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So I got one of the variations of this rather generic Chinese tablet and am very interested to get development on it going. Some folks over at Slatedroid (currently down for upgrades) started messing around with this tablet.
So far we have root via the normal su/superuser.apk method. There seems to be no NAND lock of any kind or no bootloader mischief going on, Either. The CPU is the same used in the Galaxy S and Tab from what I understand.
Some brave soul (username Asure on Slatedroid) also found an older kernel source for it, as well as source for some of the drivers. We've seen a couple of firmware updates going so far in the last two months or so.
These are the general tech specs for this device, and its similarly named and equipped friends (Dropad A8, Haipad M7, etc):
Dimensions: 196.5*125*14.5mm
Weight: 0.510g
LCD: Capacitive Multi-touch 2-point 7" @ 800x480
CPU: Samsung S5PV210 (ARM v7 Cortex A8) @ 1.0GHz
RAM: 512MB DDR2 RAM
Wifi: 802.11 b/g/n support
NAND: 2/4GB NAND Flash (On most models, some have no NAND or as little as 256MB)
Camera: Front Camera, 1.3MP
Battery: Dual 2250mAh batteries (also seems to change per device 'brand')
Others: USB2.0 support both normal and host mode, HDMI 1.3 output
Runs a rather generic Froyo on it. Ask me for any more info, I hope we can get more support for this going. I'd probably be willing to donate a bit to get interested (and experienced) developers going.
Is there a different thread going on about this device? Search didn't show anything.
Haven't found anything similar in XDA about it or the variants.
I'm thinking of getting it, too. Was hoping I can find more support for this device in here. Gingerbread, plausible?
This device is pretty good, but no xda support yet.
This device is basically a Galaxy Tab Wifi 4GB, as the hardware is the same.
I did a CM7 port for it. See SD for more details, XDA topic is dead
Can't believe there are no more people on XDA who have a Dropad / Haipad / Herotab. Good hardware en cheap! I hope there is a dev who can make a custom recovery for this tablet, that would make it next to perfect!
better buy a branded tablet
That herotab c8 is my second tablet that I bought it from aliexpress, yeah i know it is a lousy place but the price was much cheaper than merimobiles.
I sold back the first cheap tablet which is bloody slow and specs are very low which is under $100.
The second tablet that i bought was C8/herotab/whatever they call it. (yeah I made a mistake twice.)
Before I bought this, I read a bunch of reviews by c8 owners on youtube, including some videos posted on merimobiles. And I convinced myself that 1GHz cpu powered tablet would be great. yeah I was partially right.
Running applications + watching videos are simply awesome. avi, mkv, 1080 play flawlessly, I watch only 720p because of the file size, so watching movie on it was awesome.
cons
Unresponsive compare to Galaxy tab(i think you are going to talk about the price tag)
Compare to the crowd working on branded phone/tablet, Very few people are working on the customised rom.
And bloody heavy, yeah as a tablet half a Kg is pretty heavy.
What else.
I even planned to sell it back but now my daughter plays angry bird, watches nursery rhymes videos on it. So I leave it with her.
The worst thing is no developers at xda are interested to work on it
yes. very good machine. I just know it is generic one with many other name like Haipad M7, Dropad a8, Apad 7009. all of them have an issue in common:
either skype or fring does work on them. I am keen to know if someone has video call working on it. thanks for your input
i managed to initiate a qik videocall via wifi but it took me many calls to get a connection that didnt broke after a vew seconds.
i have installed asure's cm7 beta 0.4 + launcher pro plus with honeycomb theme and layout. works great in everyday use. after deleting the unnecessary phone related apk's the battery lasts for at least a whole at heavy use and up to 2.5 days with much standby time. im loving it. it's not perfect but it's more than you'd expect from such a lowprice device.
Hey if you want ROMS and firmware updates for this device, I think this is THE page you need
http://www.slatedroid.com/forum/139-herotab-c8dropad-a8/
I'll be shortly in China very soon and would like to grab a "deal-breaker" tablet. Please help me out, I have no clue which brand is popular enough to be supported at XDA and which model is expected to have less problems. I'm sure there are good ones, better build quality, that play nicely, don't crash, don't have HW/SW issues, etc. Some popular model!
I'd like:
- Quad-core A9 Rock 3188 or Exynos 4412 CPU,
- 10,1" or 9,7" HD/retina resolution 1920x1200 or 2048x1536
- 2GB RAM
- Bluetooth
- HW volume buttons
- sleek/thin design
- better battery (>7,500 mAh)
- smaller bezel if possible
- black or silver if possible
- USB charging as well, if possible
- case with a BT (full-size) keyboard that fits
Wishful thinking:
- XDA support (like ROMs, problems solving, tweaks, maybe even running Ubuntu on it)
- manufacturer's support in FW updates
Both formats are ok:
a) iPad format (4:3), retina (2048x1536): e.g. Visture V79HD, Cube U9GT5/U9GTV, Yuandao Vido N90 FHD, Pipo M6, Hyundai Play X900 , Freelander PD800, Ainol Novo9, Aoson M33
b) Nexus format (16:10), HD (1920x1200): e.g. Ramos W30HD (Samsung SoC), Cube U30GT2 (ugly), Huawei MediaPad 10 FHD (expensive)
- What model of the above would you recommend?
- Pipo M6 is a newcomer, just introduced!
- I like Visture V79HD the most (with BT keyboard), but the are no reviews on the net, no XDA topics, empty forum on Visture website. Scroll down for lots of pics:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2048...C-Visture-V97-HD-Rockchip-Quad/914676697.html
- Popular Pipo M9 is nice, but low-res.
Please be kind and suggest a model or two or three that fits! Thanks a lot!
The Samsung note 10.1 is a great tablet and has a thread on xda. Also the nexus 10 is good to. I think they both have 2 gb of ram but I could be wrong. The note has tons of case options. Not sure about the nexus. Either one is a good choice.
Press thanks if I've helped you!
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^ Yeah, thanks, I know a lot about Samsung Tab and Nexus, I'm now looking for a Chinese tablet, since I'll be in China for short and can buy it cheap.
plz provide a section for pipo and cube and hynudai and other chinesse tablets
for full support and devolopment
Freelander PD800 HD
I have no experience with it from a software standpoint, but in my opinion, just by looking at specs and what would probably get you the most stability/bang for your buck would be the upcoming Freelander PD800 HD. The HD version specifically. It's going to have an Exynos 5250 (the same SoC as in the Nexus 10) so the weird choppiness and lag spikes and battery issues the Rockchip/Allwinner chips have is going to be avoided. It also has a retina display as per the original Freelander PD800. You can go check it out on Geekbuying. Kind of want one myself.
My two cent's
Pipo M6.
Got mine a little more than a week ago and am very happy with it.
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I got Pipo M8 Pro which works like a charm, not bulky & more stylish than M6. I played with both but finally choose M8 pro. It does not have a Retina display but I don't mind even though I have Full HD display on my smartphone. I'm using ROM (FW) with SDK 2.0 upgrade for RK3188. Smooth & nice.
However, I also think M6 is a very good deal, especially after releasing SDK upgrade.
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There are already couple of dual boot - able operating systems (OS) tablets on the market especially the well-known Teclast tablets with their Air 3G, Air II, X10HD, X80h and I am sure they will update their entire range of tablets with Dual boot OS, perhaps the other chinese manufacturers, but that does not matter as Teclast is the very best chinese brand for tablets. (quality-wise)
In consequence, I have a couple questions/suggestions. I want to buy Teclast X80h over any other tablets because it is extremely cheap (119$), it is dual OS and it is high-quality as any other Teclast tablets (for such low price!).
1. Are there any bugs with the dual OS that come from the factory? Do I have to be aware of it in any way? There is also a single Windows 8.1 OS for 115$, so if it is a problem with the Dual-OS, then I can go for the simple version.
2. How's the experience with the Dual OS? Does both OS work flawless or is there sacrificed anything?
3. Can you single boot? For instance, if I want to run only Win8.1, can I just boot Win8.1 and if I want Android I just restart the tablet and choose Android?
4. How much space is left in the internal memory on a 32GB eMMC? (~approximately) - Just out of curiosity because I heard Teclast supports on Win8.1 microSD cards up to 128GB with no problem.
I know there are other threads especially on Air 3G tablet, but there are over 400 pages. I thought it would be easier to make a thread and those who had experience to share their opinion with us, those who are willing to buy Dual OS tablets.
For me, the Android version is not a must. I need the Windows mostly, but if there's a Dual OS version for 5$ more, why not get it. This is why I created the thread, so we the newbs get help. Any other discussion can be talked, I made this thread as a general discussion one, where people talk about ideas, tweaks, big deals, recommendations, ask for help etc
A very good tablet, but the system takes up more memory.
I want buy the Teclast x80h too. I'm waiting for the answers too!
I recently got the Teclast x98 Air II (without 3G, as I prefer to use my 4G mifi).
Overall, the build quality is excellent and the screen is very close to what you'd get on the iPad Air. The large 4:3 form factor also works better for tablets as I like surfing in portrait.
Dual boot works well, you just reboot and choose which OS you want to use. To switch, just shutdown and restart. The only thing I'd say is a problem will be the eMMC size of just 32gb. I have about 7gb free on each side of the system. You can partition a microSD with ext4 and use Link2SD on the android side, and move most things to the microSD on Windows. But if you use a lot of Windows Store apps, they can't be installed on removable media.
Performance is OK for most general tasks. Remember it's an Atom processor, so don't expect it to fly on 3D games. Not much of a gamer myself, so it doesn't matter much to me. I've thrown all sorts of videos at it and so far they all played pretty smoothly.
Teclast recently sorted out the Play Store bug with an update, so both sides of the system works as expected. I've experienced some freezes and thermal event message on Android, but they don't happen often and only when I was trying to play a 3D game.
I'd say get one with a larger screen if you plan on using Windows. The faster Z3736F processor on the X98 and X10HD can certainly be felt.
There is that Onda v891w that was released not so long ago for 25$ more than X80h. It is not Dual OS, it is only Windows 8.1, but it is a better alternative for X80h as far as specifications are concerned. I am more interested in Windows. In fact, I do not need the Android. I thought it was a bonus on X80h, but after all I wouldn't use it at all. Anyway, V891w has bigger 8.9" FULL HD IPS screen, the all the other specs are the same. But how reliable is Onda? I know that Teclast is a safe buy, but can anybody tell me about Onda's products? It is a relatively high-end tablet. Please owners of Onda provide some infos and experiences, problems etc
I've got my eye on the recently announced Onda V919 3G Air, it looks an exact copy of the teclast but with 64gb storage for about the same price. Their dual OS switching method looks a little more polished also... still I'll be waiting on reviews..
AfXv237 said:
There are already couple of dual boot - able operating systems (OS) tablets on the market especially the well-known Teclast tablets with their Air 3G, Air II, X10HD, X80h and I am sure they will update their entire range of tablets with Dual boot OS, perhaps the other chinese manufacturers, but that does not matter as Teclast is the very best chinese brand for tablets. (quality-wise)
In consequence, I have a couple questions/suggestions. I want to buy Teclast X80h over any other tablets because it is extremely cheap (119$), it is dual OS and it is high-quality as any other Teclast tablets (for such low price!).
1. Are there any bugs with the dual OS that come from the factory? Do I have to be aware of it in any way? There is also a single Windows 8.1 OS for 115$, so if it is a problem with the Dual-OS, then I can go for the simple version.
Reply on X98 Air 3G Dual: All major bugs were resolved with an OTA update on 20141225. The hardware issue still remains for some batches. System crash on playing GPU intensive 3D games. but this is not specific to Dual Boot models. It appears in all. There is n fix yet. But you may avoid this by buying it from Authorized seller on AliExpress. They confirmed that fresh batches don't have this issue.
2. How's the experience with the Dual OS? Does both OS work flawless or is there sacrificed anything?
Reply: It works great. Nothing is sacrificed except for the Disk space used by each OS.
3. Can you single boot? For instance, if I want to run only Win8.1, can I just boot Win8.1 and if I want Android I just restart the tablet and choose Android?
Reply: Yes, you can single boot. The information "switch with button at bottom" is not true because both OS runs separately never simultaneously.
4. How much space is left in the internal memory on a 32GB eMMC? (~approximately) - Just out of curiosity because I heard Teclast supports on Win8.1 microSD cards up to 128GB with no problem.
Reply: Check the attachments of this post.
I know there are other threads especially on Air 3G tablet, but there are over 400 pages. I thought it would be easier to make a thread and those who had experience to share their opinion with us, those who are willing to buy Dual OS tablets.
For me, the Android version is not a must. I need the Windows mostly, but if there's a Dual OS version for 5$ more, why not get it. This is why I created the thread, so we the newbs get help. Any other discussion can be talked, I made this thread as a general discussion one, where people talk about ideas, tweaks, big deals, recommendations, ask for help etc
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You may think that Android and 3G are not must, but soon you may have to change this opinion when you run into a situation like you are outside at a place with poor wifi or a special offer running on just Android apps !!
That's just my opinion.
The main drawback with dual OS is the storage space. So in that way, ONDA 919 Dual Boot is better, but we don't know how it fares in other areas. Like it has a 6000mAh battery which is sure to fail you.
The 9.7 inch models gives you an edge because they have Intel Z3736F which turbo boosts to 2.16 GHz.
smartchip said:
I recently got the Teclast x98 Air II.
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Hi,
Does the usb behave like on PC?
Can you plug USB powered hub and connect: Mouse, keyboard, usb printer , and all working ?
Tnx in advance.
brajomobil said:
Hi,
Does the usb behave like on PC?
Can you plug USB powered hub and connect: Mouse, keyboard, usb printer , and all working ?
Tnx in advance.
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YEs you can. Check videos on youtube. There are lots of them. You can charge it, use keyboard,mouse and whatever you want simultaneously with a OTG cable and a USB port hub. I recommend you a 3.0 one with at least 4 usb ports.
After reading many reviews, I think i'll be purchasing one aswell. I can live with the limited storage as I'd be mainly using it for office, reading, occasional movie watching and writing notes. If you are going to buy, MAKE SURE you buy it from the authorized seller as other sellers may have older models which contains the bugs and glitches. It may be a few dollars more expensive but is worth it to not have the troubles.
Aside from this, a question I want to ask is that is there any warranty at all for international buyers -- I'm in Canada.
There seems to be a misconception whether or not the X98 both 3g non 3g models have gps or not. Can anyone clarify this?
AfXv237 said:
YEs you can. Check videos on youtube. There are lots of them. You can charge it, use keyboard,mouse and whatever you want simultaneously with a OTG cable and a USB port hub. I recommend you a 3.0 one with at least 4 usb ports.
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Thank you very much. Do you know is it possible to install win8.1 x86 over UEFI. I have found only x64 tutorials. I need x86 windows.
brajomobil said:
Thank you very much. Do you know is it possible to install win8.1 x86 over UEFI. I have found only x64 tutorials. I need x86 windows.
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Can't really answer that. Ask the user Hendrickson. He's the master. He'll give you any info you want.
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Can't really answer that. Ask the user Hendrickson. He's the master. He'll give you any info you want.
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Thank you. I have spent 4 days searching the internet and fiddling with virtual machines and UEFI boot. And this is the conclusion !
You can't install or boot x86 vhd machine on x64 cpu with UEFI x64
With bios boot you can have x86 and x64 machines. Too bad this tablet don't have legacy boot
I am looking at these 2 tablets primarily for work and abit of play (maybe running of some light games on it):
Onda V919 3g air (dual boot, no need to reboot):
http://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?sp...fffb24b49dc30375461&user_id=1770982627&is_b=1
Teclast Air II (dual boot, need to reboot):
Qoo10 - Teclast Windows/Android Tablet with 3G [Retina /Intel Atom Quad Core C... : Smartphone & Tab...
Prices for these 2 are within 200 USD.
If it were up to you to pick one, which one would you choose? (taking into consideration the battery life, ports available, storage and 3G, and of cos the dual boot option and many others)
for the design ,i prefer the former one .
and have got close specs ,i recommend
first one
You can also read the text review here:
http://www.mobiletechasia.com/?p=1677
The Teclast X98 Pro has been launched at 1399Yuan ($225USD) with the following specs, see below:
Processor: 2.24 GHz quad-core Intel Atom X5-Z8500
Memory/Storage: 4 GB LPDDR3 RAM; 64 GB internal storage and microSD slot
Display: 9.7-inch multitouch with 2,048X1,536 pixels and 264 ppi
Cameras: 2 MP front, 5 MP back
Connectivity: WiFi 802.11 b/g/n, Bluetooth 4.0, mini HDMI, micro USB 2.0
Operating system: Windows 10 Home Edition
Battery: 8000 mAh
Weight: 1.19 pounds
It could definitely be a Surface 3 killer assuming the user experience doesn't suck.
This thread will be updated as more info, reviews, unboxings and questions come in.
I've been looking forward to this device. My only problem with it is I haven't seen any decent keyboard docks that aren't just flimsy foldable cases for any of the X98 line.
Its on sale on Tinydeal too.
http://www.tinydeal.com/es/teclast-...-4gb-64gb-tablet-pc-w-bluetooth-p-155607.html
I will have to buy it from here since aliexpress does not ship to my country.
Heard that they will release a dual boot android/10 down there road.
Any truth to this? if so i will hold tight for that.
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had it open in a tab i hadn't got to yet.
http://techtablets.com/2015/08/teclast-x98-pro-price-dual-boot-and-4g-systems-to-follow/
Wonder how long we are talking... a few weeks? a few months?
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People seem to think that the dual boot is just a software flash/upgrade away. And that you wouldn't have to actually buy a different model.
This would make me pull the trigger on it.
What do you guys think?
PeterLOliver said:
I've been looking forward to this device. My only problem with it is I haven't seen any decent keyboard docks that aren't just flimsy foldable cases for any of the X98 line.
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It's dimensions are just about identical to the iPad Air, I'm reasonably sure something like this should work just fine - http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/ultrathin-air?crid=1608
Ricochet90 said:
Its on sale on Tinydeal too.
http://www.tinydeal.com/es/teclast-...-4gb-64gb-tablet-pc-w-bluetooth-p-155607.html
I will have to buy it from here since aliexpress does not ship to my country.
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Link is broken, sounds Tinydeal canceled. Would give a shot to geekbuying http://www.geekbuying.com/item/Tecl...-64G-HDMI-Bluetooth-WiFi---Sliver-350953.html
Tinydeal just updated the link.
Here it is again http://www.tinydeal.com/es/teclast-...-4gb-64gb-tablet-pc-w-bluetooth-p-155607.html
I've been looking at this tablet for the past hour and it seems really nice. Also, the best price I could find was here: http://dealsnow.info/2015/08/14/teclast-x98-pro-best-windows-10-tablet-currently-available/
It also offers a 5$ discount off the regular price.
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People seem to think that the dual boot is just a software flash/upgrade away. And that you wouldn't have to actually buy a different model.
This would make me pull the trigger on it.
What do you guys think?
Any thoughts on JustusIV question on this?? I am in the same position, ready to hit the "preorder" button if anybody could indicate if this would be "dual-bootable" after a software upgrade and not beeing a hardware issue?
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People seem to think that the dual boot is just a software flash/upgrade away. And that you wouldn't have to actually buy a different model.
This would make me pull the trigger on it.
What do you guys think?
Any thoughts on JustusIV question on this?? I am in the same position, ready to hit the "preorder" button if anybody could indicate if this would be "dual-bootable" after a software upgrade and not beeing a hardware issue?
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According to the official Teclast website this is a Windows only tablet. I could not find any mention of dual-boot. Also, at the link I posted earlier it seems to be in Stock, not just pre-order.
cant wait for it to deliver!
hey all i just bought this tablet. I really don't care if it has dual boot on it or not. I have been testing out an emulator called DROID4X and it is absolutely amazing. Its extremely fast once you get it downloaded of course (slow download). I ran a bunch of benchmarks and scored higher than any other system. so the emulator works really good. very stable, and all the games Ive played on it so far work perfectly.
I scored 83,000 on ice storm unlimited.
114,000 on antutu.
8.926 seconds on 10,000,000 pi.
of course I'm running this all on an oc 4790k build but even if the z8500 can do 30% of that ill be fine. If they get dual boot working on it even better. Until then the emulator works perfect. i would score higher but my system isn't optimized to run android. I actually ran android off of boot able USB and it was horribly slow. i might snag another ssd to install it because i don't want to fragment my windows ssd. that's one concern i have about the dual boot. can anyone chime in on how well the system will separate the files for dual boot? what if you need to reinstall windows or reset android?
That's amazing. have you tried PS2 emulators (or gamecube)?
Greetings my friends! Any way to clone dump the eMMC to an external backup drive, USB Flash Drive (Pen drive) or microSD Card?
I need to backup everything including Windows and Android boot partitions, data partitions, recovery partitions before doing anything on the tablet.
Thanks!
temperature problems
Hello,
did you detect temperature problems which my cause of core throttleing ?
I read in another forum abour 86C in one core. Ther is a video how to improve
cooling capacity of the tablet.
Thinking about to use it as desktop replacement for my daugther and me.
Is it fast enough for itunes, MS Office, Full HD Video and some easy gaming ?
best regards huggy2008
It is. On youtube you can find some videos that show some basic performance
$239 at aliexpress now. Win 10 and android 5.1 pre-installed but it doesn't say if it's dual-boot. Sale price (20% off) only valid for 24 hours starting September 14.
Nice find. I also posted the link on my site (http://dealsnow.info/2015/09/14/teclast-x98-pro-dual-boot-for-just-240/ has affiliate link)
Direct link to the product (no affiliate link): http://www.aliexpress.com/store/pro...ablet-PC-Intel-Cherry/609719_32458020265.html
Hey guys, I uploaded my video review and unboxing of the Teclast X98 Pro!
Hi Gents, also the dual boot version is out for sale
I will getting one tomorrow. Its the windows 10 only version. Will be my first tablet.