I want to clone ALL data from one to another NEXUS 5 (OS+app+data+root permission). So basically I wanted to take snapshot of phone memory and transfer it to another phone. The one which I use is rooted and has omni ROM. I would like to know if this is possible and how?
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Do nandroid backup on your current phone and pull it down to your desktop. Flash a custom recovery to the new phone, push the nandroid backup files to the new phone and restore.
daewond3r said:
Do nandroid backup on your current phone and pull it down to your desktop. Flash a custom recovery to the new phone, push the nandroid backup files to the new phone and restore.
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Is it possible to do it without flashing a custom recovery to a new phone? Somehow like taking a image of phone memory and drop it to new phone?
DTFuser said:
Is it possible to do it without flashing a custom recovery to a new phone? Somehow like taking a image of phone memory and drop it to new phone?
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Nope. You need to have a custom recovery installed in the device on which you're going to restore.
Make sure you don't restore the EFS partition as it will mess up the IMEI and other things.
you can run custom recovery without installing, or just install the original recovery afterwards
twrp caught me out when I thought backing up data would backup the whole user data partition, but it missed out the sdcard and obb sections.. which annoyed me, guess I shouldn't of presumed..doh
Indeed, you cannot backup /sdcard via a Nandroid backup because it saves the backup on the /sdcard
In order for that to be feasible, your kernel, ROM, data and sdcard combined must be smaller than the free space on the sdcard.. In other words, you couldn't even half fill your sdcard
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you can save to USB otg.. I used an externaly powered 3.5" PC drive, formatted to fat32.. a bit overkill but it worked
rootSU said:
Indeed, you cannot backup /sdcard via a Nandroid backup because it saves the backup on the /sdcard
In order for that to be feasible, your kernel, ROM, data and sdcard combined must be smaller than the free space on the sdcard.. In other words, you couldn't even half fill your sdcard
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So just to clear that out. If I had enough space on sdcard or on external drive via USB otg I CAN clone all data from one to another phone with use of Nandroid.
But still I need to root new phone and put custom ROM on it. That step is not possible to avoid?
Even with use of ADB that step is not possible to avoid?
DTFuser said:
So just to clear that out. If I had enough space on sdcard or on external drive via USB otg I CAN clone all data from
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No, I'm saying it is not possible to back up your sdcard in a nandroid for the reasons mentioned. You can backup system, data and boot to sdcard, then move sdcard to PC
DTFuser said:
But still I need to root new phone and put custom ROM on it. That step is not possible to avoid?
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Custom recovery yes. Root, no. You root AFTER installing a recovery
DTFuser said:
Even with use of ADB that step is not possible to avoid?
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adb would need root access to the device, which stock recovery hasn't got.
meangreenie said:
you can run custom recovery without installing, or just install the original recovery afterwards
twrp caught me out when I thought backing up data would backup the whole user data partition, but it missed out the sdcard and obb sections.. which annoyed me, guess I shouldn't of presumed..doh
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What is obb section?
DTFuser said:
What is obb section?
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Its on the sdcard. Some games use obb files
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On my new phone I will put up to date TWRP which differs from one on my old phone, which is 2.6.3.4. The image which I plan to flash has boot and recovery partition included. Would that be a problem because of different version of TWRP on my two phones?
EFS is easy to set with TWR. Even if the original has it you can decide not to copy it on the other. As a rule Twr don't copy EFS and I've had to set it just to copy that when I've wanted it for back up
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Before i install a new ROM, if I factory data reset or wipe data and cache n everything from the recovery screen, will I still have Titanium Backup so i can restore my apps?
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Titanium backup will be deleted but the backups it creates won't. After you install a new Tom or do a factory wipe, download titanium from the market and it'll auto recognize your backups
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Great thanks a lot man, I have dlevrom running now so will reseting that make sure im not running an old rom in the background? like will that make sure I'm not taking up space/memory with old unused crap?
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Just make sure you don't format your internal SD. By default TiBu backs up all info to the folder TitaniumBackup on internal sdcard root.
thanks man, yea I moved the backup folder to my external sd, that fixes that right? Now i can just wipe everything rite
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Btw after I'm done and restoring in TiBu can i goto batch, restore all apps + system data? Or will the system data mess with the custom rom?
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Just restore apps no data
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You don't need to move your backups to external... a data wipe in recovery will not touch your internal SD. And yes, definitely no system data restore... can cause weird things to happen. App data is alright though.
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Never, again, NEVER restore system data when moving between ROMS. Its not recommended even within the same ROM. Contacts Storage and clock are exceptions to this.
ONLY DO THIS BATCH.
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Internal SD card won't be touched unless you specifically tell it to format the SD card. That is root card as we'll as the expansion card. Doing a factory reset/wipe is safe so don't worry about losing anything on those cards
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I know what your thinking. The Holidays aren't for another 4 months! Yes, but isn't this the time of year that goes by quickest? Shouldn't you have a quick phone for the quickest time of year? Eh, you don't have to get the logic, just the guide.
Section 1: The obvious stuff
1. Uninstall unused apps (Haven't touched an app in 1-2 months? You should consider uninstalling it)
2. Download 99 tools or android assistant (Both good). Clear your cache and history.
(TIP: I don't suggest clearing your cache too often, as typically they make your apps load faster and keeps your phone from always having to access it from the SD/Internal storage.
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Section 2: Anti-virus.
1. If you haven't already, download an antivirus program from the market. Some good ones are Lookout, avast!, or AVG.
2. Virus scan your phone, and set it to do so every morning (like 3-4am).
3. This ensures that your phone is virus and malware free!
Step 3: Clean your home screen
1. Get rid of any icons or widgets you never look at or use. You can always access them from the app drawer.
2. If you want, put in some fresh icons and widgets, this will give you a fresh feel.
3. If you want, you can download a new launcher for more performance and customization. (I reccomend GO Launcher or Launcher Pro)
Section 4: Clean your SD (if applicable)
MAKE SURE YOU READ ALL 6 STEPS BEFORE PERFORMING
1. Move all your apps to the internal phone memory (if you have any on the SD card). You can use 99 toolkit or android assistant for this.
2. Plug your phone into your computer, and enable usb storage mode.
3. Backup your music, pictures, and anything else you want to keep on your sd card.
4. Format your SD card (or just erase everything).
5. Put your music, pictures, and anything else you backed up back on your SD card.
6. You now have a clean SD without a bunch of random folder's apps tend to create over time. (ex. openfient, certain browsers.)
Step 5: Finishing things up.
1. If your phone still seems sluggish or just messy, try factory resetting it. All your music, pictures, and app data are all on your SD card. Backup your apps with titanium backup. YOU WILL LOSE YOUR APPS, BUT IF YOU PUT THEM ON THE SD CARD (after you clean up your sd card) YOU WILL NOT LOSE YOUR APP DATA (levels, settings) AND ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS RE-DOWNLOAD THEM.
2. If your looking for a new look to your phone check out my guide to making you feel like your running ICS.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31230439#post31230439
I hope you liked my guide, and if you did don't hesitate to click the thanks button. If I am not clear on some parts, or you think I should add something, please tell me.
I know all of these steps however gave thanks for taking the time to help others.
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I know all of these steps however gave thanks for taking the time to help others.
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Thanks I kinda knew the more experience people would know all this already just the ones who are new to android.
I don't know if this is even a serious question xD but you move all your apps to internal storage because you wanna do a clean-up of these random-created folders or there is more into it ? And also about factory reset, I think you should mention the effects of it for example when you do factory reset you also lose all the settings that you may have modified don't you ?
mojito0 said:
I don't know if this is even a serious question xD but you move all your apps to internal storage because you wanna do a clean-up of these random-created folders or there is more into it ? And also about factory reset, I think you should mention the effects of it for example when you do factory reset you also lose all the settings that you may have modified don't you ?
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Factory reset clears the /system partition, and rebuilds it from the recovery partition, therefore you lose the following:
settings
apps (if not backed up)
homescreen setup
You will NOT lose the following:
Music
Pictures
app data (levels beat, preferences)
contacts (auto backed up to SIM)
and no if you move apps to internal storage, you will not lose anything upon SD format
Thanks for your feedback I will make that more clear in my guide
Factory reset from the settings menu will erase everything on the internal sd, including pictures and music.
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ingenious247 said:
Factory reset from the settings menu will erase everything on the internal sd, including pictures and music.
Sent from the current Heavyweight Champ Galaxy SIII
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If you do not have an SD, yes it will erase those things, but if you have an SD then unless you tick "erase SD contents" while factory resetting, it will not erase those things.
Thanks
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Thanks
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No problem glad you found this helpful
Thanks.
Yoyomah20 said:
Factory reset clears the /system partition, and rebuilds it from the recovery partition, therefore you lose the following:
settings
apps (if not backed up)
homescreen setup
You will NOT lose the following:
Music
Pictures
app data (levels beat, preferences)
contacts (auto backed up to SIM)
and no if you move apps to internal storage, you will not lose anything upon SD format
Thanks for your feedback I will make that more clear in my guide
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Actually. Factory reset wipes everything except for the system partition. It wipes the data and cache partitions.
Unless you have a phone that has a hidden backup partition, which I am unaware of such device, any modifications you have made in the system partition will stay untouched during a reset.
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Hello I wonder if making a full phone backup to PC's hard drive would be possible...I mean something similar to Acronis trueimage of Windows partition...but do this on phone with exclusion of the main firmware. Because of no SDcard slot I need store everything to connected PC HDD...
Looked at TitaniumBackup which probably is close to what I need but I'm afraid it lacks support for storing to networked location. Any working solution is highly appreciated
bflmpsvz said:
Hello I wonder if making a full phone backup to PC's hard drive would be possible...I mean something similar to Acronis trueimage of Windows partition...but do this on phone with exclusion of the main firmware. Because of no SDcard slot I need store everything to connected PC HDD...
Looked at TitaniumBackup which probably is close to what I need but I'm afraid it lacks support for storing to networked location. Any working solution is highly appreciated
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Take backup using Cwm and u can reflash it using ir phone again.
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You need to root (gain root/superuser access) your device and install a custom recovery. Clockwork Mod is one of the (CWM), TWRP is another (having used both, I prefer TWRP - but you can try either/both yourself). You can then copy or cut the backed-up files from the recovery's folder to your computer.
Thanks, probably give it a try if anything else fails. Would it be possible to mount a windows shared drive to phone's internal filesystem? So that TB could access it as internal folder...
use nandroid backup (cwm)
you must root your device
backup cwm will get what you want
or you can try this GO Backup Pro 2.9
http://www.1mobile.com/go-backup-pro-550518.html
Thanks for your suggestion
LEON_HEART said:
backup cwm will get what you want
or you can try this GO Backup Pro 2.9
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Thanks for the advices. I finally managed to install CWM
CWM's backup = Nandroid?
This works for SDcard, however the condition to backup directly to my PC's hard drive is not met
Remember I suffer with lack of space on builtin SDcard so I need to exclude it from backup process at all even as temporary location.
One more question about CWM, where can I find the latest version? I have 6.0.1.2.
bflmpsvz said:
Thanks for the advices. I finally managed to install CWM
CWM's backup = Nandroid?
This works for SDcard, however the condition to backup directly to my PC's hard drive is not met
Remember I suffer with lack of space on builtin SDcard so I need to exclude it from backup process at all even as temporary location.
One more question about CWM, where can I find the latest version? I have 6.0.1.2.
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Yeah, you need to be able to access files in the phone not on sd card, the phone has a seperate memory he wants to access, I think he is asking how to put the phone (everything) onto PC.... im not sure how to do this myself but I will look into it for you, I believe you can access that info but im not sure where the files you want are.
The backup is saved into /sdcard/clockworkmod/blob/ but the problem I have with it is that used soace in internal memory is over 1.5GB while free space on Sdcard is usually several 100s MB...
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So I decided to go from Cataclysm to Dirty Unicorn ROM. I used to swap roms constantly and retain all data between swaps but it'd been a long while and I was out of practice.
I rebooted to recovery and was about to selectively wipe /system, /data, cache and dalvik but saw on the default wipe screen that i could just wipe data cache and dalvik in one go by swiping to confirm. So I did becasue I was reassured on the same screen:
Wipes Data, Cache, and Dalvik
(not including internal storage)
Most of the time this is the only wipe you need
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So i thought, "Great, let's do this one and I won't wipe all the photos i've taken of my first born since the day she was born."
I was wrong. Everything got wiped from internal storage.
what the actual F. What exactly happened? I know its my own fault but what technically am I missing?
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EDIT: A restore brought everything back. My pics and all. Who knew that the sdcard contents was included in a nandroid - not me. Still though. WTF.
scirio said:
So I decided to go from Cataclysm to Dirty Unicorn ROM. I used to swap roms constantly and retain all data between swaps but it'd been a long while and I was out of practice.
I rebooted to recovery and was about to selectively wipe /system, /data, cache and dalvik but saw on the default wipe screen that i could just wipe data cache and dalvik in one go by swiping to confirm. So I did becasue I was reassured on the same screen:
So i thought, "Great, let's do this one and I won't wipe all the photos i've taken of my first born since the day she was born."
I was wrong. Everything got wiped from internal storage.
what the actual F. What exactly happened? I know its my own fault but what technically am I missing?
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first.. questions do not go in the general section, they go in q&a. thats where you should post to find out if youre screwed.
secondly, you want to press that advanced wipe menu button, and then pick what exactly you want to get wiped.
scirio said:
So I decided to go from Cataclysm to Dirty Unicorn ROM. I used to swap roms constantly and retain all data between swaps but it'd been a long while and I was out of practice.
I rebooted to recovery and was about to selectively wipe /system, /data, cache and dalvik but saw on the default wipe screen that i could just wipe data cache and dalvik in one go by swiping to confirm. So I did becasue I was reassured on the same screen:
So i thought, "Great, let's do this one and I won't wipe all the photos i've taken of my first born since the day she was born."
I was wrong. Everything got wiped from internal storage.
what the actual F. What exactly happened? I know its my own fault but what technically am I missing?
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It never wiped the internal storage with the 100+ times I've used it.
simms22 said:
first.. questions do not go in the general section, they go in q&a. thats where you should post to find out if youre screwed.
secondly, you want to press that advanced wipe menu button, and then pick what exactly you want to get wiped.
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Can this be moved?
And yeah that's exactly what I typically do (advanced wipe) but dunno, just went with this for some reason. i felt secure when it told me internal storage would remain intact. is scard not in "internal storage"?
I backed up before teh swap and just finished restoring and everything came back! But even that shocked me because I didn't realize my backups were backing up my sdcard. I am very confused. I'm not new at this i swear
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It never wiped the internal storage with the 100+ times I've used it.
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Right. I figured I was safe.
scirio said:
Can this be moved?
And yeah that's exactly what I typically do (advanced wipe) but dunno, just went with this for some reason. i felt secure when it told me internal storage would remain intact. is scard not in "internal storage"?
I backed up before teh swap and just finished restoring and everything came back! But even that shocked me because I didn't realize my backups were backing up my sdcard. I am very confused. I'm not new at this i swear
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its moved by a mod already
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scirio said:
Can this be moved?
And yeah that's exactly what I typically do (advanced wipe) but dunno, just went with this for some reason. i felt secure when it told me internal storage would remain intact. is scard not in "internal storage"?
I backed up before teh swap and just finished restoring and everything came back! But even that shocked me because I didn't realize my backups were backing up my sdcard. I am very confused. I'm not new at this i swear
Right. I figured I was safe.
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just as you can chose what you want backed up into your backup
scirio said:
I backed up before teh swap and just finished restoring and everything came back!
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1. I'm glad you got the photos back.
2. Please learn from this. Back up your photos. If they're as important as newborn pics, use redundant backups. Let Google upload them to the cloud automatically. Manually upload them to another cloud. Put them on an HDD. Your phone could fall and shatter in a million itty bitty pieces at any moment. You could lose it. Drop it in water. Accidentally erase internal storage when switching ROMs. Stuff happens. Those are precious memories. Make sure you keep the pictures that remind you of them.
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1. I'm glad you got the photos back.
2. Please learn from this. Back up your photos.
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You're so right. They're on google plus but they're not the original quality. videos especially, i think they get scaled down to 720.
I may have completely panicked way too much. When I connect to the Android File Transfer app on desktop I see no files. But when I open, say, Solid Explorer on the Nexus i still see everything. So maybe the filesystem is mapped differently in this rom? Can anybody shed light on that?
scirio said:
You're so right. They're on google plus but they're not the original quality. videos especially, i think they get scaled down to 720.
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That's actually a good point I didn't realize. Thanks for the info.
scirio said:
I may have completely panicked way too much. When I connect to the Android File Transfer app on desktop I see no files. But when I open, say, Solid Explorer on the Nexus i still see everything. So maybe the filesystem is mapped differently in this rom? Can anybody shed light on that?
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I'm not sure what the Android File Transfer application is, can't help you use that. It should be simpler than that. Can you see your phone with Windows Explorer when you plug it in? Just go to Computer\Nexus 5\Internal storage\DCIM\ and everything should be in there. Specifically, in the Camera folder for anything captured with your camera - both pictures and videos.
scirio said:
EDIT: A restore brought everything back. My pics and all. Who knew that the sdcard contents was included in a nandroid - not me. Still though. WTF.
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I don't think it wiped your sdcard. I don't think the Nandroid restored it either. Maybe it did something like change the mount point or something which was changed back when you restored.
Unless you're saying that ONLY your photos were wiped and restore?
...because if you think about it logically, if you have filled 9 GB of your 11.35 GB sdcard with data, where would that backup go? You certainly can't fit 9 GB of data and 9GB of backup on a 11 GB partition...in fact, a Nandroid backup is at least 2.5 GB anyway, with high compression. To be able to backup your Rom, data and sdcard onto your sdcard, the maximum used space on your sdcard you could have is maybe 4 GB
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rootSU said:
I don't think it wiped your sdcard. I don't think the Nandroid restored it either. Maybe it did something like change the mount point or something which was changed back when you restored.
Unless you're saying that ONLY your photos were wiped and restore?
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Right, I think the mount point is what changed, sending me in to a panic. Android File Transfer (AFT) is the application required to browse the sdcard from OS X.
Alternatively, I can run my windows vm to browse it directly in Windows Explorer, and in fact sometimes I do but it's a bit heavy for just reading the card. After some time (re-indexing?) the files showed up in AFT.
You were safe the whole time. It wiped what it said. Next time just read twrp log. It will show what it deletes and you can figure out what happens.
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Just want to add that you can choose whether the photos that are backed up to G+/Drive are compressed or are the original image.
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I was in stock 5.0 ROM with TWRP recovery, and wanted to try CyanogenMod 12.1.
Did backup in TWRP and then flashed CM12. All went well, but eventually I wanted to go back to my stock ROM.
Entered TWRP, did wipes and went to "Restore", my backup wasn't showing. So it wasn't detected.
Connected my phone to the PC and saw that somehow after flashing CM12 all my /sdcard content went to a "0" folder...
So my backup is in /sdcard/0/TWRP and the recovery is looking up in /sdcard/TWRP, therefore it can't find it.
So my question is what I'm supposed to do? Take all the content of the "0" folder and move it to the root of sdcard? Or just the backup and after restoring all the content will move alone, or will be on /0 but will show as in root?
Also, this will happen with every ROM or it's just CM issue?
Appreciate any help.
Edit: after moving the backup to /sdcard/TWRP and restoring the screen appeared black after boot and another "0" folder have been created inside the previous "0", so my sdcard content is now in /0/0 folder.