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Not sure if this belongs in general or not, but just wanted to give everyone a heads up.
Last night I torn my phone apart to try and be the first one to do the palm inductive charger hack on a sensation, but once I got to the lower circuit board I noticed that the usb pins are way too close to the chip set and are permanently shielded with a metal shroud. I also noticed that there are no + or - terminals like on the EVO so it looks like a no-go for us so far.
Just a warning so you don't waste money on buying the palm stuff and tearing your phone apart.
Hmm, I just did a mod on my Galaxy Nexus (easy due to the pogo pins) and am pretty determined to do it on the wifes Sensation. I work with micro-miniature solder technicians so I'm not worried about that, guess I'll have to cut the shroud away to expose the USB connector though. That might get a little messy. I'll post pics if I can get it to work! Honestly, with the popularity of this phone, I'm surprised nobody has gotten the high WAF mod to work yet.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1283200
This guy made it work with a Sensation.
Daiskei said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1283200
This guy made it work with a Sensation.
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Yep, and I commented in that thread as well lol.
kpjimmy said:
Yep, and I commented in that thread as well lol.
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Oh... Hah... Ooops!
farfromovin said:
Hmm, I just did a mod on my Galaxy Nexus (easy due to the pogo pins) and am pretty determined to do it on the wifes Sensation. I work with micro-miniature solder technicians so I'm not worried about that, guess I'll have to cut the shroud away to expose the USB connector though. That might get a little messy. I'll post pics if I can get it to work! Honestly, with the popularity of this phone, I'm surprised nobody has gotten the high WAF mod to work yet.
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I think the biggest issue is the unibody case. Even if you get the soldering, or conductive glue down the inductive current won't make it through the stock case. I tried. You'll have to sandwich the inductive circuit between the phone and case.
I have since removed the inductive circuit because the tiny (prob around 32 gauge) wire broke and I didn't feel like rebuilding it. Assuming you could get the circuitry down using the positive resistor you might be able to solder a larger coil that may pick up through the case. If you figure it out I would be thrilled to know how you did it.
The only real reason I wanted to do it was because no one had done it on our phones yet. Good luck!
Nice find on that old thread. I've been wanting to do the same with my Sensation. Any idea about the fatty Mugen case? Just picked one up for $20. Seems a lot cheaper. Is the problem with the OEM case metal in the housing? Maybe this Mugen is all plastic.
There's a ton of space between the sim/sdcard and the housing (for the housing to be able to accommodate the double battery) and may be the perfect spot.
My idea is to hide a dozen rechargeable AA's or so inside a leather belt and have a holster (or pocket powermat). Seems like an actual reasonable use for inductive charging. Of course, it's just conceptual at this point. I need to determine if AA's are actually feasible (comfort and style wise) and whatever the inefficiencies are with inductive charging.
Looking to be able to go a week or so without having to recharge the phone/belt (figure I'm running through 1500mah every 10 hours or so, less when sleeping).
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Nice find on that old thread. I've been wanting to do the same with my Sensation. Any idea about the fatty Mugen case? Just picked one up for $20. Seems a lot cheaper. Is the problem with the OEM case metal in the housing? Maybe this Mugen is all plastic.
There's a ton of space between the sim/sdcard and the housing (for the housing to be able to accommodate the double battery) and may be the perfect spot.
My idea is to hide a dozen rechargeable AA's or so inside a leather belt and have a holster (or pocket powermat). Seems like an actual reasonable use for inductive charging. Of course, it's just conceptual at this point. I need to determine if AA's are actually feasible (comfort and style wise) and whatever the inefficiencies are with inductive charging.
Looking to be able to go a week or so without having to recharge the phone/belt (figure I'm running through 1500mah every 10 hours or so, less when sleeping).
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That sounds good, but with the weight of the rechargeables may pose a issue when it comes to portability when you are talking about a dozen of them. Why not just carry along a power bank? I have a 10000mAh one that charges two devices at once and is no bigger than a phone.
I mean I love the idea of inductive charging. I mean the GSIII has the option to do so.
I got one of these recently for my vacation. It takes AA batteries which is easily available or you can use rechargeables.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Emergency-U...124278?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item2a1aac4676
I think I'll try this one out but I do have one question. Is having 1 pin (assuming it is 5v) enough to complete the circuit? Doesn't it need a ground lead somewhere?
The pic is from http://www.qianqin.de/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/microusb.jpg
I don't understand your picture. Yes, you need a ground to complete the circuit. And without manipulating the data pins, you will be limited to a charge rate of 100mA.
ladys and gentlemen. assuming you are happy with only the 100ma cap then could you not logically just connect the wires to the battery terminals and allow that to charge it. leaving the usb port free?? i have had to do this once or twice in emergency situations when i didnt have the correct charging cable but had a damaged usb + laptop.
Yes, you will need to ground to any metal point to complete the circuit. I just sandwiched the wire between the sim and metal sim holder.
I'm in the process of doing the same thing to my Sensation. I wanted to make sure that the Touchstone charger would support the weight of my phone in it's case, so I took the short cut of using parts from a microUSB charger to route from the induction coil terminals to the charge port. I'm halfway through routing all the necessary connections to go through the board instead of the charge port. In the attached picture, I've highlighted 2 test points that will let you route your +5v line into the board. I'll use the metal housing of the sim card reader to attach the ground.
hxxp://i.imgur.com/koag4.png
Since the back of the phone is metal and its always going to be in a case I'm going to have to use pogo plugs or some other form of metal contacts to go through the back housing to allow me to pull off the case/back whenever I need. I'll have my charge port free to use over USB as well
Did you get it working?
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I'm in the process of doing the same thing to my Sensation. I wanted to make sure that the Touchstone charger would support the weight of my phone in it's case, so I took the short cut of using parts from a microUSB charger to route from the induction coil terminals to the charge port. I'm halfway through routing all the necessary connections to go through the board instead of the charge port. In the attached picture, I've highlighted 2 test points that will let you route your +5v line into the board. I'll use the metal housing of the sim card reader to attach the ground.
hxxp://i.imgur.com/koag4.png
Since the back of the phone is metal and its always going to be in a case I'm going to have to use pogo plugs or some other form of metal contacts to go through the back housing to allow me to pull off the case/back whenever I need. I'll have my charge port free to use over USB as well
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Hi there, I have a htc sensation with a broken usb port and want to use it for inductive charging instead. So im wondering if you managed to ever get it working?
Regards Shaun.
I did!, but not with pogo plugs for an elegant solution. I ended up just running the wires from the inductive charger through a hole drilled into the metal back and than routed to the pad shown in the picture and the sim card metal housing.
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I did!, but not with pogo plugs for an elegant solution. I ended up just running the wires from the inductive charger through a hole drilled into the metal back and than routed to the pad shown in the picture and the sim card metal housing.
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Did you have difficulty with the metal backing interfering with the induction charger?
I finally got it working! I had to use the usb port so I'll need to get a touchstone for work, home and car but it is pretty sweet. It is pretty straight forward, but the hardest part was cutting the usb in half and soldering on it. I used http://www.qianqin.de/2011/09/18/samsung-galaxy-s-wireless-inductive-charging-mod/ as a reference. The wiring for the (+) is in the pics, but for the (-) I just slipped the black wire through one of the small holes in the bottom of the back cover and sandwiched it between the sim card and the metal sim holder to gain a ground.
I know it's not elegant, but I just wanted to share. As far as I know no one else has done this with a sensation.
Wow, that's pretty cool man.
Nice work mate, I love seeing people experiment and come up with new things
Nice!
I think there was another person that tried but didn't get it working because he was using his stock cover and also said he couldn't get past some of the wiring. I forget but I think it had to do with the sd card being in the way or something.
But good job in getting it done!
Can something like this be done to keep from cutting the usb?
http://www.qianqin.de/2011/09/28/high-waf-inductive-charging-mod/
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Nice!
I think there was another person that tried but didn't get it working because he was using his stock cover and also said he couldn't get past some of the wiring. I forget but I think it had to do with the sd card being in the way or something.
But good job in getting it done!
Can something like this be done to keep from cutting the usb?
http://www.qianqin.de/2011/09/28/high-waf-inductive-charging-mod/
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Unless you have a industrial grade precision solder station I doubt it. The internals are too small and crowded unlike the HTC EVO or Incredible. Believe me I tried; my phone has been completely broken down around 4 times already.
Share the process
Show us how you did this ! post some in depth pictures or do a small tutorial or something... I gotta know lol
Anyone else got this working? I am looking at getting a micro usb male connector and a palm touchstone kit.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1P-5-Pin-Mi...70?pt=Camera_Cables_Cords&hash=item27bf534f9e
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Palm-Tou...303436?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item43aa7faf0c
I was thinking of the same thing and I have the otterbox I was thinking of a way to attach the micro USB to the cover over the port.
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Anyone else got this working? I am looking at getting a micro usb male connector and a palm touchstone kit.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1P-5-Pin-Mi...70?pt=Camera_Cables_Cords&hash=item27bf534f9e
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Palm-Tou...303436?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item43aa7faf0c
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That definitely would be easier than cutting into one, but the actual metal "plug" portion of the usb is too long. My pics are really blurry but I had to remove the pins, separate the inner plastic and outer metal, cut both in half and surgically bend the + pin into a square "J" shape, glue it in place, reinstall the metal casing and solder the pin to the wire without melting the plastic bit that holds the pin. It was a B!TCH!
Even though I cut the connector in half (actually closer to 2/5) it still sticks out just a bit unfortunately. There is a positive resistor inside the phone that could be used, but things are so tight that I doubt anyone short of a surgeon could solder to it.
nice job mate
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Instead of soldering and dealing with melted plastic, is it possible to use conductive glue? I have never used something like this especially if I am trying to send some decent power though this.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/No-Solderin...630?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f0f745c0e
i don't believe in god's i know believe in you!
wondering that how you gonna transfer your data to via usb?
I don't plan to transfer anything through usb. Everything will be transferred via wifi + astro.
Great job! Are you thinking of selling these? I'd buy one!
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Unless you have a industrial grade precision solder station I doubt it. The internals are too small and crowded unlike the HTC EVO or Incredible. Believe me I tried; my phone has been completely broken down around 4 times already.
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I'm in the process of doing the same thing to my Sensation. I wanted to make sure that the Touchstone charger would support the weight of my phone in it's case, so I took the short cut of using parts from a microUSB charger to route from the induction coil terminals to the charge port. I'm halfway through routing all the necessary connections to go through the board instead of the charge port. In the attached picture, I've highlighted 2 test points that will let you route your +5v line into the board. I'll use the metal housing of the sim card reader to attach the ground.
hxxp://i.imgur.com/koag4.png
Since the back of the phone is metal and its always going to be in a case I'm going to have to use pogo plugs or some other form of metal contacts to go through the back housing to allow me to pull off the case/back whenever I need. I'll have my charge port free to use over USB as well
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I'm in the process of doing the same thing to my Sensation. I wanted to make sure that the Touchstone charger would support the weight of my phone in it's case, so I took the short cut of using parts from a microUSB charger to route from the induction coil terminals to the charge port. I'm halfway through routing all the necessary connections to go through the board instead of the charge port. In the attached picture, I've highlighted 2 test points that will let you route your +5v line into the board. I'll use the metal housing of the sim card reader to attach the ground.
hxxp://i.imgur.com/koag4.png
Since the back of the phone is metal and its always going to be in a case I'm going to have to use pogo plugs or some other form of metal contacts to go through the back housing to allow me to pull off the case/back whenever I need. I'll have my charge port free to use over USB as well
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can you make a full tutorial ?
ti will help a lot of users
Once I finish it,I will.
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Im not sure what does this mod do ? Sorry for my noobness lol
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The inductive charging mod lets you charge your device by simply putting it on a base.
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The dock is obviously great if you don't mind paying for it or get it free. However it's a bit clunky to carry around with you (if using a portable external battery) or in a car.
It's not a great option having to remove the waterproof flap all the time to charge as well.
So I got to thinking, could one modify an old mini / micro usb cable (I've tons of old micro ones laying around), so that the +/- cables go straight to the metal contacts on the Xz. I assume it is just a case of +/- on the docking connector? Would it matter if they were connected the wrong way...?
It'll be a bit of an in-elegant solution but to start with I was thinking of some bluetack and some sort of spacing connector bar to quickly press onto / pull off the phone.
I am pretty sure the polarity would matter, as it would be DC. However this is easy enough to check using a multimeter on the dock.
Good luck
For in-car use, I personally would put the sony charger there for the moment.
Brodit the in car holder maker will also make a version of holder which will use the contacts, but not sure when that will be out.
I'm wondering now if it might not be easier just to wait for a cheap chinese dock to come out on ebay. The dock's also got an advantage it'll hold your phone nicely if you want to use it with an external keyboard, or watch a film for example.
Just not keen on spending £25 on one.
I think it would be pretty easy to make your own, for the electrics would it just be a case of cutting the micro usb connector off then attaching red + black wires?
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I am pretty sure the polarity would matter, as it would be DC. However this is easy enough to check using a multimeter on the dock.
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Could someone with a dock check and post it?
Would be great.
This would be so cool. If it was like the Magsafe connectors on Macbooks it would be ideal. Probably not for me though. Hope you can do it.
Exactly what I was thinking off..
Taking the +/- 5V from the USB cable is not a problem. The main challenge is how to mount the 2 wires onto the metal contacts!
Removing the flaps has been pretty troublesome so far, especially when you're rushing off to somewhere and ya gotta use the GPS..
MasK said:
Exactly what I was thinking off..
Taking the +/- 5V from the USB cable is not a problem. The main challenge is how to mount the 2 wires onto the metal contacts!
Removing the flaps has been pretty troublesome so far, especially when you're rushing off to somewhere and ya gotta use the GPS..
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copper foil would be easiest way to make the contacts, I've used it a few times in the past with my DIY wireless chargers
MasK said:
Exactly what I was thinking off..
Taking the +/- 5V from the USB cable is not a problem. The main challenge is how to mount the 2 wires onto the metal contacts!
Removing the flaps has been pretty troublesome so far, especially when you're rushing off to somewhere and ya gotta use the GPS..
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I think that the biggest challange will be finding someone who will tell us which pin is + .....
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has anyone got a dock yet?
The 3rd party stockists haven't shipped them yet have they? The bundle/deal is a post out one..
made a sort of dock, using 2 pins from a computer molex connector + foil, held the correct distance apart with glue from a hot glue gun, but need to wait until someone can find out the polarity before trying it!
I have exactly the same DIY idea but I want to kill two birds in one stone – wireless charging and MagSafe type of mobile charging interface.
I target for Xperia Z for its IPX protection and 4G. Being an IPX certified device, the port covers are important that I don’t know why Sony doesn’t have wireless charging just like its competitor Panasonic (model P-02E has both wireless charging and replaceable battery) having. The charging dock can solve this shortcoming a bit but the dock is only good for placing at home or in the office. When charging with external battery pack on the road, the it is better to have some handy charging cable to charge through the 2-pin. Then MagSafe type of cable is a good candidate.
Googled a bit and found a flip case (Muvit Qi Wireless Charging Kit for Sony Xperia Z) with Qi charging ready and I wonder it is utilizing the 2-pin as well. If I do the DIY, I will use a thin plastic case with the following components:
1) attach a Qi/Touchstone charging coil at the inner back side of the case
2) on side edge of the case facing the 2-pin of the device, I will attach a new 2-pin port with 2 small iron plate on each end, the 2-pin will connect to the charging coil and acts as the connector for the 2-pin of the device and piggy-back to the dock for charging
3) MagSafe type of charging cable is made by a normal USB cable with one end chopped to make a 2-pin connector with 2 small permanent magnets on each end for attaching to the iron plate mounted on the case above
Great idea Kimmy, looking forward to your work! Let us know what parts you use and where you get them! Would be great !
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I was thinking of a simple clip onto the side over the pogo pins.
Has anyone got the polarity yet?
Those of you who maybe reading this and have the dock already please check the polarity.
And we have an answer!
The + is the upper pin, - is the lower
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38868648
Time to start playing
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I've just built my mark1 dock from a few bits of spare wood and an old sony ericsson ct75 charger plug( from an old powermat powercube), I just moved the spring loaded pins on CT75 plug a little further apart to mate a little more comfortably with the contacts on the XZ.
Cost absolutley nothing so although it looks rubish I'm happy to have a working dock. and not have to open the charger flap anymore. Tomorrow I might cover it in soft black cloth and i'm sure it'll look much better.
I'm going to bend a bit of black or clear Acrylic for my next dock because it looks like you can get away with a kind of z profile, I'm also thinking about making something for my car
jimsey said:
I've just built my mark1 dock from a few bits of spare wood and an old sony ericsson ct75 charger plug( from an old powermat powercube), I just moved the spring loaded pins on CT75 plug a little further apart to mate a little more comfortably with the contacts on the XZ.
Cost absolutley nothing so although it looks rubish I'm happy to have a working dock. and not have to open the charger flap anymore. Tomorrow I might cover it in soft black cloth and i'm sure it'll look much better.
I'm going to bend a bit of black or clear Acrylic for my next dock because it looks like you can get away with a kind of z profile, I'm also thinking about making something for my car
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This is really cool, I have been working on something similar, but was having a hard time finding suitable pins(Tried just bare wire and foil!), Never thought of using the pits from an old Sony Ericsson charger
antipesto93 said:
This is really cool, I have been working on something similar, but was having a hard time finding suitable pins(Tried just bare wire and foil!), Never thought of using the pits from an old Sony Ericsson charger
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yeah I wanted spring loaded pins and came across the old sony charger adapter when looking through my box of spares.
I opened up the jack and the pins just slide out with some careful pulling and slide back into another position, I then trimmed off the 2 prongs sony use to hold the charger into the phone, then it was just a case of fixing the jack in place with some hot glue.
the other idea i had was nabbing the battery contacts out of one of my daughters old toys, or making contacts from copper foil, but i'm happy with this result.
As i said I'll cover it in Black felt or plether tomorrow, and i'm sure it look much neater
What about instead of making a dock, just making a small, magnetized connector that attaches directly to the pins?
I'm still waiting for the phone to be released here so cant experiment but do you think this could be achievable?
I'm going to have a go at a small clip on using sugru/silicon rubber
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Hi everyone,
I am waiting for my S5 to come within a few days and in the meantime I'm browsing around in a search for a car mount. I came across this one on amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Mountek-nGroo...sim_cps_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=0A24M5KGJ6GW57GE14ZT
It says it's cradle-less, and there it holds on a magnet. I have never used this type of mounts before, so I am a bit concerned about magnets affecting the phone's performance.... Any insight (or suggestions) are greatly appreciated.
Also, I saw another one like that, but there is a metal insert that has to be put under the back cover. Do you think it will affect the water/dust seal?
Thank you
Lohmatiy said:
Hi everyone,
I am waiting for my S5 to come within a few days and in the meantime I'm browsing around in a search for a car mount. I came across this one on amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Mountek-nGroo...sim_cps_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=0A24M5KGJ6GW57GE14ZT
It says it's cradle-less, and there it holds on a magnet. I have never used this type of mounts before, so I am a bit concerned about magnets affecting the phone's performance.... Any insight (or suggestions) are greatly appreciated.
Also, I saw another one like that, but there is a metal insert that has to be put under the back cover. Do you think it will affect the water/dust seal?
Thank you
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Wrong link?
I have this one http://www.amazon.com/iMagnet-Cradl...&qid=1397234384&sr=1-1&keywords=imagnet+mount
...and i freaking love it for the note 2. Magnet is the only way i can go for car mounts now. If you don't care about wireless charging, the metal plate has no impact (in my experience) on the phone and is thin enough to sit right between the battery cover and the battery, at least on the note 2. I'm actively investigating options for a magnet mount with the S5, although i need wireless charging and the two don't get along (can't have metal between the phone's coil and the charging pad).
I have this one and I'll never buy anything different. Super small, super strong, and it looks sharp.
http://www.amazon.com/Nite-Ize-STCK...=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1397235310&sr=1-1
That is all.
tdrussell said:
Wrong link?
I have this one http://www.amazon.com/iMagnet-Cradl...&qid=1397234384&sr=1-1&keywords=imagnet+mount
...and i freaking love it for the note 2. Magnet is the only way i can go for car mounts now. If you don't care about wireless charging, the metal plate has no impact (in my experience) on the phone and is thin enough to sit right between the battery cover and the battery, at least on the note 2. I'm actively investigating options for a magnet mount with the S5, although i need wireless charging and the two don't get along (can't have metal between the phone's coil and the charging pad).
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Thank you for the reply. It helps.
Yes, my bad - the link was to the Cradle version. You had to click on "snap" rectangle on the page. My mistake. And that's what I ordered for now... (snap version)
Also, i came over this thing in another thread and it seems to be exactly what we are looking for. the only problem - it IS pricey) and it won't ship until end of May at least. (wireless charger and magnet mount at the same time).
http://www.theairdock.com/
e_town said:
I have this one and I'll never buy anything different. Super small, super strong, and it looks sharp.
http://www.amazon.com/Nite-Ize-STCK...=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1397235310&sr=1-1
That is all.
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Thank you. I saw this one on Amazon today. Is it glued on to the dashboard? Can you detach it? I don't want any glue leftovers in a leased car...)
I have the imagnet. Used for my s3 between the phone and uag case. I love quick access to the phone on and off the mount. I just got my s5 but won't be in my truck til Monday to test it, but I don't foresee any problems.
I thought about a magnet mount for a while.
Car mounts should be simple, and quick. But most require you to either use 2 hands, and some 2 step process. Or you have to buy one that works quickly, but only without a case.
Then I found this DashCrab Duet
Sticks like glue, and easy one handed operation. The price is more than those cheap'o cradles, but much less than the high end ones. I've never been happier with a car mount.
tetrex clips on the vent... uses 4 small neodium megnet...
http://www.amazon.com/Tetrax-72003-...e=UTF8&qid=1397342935&sr=8-11&keywords=tetrax
i'm not about to "Stick" anything to my fancy car. I have the mountek, and stopped using it. it sticks out so much from the cd drive, and gs350 has a funny looking CD drive that didn't play nicely with mountek.
I should mention that the Dash Crab, sticks very well, but it is just a suction cup, no adhesive.
http://www.scosche.com/magicmount
this one looks promising. I might get it if I can find a nice spot in my car to place it
Just reporting back on the imagnet mount with my s5. Works just like it did with my s3. Slid the little piece of metal between the cover and phone and it pops right on. Should note that the imagnet has one of those awesome suction cups that doesn't fail. Mine has been stuck on my dash since I bought it and never came off even through temperature swings. GPS isn't affected either.
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-air-dock/x/4205378
http://www.theairdock.com/
Ignite023 said:
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-air-dock/x/4205378
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Unfortunately the air dock is probably a non-starter for the S5:
How does the micro suction foam work?
The micro suction foam face is pretty cool. Imagine a whole bunch of tiny little suction cups. That's what we have used to hold phones to the Air Dock. Full size suction cups need a smooth glossy surface to stick to. Similarly the micro suction foam needs a smooth glossy phone to hold onto.Any phone with a glossy back will stick great to the micro suction foam. If your phone isn't glossy on the back, then it's just a simple matter of putting it in a case that is smooth and glossy.
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Unfortunately the air dock is probably a non-starter for the S5:
How does the micro suction foam work?
The micro suction foam face is pretty cool. Imagine a whole bunch of tiny little suction cups. That's what we have used to hold phones to the Air Dock. Full size suction cups need a smooth glossy surface to stick to. Similarly the micro suction foam needs a smooth glossy phone to hold onto.Any phone with a glossy back will stick great to the micro suction foam. If your phone isn't glossy on the back, then it's just a simple matter of putting it in a case that is smooth and glossy.
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That's an outdated description. The suction is backed by magnets:
The face of the Air Dock is a micro suction foam that holds your phone in place. Inside the Air Dock are magnets that pull the phone tightly into the foam face. The qi wireless charger is built into the dock. Any phone that supports Qi charging will automatically charge once placed on the Air Dock
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http://www.theairdock.com/pages/faq
Ignite023 said:
That's an outdated description. The suction is backed by magnets:
http://www.theairdock.com/pages/faq
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i kinda have a thing for magnets. I'm sitting here with my S5 and an N52 neodymium magnet that will hold 6.5 lbs. There is not a place on the back of the S5 that it will stick strong enough to resist a light shake of the device. He mentions the N5 and N7 so it may work with those devices (since they were orignially designed to work with the official nexus magnetic Qi charger) but i do not see any way for this work with the S5.
tdrussell said:
i kinda have a thing for magnets. I'm sitting here with my S5 and an N52 neodymium magnet that will hold 6.5 lbs. There is not a place on the back of the S5 that it will stick strong enough to resist a light shake of the device. He mentions the N5 and N7 so it may work with those devices (since they were orignially designed to work with the official nexus magnetic Qi charger) but i do not see any way for this work with the S5.
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I used to use the iMagnet mount in my car and it came with a really thin circular piece of metal that was meant to be stuck on the outside of your phone's back cover. I took it and instead stuck it to the inside of the back cover - it holds extremely well. I used it on the S4 and now the S5. If you use a case then you can just stick it on the back cover between the case and the phone. I don't use a case and didn't want that to take away from the devices appeal.
Ignite023 said:
I used to use the iMagnet mount in my car and it came with a really thin circular piece of metal that was meant to be stuck on the outside of your phone's back cover. I took it and instead stuck it to the inside of the back cover - it holds extremely well. I used it on the S4 and now the S5. If you use a case then you can just stick it on the back cover between the case and the phone. I don't use a case and didn't want that to take away from the devices appeal.
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Oh definitely, i have an iMagnet mount as well. The tricky part is that you can't put ferrous metals inside an induction field. Not only will it disrupt the induction field, they get hot. So, in order to incorporate both magnets and inductive charging into a solution, you need to have the magnets placed outside the plane of the induction field on the Z axis or, or around the outside of the field in the Y axis (assuming induction field is on the Z plane).
At one point i decided if i had to choose between iMagnet and Qi, i picked Qi. Then i decided i wanted both - so i made my own mount using small neodymium magnets at the 4 corners of the backplate of my note 2 and cannibalized an old ball-socket car mount, made a new plate, and adhered 4 matching magnet's to a flat plate to mate the phone to. So you CAN have your cake and eat it too, the implementation is just a little tricky.
tdrussell said:
Oh definitely, i have an iMagnet mount as well. The tricky part is that you can't put ferrous metals inside an induction field. Not only will it disrupt the induction field, they get hot. So, in order to incorporate both magnets and inductive charging into a solution, you need to have the magnets placed outside the plane of the induction field on the Z axis or, or around the outside of the field in the Y axis (assuming induction field is on the Z plane).
At one point i decided if i had to choose between iMagnet and Qi, i picked Qi. Then i decided i wanted both - so i made my own mount using small neodymium magnets at the 4 corners of the backplate of my note 2 and cannibalized an old ball-socket car mount, made a new plate, and adhered 4 matching magnet's to a flat plate to mate the phone to. So you CAN have your cake and eat it too, the implementation is just a little tricky.
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Ah ok, I wasn't aware of that. Although, to be honest - I used to let my GS4 charge all of the time with no issues.
Hi folks,
Can any of you point me in the direction of a supplier of magnetic charging lead fit the z1 compact that will post to the UK at a sensible price?
Thanks.
John
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Jwsail said:
Hi folks,
Can any of you point me in the direction of a supplier of magnetic charging lead fit the z1 compact that will post to the UK at a sensible price?
Thanks.
John
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Cheers for that. That link proved just the job -I haven't ordered one from there, but it turns out what I thought was the obvious search term on ebay abs amazon wasn't
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Jwsail said:
Cheers for that. That link proved just the job -I haven't ordered one from there, but it turns out what I thought was the obvious search term on ebay abs amazon wasn't
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If I were you I wouldn't... The cable has an extremely weak magnet, it comes off at the slightest touch. It would be impossible to use whilst the phone is charging. I could have got the really cheap cable from Amazon but because of the reviews about it's weak magnet I instead got a more expensive cable from mobilefun.co.uk. Unfortunately it was the same poor quality cable.
theprince1991 said:
If I were you I wouldn't... The cable has an extremely weak magnet, it comes off at the slightest touch. It would be impossible to use whilst the phone is charging. I could have got the really cheap cable from Amazon but because of the reviews about it's weak magnet I instead got a more expensive cable from mobilefun.co.uk. Unfortunately it was the same poor quality cable.
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It's not that the magnet itself is weak, it's rather the design of it.
I can lift my phone with the magnet, even shake a little up and down without it falling off.
However, as you might know the easiest way to remove a magnet is to tilt/angle it, which the design of this magnet makes way too easy.
After all, the entire connector was designed around being mounted inside a charging stand, where the phone's angle to the connector would never change. Using it as a separate cable was never intended, the cable you can buy for example at dx-box is the very same cable that is supposed to be inside that charging stand.
I think if they designed a cable where the plastic around the magnet and the connectors was laying flush against the phone, tilting the cable would become less of an issue.
That said, I can use the phone just fine with the magnet connected as long as I don't pull on the cable, as the magnet is strong enough to handle the weight of the cable with no problem.
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It's not that the magnet itself is weak, it's rather the design of it.
I can lift my phone with the magnet, even shake a little up and down without it falling off.
However, as you might know the easiest way to remove a magnet is to tilt/angle it, which the design of this magnet makes way too easy.
After all, the entire connector was designed around being mounted inside a charging stand, where the phone's angle to the connector would never change. Using it as a separate cable was never intended, the cable you can buy for example at dx-box is the very same cable that is supposed to be inside that charging stand.
I think if they designed a cable where the plastic around the magnet and the connectors was laying flush against the phone, tilting the cable would become less of an issue.
That said, I can use the phone just fine with the magnet connected as long as I don't pull on the cable, as the magnet is strong enough to handle the weight of the cable with no problem.
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Yup you are 100% right. I can indeed lift the phone up using the connector. The problem is with the tilt/angle as you've already mentioned above.
any of you is using thie cable from witrigs ?
http://www.witrigs.com/custom-magnetic-charging-cable-for-sony-xperia-z1-compact-black
i am also considering the magnector X, but if i plan to replace back by glass one, then purchase of this from witrigs is better economically. But don't know how does it works? How is it with charging speed and battery life?
and the last one, anyone using this original cable? and how much is it "original" ?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Ori..._PDA_Cables_Adapters&var=&hash=item3f32e3085b
I've bought one from Amazon and returned it, the cable was falling off at the slightest touch and it was even difficult to set right to charge.
I wanted it for charging the phone in my car, which already has a usb socket adapter, but with the falling out problem it was a no-go from the start.
On the plus side, I ended up with a Supremery charging dock, which is cheaper than Sony and works better (for me at least).
I don't use it in the car - just to be clear
but was it the same from amazon that i linked, or something far cheaper, "branded " by Sony ?
How is it with battery life on Supremery charging dock? Do you see shorter life and longer charging? Am asking because some guys were complaining for those on not original dock.
Thanks
Try this one out, apparently its got fantastic build quality and a very strong magnet.
Every review I have seen has given it 5/5 and most people mentioned buying another for the car/office etc :good:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Magnector...al_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item4ad676cb92
they also do a standard cable...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Magnector...al_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item4ad676cb92
I really would like to buy this Magnector X cable but I have not found a good way to buy and ship this to Austria/Europe. Any ideas where I can buy this with realistic shipping prices to get this inside the european union?
I bought 2 pieces of Magnector directly from producer: http://magnector.com/?product=magnector-x-adaptersony-xperia-magnetic-adapter
Calculating with delivery to Slovakia it was around 26€.
I am more than satisfied with this product and totally recommend it.
You can have only problem if you are using some case. It is designed for use without it.
Just order this, http://dx-box.com/high-performance-...e-magnetic-connection-and-charging-speed.html
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Just order this, http://dx-box.com/high-performance-...e-magnetic-connection-and-charging-speed.html
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this is a copy paste fake of magnectox
in description it says"Perfect conversion adapter for Micro USB to Sony Xperia Z1 or Z2 OR Z1S Charging Cable
Premium Detailed Finish with complete retail package and adapter pouch
2 Times High Magnetic Power than original Sony Xperia Charging Cable
Maximum Charging Speed from Magnector's Enhanced Technology.
Applied "Reverse Attachment Charging Protection" Technology to protect your device
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this is a copy paste fake of magnectox "
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What do you mean by that?
What do you want to tell us with that?
Do you mean "Magnector X" ?
The Question is: Is it nevertheless a good product?
(I don't really care if they just copy&paste the description of another "premium" product)
I already ordered two of those cables so maybe I have wasted some euros on a cable no one of the posters above has ever tested?!
ViennaLinux said:
What do you mean by that?
What do you want to tell us with that?
Do you mean "Magnector X" ?
The Question is: Is it nevertheless a good product?
(I don't really care if they just copy&paste the description of another "premium" product)
I already ordered two of those cables so maybe I have wasted some euros on a cable no one of the posters above has ever tested?!: confused:
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Well let us know [emoji1]
I got this one and it is fine. Works a treat. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121400865231?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
snitter said:
I got this one and it is fine. Works a treat. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121400865231?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
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I have 3 of the dx-box ones:
http://dx-box.com/brand-new-magneti...dapter-for-sony-xperia-z1-xperia-z-ultra.html
The magnet may not be ask strong as the High Performance one, but its plenty strong enough for me. I use one in my car and the lead has never detached even when I have gone over pot holes or bumps in the road.
Also, at home I find it stays attached well enough for everyday usage.
Ordered from ebay same product as Sony official except it didn't have Sony logo and was like 3 times cheaper.
I have received the magnector cable and can confirm that the magnet is very powerfull. One can easily lift up the phone by the cable.
It doesn't however automatically snap on to the two (tiny) charging pins. It takes a little bit of practice to make it work.