I am using a stock rooted rom and recently began to experience issue with sending and receiving text messages. I use Handcent SMS and have the stock messaging app frozen and for some reason the messages look like they've been sent but they actually haven't been. For some reason this only happens when I am at home and the cell reception isn't the best but it's good enough where I should be able to send receive texts. When they do happen to go through, I'll receive like 20 texts at the same time but the people had sent them hours before. I have looked for settings within Handcent and haven't been able to find anything.
Does anyone know how I can fix this issue?
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I am using a stock rooted rom and recently began to experience issue with sending and receiving text messages. I use Handcent SMS and have the stock messaging app frozen and for some reason the messages look like they've been sent but they actually haven't been. For some reason this only happens when I am at home and the cell reception isn't the best but it's good enough where I should be able to send receive texts. When they do happen to go through, I'll receive like 20 texts at the same time but the people had sent them hours before. I have looked for settings within Handcent and haven't been able to find anything.
Does anyone know how I can fix this issue?
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Did you always freeze the stock messaging app? I used handcent on my droid incredible, but I haven't used it since because the stock and AOSP messaging apps have gotten much better.
I know that handcent used to rely on the stock messaging app for messages to pass through. Try defrosting it and simply turn off message notifications, then you won't even notice it running.
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Did you always freeze the stock messaging app? I used handcent on my droid incredible, but I haven't used it since because the stock and AOSP messaging apps have gotten much better.
I know that handcent used to rely on the stock messaging app for messages to pass through. Try defrosting it and simply turn off message notifications, then you won't even notice it running.
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I've had the stock app frozen for almost a year and until recently everything worked fine. Handcent now has an option to choose what app you want to handle the default actions for messaging. I get a message that pops up saying the service is unavailable right now and the message will be sent when the service becomes available. I'm not sure if that is coming from Handcent or the phone.
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I've had the stock app frozen for almost a year and until recently everything worked fine. Handcent now has an option to choose what app you want to handle the default actions for messaging. I get a message that pops up saying the service is unavailable right now and the message will be sent when the service becomes available. I'm not sure if that is coming from Handcent or the phone.
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The only thing I can think of is mobile data signal. I recently went from the vrblk3 modem to the vrbmb1 firmware and I'm noticing a big increase in my signal strength pretty much everywhere I go.
Since it only happens in your house, it sounds like you just aren't getting a good enough signal, or the data your phone says is being sent actually is getting hung up on verizon's end. I would try a different firmware package and see what happens, just don't use vrbmd3 firmware. It sounds like your issue is with your phone, not the app.
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I've had my Nexus 5 for about two weeks now. I've just tried sending a Picture Message for the first time with this phone, but it keeps failing?
I'm on a Vodafone 4G contract, but I'm at home so I'm connected to my WiFi. I've tried downloading ChompSMS which is what I used to use on my previous phone, but it still failed. I've also tried 8SMS which resembles the original Android Messaging App, but no joy?
I've just tried disabling WiFi, and it managed to send the message?!
What's going on? Do I really need to disable WiFi every time I want to send MMS???
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I've had my Nexus 5 for about two weeks now. I've just tried sending a Picture Message for the first time with this phone, but it keeps failing?
I'm on a Vodafone 4G contract, but I'm at home so I'm connected to my WiFi. I've tried downloading ChompSMS which is what I used to use on my previous phone, but it still failed. I've also tried 8SMS which resembles the original Android Messaging App, but no joy?
I've just tried disabling WiFi, and it managed to send the message?!
What's going on? Do I really need to disable WiFi every time I want to send MMS???
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you need network data connection to send mms, not wifi. mms go through your carrier, thats why they charge for it. if you could send mms over wifi, they couldnt charge you for it.
You shouldn't need to disable WiFi to send SMS. That's really strange.
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lauterm said:
You shouldn't need to disable WiFi to send SMS. That's really strange.
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mms not sms
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mms not sms
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I'm sure he typo'd. Either way, you shouldn't have to disable wifi to send MMS. Yes.. you need a data connection to the carrier, but that doesn't mean you should have to disable wifi to do it... I'm waiting for my N5 to show up and have been browsing around here in the mean time... If this is true, then it's definitely a bug as it hasn't affected any other android device I've had from android 2.0 through 4.3. I frequently send MMS while on wifi and it's smart enough to route it through mobile data in the background.
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I'm sure he typo'd. Either way, you shouldn't have to disable wifi to send MMS. Yes.. you need a data connection to the carrier, but that doesn't mean you should have to disable wifi to do it... I'm waiting for my N5 to show up and have been browsing around here in the mean time... If this is true, then it's definitely a bug as it hasn't affected any other android device I've had from android 2.0 through 4.3. I frequently send MMS while on wifi and it's smart enough to route it through mobile data in the background.
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I've had loads of Android devices too, and this is the first time this has happened. When your phone turns up, please try it and let me know?
i am the one that is wrong here, it should send the mms even though wifi is connected. i tried earlier, and it didnt send(turned out that person changed their number). so i tried again, a different number, and it sent.
You can read all the long drawn out situation, or scroll to the Abridged version down below.
So I've heard of people and developers modding apps, giving the modded versions added features. In fact I have the modded Spotify Apk that allows me to skip any song in my playlist, but moreover from that, there is a serious issue. I don't know if anyone but Xperia Z3 owners on T-Mobile are affected from this, but the stock Sony messaging app on the Xperia Z3 has no MMS/Group Messaging feature. So even if I make a new messaging thread with more than one recipient, after I send the message, the replies come back as if the person sending it, only sent it to me, not the "group thread." So, what? You might be thinking to tell me to "just download a new app that supports MMS and Group Messaging like Textra," but the answer is not as simple as that.
So why is this so important that I'm asking the best developers around the world to help me? Well, T-Mobile is not known for its best signal that covers the entire continent. If fact they're kind of known for the opposite, so much so, that they've implemented "T-Mobile Wi-Fi Calling," to help burden the pain of spotty coverage. So practically all "T-Mobile Wi-Fi Calling" does is it allows one to send SMS/MMS(group messaging and picture)/calls over Wi-Fi. Pretty nifty, right? Well, yeah, if only it allowed third party apps like Hangouts, Textra, chompSMS, etc. to tap into it, but unfortunately, T-Mobile locked the use of "T-Mobile Wi-Fi Calling" only to the stock Sony pre-installed messaging app: Messaging, the app that can't handle a Multi-Recipient MMS group conversation. ("T-Mobile Wi-Fi Calling" is locked to all stock messaging apps, on any T-mobile phone) This problem doesn't just affect the Xperia Z3, it predates all the way back to the original Sony Xperia Z, meaning that all current Sony phone holders are affected by this: Z, ZR, Z1, Z1s, Z1c, Z2, Z3c, and Z3. That is why I'm asking you, the best developers to try and mod the stock Sony Xperia Messaging App, not just to help me, but help a lot of disgruntled Sony phone owners. If the problem has persisted for 8 different phones, I am hardly confident that Sony will fix this in their Lollipop update with the T-Mobile tweaks. All you (the developers/modders) would have to do is mod the stock Sony Xperia Z3 messaging app to have MMS/group messaging handing, rendering it actually usable and usefull. The only other way to resolve this issue is through legalities and laws of app developers getting permission to use and tap into the T-Mobile Wi-Fi Calling, which in all honesty doesn't seem very secure for T-Mobile's data security.
The Sony Xperia Z3 is a great phone, top tier, just with this one annoying quirk. So much so. that people are returning their brand new, perfectly good phones (google "xperia z3 wifi calling mms"). I could just hope that Sony and T-Mobile would finally listen to the thousands complaining, but the chance of that happening is close to zero. In fact the stock Sony Messaging App is actually pretty great and I wish other apps like Textra would implement some of its features (like the ability to set your own custom background on the individual conversation thread), but the likewise could be said in vice versa.
My personal situation (irrelevant to the problem): I don't know if what I typed makes sense (there's a lot of different things to process, and I might of left some details out). I'm just a frustrated Xperia Z3 owner, with the programming experience of copying code from the internet and putting it in the arduino compiler, so I'm way over my head with trying to reprogram/modifying an app. I've searched for months trying to find and decent alternative, but without T-Mobile Wi-Fi Calling I get all my messages an hour to a day late, because of the spotty coverage of the area I live in. I mean, I have 2 bars of 2G all the time, it's just I get 10 seconds of 4G every 15 min, contributing to the delay of messages. The delay (if I even get the message entirely) has messed up some of my friendships, because they think I'm ignoring them. I brag about my phone being so superior to iPhones, and it's always a little embarrassing and humiliating that a phone as good as the Z3 has this one crippling flaw. It's starting to get annoying and I might honestly just switch to an iPhone next because of how well iMessaging works, buts that only if the top of the top developers fail this desperate attempt.
ABRIDGED VERSION: Either I use the stock Sony messaging app that allows MMS over Wi-Fi but no group messaging, or a third party app that allows MMS group messaging but test chance to whether or not I get the message on time, delayed an hour, or not at all. Also the third party app could not utilize T-Mobile Wi-Fi Calling, something many T-Mobile users rely on.
PLAN OF ACTION (for people with the knowhow to fix it [so not me]): Fix the stock Sony Xperia Z3 messaging app by modding it to be able to handle MMS/group messaging. I don't know how, but hopefully some developer/wizard could do some magic that Sony Developers couldn't do with their coconuts they call computers. So all in all is this even possible?
So does anyone know of anyone with the knowledge and power to accomplish and put an end to this MAJOR problem? At least some acknowledgement that other people are facing this problem would be nice. (Am I in the right/appropriate sub forum?)
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found this on reddit
From post
"I must have tried 10 sms/mms apps. Hangouts wasn't working out how I wanted to either, it would often default back to hangout chats instead of SMS, and group text replies would often come in as individual sms from iPhone users.
Finally used Textra, there's an option in there for MMS and T-mobile which was causing problems when wifi calling was enabled. After turning that on, my text messaging woes are finally over."
Thx for the reply, but I'm currently using Textra and I either get texts an hour late, or not at all, so fixing the stock Sony Messaging App is the best option, all it needs is the ability to handle MMS/group messaging, because the stock Sony messaging app is the only app that can use T-Mobile's Wi-Fi Calling, which can also send/receive MMS.
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Don't have a z3 just yet but try 8sms, mms-->mms setting-->mms over wifi. Weirdly it doesn't work on my s3 if i install it from the playstore but if you go to his website and 8sms ddownload directory and download there the mms over wifi works better than textra
Need a solution for this!
I also would love a solution for this. I hate that about this phone! I use the Google Messenger currently but that one sucks. I only get half of the group messages on that. And if a message is too long that it breaks up into 2 messages, the 2nd part never comes through. Why can't Sony just update their stock messaging app and fix the problem?!!?!
Use Textra?
I already use textra, and it is very wishy-washy even about me receiving ordinary SMS text, let alone MMS .
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This is supposedly fixed in the Lollipop update according to a post on the T-Mobile support forum. Google "Lollipop gave my Xperia Z3 Group MMS".
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This is supposedly fixed in the Lollipop update according to a post on the T-Mobile support forum. Google "Lollipop gave my Xperia Z3 Group MMS".
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I haven't received the update yet, but I really hope it does fix the Group MMS problem. All I have yet to do is wait...
drummerjames said:
I haven't received the update yet, but I really hope it does fix the Group MMS problem. All I have yet to do is wait...
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MMS and group texting works 100% now for me. How have you not received the update yet? I was under the impression T-Mobile was not doing a Soak rollout and anyone whose phone queries the server should have access to it?
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MMS and group texting works 100% now for me. How have you not received the update yet? I was under the impression T-Mobile was not doing a Soak rollout and anyone whose phone queries the server should have access to it?
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My phone started having problems with wifi, so I sent it in and they Sony fixed it for free, and right now it's in shipping
I have lollipop on a Non T-Mobile Z3 and this issue is NOT fixed. The stock messaging app still doesn't work with group messages right. I use google messenger, and it works but its slow and sometimes misses some group messages.
I don't understand how this phone has this issue in 2015....
I would try Textra Rogue, and never look back. lol (Optional: I don't care much for the Android emojis, so install this Textra add-on afterwards to get the cooler looking iOS emojis.)
I have a suspicion that the issue is more T-Mobile's fault than Sony's. Yes, the stock messenger on the Z3 (and on the HTC One phones, and on the Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge phones etc. lol) sucks and can't properly handle/display MMS messages. But once Textra replaces stock messenger (you should disable stock after installing Textra), that issue goes away. But the issue with NOT GETTING some or all MMS messages is something that T-Mobile seems to be having mostly with the Z phones.
So you aren't having ANY issues receiving MMS or even SMS messages then post-Lollipop? I had issues before but fixed them, and after getting Lollipop, everything seemed fine at first, but then the issues kinda came back and also some MMS texts would only show up after I reset my phone. So my old fixes from pre-Lollipop have been put back into play, and so far everything seems fine. But those fixes include using an alternate APN and turning off VoLTE, which I now get in my area but didn't pre-Lollipop. It annoys me that I have to turn VoLTE off to get my MMS messages though. And I still need a couple weeks to know for sure that it worked. I was getting the MAJORITY of my MMS messages before turning off VoLTE post-Lollipop, just not all of them. So far at least one photo/group MMS came in so I think it's working, but we'll see.
Do you know any other people who bought a Z3 but not through T-Mobile? If so, are they having any issues like mine??
Thanks,
RockStar2005
use textra or google messenger much better I think
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.textra&hl=en
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.messaging&hl=en
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MMS and group texting works 100% now for me. How have you not received the update yet? I was under the impression T-Mobile was not doing a Soak rollout and anyone whose phone queries the server should have access to it?
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Scoder,
Answer me one question please........ do you have VoLTE enabled on your Z3? I disabled mine (again) b/c it appeared to be the reason why I was missing some random MMS messages here & there (before AND after Lollipop). I'm waiting for someone to tell me that they're not missing ANY MMS messages and have VoLTE enabled. Until then, I'll keep using Textra. It seems to work (and looks cooler), but only if VoLTE is off. I'm also using an alternate APN, but I think it's really more about whether VoLTE is on or not.
Thanks,
RockStar2005
Black Plague said:
use textra or google messenger much better I think
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.textra&hl=en
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.messaging&hl=en
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Black Plague,
I am curious about Google Messenger. The stock one works just fine now, but I'd prefer more options. Also, when Wi-Fi is on, it doesn't always automatically download MMS messages, even though I have that enabled in Settings. This is b/c Stamina Mode is on, and since I can't whitelist the stock app b/c it doesn't show up on the whitelist app list, I can't do anything about it. But GM would show up.
Let me ask you............. 1) Do you have T-Mobile? 2) Do you have VoLTE enabled or disabled? 3) Do you use the default APN or an alternate? 4) Do you have Stamina Mode on? And if so, did you whitelist GM?
Thanks,
RockStar2005
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Since my 7/8 post Rogue, I've gone back to Stock, for now. I've been told by ppl who have the same phone and carrier as me (T-Mobile) that since Lollipop it can actually handle MMS properly finally. For last 2 days I've had it and uninstalled Textra............ and it seems to work just fine for the most part. Though Textra was cooler, it didn't seem to work all the time with MMS messages (sometimes they wouldn't come in) when I had VoLTE enabled, so had to turn it off. But with Stock I can keep it on it seems, which I prefer. Makes connecting to calls quicker and they say it upgrades the call sound quality too, though not sure if I notice a difference?
Only small thing is it doesn't automatically download MMS messages even though I set that up. I believe Stamina Mode is the reason. Can't whitelist stock b/c it doesn't show up on the whitelist app list, but maybe Google Messenger might? We'll see. It's a minor thing though b/c it still notifies me when an MMS message comes in, so I can download it automatically if it doesn't (sometimes it does). It seems to only really be an issue when I have Wi-Fi on, b/c when it's off it seems to download the MMS msg automatically.
RockStar2005
RockStar2005 said:
Black Plague,
I am curious about Google Messenger. The stock one works just fine now, but I'd prefer more options. Also, when Wi-Fi is on, it doesn't always automatically download MMS messages, even though I have that enabled in Settings. This is b/c Stamina Mode is on, and since I can't whitelist the stock app b/c it doesn't show up on the whitelist app list, I can't do anything about it. But GM would show up.
Let me ask you............. 1) Do you have T-Mobile? 2) Do you have VoLTE enabled or disabled? 3) Do you use the default APN or an alternate? 4) Do you have Stamina Mode on? And if so, did you whitelist GM?
Thanks,
RockStar2005
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bro I m from India I dont have chance to use Tmobile or Volte either I used Textra its nice app but I dont need that much setting though so i switch to GM coz I get a nice widget and about stamina mode I keep its settings to default but I use Greenify and keep all apps to sleep,
If u still want to try more apps please leme for ya
If u need the most settings in an sms app go for GO SMS pro, the first sms app I used it got a private box and cool themes to its awesome
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jb.gosms&hl=en
and a few alternatives to Textra if u wish, its almost similar I think to textra
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=rpkandrodev.yaata&hl=en
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.p1.chompsms
Plague,
India? Oh ok.
I see. I'm wary about going back to third party apps, but since this one is MADE by Google, I'm more open to it. Textra was fantastic, but where before it was superior to Stock (since I didn't get VoLTE in my area but now I do since around the time Lollipop came out), now it seems Stock actually works better as it lets ALL MMS messages come in even with VoLTE on. Textra wasn't if VoLTE was on. I may have to ask around more.
Yeah Chomp SMS is made by the same company (Delicious, Inc.) that later made Textra. Both are great. For me though I prob won't use them anymore. They need to be made better to handle VoLTE being in the mix.
Thanks.
In an effort to squeeze a little extra battery life from my phone I setup a tasker profile to disable mobile data when on Wifi.
Unfortunately, that means I can't get MMS messages when on Wifi. I'm using hangouts, but don't think it's hangouts specific. Any one know if there's a way to make this work? Thanks.
I think you should keep mobile data on anyway, as Android prioritizes Wifi over data. So when connected to Wifi, data is simply disconnected, but not disabled. So sending MMS is still possible even while connected via wifi.
rand0m_insanity said:
I think you should keep mobile data on anyway, as Android prioritizes Wifi over data. So when connected to Wifi, data is simply disconnected, but not disabled. So sending MMS is still possible even while connected via wifi.
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Yeah, I don't disagree. The problem is for about 15 hours a week I'm in a place where I have abysmal cell coverage. When I'm there my battery goes to crap, I was hoping this would help with it.
Google voice hangout works fine over MMS
frigidazzi said:
Google voice hangout works fine over MMS
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The problem is you can't send receive MMS over Wifi, for some reason it has to use the cellular data.
rbrenart said:
The problem is you can't send receive MMS over Wifi, for some reason it has to use the cellular data.
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With Google voice you can. I do it all the time. Only use air plane mode with Wi-Fi at work and usually at home... But I'm assuming you aren't using Google voice.
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With Google voice you can. I do it all the time. Only use air plane mode with Wi-Fi at work and usually at home... But I'm assuming you aren't using Google voice.
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Ah, I see what you're saying... no, only using Google Voice for voicemail. I must admit, I never did really figure that product out completely.
Nextplus
I use next plus for WiFi text, gives you a separate phone number as well
It depends, I don't use hangouts I use stock sms and MMS sent to my number requires data from the provider, stored on their servers till the image expires, or log into my account to view the image
Are the people sending you these images use hangouts and are logged in?, assuming it will send via Google's services
With 5.1.1 there seems to be a bug with WiFi and data cross over, if I have both on, sometimes data stays on instead of wifi while the phone is sleeping at home, then it switches over when display is on,another reason why I don't leave it on.
It's not about images, it's about MMS for group text messages. And some use hangouts and some do not. Some use android, some use iphone.
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It's not about images, it's about MMS for group text messages. And some use hangouts and some do not. Some use android, some use iphone.
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Hmm.. It should be fine, then.
I tested it with a friend who is on Android. We disabled our mobile data and we could send MMS group messages.
(From Hangouts to Hangouts, no SMS involved. I cannot text using it, anyway, being on iPhone).
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EvilKittyCupcake said:
Hmm.. It should be fine, then.
I tested it with a friend who is on Android. We disabled our mobile data and we could send MMS group messages.
(From Hangouts to Hangouts, no SMS involved. I cannot text using it, anyway, being on iPhone).
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I suggest any one who wants to try for themselves test then, because on my setup I would not get the MMS. It may have been due to emoticons or something else I'm not thinking of, but I clearly remember the separate SMS from my wife asking why I was ignoring everyone on the group text
I've got an annoying texter, and want to block their number on my Note 5. Where is the setting for that? Thank you in advance!
Truecaller had been great for me so far for blocking numbers and they released a messenger that lets you block them as well.
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Thanks. I was thinking there should already be a setting in the stock messages app. I guess it was Chomp SMS that I was using before that worked really well.
Yea that works too. Verizon can block specific numbers but it only stays blocked for 3 months then it drops off.
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If you open the phone/dailer app and go to settings there is an option to block calls there (I'm not sure if this will work for text messages, though).
I also noticed there is an option to reply with a text message when a call is blocked. Could be useful if you block calls during vacation or a meeting.
The default messaging app leaves options to be desired for sure, but for a stock app it's actually pretty decent from my previous experiences.
I usually used Handcent on all my phones, but I find the stock app seems pretty nice and generally more stable than third party message apps.