I tried to use libgdx and found out the its not user friendly at all. very complicated framework with no support at all.
I want to write games, that the highest level is AngryBirgds. (I'll start from something much simple).
what framework would you recommend?
what do you think about Xamarin?
p.s
I'm looking for a free framework that I can publish on Google Play
What you didn't like about libGDX? It has great documentation and a friendly community. After trying a simple game tutorial on their wiki the framework doesn't seem at all complicated.
A great benefit to it is a desktop version for really fast testing or even releasing — Spine 2d skeletal animation tool was made by one of main libGDX developers using libGDX.
Also i tried to release the iOS version of the game with libGDX, which successfully got in AppStore.
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I tried to use libgdx and found out the its not user friendly at all. very complicated framework with no support at all.
I want to write games, that the highest level is AngryBirgds. (I'll start from something much simple).
what framework would you recommend?
what do you think about Xamarin?
p.s
I'm looking for a free framework that I can publish on Google Play
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Hi,
I am not familiar with Xamrin but familiar with phoneGap. I worked in mobilepundits which offers PhoneGap mobile app development company. In the company I used this tool for mobile app development. According to this tool is really easy to use which enable you to build mobile apps even you are not friendly with it.
PhoneGap is one of the best framework for cross platform mobile applications development. It is a free tool which can be used easily. In conclusion if your app can work with more than one platform then you must use the PhoneGap.
I don't think PhoneGap and Xamarin are good choice if you want to make games. Both are good frameworks for making Apps, but if you really want to dive deep into game development you need to use a game engine, which solves a lot more tasks specific for game development.
If you want some higher-level and more user friendly framework then you definitely should try Unity.
If you want more control or just like to work on a lower level and at least a little familiar with C++, then I'd suggest you to try Cocos2D-x.
If you have a Mac, plan to support iOS, and not afraid of Objective-C or the new Swift programming language, then take a look at Cocos2D-Swift (aka Cocos2D-iPhone). Despite the name you can use it to create games for both iOS and Android (via Apportable).
There are other good game engines. But I've only worked with those three I've mentioned (and even wrote a book about Cocos2D-Swift and several tutorials on Unity).
Framework for Cross-Platform: Corona and Titanium
My vote for cross platform framework goes to Corona and Titanium. If you are developing a native app then Titanium is the best option. Titanium is best for developing a normal application. Titanium framework offers a wide range of native functionality and works perfectly with platforms like iOS and Android. If you are developing a game related application then go with Corona.
Try Unity3d its has a free version. If you want check my games in my signature, they are both made in Unity for Android and iOS.
If you would like to create a 2D cross-platform game the best engine is cocos2d-x.
In this platform you can use C++ or LUA.
Also there is a great community and it is open source. So, you can add own modules and fixes to repository.
But if you would like to create a 3D game or smth like this, the best framework is Unity.
I definitely recommend you the Cocos2d-x to give it a try.
Cocos2d-x allows you to write games in C++, Lua and Javascript. Moreover you can deploy games for variety of platforms: Windows Phone, Android, iOS, Windows Desktop, Linux, Blackberry, MacOS and Browser!
Yesterday they announced new Cocos brand which simplyfies many things and makes it more friendly
URL: www.cocos.com & www.cocos2d-x.com
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I've been using Unity and it's working well so far. They have a large dev community. There's also an asset store where you can grab/buy plug-ins or assets to save time.
What about Marmalade?
I am working on such solution => gl.aexol.com/product
1 code = deployment to Android, iOS, Mac, Windows & Linux
It's called AexolGL - you can download for free beta web engine and you would be notified about Mobile + PC version launch.
Regards.
You can use Qt for Android, iOS, and other platforms.
Hey, Libgdx is good, just that startup time is bit high as not very friendly. I worked on it and it helps you understand basic concepts. Can be used with Java and RoboVM integration is easy which helps you make it cross platform.
Xamarin is good, it will help you create app for iOs and android. Never used it though.
Unity is one good game engine which can be used. It is very user friendly. Lot of assets and code can be bought from Unity asset store.
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I tried to use libgdx and found out the its not user friendly at all. very complicated framework with no support at all.
I want to write games, that the highest level is AngryBirgds. (I'll start from something much simple).
what framework would you recommend?
what do you think about Xamarin?
p.s
I'm looking for a free framework that I can publish on Google Play
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Hey, Libgdx is good, just that startup time is bit high as not very friendly. I worked on it and it helps you understand basic concepts. Can be used with Java and RoboVM integration is easy which helps you make it cross platform.
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I've been a fan of libgdx for a while.. Perhaps check out one of the first editors for it overlap2d*dot*com (hah, still need to hit 10 posts). Also they have a great blog that describes using the editor to make a physics based platformer.
libGdx and Cocos2D
Hi!
Really I don't know why libGdx is not user friendly. A few weeks ago I made a research about best cross-platform frameworks. I start with Unity3D, It's really friendly, but, it not free for comercial use and it is much powerful for my small tasks. In result I have to favorite: libGdx and Cocos2D. The first one using Java and more like Unity3D/Xamarin/MonoGame. Cocos2D use C++, and you can work in Visual Studio with it. But, for me Hello World application on Cocos was more difficult than in libGdx.
And there is not only my imho, I have been read many the same posts on other forums about libGdx and Cocos2D.
If you have no preference between Java and C++ better start with Java and libGdx.
Hi,
It actually depend about your langage skills and what kind of game you want to develop.
Unity is very goo, and you can develop a game without coding, but you have to pay to use it, and some plugin like iap, gamecenter, ads is also expensive.
Libgdx also very good but may be hard for new developer.
I currently use openfl for 2d games which is totally free. The language is close to the flash and there are many tutorial to learn. Moreover, the plugin for pub ipa, game center are available and free. The commuty is nice , but the langage is probably not adapt for 3d development.
I've just ported my game Space Shooter X from Windows Phone to Android using Xamarin. I've shared my experience in a blog post. Here's the link http://www.borneomobile.com/2015/03...-from-windows-phone-to-android-using-xamarin/
libgdx vs unity
Hi,
I'm new to game development (i started some month ago), but i made some research.
From what i could understand, the right game engine for you vary much on your purposes.
I choose libgdx, due to the considerations i made.
-Unity:
said to be very user friendly, and a lot faster in developing games (it hides a lot of things). If your purpose is to develop new games fast, it can be good.
Cons: it has 2 versions: personal and professional. You have their splash screen or pay. From their site: unity3d com/get-unity
Personal: "Deployment to all platforms included with the Personal Edition splash screen."
Professional: "Unity 5 Professional customers who earned/received more than $100,000 in revenue/funding in the previous fiscal year must purchase iOS Pro and/or Android Pro deployment add-ons to deploy to these platforms. The iOS and Android Pro add-ons enable deployment without the Personal Edition splash screen."
-LibGDX:
it gives you a lot of control to everything, so you can really do what you want. After a period, and following some tutorial, it seems good and not so hard. You can develop for Desktop, android, ios and web.
If your purpose is to understand how a game works, this is good. Also, it is totally free, and its performance are the best.
Cons: It is a little unfriendly at the beginning.
I've been trying LibGDX and Unity.
If you haven't created a game before, you should start with LibGDX or native, just to understand how things works.
If you created a game before, you could take a look at Unity, it shorten a lot Development time and it's a things you should be aware of if you want to make your game rentable.
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Hey Guys,
I wanted to devolp my first Game under Android but,
But I don't exactly knew in which language i should programming it,
basicly it should be a 2D sidescrolling Hack'n Slay like Maple Stirues, so i think C++ and Java (for the controls) would be great, or?
Go for Java. However, if you're considering producing (iPad) web apps it may be advantageous to get to grips with HTML5.0 and XHTML.
Ok it should be for android, so it will be Java, do you know with what i should start first, when i want to prgramming a Game in Java? Maybe the Javabesics?
read the book Core Java, then understand the way android apps working, maybe read some kinds like head first android or other things.
I have a strong background of 6 years in Java, I cannot find the book I used my freshman year of college for Java but I have read Head First in Java. It was really nice. Every book will have downfalls because everyone has a different learning perspective. Some people can mentally grasp how certain things work, some people need visualization.
For developing on Android, I recommend purchasing the book Hello, Android. I have found this book to be very nice in creating your first android application. In the first few chapters, you will create a fully working Sudoku Game. It also has some small stuff on Widgets and Live Wallpapers.
Hope these help, best of luck!
What Would a Basic Game Framework Contain? Like The Interfaces And Classes?
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Tripplemin
That really depends on the game you're planing to make. Some games are no more than a dumbed down web browser and much of the play experience is nothing more than a mobile website with fancy pictures that 'hide' the fact that all the user is doing is hitting a glorified refresh button. Others are a bit more complex as they involve persistent tracking of events and rendering multiple layers and/or 3d canvases or objects. To further complicate things android can handle a bunch of languages and thus making a template for game creation that is definitive in detail would be rather difficult. Instead I would suggest trying out some packages that load custom or default templates for app and game creation. To list a few that work on Linux and Windows And if your willing to go through the process of installing one of those onto android then you can also use these there as well:
jMonkey - its very friendly, open source, well documented, made to make games for any java enabled device or computer. Best of all I can confirm that it can be made to be mobile so no pc required to develop apps or games; just debian kit, a linux distro and installing the java development tool kit before installing jMonkey it's self, just be sure to go to help and then to update within jMonkey right after your first opening from a fresh install to fix any bugs or error messages.
Blinder - steep learning curve, lots of tutorials out there for it, made to make games in a variety of formats and consoles or devices, works on Windows and Linux and I've yet to test whether or not it can run on an android linux hybrid environment. There are metric crap tons of content out there for building and predestined templates so hope you've a big hard drive.
I may edit this to add more as I rediscover them. Mostly I would suggest sitting down with a development tool kit and a program that handles the nitty gritty of setup and compiling so that you can get to the real task of making something new
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All game engines should be able to handle game logic, user-input and graphics. Everything else depends on what you want to do with it. If you are planning to design a 2D game for mobile I recommend you to take a look at Corona SDK. Unity is the market leading game engine in 3D games for mobile and it works on PC/Mac/Chrome also.
Unity3d. Very simple and useful for beginners.
AndEngine is also a good option.
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AndEngine is also a good option.
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Yes, very good thing!
LibGDX is much much better than AndEngine.
+1 for AndEngine
Vouch for AndEngine, but be aware, that is has NO documentation - instead it has really rich examples project, and helpful community. At beginning its bit hard to understand everything, but as always, no pain no gain. If you need help, you might check my blog about andengine, it has over 80 articles, covering a lot of subjects - since I am new member, and can not share links yet, for reference you can type matim development tutorials in google.
You should try LibGDX. It has tons of features and is, imo, easier to use than AndEngine.
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If you need an easy framework to learn basic staffs in android game dav AndEngine can be your choise. It simple and easy to understand with alot of examples.
But if you want to create games\making money you should think about crossplatform engine, and unity 3d should be definitely your choise.
Give monogame a shot, it's essentially a cross platform, open source port of XNA. Or try out some javascript libraries(impact.js, TreSensa SDK, etc.), considering there are so many cross platform tools for HTML5/CSS3/Javascript that compile your code to native langs.
If you need an easy framework to learn basic staffs in android game dav AndEngine can be your choise. It simple and easy to understand with alot of examples.
But if you want to create games\making money you should think about crossplatform engine, and unity 3d should be definitely your choise.
LibGDX is pretty decent if you wanna go open source + java, but MonoGame + C# is a more pleasant development experience (tools-wise, mostly)
+1 for LibGDX, recently I also got interested by Corona - which looks relatively simple
Despite the lack of proper documentation, :good: AndEngine is a great choice. I admit that it's hard to find the solution for a specific problem. Stackoverflow will only give you hints, they rarely have accepted solutions for your problems, but the andengine forums are great.
It's a free engine and good for your first app. A lot easier than handling OpenGL yourself.
Libgdx is a great help
Yes Libgdx is quite useful tool for developing android applications. But since there is very less resources on internet about it, it is little difficult to learn. I had developed a android game called Guess The Brand in Libgdx some time ago, it is very well organized and takes care of lots of tedious thing we need to do in android application development.
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Unity3d is best for me.
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Another +1 for LibGDX - I'm currently using it to develop my current game and it's quite flexible.
I did some research into AndEngine before deciding on LibGDX and I believe it was the right choice. AndEngine has less documentation and feels "slower" overall.
Another possible option is to look into Unity - not long ago they made their product free to use. I hear Unity is a good way to very quickly get a game up and running - might even give it a go next time!
Which Cross Platform mobile app development tools should i choose for mobile app development
Try Unity 3D. It offers much possibilities and you can find much ressources.
Super Wilmer
We've been looking at porting to libGDX which is java based, and can port to iOS and HTML5, since our game Super Wilmer is java based makes the most sense. But I've also been reviewing unity, C# scripting, very visual comes with a large bag of goodies. We are a small 2 man Indie team, that build games outside of our full time jobs, so are looking to cut down our development time, so perhaps we start looking at this Unity.
I think Corona also crossbuilds.
Anyone use coco2dx ??
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Which Cross Platform mobile app development tools should i choose for mobile app development
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I use Corona for a year now, and its quite good. Its main for game development, but i created some nice apps with it.
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I use cocos2d-x It is quite good if you're not afraid of C++ and want to make a really cross-platform game.
Cocos2d is great use it.
I use cocos2d-x it is awesome and with a bit of searching on their site you find an awesome documemtation
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As a user of unity since version 4.1.2, I can definitely recomend you this engine. Among other great features, cross platform development is the killer one - if you aim to be on many platforms (and I'm sure, sooner or later you'll want to), you can save huge amount of time with it.
Cross Platform mobile app development tools
Here are a few to consider:
Codename One - This is a great option if you’re a Java programmer and need native performance. Use almost any IDE you want.
Kony Mobility Platform - claims that is “supports the entire application software development lifecycle (SDLC) and enables organizations to go from idea to omni-channel app in just a few.” Has pre-built apps that will really help you get started but documentation might be a problem.
Sencha touch - is a great choice if you need more than 50 built-in, high-performance UI widgets like lists, carousels, forms, menus, toolbars etc.
These are just three option out of many, so definitely continue to do your research and see which is best suited to your particular needs and project.
Xamarin
You should use Xamarin for your mobile application development project.
Hi Guys,
In order to work on cross-platform application efficiently, there are some tools used and I will be mentioning top tools here that can work on multiple platforms like Windows, iOS, and Android:
• Xamarin
• Titanium
• Apache Cordova
• Respond Native
• Ionic
It is a very difficult task to select the best tools for our mobile apps because all tools have different features with pros & cons. Select best cross-platform tools according to your requirement. For more information about Cross-platform tools, you can visit us website Frugalnova.com
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Shanu Bhattacharya
It really depends on what you want to do but you can also consider Qt if you're good at C++.
It's a great framework with lots of features and generates codes for android, ios, windows, mac os and linux.
I vote for Xamarin Forms. If you know C# it's best.
Best Cross-Platform App Development Tools
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Which Cross Platform mobile app development tools should i choose for mobile app development
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Here are some best cross-platform app development tools:
1. Adobe
2. Appcelerator
3. iFactr
4. FeedHenry
5. Sencha
Best mobile app development tools
Best mobile app development tools that you must try;
Flutter
Xamarin
Ionic
Suitable tools for your app
It is very hard question for mobile app developers to reply. But As a mobile app developer and as per my personal work experience, I suggest you to use Xamarin and NativeScript tools for cross platform mobile app development. These are popular and it has very special features too. :angel:
cross platform mobile app development tools
according to me Xamarin is a popular cross-platform mobile app development tool that provides app store delivery, performance testing, Virtual testing, and monitoring. Efficiently used to design native apps for multiple platforms. Developers can use the same IDE, APIs, and language. You can also use corona for app development. if any one else have better idea please let me know?
Hey,
I'm a developer and I want to start with app development. No games, just productivity stuff. Without experience, I would tend to native apps, because you can use all api's, designs etc. I think cross platform frameworks is just a hype like java for web. HTML and CSS are the best choice for web and nobody is talking about java in web-dev. Now, I have a feeling that you're trying to use this technology in Apps because html5 and css3 a fancy. But this is just my opinion and maybe I'm wrong. As I mentioned, I do not have any experience in app-dev. Therefore, I want to ask you, because you have the experience.
Are cross platform frameworks a great choice to develop apps for iOS, Android and Windows 10 (Mobile)? Is it really time saving and do I have the same or similar possibilities? Or is it better to maintain three different platforms? Maybe the time effort isn't so much higher. I don't know. How high is it? Should I start with a cross platform framework and switch later to native apps, or is it better to start with native apps?
I hope you can share your experience with me. It is also great if you link something that reflects your opinion.
Thanks
neon
"nobody is talking about java in web-dev"
Not true Many pages and server side app are created in java. JEE, JSF etc. Problem is hosting for page. Hosting for PHP is cheaper and more popular. That is why PHP is more popular than Java in web-dev.
Anyway, in mobile platform, in my opion, better way is native apps. Cross platform frameworks are great, but only for some of the types application. Most applications can be made faster and look prettier if they are native. Many things is hard when you use crossplatform, and sometimes development takes longer. Much depends on type of application and requirements. Of course it's only my opinion. Many people think differently.
It depends. First of all it is important to know which API or librarys you want to use. If you have some intensive tasks or calculations you should go with native apps because they are often much faster then hybrid-apps written in JavaScript. If you don't have much intensive tasks and you have a completely new idea and want to make money with it you shoud go with hybrid-apps because it is a huge plus to have an App for Android AND iOS.
Thanks for you responses.
@Asmok78
You are right. PHP is more popular because it is cheaper.
Asmok78 wrote that most applications can be made faster and it depends an the application. spcialx wrote something equal. So, as an example, all my ideas are based on a client server architecture where users can sync there local data with a server to work collaborativ. As an example it could be an app for all three platform (iOS, Android and Windows 10(Mobile)). A user can manage a tasklist and share tasks with other users, or you have a project and one user can assign tasks to other users.
I guess it will be faster to get a first working app with a crossplatform framework. But I also guess, that in the long run it will be better to dev native apps. So why not start directly with native apps?
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I guess it will be faster to get a first working app with a crossplatform framework. But I also guess, that in the long run it will be better to dev native apps. So why not start directly with native apps?
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Your assumption is completely right.
I'm working on a hybrid app right now. While it can be tempting, as soon as you get out of common features and patterns you can run into all sorts of problems and I found some quite hard to debug and solve. In the end I've busted all my deadlines. Performance are just OK for most uses, but still not comparable to native. All in all it depends on what you are trying to do, cross-platform apps might be ok for some use cases, but native apps are well worth the extra effort.
I think you should go native for apps. But not for games.
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Android NDK is there for performance reasons. If you plan to create something serious, then dedicated development cycles for each platform may be the obvious choice.
with web app, you can create app with nice and easy ui, can communicate with system api via plugin but sometime you need custom there control, and you need experience with native app , if it basic, you can do with only web app.
hybrid app is slower than native, only for small app.
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"nobody is talking about java in web-dev"
Not true Many pages and server side app are created in java. JEE, JSF etc. Problem is hosting for page. Hosting for PHP is cheaper and more popular. That is why PHP is more popular than Java in web-dev.
Anyway, in mobile platform, in my opion, better way is native apps. Cross platform frameworks are great, but only for some of the types application. Most applications can be made faster and look prettier if they are native. Many things is hard when you use crossplatform, and sometimes development takes longer. Much depends on type of application and requirements. Of course it's only my opinion. Many people think differently.
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Yep, I'm a java web guy. Tomcat, Struts 2 and JSP for me (though I'm slowly switching to Spring instead of Struts). The sheer power of Java, the stuff you can do, vs PHP (disclaimer: I coded PHP for 10 years professionally and now hate it, especially with the advent of Wordpress and Drupal) is absolutely staggering. Add to that a tonne of amazing libraries one can just plug straight in and you get a really useful bit of kit. Sorry, off-topic.
So yeah native is best. I work on a timesheeting/expenses solution for big mobile telcos in the UK and we looked at some cross-platform solutions at first, with Xamarin getting a decent run out but in the end we concluded it just wouldn't do the job, and went native. The issue really was that you'd end up with an app that wasn't quite right on either platform, and had to really write some nasty hacky stuff to make anything that took advantage of the advantages or preferred style of a particular platform. It just wasn't worth the effort in the end.
With Unity3d you can build for like 20 platforms.
Cross-Platform vs Native | Development Tools
1. Native apps are usually developed to work on a single mobile platform by using the native programming language mainly used for user interactions.
2. Cross platform requires different platforms for development are used for PhoneGap, Titanium, and Xamarin by using HTML and JavaScript mainly used for iOS, windows, and Android.
"no one is discussing java in web-dev"
Not genuine Many pages and server side application are made in java. JEE, JSF and so on. Issue is facilitating for page. Facilitating for PHP is less expensive and more mainstream. That is the reason PHP is more well known than Java in web-dev.
Anyway, in portable stage, in my opion, better way is local applications. Cross stage systems are incredible, yet just for a portion of the sorts application. Most applications can be made quicker and look prettier on the off chance that they are local. Numerous things is hard when you utilize crossplatform, and infrequently improvement takes longer. Much relies on upon kind of utilization and necessities. Obviously it's lone my sentiment. Numerous individuals think in an unexpected way.
whats the end goal/how big is your buget?
for example: business apps, they're not that heavy on interactions/animations - you may be better off with cross platform as it will generally cost less to create it that way
if heavy on interactions/animations: native would be a better choice and may cost more because it may be developed for multiple platforms, which in turn would make it more expensive.
Hi,
If you ask me I will go with the cross platform if I'm building the app from scratch as it's easier to make any changes and most importantly saves a lot of time.
Hi all!
I am excited to share a project I have been personally working on for a few years now. I call it Pine, and it is a new cross platform framework for developing apps for Android, iOS, Windows and Mac. It is a modification and extension of the LibGDX game framework, so apps are written in Java, hardware rendered, and extremely fast and smooth. Pine will be released open-source under the Apache 2.0 licence, and it only needs a few more months work before it can be released.
I would be extremely grateful if people could please support this project, more details about how it works and some of the things it can do, including demo apps for Android and Windows, are available on my kickstarter campaign.
I can't post URL's due to being a new user, but if you google "Pine Cross Platform Framework" you will find it.
I have tried posting this around on a few forums but people report it as a scam. Please, if you feel like it may be a scam, just check out the demos. My Android app at least is only available on the official Play Store. Also, there are certain things in the demos that prove the apps are built using this new framework. For example my 'Perspective Group', which allows rendering all 2D elements in 3D. This can be seen on the 'Videos' page - with a video playing while it spins in 3D, and the 'Fun Layout Example' page - which demonstrates an interactive 3D carousel. These things can't be done natively, and I don't think any other cross platform frameworks can do it either.
Thanks guys, and I hope you like it!
All the best,
Graham