now what? What can I get with bootloader unlocked besides revert to jb?
I still need to get my WiFi tether app to work. I'm grandfathered into unlimited data so my phone is basically my internet. Are there any cool ROMs where the WiFi just works with no tricks or work a rounds?

[Q] Should I upgrade to 183.46.15

What are the advantages.

mozz671 said:
What are the advantages.
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Advantages:
Latest security changes that include security fixes in 4.4.4 revision.
Supposedly, fixes blue-tooth issues.
Some say better battery life.
Disadvantages:
Security fixes which means Towelroot exploit is patched.
Security fixes - in original KK OTA for this phone, you could unlock the bootloader. If you take the latest update and haven't unlocked your bootloader, you will be SOL for unlocking the bootloader AND rooting the phone.
Some say battery life is worse.
Some say blue-tooth isn't fixed.

I'm trying to help my buddy root his Razr Maxx HD, but he already took the 182.46.15 update, which breaks Towelroot. Is there a way to flash back to 182.46.10 so he can use Towelroot & unlock the bootloader?

boothroyd917 said:
I'm trying to help my buddy root his Razr Maxx HD, but he already took the 182.46.15 update, which breaks Towelroot. Is there a way to flash back to 182.46.10 so he can use Towelroot & unlock the bootloader?
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No. Once he took the 183.46.15 update, the trusted partitions that would have allowed you to unlock the bootloader were overwritten and there is NO way, repeat, NO way to revert back to the previous version. It won't allow writing to those trusted zones with older versions. There is NO way to fool it due to checksums, so don't try or ask. It's been asked thousands of times all with the same answer.

iBolski said:
No. Once he took the 183.46.15 update, the trusted partitions that would have allowed you to unlock the bootloader were overwritten and there is NO way, repeat, NO way to revert back to the previous version. It won't allow writing to those trusted zones with older versions. There is NO way to fool it due to checksums, so don't try or ask. It's been asked thousands of times all with the same answer.
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Can you not use the method of unlocking the boot loader found on motorola's website to unlock and root?
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-b

jwdink said:
Can you not use the method of unlocking the boot loader found on motorola's website to unlock and root?
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-b
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No. As I said, there is NO way to unlock it, legally or illegally.
The unlock tool on Moto's site is for a select set of phones. The XT926 is not one of them.
Face it. There is NO way to unlock the bootloader now that it's on 183.46.15. That option is gone. I don't know how much more I can stress that fact.

root 183.46.15 version of KitKat 4.4.2
boothroyd917 said:
I'm trying to help my buddy root his Razr Maxx HD, but he already took the 182.46.15 update, which breaks Towelroot. Is there a way to flash back to 182.46.10 so he can use Towelroot & unlock the bootloader?
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Yes, there is a method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/xda-assist/method-to-downgrade-root-183-46-15-t3051019

ciprianv. said:
Yes, there is a method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/xda-assist/method-to-downgrade-root-183-46-15-t3051019
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No, you cannot unlock .15 yet.

Thos method only works for unlocked bootloader. This was made up for phones already unlocked which have lost root access after an firmware upgrade.
Sent from my DROID RAZR HD using XDA Free mobile app

Can't unlock bootloader

Hi all,
I'm trying to get the unlock token at htcdev and I keep getting this message after I submit the copied txt from the fastboot result.
"Error code: 172. Error reason: CID not allowed (MID not exist in model rule)."
PLEASE... any help would be most appreciated.
System info:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/2wrw5rjia39a43l,7tbtdftnp8goph8,1e1h80ub7q1bhq8/shared

Assuming you're in the right forums (Verizon HTC M8), you can't use HTCdev to unlock the phone. Thee only way to unlock the Verizon version of the phone is through a 3rd party unlock method, that was created by jcase and his team, called Sunshine. Here's their website for thee unlock: http://theroot.ninja/

Hi… Thanks for the speedy reply.
That's my my second dilemma. Root is a requirement and towel root isn't working either. So, I'm running in circles. I can't use Sunshine to unlock the bootloader because its not rooted and I can't root it because I can't unlock the bootloader.

RuLEoF2 said:
Hi all,
I'm trying to get the unlock token at htcdev and I keep getting this message after I submit the copied txt from the fastboot result.
"Error code: 172. Error reason: CID not allowed (MID not exist in model rule)."
PLEASE... any help would be most appreciated.
System info:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/2wrw5rjia39a43l,7tbtdftnp8goph8,1e1h80ub7q1bhq8/shared
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You cannot unlock you're boot loader. You have vzw 4.4.4 firmware. Sunshine doesn't work on that yet. You are S.O.L. until they update.
Sorry.

Does it work on 4.4.3?
I'm only asking because I've having an issue with my screen and I was planning on taking it back to exchange it. When I got this one, it had 4.4.3 on it and then I got the 4.4.4 OTA. it's a gamble, but if the new phone still has 4.4.3 on it, then I can just dodged the OTA and try sunshine on that one.

RuLEoF2 said:
Hi… Thanks for the speedy reply.
That's my my second dilemma. Root is a requirement and towel root isn't working either. So, I running in circles. I can't use Sunshine to unlock the bootloader because its not rooted and I can't root it because I can't unlock the bootloader.
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Sunshine does everything. Except if your phone is up to date, you can't do anything cause nothing works for the 4.4.4 vzw m8

RuLEoF2 said:
Hi… Thanks for the speedy reply.
That's my my second dilemma. Root is a requirement and towel root isn't working either. So, I'm running in circles. I can't use Sunshine to unlock the bootloader because its not rooted and I can't root it because I can't unlock the bootloader.
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silver04v said:
Sunshine does everything. Except if your phone is up to date, you can't do anything cause nothing works for the 4.4.4 vzw m8
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RuLEoF2 said:
Does it work on 4.4.3?
I'm only asking because I've having an issue with my screen and I was planning on taking it back to exchange it. When I got this one, it had 4.4.3 on it and then I got the 4.4.4 OTA. it's a gamble, but if the new phone still has 4.4.3 on it, then I can just dodged the OTA and try sunshine on that one.
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Ok. So, does sunshine work on 4.4.3?
In any case, the sunshie web page says that root is required but I can't root it.

Root is required and yes it will work on 4.4.3. Sunshine has a temp root utility built in to the program so it is all in one system.

RuLEoF2 said:
Hi… Thanks for the speedy reply.
That's my my second dilemma. Root is a requirement and towel root isn't working either. So, I'm running in circles. I can't use Sunshine to unlock the bootloader because its not rooted and I can't root it because I can't unlock the bootloader.
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zax10 said:
Root is required and yes it will work on 4.4.3. Sunshine has a temp root utility built in to the program so it is all in one system.
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Very good. Thank you for the clarification.

RuLEoF2 said:
Very good. Thank you for the clarification.
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1 more thing to clarify, I have a Verizon M7, and TowelRoot DOES work, there's just a hidden trick for our phones.... Tap the welcome/ intro msg that appears when u open the towelroot app (i believe I had to tap 3 times) and a string of numbers appears , u change the last number from a 0 to a 1 and then it works for our phones. It's not needed for sunshine, but for ppl who wanna take the shortcut after sunshine of just downloading and using flashify to flash recovery (root or temp root required) it works. It was Towelroot V3 I believe. I'm on 4.4.3 sense 6 m7, and I know it worked on 4.4.2 when everyone was saying it didn't work, so if it's something u wanna look into, give it a try. Even the website I believe said it didn't"officially" support our phones, but after doing that trick, it does

bdizzle1686 said:
1 more thing to clarify, I have a Verizon M7, and TowelRoot DOES work, there's just a hidden trick for our phones.... Tap the welcome/ intro msg that appears when u open the towelroot app (i believe I had to tap 3 times) and a string of numbers appears , u change the last number from a 0 to a 1 and then it works for our phones. It's not needed for sunshine, but for ppl who wanna take the shortcut after sunshine of just downloading and using flashify to flash recovery (root or temp root required) it works. It was Towelroot V3 I believe. I'm on 4.4.3 sense 6 m7, and I know it worked on 4.4.2 when everyone was saying it didn't work, so if it's something u wanna look into, give it a try. Even the website I believe said it didn't"officially" support our phones, but after doing that trick, it does
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Sounds risky.

RuLEoF2 said:
Sounds risky.
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Wrong phone too. I would stick to sunshine. Cost $$ but comes with support if needed.

The Stig 04 said:
Wrong phone too. I would stick to sunshine. Cost $$ but comes with support if needed.
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Good point.
bdizzle1686, thanks for the tip but I think I'll wait.

RuLEoF2 said:
Good point.
bdizzle1686, thanks for the tip but I think I'll wait.
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Not a problem, and yeah it probably does pose some risks, just figured I'd let ya know. Alotta ppl just see that the app doesn't"officially" support any of the htc one phones and take that as fact when it's really not true. I did it with my phone n haven't had a problem, but had I known at the time the risks of doing it that way pose, I probably wouldn't have done it that way

Ok… please forgive my frustration but can someone please explain to me how rooting this phone works… or doesn't work.
I rooted my HTC Incredible and my Rezound with ease. I got pretty comfortable with adb so I went on flashing roms and other mods. They were so easy but now everything seems to be so complicated with this phone.
I'm going nuts trying to understand these confusing threads where it sounds like you need to root the phone in order to root the phone. Even though they don't work, I see instructions to use firewater, towelroot or weaksause so that you can use sunshine. I read where someone was asking for help because sunshine wouldn't work and they couldn't figure it out because the phone was already unlocked, rooted and s-off. ,isn't that what sunshine does… unlock, root and s-off?
My HTC One M8 is bone stock, off-the-shelf with kitkat 4.4.4.
What do I need to use sunshine, now with 2.7.1 or later with 3.0?
Can I use an RUU to downgrade to 4.4.3 so that sunshine 2.7.1 will work?
Is sunshine REALLY the only way that works… or doesn't work (right now)?
Thank you in advance for your help and your patience.

RuLEoF2 said:
Ok… please forgive my frustration but can someone please explain to me how rooting this phone works… or doesn't work.
I rooted my HTC Incredible and my Rezound with ease. I got pretty comfortable with adb so I went on flashing roms and other mods. They were so easy but now everything seems to be so complicated with this phone.
I'm going nuts trying to understand these confusing threads where it sounds like you need to root the phone in order to root the phone. Even though they don't work, I see instructions to use firewater, towelroot or weaksause so that you can use sunshine. I read where someone was asking for help because sunshine wouldn't work and they couldn't figure it out because the phone was already unlocked, rooted and s-off. ,isn't that what sunshine does… unlock, root and s-off?
My HTC One M8 is bone stock, off-the-shelf with kitkat 4.4.4.
What do I need to use sunshine, now with 2.7.1 or later with 3.0?
Can I use an RUU to downgrade to 4.4.3 so that sunshine 2.7.1 will work?
Is sunshine REALLY the only way that works… or doesn't work (right now)?
Thank you in advance for your help and your patience.
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If you're bone stock S-ON with 4.4.4 then you cannot root the phone yet. Probably won't be able to till early January when the new sunshine is released.
If you're bone stock S-OFF on 4.4.4 all you need to do is flash a custom recovery and then flash the latest SuperSU zip file.

RuLEoF2 said:
Ok… please forgive my frustration but can someone please explain to me how rooting this phone works… or doesn't work.
I rooted my HTC Incredible and my Rezound with ease. I got pretty comfortable with adb so I went on flashing roms and other mods. They were so easy but now everything seems to be so complicated with this phone.
I'm going nuts trying to understand these confusing threads where it sounds like you need to root the phone in order to root the phone. Even though they don't work, I see instructions to use firewater, towelroot or weaksause so that you can use sunshine. I read where someone was asking for help because sunshine wouldn't work and they couldn't figure it out because the phone was already unlocked, rooted and s-off. ,isn't that what sunshine does… unlock, root and s-off?
My HTC One M8 is bone stock, off-the-shelf with kitkat 4.4.4.
What do I need to use sunshine, now with 2.7.1 or later with 3.0?
Can I use an RUU to downgrade to 4.4.3 so that sunshine 2.7.1 will work?
Is sunshine REALLY the only way that works… or doesn't work (right now)?
Thank you in advance for your help and your patience.
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.... and to ease your confusion: What a lot of people get mixed up is
temp root with weaksauce + firewater worked for some devices on 4.4.2 (hardware variants making the difference).
For those 4.4.2 weaksauce+firewater did not work and all 4.4.3 M8s there's only Sunshine (and it temp-roots the device in the process)
4.4.4: beaups announced they are shooting for a first week of January release for Sunshine 3
And no, you cannot downgrade to 4.3 with S-on.

Time to try your luck with the new weaksauce and sunshine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...ncluding-4-t2971591/post57462117#post57462117

dottat said:
Time to try your luck with the new weaksauce and sunshine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...ncluding-4-t2971591/post57462117#post57462117
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That worked! Bootloader is now UNLOCKED and S-OFF. Thank you!! I must have had the earlier version of weaksause.
Still no root though. SuperSU keeps failing when I try to update the binary online and my desktop is out of commision so no recovery yet either. I've got a new desktop on the way which should be here by the end of the week.
Is there anything I can try in the meantime?

RuLEoF2 said:
That worked! Bootloader is now UNLOCKED and S-OFF. Thank you!! I must have had the earlier version of weaksause.
Still no root though. SuperSU keeps failing when I try to update the binary online and my desktop is out of commision so no recovery yet either. I've got a new desktop on the way which should be here by the end of the week.
Is there anything I can try in the meantime?
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You can download from the play store the app called flashify to put a custom recovery on since no CPU right now u said, then you can download thesuperSU.zip llatest from XDA and flash it in said custom recovery. That should get you rooted.