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Good News for Developers, Bad News for Pirates!!

http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/new-licensing-service-replacing-existing-copy-protection-metho/
Looks like pretty soon the days of people copy and pasting apk's all over the place are coming to an end.
I hope this doesn't make theming harder.. We'll see.
From reading that article,
Seems like airplane mode or a firewall would crush all the hopes and dreams of google and app devs.
It seems that every time we open an app it needs to verify that it's been paid for by contacting a "licensing" server and retrieving a response.
I feel like that could slow down launch times, and being unable to use an app when offline would be like UBISOFT hell all over again.
I really hope google puts a lot of thought into this..

I wonder if this if already being done? Every time I try to play that golf game on my EVO on an airplane while the radios are off I get a FC when it starts. As soon as I an on the ground and turn the radios on the game works fine.
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what if you are in an area with no signal or on a plane or something? you cant open any apps???

This is already in place in a number of apps, one is IP Cam Viewer.
I paid the money for it. I transferred all my files to my wife's Evo 4G, and thought "hell I'll see if it works..." Well it didn't. When I try to open the app, it tells me that I have to purchase it from the marketplace.
I'm all for buying apps when they're good, and I understand single user licensing. Guess I was just hoping I wouldn't have to spend double the money for all the apps I use.

simplyphp said:
This is already in place in a number of apps, one is IP Cam Viewer.
I paid the money for it. I transferred all my files to my wife's Evo 4G, and thought "hell I'll see if it works..." Well it didn't. When I try to open the app, it tells me that I have to purchase it from the marketplace.
I'm all for buying apps when they're good, and I understand single user licensing. Guess I was just hoping I wouldn't have to spend double the money for all the apps I use.
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I've heard of couples sharing the same email as apps get replicated on the two phone

I can confirm that they don't get replicated..
I have two evo's right now under the same email and they're definitely not replicating crap.

cahiatt said:
I wonder if this if already being done? Every time I try to play that golf game on my EVO on an airplane while the radios are off I get a FC when it starts. As soon as I an on the ground and turn the radios on the game works fine.
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Now that's a problem I understand about paying for apps but not working when I'm in a place with no signal. I see a law suit brewing up. I paid for the app I should be able to use the app whenever I want to. Class action law suit coming real soon.
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Crap....
"A limitation of copy protection is that applications using it can be installed only on compatible devices that provide a secure internal storage environment. For example, a copy-protected application cannot be downloaded from Market to a device that provides root access"
...Seriously???
EDIT - the above quote was misrepresented in the place I copied from...research shows it to be misleading. the actual bit of Google's text is posted over on page to of this thread. disregard my indignation in this post...

This is discouraging, because a lot of people like to try the full before they buy it expecting more than what full has to offer, only to be disappointed later.

willwgp said:
This is discouraging, because a lot of people like to try the full before they buy it expecting more than what full has to offer, only to be disappointed later.
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You do get a 24 hour refund option when you buy from the market so I'm not worried about trying before you buy. I do worry about not being able to play something when I'm in the bathroom at work because I don't get a signal there.

well how many ppl do actually piracy apps??? oh my bad forgot that this is Android, for a second i though it was apple!!

Just to clarify a couple of things:
There are 2 ways to use the Licensing - one is Strict - you CAN NOT USE THE APP WITHOUT ACCESS TO MARKETPLACE. Personally, screw that.
Option 2, however, is a non-strict policy. Server managed, where the license is 'cached' to storage. You also can programmatically set how long your app can be used without any license check.
That'd be the way i go

josue85 said:
You do get a 24 hour refund option when you buy from the market so I'm not worried about trying before you buy. I do worry about not being able to play something when I'm in the bathroom at work because I don't get a signal there.
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That'll be up to the developer. I like this approach, as I'd be happy to do say... a 5-7 day turn around on the license check. After 7 days with no data signal, seriously, where the hell are you? LOL
Besides, if you've used a paid app for 7 days, and by that time can't decide if you need it or not - wow.
And of course, as soon as you got signal again, the license check would go through and you can use the app again, no problem.
I'm sure there will be UbiSoft and EA style implementations though - way too damn draconian for my tastes. I don't care to know every single second that someone's using my app. I would just like to know that they haven't 'copied that floppy' as it were LOL
I have no doubts this will be defeated in time, though. All it would really take is mimicking the server license response, which can be extracted from the locally cached license of an actual paid product.
People that pirate software are going to do it, regardless. Don't make the honest people pay the price of draconian DRM.
The best approach I can make as a developer, is give my customers the features they want, in a stable, good performing package, and discourage 'casual' piracy. Beyond that, it's out of the developer's control, and honestly, any more than that usually just pisses off the customer and annoys the pirates for about a day and a half.

Ok...had to read the SDK paperwork as I really wanted to know this...my previous post was incorrect and here is the update...
From Google:
Android Market Licensing is a flexible, secure mechanism for controlling access to your applications. It effectively replaces the copy-protection mechanism offered on Android Market and gives you wider distribution potential for your applications.
A limitation of the legacy copy-protection mechanism on Android Market is that applications using it can be installed only on compatible devices that provide a secure internal storage environment. For example, an application using the copy-protection mechanism cannot be downloaded from Market to a device that provides root access, and the application cannot be installed to a device's SD card.
With Android Market licensing, you can move to a license-based model in which access is not bound to the characteristics of the host device, but to your publisher account on Android Market and the licensing policy that you define. Your application can be installed and controlled on any compatible device on any storage, including SD card.
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Also...there are options for the Devs to allow for apps to be used a chosen number of times before they need to check in for licenses. Strict has to check in every time....other option allows dev to choose based on times used or time since last check in.
SO...all in all I am much less worried about this now.

topdnbass said:
I can confirm that they don't get replicated..
I have two evo's right now under the same email and they're definitely not replicating crap.
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With licensing the dev can choose whether an app can be accessed from different phones. It is an option...
(greeked...multiple times)

Question: Does that mean we won't be able to open, modify, and resign apks? Like...to change the appearance (make a widget clear, etc).

More like bad news for paying consumers. That's who always pays for everything. Those of us who actually buy the products.
I plan on speaking with my wallet. I wont buy any app that requires I have an internet connection.

A limitation of the legacy copy-protection mechanism on Android Market is that applications using it can be installed only on compatible devices that provide a secure internal storage environment. For example, an application using the copy-protection mechanism cannot be downloaded from Market to a device that provides root access, and the application cannot be installed to a device's SD card.
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Wait so according to google us rooted folk couldn't download copy-protected apps before now?
Urrr, i think im missing something

This is actually a nice implementation for both the software developer and the user. Most will implement this where it only has to check-in every week or two. So the odds of getting caught in a spot where there is no connection is low.
At the end of the day, it is a pretty straightforward way to handle copy protection that really shouldn't inconvenience anyone.
Also it will bring more developers to the platform if they know they don't have to worry as much about piracy.

Piracy will still run rampant. People will find ways to circumvent this, that's just how it is. At least it will curb some piracy since copying and pasting an apk file wasn't much of a deterrent.

[SECURITY ALERT!] DroidDream Malware Found in Official Android Market

Google pulls 56 malicious apps from Android Marketplace
original source: http://blog.mylookout.com/2011/03/s...-found-in-official-android-market-droiddream/
List of malicious Android App that steals your information and download additional craps to your phone
Full list Developed by “Myournet”:
Falling Down
Super Guitar Solo
Super History Eraser
Photo Editor
Super Ringtone Maker
Super Sex Positions
Hot Sexy Videos
Chess
下坠滚球_Falldown
Hilton Sex Sound
Screaming Sexy Japanese Girls
Falling Ball Dodge
Scientific Calculator
Dice Roller
躲避弹球
Advanced Currency Converter
App Uninstaller
几何战机_PewPew
Funny Paint
Spider Man
蜘蛛侠
Full list Developed by “Kingmall2010″:
Bowling Time
Advanced Barcode Scanner
Supre Bluetooth Transfer
Task Killer Pro
Music Box
Sexy Girls: Japanese
Sexy Legs
Advanced File Manager
Magic Strobe Light
致命绝色美腿
墨水坦克Panzer Panic
裸奔先生Mr. Runner
软件强力卸载
Advanced App to SD
Super Stopwatch & Timer
Advanced Compass Leveler
Best password safe
掷骰子
多彩绘画
Full list Developed by “we20090202″:
Finger Race
Piano
Bubble Shoot
Advanced Sound Manager
Magic Hypnotic Spiral
Funny Face
Color Blindness Test
Tie a Tie
Quick Notes
Basketball Shot Now
Quick Delete Contacts
Omok Five in a Row
Super Sexy Ringtones
大家来找茬
桌上曲棍球
投篮高手
Personal warning I'll also include AppsPlanet into those list if I were you.

Some of them seem like the standard spammy, suspicious apps that I naturally avoid, but some of them actually look like popular apps - i.e. the advanced stuff, app uninstaller. Fortunately I don't have any of those stuff on my phone though. And if I'm putting something up from non- android market like over here on XDA perhaps, that I'm suspicious of I tend to scan it first (both on my PC and then on my mobile as well). And even on market I prefer to download apps that have many downloads and comments. Can't be too careful.
What's that pewpew thing? Not the same as this:https://market.android.com/details?id=com.jyaif.pewpew&feature=search_result is it?

syrenz said:
What's that pewpew thing? Not the same as this:https://market.android.com/details?id=com.jyaif.pewpew&feature=search_result is it?
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yes, it's that one, but seems like there was a fake copy of it floating in market
i was afraid too when i saw it, as i did install the legit one, but wasn't sure about the developers name

Yeah, that's the only thing that I installed so I was worried for a moment there.

The original source is reddit.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/fvepu/someone_just_ripped_off_21_popular_free_apps_from/
The whole market is just plain broken and it's a nightmare. It's embarrassing that the author of one of the apps has been complaining through every means possible to google for over a week to get pirated copies of his software taken down (he didn't realize they were injected with malignant code though). So, finally someone notices the developer name looks fishy for one of these apps and is curious to take a look inside the files and sees rageagainstthecage, pokes further, is horrified consults others and posts to reddit. Android Police picks it up and the story starts to spread and then finally google pays attention.
Google really needs to respond. The market.android.com website is so freaking buggy. Imagine if someone figures out how to use web install to push infected crap onto peoples phones. It almost makes you pray to Motorola to also signature check /system. Almost.

What's the deal with raceagainstthecage? Isn't that what we used to root XT720?

syrenz said:
What's the deal with raceagainstthecage? Isn't that what we used to root XT720?
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Indeed. We use rageagainstthecage to install superuser and then we use superuser instead of rageagainstthecage to get root afterwards. Superuser is designed to be well behaved and everything else is built to cooperate and behave with superuser. The trojaned apps use rageagainstthecage to basically do whatever they want. It doesn't use superuser, so you don't see any notifications.

that's for all the info Mioze7Ae
that's very insightful

As far as I see I did not install one of these apps- but I would like to know anyway what should be done if one did install a malicious app- just remove it? Or better reflash the rom?
Theres already a thread for a patch here at xda:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=977154
And somebody developed an apk to search for an infection and to create a so-called stop file to prevent infections in future.
DroidDreamKiller

Is this really checked thoroughly?
'Cause I know at least Finger Race isn't malware at all.

Vistaus said:
Is this really checked thoroughly?
'Cause I know at least Finger Race isn't malware at all.
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I think clone apps were showing up. You really have to pay attention to the developer
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exactly many legit apps and games
were cloned, then injected with Trojan, and then release back to android market.
it confuses the hell out of people

ronnbon said:
As far as I see I did not install one of these apps- but I would like to know anyway what should be done if one did install a malicious app- just remove it? Or better reflash the rom?
Theres already a thread for a patch here at xda:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=977154
And somebody developed an apk to search for an infection and to create a so-called stop file to prevent infections in future.
DroidDreamKiller
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Apparently droiddream creates a /system/bin/profile as part of it's install process (doesn't exist otherwise). Creating that file tricks the current version of "droiddream" into thinking it's already been installed. The apps have been pulled from the market, so you won't be able to install it anyway without sideloading and you should always be cautious about that. I don't think /system/bin/profile trick will do much if anything to prevent the next version of this attack. Working around /system/bin/profile existing is trivial.
What would be better is some way to prevent rageagainstthecage. Once we've got root and superuser, we don't need rageagainstthecage anymore. Finding a new kernel exploit would be a slightly bigger hurdle for the bad guys. Too bad we can't patch our kernels. Thanks, moto for protecting the end users. /s

Then why didn't I have problems with Finger Race? Please explain.
And if it really was malware, then I should've already had problems when I first started to using it on Symbian and Nokia would've removed it from the Ovi Store by now.
But still, even with the Android-version, I don't have any problems with it. So please explain.

because the version that you have is probably the legit one, and not the imitation
the imitation is identical in every way, except that it has additional malware added in
also the stuff that it does to your phone, is in the background, you will never know about it, just like a windows malware, once on, it takes a lot of work, or a full wipe to remove

Just so everyone's aware, they found about 50 more apps with malware. http://blog.mylookout.com/2011/05/s...ew-malware-from-the-developers-of-droiddream/

Well, I've been saying since it started that google should fix the rage exploit, and that we should even be hoping/asking for it. I usually got flamed as a moron by noobs saying I clearly didn't even know what rage was for, haha. Of course I was using a device that didn't have a locked bootloader at the time, so root kernels were an option. Still root can be obtained from flashing the non-kernel part of the ROM too. These exploits are a mixed blessing. They ARE a major security hole on Google's part.
Anyway.. when I have to go through 15 apps to find one good one that works on my phone, sometimes I wish I had an iphone and less free stuff. Guess I better delete that super sex positions app now

[New App] AirDroid Lets Your Desktop Control Your Android Phone Over WiFi

For those who spend a lot of time looking at a computer, and can't be bothered to look at their phone very often, Sand Studio has introduced AirDroid, an app that allows users to control their Android Phone from a computer via WiFi.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WfNnQxpw7Uw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfXRhSIm-m0
The great thing about AirDroid is that it works - it's easy to start up, and functions flawlessly (in my experience). The interface is also very polished - mimicking a desktop launcher complete with moveable icons, a task bar, and controls that allow you to do just about anything.
One of the most impressive features is the ability to access SMS messages, manage them, and send messages right from a web browser. Users can also manage contacts, uninstall/backup apps (AirDroid will download your apps as apk files), browse files, access the Android Market, and manage music and ringtones, in addition to the ability to look at phone information from CPU status to battery level and beyond.
Best of all, AirDroid is completely free from the Android Market. With all the powerful features it offers, this app is certainly worth checking out.
ITS FREE
DOWNLOAD
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sand.airdroid&feature=search_result

the market is blocked my country
can someone put mirror please

mehdi.moha said:
the market is blocked my country
can someone put mirror please
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befarmain
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=AURZDHQ2

wish i could send and recieve whatsapp messages from it...
edit: just installed the app..sometimes the app makes the phone go crazy!! i have to logout fro the browser or turn off wifi for the phone to become normal.

This is without a doubt 'the best' app for controlling your phone from your browser. I've installed and played with many and this one tops the lot in my opinion.
It's clean, easy to use, great interface (both on the phone and PC).
Side note: This thread would probably be much better off in General Android Apps and Themes forum - http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=530. The app isn't specific an LG Optimus.
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the market is blocked my country
can someone put mirror please
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It's also available on the official website: http://www.airdroid.com/apk/airdroid_1127.apk

saw this in a google search, was just about to post in the GNote forum....
Anyone else used this? Am very tempted, but concerned of legitimacy of app (never heard of devs and truly paranoid about security )
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SpyderTracks said:
Anyone else used this? Am very tempted, but concerned of legitimacy of app (never heard of devs and truly paranoid about security )
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I'm a little hesitant to try out apps like this as well but they have nothing but good feedback on the market and a good following on both Facebook and Google+, as well as having their own website, so I was happy to give it ago.

@smackdownn Yeah I am with you on the whatsapp, this app is brilliant.
@Nucleotide & SpyderTracks Seriously? Whats the issue with privacy? Scared these devs are going to email or sms your gf while you are out? Either that or learn to hide your porn somewhere that is not your phone. I have said this before on so many occasions, when you were using a nokia/winmo/other NON android phone, they sneakily NEVER asked for permissions, but you installed apps that could pretty much do anything on your phone anyway
This app is by far the best solution I have tried in this regard, it just works and damn well too

@Cornelha
Lol.... I get what you're saying, but I think it's a little naive... the information we hold on smartphones these days compared to "our old nokias" means security is vital. After years of dodgy torrents, malware and hacked accounts, I've learnt to take it a bit more seriously, albeit probably to the extreme
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This app is fantastic. We were the first to review it:
http://www.androidstatic.com/must-have-air-droid-lets-you-control-your-phone-from-your-browser

SpyderTracks said:
Lol.... I get what you're saying, but I think it's a little naive... the information we hold on smartphones these days compared to "our old nokias" means security is vital. After years of dodgy torrents, malware and hacked accounts, I've learnt to take it a bit more seriously, albeit probably to the extreme
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I agree. I don't have anything I would call "sensitive data" on my phone but I do have a lot of contact information such as names, addresses, email addresses, phone numbers and other information which although not really sensitive, I still don't want other people to have - especially if I don't know about it. Not only that but apps can track your location, the buttons you press on your phone, numbers dialed, text messages sent, websites you visited, and the list goes on.
With that in mind I take caution when installing any app. I check for things like the amount of reviews on the market, the quality of the reviews (good vs. bad), does the developer have a website, a Facebook page with a good following, and so on.

one of the best app i ever know
good job mate

slow files transfers but great app !

have been using it for about 2 days and I have to say it is great...downloading files takes a very long to though
-love the SMS from desktop feature and comes very handy for different ROM users when putting files on devices

Love this app
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA

i love this app!!!! i wish it would have a feature like an android simulator as well so we can open certain apps like whatsapp via mac/pc...

I have been using Lazy Droid but after using this for couple of days, I have uninstalled Lazy Droid. Nice app. thanks

I love AirDroid!!! It helps me to transfer photos and files from my phone to my PC wirelessly. I don't need to carry my cable anywhere with me. It's a great app. Nice job!

what do you have to install on the PC? if you want to link a PC to smartphone, for example

FASAR said:
what do you have to install on the PC? if you want to link a PC to smartphone, for example
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You don't need to install on the PC. You just need to open the browser and visit web.airdroid.com to log in. Then you can manage you phone on the web. Easy, right?

Ionroad Augmented reality

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.picitup.iOnRoad
I found this app on android market and i have tried it. This is a great app and it does what it says!
It warns in case of an incoming collision. It also shows the distance of the car in front of you.
And it can takes snapshots at a touch of your finger.
But one other great feature is that it tells you where you have parked using google maps and by taking a photo of what the camera last saw.
Im am not the developer of this app and i am not promoting. This is a free app that i thought it is cool to share.
Cheers.
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Not tested yet but it looks cool! and definitely useful...
Nice find, thanks for sharing

xdaid said:
Not tested yet but it looks cool! and definitely useful...
Nice find, thanks for sharing
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yes looks useful especially if you are on the road for many hours. and it also has the ability to start user appointed apps.

Ads in the Notification Area.
Dont update to the newest Version. (around 9. Mai 2012)
You will receive at random times push Ads in the Notification Area without accutaly having started the app. There is absolutly no hint to which programm is responsible for them until you uninstall iOnRoad and they stop. Very annoying and the reason for its recent negativ rating. I hope they are scrambling to fix this and might have fixed it already but I would just stay away from this app. The reason for my disgust ist that the developer does not seem to find it important to inform customers about his error or has done it on purpose. Either way is the wrong way.
Here is the mail I got back from iOnRoad Support Team. Thats what got me mad but to be fair my support request was not very diplomatic. For that it was probably acctualy a preaty calm answear.
Hi,
If you do not wish to get the ads you can upgrade to the pro
version here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.picitup.iOnRoad.pro
Or
disable them in the "About iOnRoad" section in iOnRoad's settings.
Best regards,
The iOnRoad Team
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I wish they would make the Rating system more precise. There are a bunch of factors that could help in making decisions.
Overral App Rating
Overral Rating of the Developer
Version Rating
Another thing I would not mind seeing as a Customer is a precise reason why a App needs certain Access Rights. That would maybe stop Wallpaper Programms to request about every access right there is for every other reason then the app was acctualy intended for.

i guess you are right, but if you actually disable ads from settings do they appear again? i can not test. i have moved away from android until Galaxy S3

a cool application, since i cant drive.. and slow connection to connect to gps too, maybe i use it later..

mariosraptor said:
i guess you are right, but if you actually disable ads from settings do they appear again? i can not test. i have moved away from android until Galaxy S3
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Well I am not sure the developer even understands what Ads we are all talking about. He either does not give a .... or he thinks everything is normal and we are talking about the normal Ads in the Programm. Either way over the past 2 days he earned himself over 100 1 Star Ratings for the App. It would probably be higher if People would even know that the Ads are comming from the iOnRoad App. If I would be him I would pull the Mai 9th Version off the Market and revert back to the last version that worked.

at the Argentina developers I saw the appendix which allows to glance for an obstacle... by means of the camera and, wireless connection.

[TIP] Does Android Really Need Antivirus ?

Does Android Really Need AntiVirus??
What good does it do?
Basically, we all know that these apps protect our phone from being infected with malicious files that we download everyday. Files from untrusted sites of course. It helps clean the phone if ever it gets infected. Question is, Is this true?
NOTE: All other sites except the playstore are classified as untrusted sites
Since Android is made out of the linux platform, it really is hard to penetrate. Studies show that linux systems are almost impenetrable to viruses or malicious files than most phones that are not based on these system. In fact based on experience, I have never heard of an Android phone being "infected" that seriously. Well, who knows.
Another factor is that, antivirus apps consume more battery life. It consumes 50% of battery life while on stand-by mode. It also makes the phone lag a bit since it is running even if you can't see it. It also lags start-up time since it takes a while to load.
Whether you decide to install or not, i'ts better safe than never... right?
I Am not in the favor of these apps. Moreover I dont use Them

Okay... So, what makes you an authority on antivirus on Android? What inside knowledge do you have that makes your opinion an actual valid one, especially when considering all the hundreds of reports of 1000's of malware apps running rampant on our "impenetrable" OS?

Like you've mentioned they are draining some serious batterylife in standby-mode but some like avast can be configured to not run till you start them. A few antivurs apps are coming with widgets, I'd highly recommend not using them because they are really slowing down the tablet and consume a huge amount of battery.
I practise the same approach with my PC, if you know what you are doing and how to do it a firewall + antivirus program may not be need but safe is safe. Android is a very open plattform so having a tool to keep the apps "honest" is not a bad thing in my opinion.

FloatingFatMan said:
Okay... So, what makes you an authority on antivirus on Android? What inside knowledge do you have that makes your opinion an actual valid one, especially when considering all the hundreds of reports of 1000's of malware apps running rampant on our "impenetrable" OS?
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Most of the antivirus are fake i dont knnow why they make them. Since Android is based on Linux, and Linux needs Super user Permissions to do most of the things especially when you want to harm the device ( viruses) you need to modify system (root) programs and bins/libs/modules which can only be done if you have the root permission. If you have ever used the Linux OS (like Ubuntu) you have to ask roots first before installing any s/w
eg:
Code:
sudo apt-get install
here, sudo is literally this
Code:
superuser-do

You're ignoring all the malware type apps that don't need root. All they need is novice users who aren't paying attention to the permissions list and go and install apps that aren't quite what they're pretending to be. THAT is the primary cause of infection on Android, and it IS an existing problem.

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You're ignoring all the malware type apps that don't need root. All they need is novice users who aren't paying attention to the permissions list and go and install apps that aren't quite what they're pretending to be. THAT is the primary cause of infection on Android, and it IS an existing problem.
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Time For some Source CODE !!
Can You get me an example of this ?? I will bring you the code asap

Why would I need to do that? Are you denying that there aren't 1000's of rogue apps out there, masquerading as legit apps, that are stuffed to the gills with malicious code?
Have you been living under a rock for the past few years? Are you still under that rock? I suggest moving out, perhaps into a cave with a view.

Calm Down Dude
Nachiket.Namjoshi said:
Does Android Really Need AntiVirus??
Whether you decide to install or not, i'ts better safe than never... right?
I Am not in the favor of these apps. Moreover I dont use Them
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Here You go !
FloatingFatMan said:
Why would I need to do that? Are you denying that there aren't 1000's of rogue apps out there, masquerading as legit apps, that are stuffed to the gills with malicious code?
Have you been living under a rock for the past few years? Are you still under that rock? I suggest moving out, perhaps into a cave with a view.
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Nachiket.Namjoshi said:
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You forget that most phone users are novices, and don't have a damned clue what they're doing when installing apps. I'm a professional developer by trade (not on Android), and if there's one thing I know very well, users do not read popup dialogs, ever. They just click the button to make it go away so they can get on with what they're doing.
You cannot use people on XDA as an example of what users are like. Most of us here actually have some tech savvy and know what we're doing, but we're less than 1% of the userbase.
Which makes antivirus apps, resource hogs that they are, pretty critical for the average user; to protect them from their own stupidity. Advising people NOT to use them is rather irresponsible of you, especially as you are NOT a security expert.

FloatingFatMan said:
You forget that most phone users are novices, and don't have a damned clue what they're doing when installing apps. I'm a professional developer by trade (not on Android), and if there's one thing I know very well, users do not read popup dialogs, ever. They just click the button to make it go away so they can get on with what they're doing.
You cannot use people on XDA as an example of what users are like. Most of us here actually have some tech savvy and know what we're doing, but we're less than 1% of the userbase.
Which makes antivirus apps, resource hogs that they are, pretty critical for the average user; to protect them from their own stupidity. Advising people NOT to use them is rather irresponsible of you, especially as you are NOT a security expert.
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Exactly. That is why I'm posting this here instead of a blog!! :')
Chillax buddy. Btw pdroid is better than antivirus apps bröder. I too am an app dev!
Sent from my GT-S5360 using xda app-developers app

I agree sir. this is true that some apps do such notorious things. but as a member of xda I am very care full about the permissions.

SHORTER
shorter: all files from internet cannot normaly harm your phone but if you download apk and instal it you can have problems (depends on app permisions) BUT it cannot totaly destroy your phone without SU permision (superuser)
normal files like mp3 mp4 cannot do anything
SORRY FOR MY ENGLISH and hit thanks if helped

FloatingFatMan said:
Why would I need to do that? Are you denying that there aren't 1000's of rogue apps out there, masquerading as legit apps, that are stuffed to the gills with malicious code?
Have you been living under a rock for the past few years? Are you still under that rock? I suggest moving out, perhaps into a cave with a view.
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This is exactly what happens. This thread is really pointless. I can copy your whole data while you are busy making threads like these or block access to any of your apps while I'm running. Antivirus is not just something which protects you against so called viruses but also malicious apps.

I agree, though AV's like avast and dr.web which are considered "light" still consumes a lot from my phone. I have observed that lately even though I have deep sleep app on my phone , I whitelisted the AV's it tooks at around 30-50% of my battery. I don't want to automatically kill the AV because it will become useless if it doesn't run on background. so I decided to just uninstall it and get my apk downloads from PC so that avast and malwarebytes on pc will be the ones that will scan my apks.