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SD Card - System Memory - Internal Memory !

Hi all,
I've got some questions regarding the phone's memory.
When I open the App Manager and I click on "Storage" it shows me that the phone has:
System Memory
Internal Memory
SD Card
Using the app "App 2 SD" my apps are transferred only from either System memory to Internal memory or vice-versa.
This App 2 SD seems not to send my apps to my EXTERNAL SD Card (where I have plenty of memory).
Could someone please explain the different between system and internal memory?
And, once and for all, how can I move/transfer ALL apps downloaded from the market to my EXTERNAL SD Card?
Can I do that manually? how?
Another app from the market? which one?
And how about the Gameloft games? is there any way to move them?
Another question is that after updating for the GB some apps seem to open themselves and they keep running on the background (i.e. Google Maps, LG Smart etc), is there anything that can be done to stop them to start?
Thanks in advance,
J

tourjefferson said:
Hi all,
I've got some questions regarding the phone's memory.
When I open the App Manager and I click on "Storage" it shows me that the phone has:
System Memory
Internal Memory
SD Card
Using the app "App 2 SD" my apps are transferred only from either System memory to Internal memory or vice-versa.
This App 2 SD seems not to send my apps to my EXTERNAL SD Card (where I have plenty of memory).
Could someone please explain the different between system and internal memory?
And, once and for all, how can I move/transfer ALL apps downloaded from the market to my EXTERNAL SD Card?
Can I do that manually? how?
Another app from the market? which one?
And how about the Gameloft games? is there any way to move them?
Another question is that after updating for the GB some apps seem to open themselves and they keep running on the background (i.e. Google Maps, LG Smart etc), is there anything that can be done to stop them to start?
Thanks in advance,
J
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system memory is the memory reserved for the OS and its applications. Internal memory is the rest of the phones memory that is used to store anything else (included apps you move with app2sd)
To move gameloft games to the external sd there is a thread so look it up a bit.
As for apps running themselves it is the way android works. It keeps running apps it "thinks" you might use so when you actually use them the load a lot faster. No worries there as when your phone needs the extra memory (running an HD game for example) it shuts down all apps that are not necessary. If you still want to prevent them from running you can use a task manager to freeze them but you need root.

jimakos29 said:
system memory is the memory reserved for the OS and its applications. Internal memory is the rest of the phones memory that is used to store anything else (included apps you move with app2sd)
To move gameloft games to the external sd there is a thread so look it up a bit.
As for apps running themselves it is the way android works. It keeps running apps it "thinks" you might use so when you actually use them the load a lot faster. No worries there as when your phone needs the extra memory (running an HD game for example) it shuts down all apps that are not necessary. If you still want to prevent them from running you can use a task manager to freeze them but you need root.
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Hi, thanks for your reply.
I have seen the thread regarding Gameloft games, but if I'm not mistaken my phone need to be rooted, which I'm not planning to do any time soon. So that thread doesn't help me to get rid of the games from my internal memory.
Also, the App 2 SD app doesn't send the apps that I have in the internal memory to the external SD. It keeps sending the apps to(or from) internal and system memory.
So, I've got an empty external SD card that I can't transfer anything there even using an app that supposed to do that.
Is there anyway that I can move the apps manually?
Regarding the apps that keep running without need, that didn't happen when I had Froyo and it seems to me that running several apps on the background can cost my battery juice, so this is not so clever.

Apps did run in background on froyo as I rooted specifically to stop some but maybe they were not doing so when you checked as they stop in certain circumstances.
As for the sd thing you are right and it sucks but for some reason lg made it so when we choose install to sd it goes to internal sd card and I have yet to find way around this though for me its not a problem as I use my actual external sd card as storage for camera app and backups instead but the internal one will fit plenty of apps on.
Dave
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I noticed too my 32gb external card is not used by app2sd apps.
Now i swapped the cards in a configfile, and after restart i have 32gb internal sd and 8gb external so it is working.
I got this from the folloing thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1189701

But won't that mean that mess up apps or cause problems, for example if you click to format or unmount external sd wont it try doing that to the internal one?
Dave

Of course, you should not take out the sd or format it after the switch. If you format internal sd, it would in fact format the external sd. Flashing to a new rom wil just use the internal sd again. Just be carefull. You can copy data to your computer as backup before you try this.
I like this sofar, my downloads, photos, films and music is placed directly on the big sd now.
Peter

Pjedr said:
Of course, you should not take out the sd or format it after the switch. If you format internal sd, it would in fact format the external sd. Flashing to a new rom wil just use the internal sd again. Just be carefull. You can copy data to your computer as backup before you try this.
I like this sofar, my downloads, photos, films and music is placed directly on the big sd now.
Peter
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All my photos films and music are on external sd already and I still have four gigabytes of the internal sd card free so will stick with things as they are rather than hack it though is nice to know it is possible
Dave

mistermentality said:
All my photos films and music are on external sd already and I still have four gigabytes of the internal sd card free so will stick with things as they are rather than hack it though is nice to know it is possible
Dave
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Agreed, but I don't have space lol
Anyway, found out that the problem with app running themselves on the background are worst than I first thought.
All kinds of apps seem to start themselves and keep running, that caused my phone to loose a 100% battery over the night!
Is anyone having this problem?

Are you sure its the apps? I had severe battery drain and had to calibrate it then let it die and recharge while off to sort it.
I also rooted and use gemini app manager to stop apps auto running.
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mistermentality said:
Are you sure its the apps? I had severe battery drain and had to calibrate it then let it die and recharge while off to sort it.
I also rooted and use gemini app manager to stop apps auto running.
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I'm 99% sure that the problem are the apps running.
Before, with Froyo, I didn't have this problem (apps starting themselves) and the battery was just fine.
I've realised something recently though, when I was using the app "App 2 SD" I was sending some apps to my System Memory in order to free space on Internal Memory.
What I noticed was that the apps in the System memory were the ones starting up themselves, so I moved them back to internal memory and they seem not to be starting again.
I'm keeping an eye on it because it's weird, but it's been almost one full day and my battery is doing okay, or that is what least seems to appear on my screen.

Pjedr said:
I noticed too my 32gb external card is not used by app2sd apps.
Now i swapped the cards in a configfile, and after restart i have 32gb internal sd and 8gb external so it is working.
I got this from the folloing thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1189701
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hi,
Which config file is this? Is this the config file for apps2sd or the vold.stab file? (I could no longer the thread in your link)
Thanks

I think apps auto running in background is the major bug in GB, and i also have this problem so you are not alone or the only one having this problem

[Q] moving applications to SD card

I just got my tab 7 plus. All is fine except for the ability to move applications to SD card. App2sd for example does not recognize the SD! Any solution?

nedal364 said:
I just got my tab 7 plus. All is fine except for the ability to move applications to SD card. App2sd for example does not recognize the SD! Any solution?
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i'm just curious. why would you want to move app to sd? there's already 16/32gb available on the internal storage.

Firstly curious. Secondly to reserve ram for system.

nedal364 said:
Firstly curious. Secondly to reserve ram for system.
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moving apps to sd doesn't affect RAM usage.

Thanks. But is their a method to move applications to SD?

nedal364 said:
Thanks. But is their a method to move applications to SD?
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I don't think there has ever been a safe way to move apps to external SD.
On HC devices, /data and the internal /sdcard are actually just directories on the same partition - so moving from one to another does nothing.

So whats the point
Id like to know how to move apps to sd as well. If not for extra storage room, and ability to move apps to the sd, whats the point of having a micro sd port in the first place? I like moving apps to free up space on the internal drive, it fills up way too quickly.

For media storage, of course. the internal storage is insufficient for people, including me, who love to save tons of media files in their tablet.

I tried to do the same thing today on the P6210 and had little luck. I think it's habit for me to move apps to the sdcard because of my experience with phones, like my Pre, and then my Epic, which bogged down if I didn't move apps to the card.
My Epic has 485MB of internal storage. That's a lot less than 16GB! K.... I won't worry about moving apps as long as the media and files are on the SD card.

[Q] install apps to external sd card?

We all know that phones have 3 hard drives. The internal memory, the internal sd, and the external sd.
For those of you that don't, the g2x has an advertised 8gb of internal memory. They did not however, mentioned that it is split up into 2 parts. 1.5 gigs for internal memory, for apps, programs, etc aka phones memory. Then the remaining is called the internal sd card, for all your pictures, movies, files etc. Then you hav the external sd, which is the microsd card you can pick up from future shop, best buy etc also used for files.
So my question is: is it possible to install and app onto your external sd card? IV heard of an app called app2ext but a market search failed to show and results
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Checkout link2sd
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Use of SD CARD

When I had a P1000, I used a lot the feature of sending applications and games and its data files to my SD CARD with a single purpose: leave the internal 16Gb memory as free as possible for better perfomance.
Now I have a rooted P6200 and I only can use my SD CARD for storing music and videos because I have no option of MOVE TO SD CARD anymore.
I also tried some applications that MOVE TO SD CARD, but none of them work.
I called the SAMSUNG SUPPORT and they told me I should be able to move to SD, but I read somewhere that it's something about the way that Android 3 and 4 manage partitions... what makes me believe I will not be able.
So, I am confused.
Can I move applications to SD CARD or not?
Can I make a application store data on SD CARD? Example: MailDroid or a game that consumes a lot of the memory - I would prefer to store data on the SD card.
Does anybody have a hint for that?
Thank you!

mario.renor said:
When I had a P1000, I used a lot the feature of sending applications and games and its data files to my SD CARD with a single purpose: leave the internal 16Gb memory as free as possible for better perfomance.
Now I have a rooted P6200 and I only can use my SD CARD for storing music and videos because I have no option of MOVE TO SD CARD anymore.
I also tried some applications that MOVE TO SD CARD, but none of them work.
I called the SAMSUNG SUPPORT and they told me I should be able to move to SD, but I read somewhere that it's something about the way that Android 3 and 4 manage partitions... what makes me believe I will not be able.
So, I am confused.
Can I move applications to SD CARD or not?
Can I make a application store data on SD CARD? Example: MailDroid or a game that consumes a lot of the memory - I would prefer to store data on the SD card.
Does anybody have a hint for that?
Thank you!
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There are some apps in the Google Play Market like app 2 sd or move to sd (something like that), you can try one of those.
Personally I have no experience on these apps since I still have plenty of space, but you can read a little the features and see if that works for you

Unfortunately, APP2SD does not work to me
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There are some apps in the Google Play Market like app 2 sd or move to sd (something like that), you can try one of those.
Personally I have no experience on these apps since I still have plenty of space, but you can read a little the features and see if that works for you
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Thank you for your suggestion, but when APP2SD starts, I receive this message:
Your device has no real primary external storage or primary storage is emulated
APP2SD will not support move 2 card.
I dont understand this message. I have the 16Gb internal memory plus a 32Gb SD card as s imple a s it can b e, but it is not moving to S D.
P lease someone help me how to solve it.
By the way, the 32Gb SD is fully recognized by the P6200. I can see all my files regularly.

Link2sd may work, but I don't think there would be any performance gain from moving the apps over.
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Can I get super user access without rooting? Link2SD tells me I have to allow it to move the app.
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Kumabjorn said:
Can I get super user access without rooting?
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Super User access is root access. so, no you can't.
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From my point of view, rooting is something relatively easy, both to get and to lose: you just flash a zip from the default recovery. It does not even takes your flash count up. Basically, it's a single file that needs to be placed in "/system/bin/". If you need to send it to support, mount "system" as R/W and delete "su".
I could be wrong though, but you should really look into it. I think it is worth it.
By the way, I think you would have to partition your SD Card to use it with Link2SD...
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[Q] Move app and app data to SD?

So I have 16GB internal and a 64GB SD card. I noticed that when I go to apps and move an app to SD it doesn't move the apps data to SD. For example, Half-life is like 70ish MB but downloads 2GB of data. So when moved to SD it only moved the app 70MB to SD but 2GB of app data is still on internal storage. Is there any way to move the app data to SD as well?
I should point out I'm non-root android 5. I'd prefer not to root but if that's the only way I can I guess. I don't mind if it takes a paid app within reason but would prefer a free app if it takes an app. Thanks

I don't know about Lollipop - haven't updated yet - and I don't know about HL2 - I don't have it - but on KitKat, for the GTA games at least, it doesn't say it's moving the data (in the app listing the amount of data on internal storage doesn't change) but when I look at the available internal storage, it does actually move most of the data. Sure that's not happening?

Slashee the Cow said:
I don't know about Lollipop - haven't updated yet - and I don't know about HL2 - I don't have it - but on KitKat, for the GTA games at least, it doesn't say it's moving the data (in the app listing the amount of data on internal storage doesn't change) but when I look at the available internal storage, it does actually move most of the data. Sure that's not happening?
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Rooted my Tablet. Found there are apps like Link2SD which can do this. However Link2SD wouldnt work for me. Followed directions and partioned/formatted card and started app, select format of 2nd partion (ext4) and reboot. After reboot app crashes and reopening prompts again. Couldnt resolve this. Any recommendations would be great. Thanks

Eat it iPhone said:
Rooted my Tablet. Found there are apps like Link2SD which can do this. However Link2SD wouldnt work for me. Followed directions and partioned/formatted card and started app, select format of 2nd partion (ext4) and reboot. After reboot app crashes and reopening prompts again. Couldnt resolve this. Any recommendations would be great. Thanks
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Use foldermount.

As stated above, foldermount works wonders, especially for a gaming tablet.
It will also fix the SD card write limits in KK and L (L has eased up, but apps need to be updated to use the new APIs, so many still can't use the SD card).
I have saved some 6 gigs with this from my internal. Now if I could get a bigger SD card. Haha.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devasque.fmount
(Well worth buying pro).

Thanks everyone. Using folder mount and so far so good.
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