Hi everyone. This is my first post but I've been using this website as a resource for years. I'm struggling to find something and I hope you can point me in the right direction.
I just bought a Galaxy S5 right after it came out. Within a matter of days I managed to shatter the screen. I was working on my car and must have left the phone on the trunk/spoiler. I ended up driving away. I came home later figuring I just left it in the house... but I found it in the street with a broken screen. The phone amazingly works just fine, except the screen is completely unusable. I'm figuring out insurance right now...
In the mean time I would like to be able to check my phone and at least reply to anyone that has text messaged or called me and let them know that I will be waiting on a new device to come in. The phone is rooted, but USB debugging was not enabled when this accident occurred.
I read a couple of threads on connecting and controlling your phone over usb. The main requirement I can't get past is that most of them mention that USB debugging must be enabled for this to work. So I'm at a loss there. Another route I have been looking into is installing a VNC client from the google play store. Then connecting to that via my laptop. The issue with this route is that I cannot turn the remote server on.
I have seen a few threads but I have not been able to find one that allowed me to remotely control my phone without USB debugging enabled. That is my biggest problem.
If there is any possible way control it without the screen, please point me in that direction.
Thanks
Thanks.
Hey there. Sorry about your screen. Normally we'd point you to a thread to help but this is quick.
Most remote control solutions need some kind of verification or configuration, so my best suggestion would be to get a MHL adapter to get HDMI output from your phone. Galaxy S3 and newer require the newer 11-pin MHL so ensure compatibility if you're ordering online.
The HDMI will show what the screen would and as long as your touchscreen is still working you can operate your phone that way.
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bhiga said:
Hey there. Sorry about your screen. Normally we'd point you to a thread to help but this is quick.
Most remote control solutions need some kind of verification or configuration, so my best suggestion would be to get a MHL adapter to get HDMI output from your phone. Galaxy S3 and newer require the newer 11-pin MHL so ensure compatibility if you're ordering online.
The HDMI will show what the screen would and as long as your touchscreen is still working you can operate your phone that way.
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dang. That was my last option. The touch screen does not work at all. So I can't control it. I don't know what to do..
mahomeless said:
dang. That was my last option. The touch screen does not work at all. So I can't control it. I don't know what to do..
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That's unfortunate...
If you have a spare phone, I would put your SIM in there - you won't get any of the already-received messages/etc, but at least you can get and respond to new stuff.
I recommend replying to the [SUPPORT THREAD] The Galaxy ~S5~ All in one support thread!**NOOB FRIENDLY** or create a new thread in the Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting section.
I'm sure there's someone smarter than me in there that will hopefully have an idea. Maybe there's an S5 dock that will let you use a USB keyboard/mouse or something? (Bluetooth would require pairing, which requires touchscreen interaction)
Good luck!!
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UPDATE: I happen to have some accessories on-hand, so I just connected a USB keyboard to the (Samsung) USB OTG cable, and connected that to my S3 and it responds to input - at least if Samsung Keyboard is your default input method (it prompted me, as I usually use Flex T9). Can't swipe to unlock with the keyboard, but if you can at least get your phone unlocked it might get you somewhere.
Since I assume you can't see your screen in a usable fashion, you'll still need to combine the OTG keyboard/mouse with HDMI output to get both input and a viewable interface. It may be different on your S5, but at least on my S3, this requires a MHL adapter that has a micro USB port that accepts the OTG adapter and a powered USB OTG cable so you can plug the power into the USB OTG, and plug the USB OTG into the MHL adapter, and plug the MHL adapter into the phone.
I tried the Samsung OTG cable (P/N ET-R205UBEGSTA / UPC 635753495546) - it is not a powered USB OTG cable - with the Samsung MHL 2 adapter (P/N ET-H10FAUWESTA / UPC 887276848013) - and it did not work.
Just the USB OTG alone worked, but in your case that wouldn't give you an interface to see.
So definitely look into either a dock with USB and HDMI output or a powered OTG cable combined with MHL adapter with USB input.
Make sure the MHL adapter has a 5-pin USB, otherwise the OTG will definitely not work (the Samsung one I used does, but I can't verify since I don't have a powered OTG cable on-hand).
According to this thread, Samsung Smart Dock Multimedia Hub, the Samsung Galaxy Smart Dock, P/N EDD-S20JWEGSTA may do the trick! At least people reported it worked for the S4, so I would hope it works for the S5 as well.
I should note here that the additional testing I did above is not normal for XDA Assist... XDA Assist is not a troubleshooting forum. But I just happened to have the stuff handy so it was quick test.
bhiga said:
That's unfortunate...
If you have a spare phone, I would put your SIM in there - you won't get any of the already-received messages/etc, but at least you can get and respond to new stuff.
I recommend replying to the [SUPPORT THREAD] The Galaxy ~S5~ All in one support thread!**NOOB FRIENDLY** or create a new thread in the Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting section.
I'm sure there's someone smarter than me in there that will hopefully have an idea. Maybe there's an S5 dock that will let you use a USB keyboard/mouse or something? (Bluetooth would require pairing, which requires touchscreen interaction)
Good luck!!
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UPDATE: I happen to have some accessories on-hand, so I just connected a USB keyboard to the (Samsung) USB OTG cable, and connected that to my S3 and it responds to input - at least if Samsung Keyboard is your default input method (it prompted me, as I usually use Flex T9). Can't swipe to unlock with the keyboard, but if you can at least get your phone unlocked it might get you somewhere.
Since I assume you can't see your screen in a usable fashion, you'll still need to combine the OTG keyboard/mouse with HDMI output to get both input and a viewable interface. It may be different on your S5, but at least on my S3, this requires a MHL adapter that has a micro USB port that accepts the OTG adapter and a powered USB OTG cable so you can plug the power into the USB OTG, and plug the USB OTG into the MHL adapter, and plug the MHL adapter into the phone.
I tried the Samsung OTG cable (P/N ET-R205UBEGSTA / UPC 635753495546) - it is not a powered USB OTG cable - with the Samsung MHL 2 adapter (P/N ET-H10FAUWESTA / UPC 887276848013) - and it did not work.
Just the USB OTG alone worked, but in your case that wouldn't give you an interface to see.
So definitely look into either a dock with USB and HDMI output or a powered OTG cable combined with MHL adapter with USB input.
Make sure the MHL adapter has a 5-pin USB, otherwise the OTG will definitely not work (the Samsung one I used does, but I can't verify since I don't have a powered OTG cable on-hand).
According to this thread, Samsung Smart Dock Multimedia Hub, the Samsung Galaxy Smart Dock, P/N EDD-S20JWEGSTA may do the trick! At least people reported it worked for the S4, so I would hope it works for the S5 as well.
I should note here that the additional testing I did above is not normal for XDA Assist... XDA Assist is not a troubleshooting forum. But I just happened to have the stuff handy so it was quick test.
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Ok sweet thank you. I will take a quick trip to best buy and see if they have any docks on hand. I do have another phone that I could use. It's not mine but I'm sure I can borrow it for now. I can't get the sim out the s5 though. It feels like it's glued in place. I also have a macbook with bluetooth. So if I could some how enable and access the phone without configuring it... I would be able to pair through bluetooth.
If your local Best Buy has a Samsung Experience (most non Mobile BBYs have them) hunt down the Samsung rep and see if they have additional advice and ideas.
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Also, for SIM removal I have found it convenient to get a piece of removable tape (Scotch Magic - the not-so-clear one) to stick on the SIM, then pull the tape gently sideways. Otherwise when you try to push it with your finger you usually just bind it in the depression it sits in.
Good luck, and if you have further questions or need additional assistance, please follow up on the appropriate links above.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-MHL-OTG...t-for-Galaxy-S3-S4-S5-i9600-BK-/121338519505?
this adapter claims to be able to do hdmi output as well as OTG at the same time.... anyone have experienced with such adapters? do they really work?
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-MHL-OTG...t-for-Galaxy-S3-S4-S5-i9600-BK-/121338519505?
this adapter claims to be able to do hdmi output as well as OTG at the same time.... anyone have experienced with such adapters? do they really work?
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Funny, I actually have. I work in a computer repair/data recovery shop and we have a phone in with a broken screen/lcd. Long story short is that the device did not work with the phone we got it for, nor my phone (Galaxy S5), and I know my MHL works on my phone but we needed KB/Mouse support as well.
It may have been a bunk device and we haven't requested a replacement yet, so If you try it out let me know if yours works, and when we get our replacement i'll let you know.
actually the seller replied to me and says that this cannot do hdmi and otg at the same time but apparently this dock does : http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=ite...obalID=EBAY-US&ssPageName=ADME:X:ACME:US:1123
but this dock is not compatible with galaxy s5 ... i wonder why
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actually the seller replied to me and says that this cannot do hdmi and otg at the same time but apparently this dock does : http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=ite...obalID=EBAY-US&ssPageName=ADME:X:ACME:US:1123
but this dock is not compatible with galaxy s5 ... i wonder why
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Actually I didn't see where is said it wasn't compatible with the S5, it only list a few year old phones.
Oditius said:
Actually I didn't see where is said it wasn't compatible with the S5, it only list a few year old phones.
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I asked the seller if it was compatible with the S5 and he said no
byransays said:
Funny, I actually have. I work in a computer repair/data recovery shop and we have a phone in with a broken screen/lcd. Long story short is that the device did not work with the phone we got it for, nor my phone (Galaxy S5), and I know my MHL works on my phone but we needed KB/Mouse support as well.
It may have been a bunk device and we haven't requested a replacement yet, so If you try it out let me know if yours works, and when we get our replacement i'll let you know.
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did you get a replacement? does it work with hdmi and usb host at the same time?
i received and used the same one adapter
yes it can do both at the same time
although i am not satisfied with the image quality of the hdmi output
...which one
Purplys said:
i received and used the same one adapter
yes it can do both at the same time
although i am not satisfied with the image quality of the hdmi output
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Which one are you referring to?
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Which one are you referring to?
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the one OP says:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-MHL-OTG...t-for-Galaxy-S3-S4-S5-i9600-BK-/121338519505?
I can't believe there is no good adapter or dock that can do usb host and hdmi at the same time properly...
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I can't believe there is no good adapter or dock that can do usb host and hdmi at the same time properly...
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Unfortunately I don't think so, I used this:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Lindy-73391-...6?pt=DE_Computer_Sonstige&hash=item462bc81bb0
with a s4, and it worked prperly, but when connected to s5 it doesn't even turns on. I think it is because s5 doesn't have a docking mode, in fact if you go in Settings-->accessories, there is only an option for sound on hdmi, while in s4 there were more (and one was for the docking mode)
I couldn't find anything that worked reliably and consistently. So I use the MHL for HDMI output and use a Bluetooth Keyboard and mouse...
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I couldn't find anything that worked reliably and consistently. So I use the MHL for HDMI output and use a Bluetooth Keyboard and mouse...
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This is a good solution, but I'm wondering why, since 11 pin connectors usually can handle hdmi and usb otg on the same time, why old dock stations for 11 pin device don't work?
using micro 3.0 for MHL and OTG
i have a SM-G900P and if i make a OTG and MLH cable through usb 3.0 do you think i could charge and use HDMI and 2 usb for keyboard and mouse. My goal is to make my phone like a mini computer on the go for my roms and movies
Possibly use the USB 3.0 Micro-b connection?
All my googling on this matter with the S5 seems to lead to one inevitable conclusion, the S5 won't allow for simultaneous MHL and OTG use, because the S5 uses the 5pin connector and not the 11pin connector (as the S4 seemed to). What I don't understand is, isn't the S5 using USB 3.0 instead of the USB 2.0 as on the S4? How could the S5 allow for faster data transfer rates and yet not be able to transfer more types of data at once?
Isn't there a way to utilize the entire USB 3.0 micro-b format (which apparently has 10 pins, 5 for backwards compatibility with USB 2.0 (except 5pin, and not 11pin), and 5 extra for USB 3.0 speeds) to use MHL and OTG and charging simultaneously?
feeya7 said:
All my googling on this matter with the S5 seems to lead to one inevitable conclusion, the S5 won't allow for simultaneous MHL and OTG use, because the S5 uses the 5pin connector and not the 11pin connector (as the S4 seemed to). What I don't understand is, isn't the S5 using USB 3.0 instead of the USB 2.0 as on the S4? How could the S5 allow for faster data transfer rates and yet not be able to transfer more types of data at once?
Isn't there a way to utilize the entire USB 3.0 micro-b format (which apparently has 10 pins, 5 for backwards compatibility with USB 2.0 (except 5pin, and not 11pin), and 5 extra for USB 3.0 speeds) to use MHL and OTG and charging simultaneously?
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I'm having an issue with MHL adapter on my S5, When I connect my MHL adapter to my S5, the audio on my TV seems delayed, but when I tried it on my S3, the audio is perfectly fine. Is this something to do with S5 having 5 pin only wherein S3 having 11pin?
I saw a 5 pin to 11 pin converter on Amazon, will this solve this issue? And possibly the issue of not being able to use MHL/HDMI and USB at the same time?
buy chrome cast you can screen mirror or use almost any app directly to the tv when it comes to videos and such theres a little allshare
button at the top of like the video player, you tube etc.
also a smart tv does the same thing only better (all the above scenarios will only work with a connected network)
what is wrong with the image quality?
Chromecast works for me at home or anywhere it has standard wifi, but is too painful in most hotels that use a web user login. Without net access it was almost useless last time I tried. I could pair with it, but it wouldn't stream local files from my device. Most places I've stayed in the last few years have an active HDMI port on their tv, so the MHL HDMI and OTG with USB wireless mouse on an S3 worked for me, even though I couldn't charge at the same time. Haven't been able to make that work so far with anything I've tried on the S5.
Still no luck with S5 docking (MHL+OTG)
Hello!
I've been using this adapter for a while with a Samsung Galaxy S4:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/MHL-...or-Samsung-Galaxy-S3-S4-Note/32461052976.html
Charging, HDMI connection and USB keyboard + mouse works very nice.
Unfortunately no luck with S5. Not even charging works. I read S5 doesn't use 11-pin USB (because of the USB 3.0 plug, etc...). If that's true, then not even installing a custom ROM would make the docking work.
According to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57336973&postcount=4, "the G800F is capable of USB OTG. It simply is not enabled in the stock firmware." I know this is about a S5 Mini, but wouldn't it be the same for the S5?
Hello All,
I'm a new owner of a Galaxy S6 Edge, coming from a S4.
I had a Samsung multimedia dock for my S4, that had 3 USB ports, a HDMI Out port and a 3.5mm audio Out port. I purchased a wireless keyboard / track pad and plugged it into one of the USB ports on the dock to make typing texts & navigating the phone easier while at my desk.
Unfortunately, the male micro-USB plug on the Samsung multimedia dock does not fit the micro-USB port on my S6, rendering my wireless USB keyboard useless.
I've looked all over the internet and can't seem to find a similar docking station for the S6. Does anyone know of a docking station that has USB ports that will work with my USB wireless dongle & keyboard?
Much appreciated!
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Thanks for your report. It seems strange to me that the S6 micro USB port is different, should be the same old 11 pin that the Samsung used. Stupid question, but did you try inserting it the other way around, with the phone back facing you?
For your exact problem, with the keyboard, I assume the old USB On The Go adapter will work on S6, same as it does on S4, S3, Note2, etc. It's this one: http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/ET-R205UBEGSTA .
There's also a HDMI adapter, http://www.samsung.com/de/consumer/mobile-devices/accessories/connectivity/EE-HN910FWEGWW. Maybe those 2 can be combined, instead of using the dock.
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Hi,
Thanks for your report. It seems strange to me that the S6 micro USB port is different, should be the same old 11 pin that the Samsung used. Stupid question, but did you try inserting it the other way around, with the phone back facing you?
For your exact problem, with the keyboard, I assume the old USB On The Go adapter will work on S6, same as it does on S4, S3, Note2, etc. It's this one: .
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Thanks for the reply!
Way ahead of ya on making sure the micro-USB plug on the docking station is facing the right direction. I tried docking it backwards and the plug n' port absolutely do not fit that way. It's facing the right direction, just that the port on the S6 is not able to accept the plug on the docking station....despite both being Micro-USB. I did notice, however, that the plug on the docking station had two small grooves indented in it, that looked different than any other standard micro-USB cable plug. It could be that those indentions made the device proprietary to the Samsung range of phones that released during the S3 / S4 years (including the Note 2 & 3). If you look at the compatibility of that docking station on Samsung's website, you'll notice that only the S3, S4, Note 2 & Note 3 come up.
I suppose the USB dongle you linked could work, but reading the device laying down flat, while trying to type on the keyboard might be problematic. You'd think that someone would make a universal micro-USB docking station with USB ports...but I haven't been able to find it.
I'm pretty sure the S6 no longer supports MHL which probably explains why the dock doesn't work either.
You can still go USB OTG, which should let you use your keyboard and trackpad mouse devices.
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I'm pretty sure the S6 no longer supports MHL which probably explains why the dock doesn't work either.
You can still go USB OTG, which should let you use your keyboard and trackpad mouse devices.
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Interesting.....so are you saying that the micro-USB male plug on the Samsung docking station also had MHL connectivity integrated in it, which is why it's form factor is slightly different than a standard micro-USB plug?
The only times I've ever seen a MHL port on mobile devices was as a separate, similar looking, but different port than the micro-USB port.
I supposed all the wireless mirroring tech out now makes including hardware mirroring functionality not needed.
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Interesting.....so are you saying that the micro-USB male plug on the Samsung docking station also had MHL connectivity integrated in it, which is why it's form factor is slightly different than a standard micro-USB plug?
The only times I've ever seen a MHL port on mobile devices was as a separate, similar looking, but different port than the micro-USB port.
I supposed all the wireless mirroring tech out now makes including hardware mirroring functionality not needed.
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That's correct, it has to since it offers an HDMI out on the dock.
http://www.thegadgetqueen.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/5-pin-vs-11-pin.jpg
You're also probably right in your assumption that MHL isn't really needed anymore due to the widespread wireless screen mirroring technologies.
I want to take advantage of the S5 MHL capability. Perhaps eventually using the phone as my everyday computer.
So I would need to have usb keyboard and mouse while connected to a monitor.
I have ordered the device pictured below, it reportedly supports the S5 in some kind of half-assed way, meaning that you may have to fiddle with inserting cables in a certain order to get it to work.
This is what I read anyway.
I want to know if any of you have used the Galaxy S5 in such a way. Will my device work? Know of a better solution?
I had some dreams of making my own Diy S5 dock, but I would have to know what kind of electronic/hardware configuration works (if any), as the S5 is different in that it does not support dock mode (Why samsung... why?).
Well I can report that it works. HDMI out works with sound, and it charges while doing so, but the USB port and the card reader does not work apparently.
Obviously the form of the device is a poor match for the Galaxy S5. I had to remove the plastic housing to make it fit, because of the watertight hatch in front of the USB port. Later I will use a USB extender cable.
Hopefully there is a possibility to make OTG (or host mode, or whatever it's called) work.
It appears this device supports the S5
http://andromiumos.freeforums.net/thread/4/officially-supported-android-phones?page=1&scrollTo=4
http://www.andromiumos.com/
There is two question marks here.
1) Does S5 support simultaneously operation with OTG active and HDMI output active.
2) Does this gadget also support such a functionality?
I don't know. I've read people claiming that you can use both hdmi & otg at the same time including post's on xda. But i've also read people saying you can't. I certainly havn't seen any video demonstrations.
By the way i currently have my S5 displayed on my monitor using mhl->hdmi adapter and have my pc mouse and keyboard working on the S5 wirelessly with Samsung SideSync. I opened the xda app with the pc mouse and have typed this reply with the pc keyboard. I've done some navigation on the phone, opened and used a range of apps. All is well till i opened firefox and the mouse disappeared from the monitor. It's still displayed and functional on the S5 screen though. Closed firefox and the mouse is displayed on the monitor again.
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All is well till i opened Firefox and the mouse disappeared from the monitor.
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Therefore your new question this is : Does Firefox (Android) this supports four input devices connected at the same time?
Android Keyboard = 1
External keyboard = 2
Android touch pad = 3
external mouse = 4
And all that active by also active HDMI
I would be surprised if Android OS has such potentials.
I was using Andromium OS app which gives you option to turn off android keyboard and dim S5 screen. Both those functions worked. Andromium OS has 3 menus from start menu. Andromium Apps(browser, file manager), Supported Apps (gmail, youtube), Unsupported apps (all other apps installed on device). PC mouse and keyboard worked fine with Andromium Apps & Supported App. PC mouse and keyboard also worked fine with most unsupported apps i tested except firefox browser and adblock browser. If i get my hands on a bluetooth mouse/keyboard i'll test again to see if it works with firefox browser and adblock browser from monitor.
Personally I am going to use my HP iPAQ FA287 Bluetooth keyboard at S5 ( or at least I will try).
Also ordered one OTG cable (CY U2-166) that hopefully this will offer power to the phone and External HDD, due micro USB (female input for charger cable) and this will become also my mouse input too.
Therefore I am interested for your inquiry / investigation, possibly as much you do, because I do also favor Firefox.
I favour android firefox browser and adblock browser because they are consistent in providing desktop view. I'll provide an update here when i get my hands on a bluetooth mouse & keyboard.
Kiriakos-GR said:
Personally I am going to use my HP iPAQ FA287 Bluetooth keyboard at S5 ( or at least I will try).
Also ordered one OTG cable (CY U2-166) that hopefully this will offer power to the phone and External HDD, due micro USB (female input for charger cable) and this will become also my mouse input too.
Therefore I am interested for your inquiry / investigation, possibly as much you do, because I do also favor Firefox.
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Hi, did this cable charge your S5 while using OTG/USB Host?
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mbdroidsony said:
Hi, did this cable charge your S5 while using OTG/USB Host?
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My cable did not arrive yet from China.
But even so, in the past days I did some research about finding more details by discovering the factory that makes those cables.
According to real Specifications: (after me correcting errors due bad translation)
High quality Original USB 2.0 Micro-B HOST OTG CABLE
Interface:
Micro USB male: = Output To be connected with OTG complying device ( Your phone or tablet).
Micro USB female: = DC input To charge = Supply of Power due micro USB female connector ( This is only to supply DC voltage to USB A plug this powering hard drives etc etc).
USB female: To connect with USB A device.
Therefore or in conclusion, this cable is not in position to supply power for the phone and the external hard drive.
Later on, that I did the electrical math, I can now explain and the why ? (this cable cannot do both).
By assuming that mobile phone or tablet this requiring 450mA at charging (due PC USB plug), and removable hard-drives (some of them requiring another stable supply of 500mA) the sum this is almost 1A of power.
Manufacturing of OTG cables this requiring from the manufacturer, him to make a product according to OTG cable international standards (compatibility - safety - functionality).
Only if Samsung makes a OTG cable specifically for S5, this will be able for active Host and charging.
All cables available at the moment, them have generic compatibility and non of them will work as we expect or wish.
Kiriakos-GR said:
My cable did not arrive yet from China.
But even so, in the past days I did some research about finding more details by discovering the factory that makes those cables.
According to real Specifications: (after me correcting errors due bad translation)
High quality Original USB 2.0 Micro-B HOST OTG CABLE
Interface:
Micro USB male: = Output To be connected with OTG complying device ( Your phone or tablet).
Micro USB female: = DC input To charge = Supply of Power due micro USB female connector ( This is only to supply DC voltage to USB A plug this powering hard drives etc etc).
USB female: To connect with USB A device.
Therefore or in conclusion, this cable is not in position to supply power for the phone and the external hard drive.
Later on, that I did the electrical math, I can now explain and the why ? (this cable cannot do both).
By assuming that mobile phone or tablet this requiring 450mA at charging (due PC USB plug), and removable hard-drives (some of them requiring another stable supply of 500mA) the sum this is almost 1A of power.
Manufacturing of OTG cables this requiring from the manufacturer, him to make a product according to OTG cable international standards (compatibility - safety - functionality).
Only if Samsung makes a OTG cable specifically for S5, this will be able for active Host and charging.
All cables available at the moment, them have generic compatibility and non of them will work as we expect or wish.
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Samsung hasn't made it easy for us S5 users. Might have to resort to wireless charging at this rate.
Samsung Galaxy S5 Qi Wireless Charging Kit EP-WG900IBEGWW
Just going to throw this out there...
Why not use a bluetooth mouse/keyboard (or even one of those combined ones) with the phone mirroring it's screen to a ChromeCast plugged into your monitor? There's minimal (and I mean you're looking at 10ms) lag - or that's my experience, but I have a really really really fast router etc - and if you're planning on using it essentially as a PC, this setup will work wonders. Plus you can plug the phone in. I've considered using my old S3 in this way.
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Just going to throw this out there...
Why not use a bluetooth mouse/keyboard (or even one of those combined ones) with the phone mirroring it's screen to a ChromeCast plugged into your monitor? There's minimal (and I mean you're looking at 10ms) lag - or that's my experience, but I have a really really really fast router etc - and if you're planning on using it essentially as a PC, this setup will work wonders. Plus you can plug the phone in. I've considered using my old S3 in this way.
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Charging the S5 through 2A cable would be faster than wireless charging. MHL to HDMI adapter charges the phone as well as mirror your phones screen. I've never used bluetooth mouse and keyboard. Would the S5 support pairing and using both mouse and keyboard at the same time?
By the way there are products for the S3,S4 that support mhl, otg & charging at the same time like the UNITEK Y-2165.
http://www.amazon.com/UNITEK-Multim...5&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B00OFKY4XA#Ask
mbdroidsony said:
By the way there are products for the S3,S4 that support mhl, otg & charging at the same time like the UNITEK Y-2165.
http://www.amazon.com/UNITEK-Multim...5&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B00OFKY4XA#Ask
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Speaking of compatibility, S5 this is a brother model to Note III.
I do such an assumption due the identical charging system specifications.
From the other hand with all those variants of G900, there is no chance to offer an 100% reliable prediction if you do not test any such OTG product with your own phone.
The link above this is about a Currently unavailable product.
Even so it is interesting that this worked for someone with Note III.
mbdroidsony said:
Charging the S5 through 2A cable would be faster than wireless charging. MHL to HDMI adapter charges the phone as well as mirror your phones screen. I've never used bluetooth mouse and keyboard. Would the S5 support pairing and using both mouse and keyboard at the same time?
By the way there are products for the S3,S4 that support mhl, otg & charging at the same time like the UNITEK Y-2165.
http://www.amazon.com/UNITEK-Multim...5&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B00OFKY4XA#Ask
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The S5 (or certainly my model, G900T) DOES support everything I mentioned however my bluetooth mouse/keyboard is a 2 in 1 setup with the mouse being a trackpad below the keyboard, similar to a laptop. It mirrors directly to my monitor and I've forced Landscape orientation throughout the OS so it works wonderfully. I've not tried yet with the S3, but I'd assume it'd work the same way. Just need to force the screen to stay always on, pop the screen brightness right down and hide it away in a cupboard and boom, full android computer.
On the original question, a cable must exist but unfortuantely I don't know where.
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Just need to force the screen to stay always on, pop the screen brightness right down and hide it away in a cupboard and boom, full android computer.
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Definable this is a bad idea the screen to stay always on.
Does phone screen brightness this have any effect at HDMI output (brightness) ?
Nope, but turning it off does. I don't mind it burning out as it's an old device I don't use.
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Nope, but turning it off does. I don't mind it burning out as it's an old device I don't use.
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I bet 20 Euros that every one reading this topic he/her, will wonder of why you/he, does not simply turn the brightness down.
Either way, Android it is crippled operating system with out offering much of productivity as it does one regular Windows PC.
Neither a smartphone this is capable for long term gaming, the poor thing does not even have active cooling, and CPU will start slowdown so to protect it self from overheat.
My 0,2 cents, you are in a wrong path.
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Speaking of compatibility, S5 this is a brother model to Note III.
I do such an assumption due the identical charging system specifications.
From the other hand with all those variants of G900, there is no chance to offer an 100% reliable prediction if you do not test any such OTG product with your own phone.
The link above this is about a Currently unavailable product.
Even so it is interesting that this worked for someone with Note III.
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The link i gave has a few reviews that can give you an idea of what phones are compatible and which ones arn't. Youtube has video demos of the UNITEK Y-2165, unfortunately none for the S5. It appears the desktop dock feature is on the Note III where as samsung removed the dock feature from the S5.
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yetep said:
The S5 (or certainly my model, G900T) DOES support everything I mentioned however my bluetooth mouse/keyboard is a 2 in 1 setup with the mouse being a trackpad below the keyboard, similar to a laptop. It mirrors directly to my monitor and I've forced Landscape orientation throughout the OS so it works wonderfully. I've not tried yet with the S3, but I'd assume it'd work the same way. Just need to force the screen to stay always on, pop the screen brightness right down and hide it away in a cupboard and boom, full android computer.
On the original question, a cable must exist but unfortuantely I don't know where.
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oh ok, so only 1 device paired.
There's a great app for having screen brightness right down called Screen Standby.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nkahoang.screenstandby&hl=en
The adronium os app forces landscape.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andromium.os&hl=en
I tell you what, i really like the concept of carring you desktop in your pocket. Can you imagine that, doing your desktop stuff, unplug the phone and head out with everything you did at home on the desktop in your pocket. I know microsoft have a desktop adapter for their Lumia 950 XL phones which changes the layout to desktop mode on the monitor/tv to give you that PC-like experience.
Microsoft Display Dock
https://www.microsoft.com/en/mobile/accessory/hd-500/
It's a real shame samsung removed dock support from the S5.
I am looking for an adapter similar to this one that can provide sufficient power to charge my N8000 whilst it is connected to a fingerprint scanner via powered USB hub (that powers the scanner).
I am trying to make one myself following this thread, however it is for the Galaxy Tab 7.7 and I would prefer a more elegant solution if possible. I also doubt it is going to work with my electronics skills, as I can't find a breakout board like the one used in the thread!
Any ideas/help is appreciated!
Hey all...so....long time android user.....my very first phone was the Motorola Atrix 4G - one of the first to offer fingerprint logins to the phone AND also had a mini-hdmi out port which hooked into a special "dock" motorola manufactured to create a desktop experience....although, I think at the time it wasn't just a dock, it was like a whole mini-laptop thing with a keyboard and stuff....
ANYWAY, the point I'm making is, I think someone found a way to activate the desktop mode and all you had to do was use the hdmi-out port (the phone came with a compatible hdmi cable) and connect it to a monitor or tv and you could use a BT connected mouse and keyboard and voila! You now have the "desktop" experience without having to buy their phone-into-a-laptop-adapter.
So....is it possible to activate this experience over a usb-to-hdmi adapter? The phones already came supplied with an OTG adapter....
Anyway....would love to know if anyone knows of anything like this or has the knowledge and skill to make this happen?
Following
I believe you can get a usb c to HDMI without the need for the otg connector...don't quote me though because I lost the thread I read it in...
Might want to try this.
Dex Station for Samsung Galaxy S8 S8 Plus Note8,Type C to HDMI + USB 3.0 Female,Type-C Charger Adapter for Nintendo Switch https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075V4SZKB/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_gtS4zbJXD5FDW
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Might want to try this.
Dex Station for Samsung Galaxy S8 S8 Plus Note8,Type C to HDMI + USB 3.0 Female,Type-C Charger Adapter for Nintendo Switch https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075V4SZKB/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_gtS4zbJXD5FDW
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Interesting.....in full disclosure, I got a Dex dock.....trying to decide if i'm going to keep it....
Seemed to find some traction for this here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to/wip-samsung-s8-dex-dex-station-t3605933