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Well, as far as I know, this is an original idea I thought of the other day when watching my friend reboot his Iphone. As soon as it loaded up the main screen and he unlocked, it responded and moved as fast as it did if 2 hours after a reboot. That made me think, when i first boot-up my phone, it is laggy, slow, unresponsive because of the media scanner running, but this only happens for about 20-30 seconds at most, but why can't Google just start the media scanning when there's 20 seconds left on the boot animation. I realize this would lengthen the boot animation further, but personally, I'd rather wake to a responsive phone with no lag etc.
Yes? No? Am I just stupid? Opinions please.
gobluewolverines4 said:
Well, as far as I know, this is an original idea I thought of the other day when watching my friend reboot his Iphone. As soon as it loaded up the main screen and he unlocked, it responded and moved as fast as it did if 2 hours after a reboot. That made me think, when i first boot-up my phone, it is laggy, slow, unresponsive because of the media scanner running, but this only happens for about 20-30 seconds at most, but why can't Google just start the media scanning when there's 20 seconds left on the boot animation. I realize this would lengthen the boot animation further, but personally, I'd rather wake to a responsive phone with no lag etc.
Yes? No? Am I just stupid? Opinions please.
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I like your idea.
I came from iPhone and have definitely noticed that difference myself. Personally, I think it's worth it, but it would be nice to have ALL of the startup stuff done during startup. My iPhone 4 takes much longer than my SGS2 to actually show the lock screen, but the amount of time until I'm able to use the phone is about the same.
Maybe that's something the devs here could look into building into a ROM. Just have it do everything BEFORE showing the lock screen. Heck, I'd deal with a static boot logo instead of an animation if it would work better.
For me, I like the Android way. I can make calls and send sms while media scanning is in progress.
Ofcourse the initial show off is missing..
What I miss in my galaxy s2 is a reboot option in stock rom..
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Hmm, either this issue is rectified in ICS or the Nexus is just blazing fast
I'm using my phone at normal speeds the moment it boots up.
I, believe there is in app in market that allows you to disable the media scanner on startup and refresh it whenever you see fit.
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But see the thing is, what I would prefer is that it were to still happen, I just wouldn't mind it at the end of my boot.. even though my boot time is about 3 minutes for some reason
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Good idea but that is the way Android works.....
It is a pain in the ass too that you cannot set the alarm and switch off the
phone to save battery in the night. It will never ring to wake you up in the morning.
That's something Google really ought to fix (and therefore won't).
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Media scanning process takes about 15 seconds, and I'm ok with it, consideeing I only power cycle my Skyrocket once or twice a week.
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There's something Apple has become really good at in my opinion and it's just that. Making the experience transparent. I'd rather prefer to see smooth transitions everywhere instead of snappy but choppy transitions. They both end up being the same on terms of real usability.
MikeyMike01 said:
That's something Google really ought to fix (and therefore won't).
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What needs fixing? I'm assuming you mean media scanner not previous post about turning phone off?
Media scanner is quick even though I take lots of pics and use lots of mp3's on my phone so I don't see it as a problem myself.
Dave
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polobunny said:
There's something Apple has become really good at in my opinion and it's just that. Making the experience transparent. I'd rather prefer to see smooth transitions everywhere instead of snappy but choppy transitions. They both end up being the same on terms of real usability.
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Spot on. Also just the little things they had, like the nice little flowing animation when you open a folder, or even their multitasking. They added multitasking after Android had it, except they made it nicer, smoother etc.
Allright, i've owned my Sensation for several weeks now. Today, i sent a text, and as soon as i went back to the home menu, the phone turned itself off, and rebooted. It was a pi**-off, for sure, and now im worried.
I've done some research, and apparently (correct me if im wrong) it's because of too much RAM usage. However, i set the phone to notify me when free RAM is less than 50MB, and it never did. It just pulled an auto-reboot on me.
Should i worry about this? Is it normal; basically 100% guaranteed that it is because of low RAM?
Which leads me to this: I ALWAYS questioned all the things i had running at the same time. That's probably the only thing i don't like about the phone. Things start automatically. I have an EQ program, Groove IP, and the Music Player running at the same time. I don't understand why the phone won't just close apps if they aren't in use... Or at least if there was a more streamlined way of closing apps. Not going into Settings,Apps,Manage Apps, Running... That's pretty stupid, if you ask me... If there are alternate/better methods, i'd like to know them.
Back to the point, though. Should i worry about this reboot? And, what exactly is the cause/is it RAM usage?
Do not worry unless it becomes a persistant problem.
And even then do not worry because it can probably be fixed as long as its a software issue and not a hardware problem.
And free ram isnt a big deal with android. If you use it, you will use up all your ram quickly. But android will kick things not in active use out of ram when apps in use need more ram. Having free ram is actually a waste.
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Oh, ok...If it's a one-time thing, then i won't worry about it. However, i'd still like to know the cause of it.
Why does this happen?
Did your phone feel warm or hot when it switched off?
Okay, this thing about RAM is one of the biggest misconceptions I think a lot of people have regarding Android. Android doesn't use RAM like Windows. On Android, RAM usage is a good thing. It means that when you want to reload an application, it does it quickly. In other words, RAM unused is just RAM wasted on Android. And the other thing is, apps running in the background do not consume resources unless they also have background processes running as well. The other thing is that Android will automatically kill off certain processes when your RAM is low. So yea. You don't have to worry about RAM.
If you're worried about the crap that comes preinstalled with the phone, you might want to consider rooting and removing all those apps though.
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Oh, ok...If it's a one-time thing, then i won't worry about it. However, i'd still like to know the cause of it.
Why does this happen?
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Are you using an app killer to monitor your free ram?
That could easily be the cause. Sometimes those app killers will kill the wrong things and force a reboot.
You're better off dumping apps killers altogether. They work counter productively to the way Linux operates.
Yeah, i kill processes/apps in the settings menu, don't use any downloaded/third party apps for that purpose.
I guess i'll stop doing that...
HOWEVER, i still don't like how, for example, once i sign into Groove IP for the first time, it will stay signed in. Every consecutive time i go to use the phone again, it signs in automatically... After it wakes up from sleep mode, it will sign into Groove IP, and load things like the EQ program i use. I won't worry too much about the EQ, but other apps like Groove IP that are connected to some sort of signal, i don't want automatically running... Is it really not safe to just terminate a process in task manager?
Finally, on to the subject of reboots...Since owning the phone for...I don't know...A few weeks now? I've only actually turned it off/rebooted once...
Did that contribute to the random reboot? Was that not a good move, on my part, to pretty much always keep the phone on (although in sleep mode when not in use, of course...) ?
Prenihility said:
Finally, on to the subject of reboots...Since owning the phone for...I don't know...A few weeks now? I've only actually turned it off/rebooted once...
Did that contribute to the random reboot? Was that not a good move, on my part, to pretty much always keep the phone on (although in sleep mode when not in use, of course...) ?
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Yeah it could have. Try reboot the day every week at the bare minimum. Ideally, I'd suggest rebooting every 4 days or so.
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Yeah, i kill processes/apps in the settings menu, don't use any downloaded/third party apps for that purpose.
I guess i'll stop doing that...
HOWEVER, i still don't like how, for example, once i sign into Groove IP for the first time, it will stay signed in. Every consecutive time i go to use the phone again, it signs in automatically... After it wakes up from sleep mode, it will sign into Groove IP, and load things like the EQ program i use. I won't worry too much about the EQ, but other apps like Groove IP that are connected to some sort of signal, i don't want automatically running... Is it really not safe to just terminate a process in task manager?
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If you are manually killing an app that's causing problems / pissing you off / or because you just don't like it's face, then no. That's okay. It's the automated app killers that kill everything as soon as you close them and then keep killing and killing like battle droids gone berserk that you want to avoid. It's that constant killing, which means an app restart and power usage, that will drain battery. And being unmonitored they can kill the wrong things that cause system instability.
But if you have 1 app that's bothering you you can kill it through the apps menu. That's normal.
The bigger problem is an app that constantly turns itself on like that. I hate those. There should be an option in the app settings to prevent that from happening. If there isn't, it's a bad app no matter how well it does what it's supposed to do.
You can use gemini app manager to change autorun settings for each app individually and autokiller memory optimizer to change the preset android memory limits so your phone automatically closes apps itself a little bit sooner.
Both are free apps but require root.
Gemini is really good. Certain apps start just because you received a text or plugged your usb in. Or your signal changed. I put a stop to that straight away!! Just don't change the settings for system apps.
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Happened again... Alright, im being irritated by this restarting problem... My phone was just idle, i haven't touched it for hours. It was next to me on my desk, and i heard/felt the vibration upon restart.
Should i call my service provider for a replacement? This is ridiculous... I didn't get this thing expecting it to restart on me.
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Happened again... Alright, im being irritated by this restarting problem... My phone was just idle, i haven't touched it for hours. It was next to me on my desk, and i heard/felt the vibration upon restart.
Should i call my service provider for a replacement? This is ridiculous... I didn't get this thing expecting it to restart on me.
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They are going to make you go through a lot of TS steps that you can do prior to calling them.
Have you downloaded any apps recently, say just before you had the problem the first time. It could be the fault of a buggy app, (Usually not likely, but is possible). Are you rooted or fully stock?
As for the Groove ID - look in settings, there may be a way to stop the auto sign in. Just an idea, I don't use it.
I'm not having anymore problems with Groove IP auto sign in. The "lite" version of the app doesn't have the option to disable it, anyway. I just don't run it, unless i need to use it.
This is the second or third time it's restarted. I believe it's the second time, since the 23rd of April, when i created this thread.
As far as rooted or not rooted, i'm not sure what that means. I think it's in regards to the SD card. No, i haven't messed around with it. It's stock. Other than adding some music to the phone. Nothing has been messed around with.
I'm really annoyed by the fact that this happened AGAIN during idle/sleep mode. I wasn't even using the phone. It was just sitting there. It's quite irritating.
Anyhow. What are all the possibilities of the reboots? I'm starting to think it's not lack of memory. Supposedly the RAM-related issue is Sense restarting because of lack of RAM.
The phone vibrates, and the HTC logo comes up, and finally comes to the Home screen.
The only good news, really, in the end, is that it's only happened a couple of times in such a long span of time... I seriously hope i get this figured out, and it never happens again. Or else i'm getting a replacement, for piece of mind, and as a solution.
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I'm not having anymore problems with Groove IP auto sign in. The "lite" version of the app doesn't have the option to disable it, anyway. I just don't run it, unless i need to use it.
This is the second or third time it's restarted. I believe it's the second time, since the 23rd of April, when i created this thread.
As far as rooted or not rooted, i'm not sure what that means. I think it's in regards to the SD card. No, i haven't messed around with it. It's stock. Other than adding some music to the phone. Nothing has been messed around with.
I'm really annoyed by the fact that this happened AGAIN during idle/sleep mode. I wasn't even using the phone. It was just sitting there. It's quite irritating.
Anyhow. What are all the possibilities of the reboots? I'm starting to think it's not lack of memory. Supposedly the RAM-related issue is Sense restarting because of lack of RAM.
The phone vibrates, and the HTC logo comes up, and finally comes to the Home screen.
The only good news, really, in the end, is that it's only happened a couple of times in such a long span of time... I seriously hope i get this figured out, and it never happens again. Or else i'm getting a replacement, for piece of mind, and as a solution.
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Referring back to my previous question, did you install any apps prior to the first reboot?
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Referring back to my previous question, did you install any apps prior to the first reboot?
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Oops. Forgot, sorry... Uuuummmm... Either the Equalizer App, or Groove IP. The only ones i've downloaded. Although im leaning more towards Groove IP (doesn't start up anymore though; because i don't want it to. Never launched it).
Regardless, are you saying i should uninstall it?
Also, one thing i want to add, that i find a bit strange. If i restart the phone, the display brightness will be noticeably brighter than what i actually set it to. It's almost as if i have to remind the phone of the brightness level i set in display options. All i have to do is go to the brightness setting, and touch the slider.
Is this normal behaviour? For it to be brighter upon startup? (even when reaching the home screen/whilst the main UI, past HTC logo screen)
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Oops. Forgot, sorry... Uuuummmm... Either the Equalizer App, or Groove IP. The only ones i've downloaded. Although im leaning more towards Groove IP (doesn't start up anymore though; because i don't want it to. Never launched it).
Regardless, are you saying i should uninstall it?
Also, one thing i want to add, that i find a bit strange. If i restart the phone, the display brightness will be noticeably brighter than what i actually set it to. It's almost as if i have to remind the phone of the brightness level i set in display options. All i have to do is go to the brightness setting, and touch the slider.
Is this normal behaviour? For it to be brighter upon startup? (even when reaching the home screen/whilst the main UI, past HTC logo screen)
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It's a possibility that the app is causing the problem, though it is a small one. You might uninstall it and try it for a while, see if the device continues to reboot.
As far as your quirky brightness issue... It's technology. No two devices are the same, even if they have the "same" hardware/software. That almost seems like a fluke happenstance. Just a minor bug in your software.
You might want to read into S-Offing your phone and rooting it. Do some research into it. There are a lot of perks of rooting your device and going with custom ROMs. And if you ever have issues and have to get a replacement, as long as you can turn the device on and it's functional, you can always set it back to S-On with no root.
I've learned over the years, and this is just my personal opinion, stock ROMs are more likely and it seems as if they are meant to have more problems, however it's like anything else in the tech world, it's bound to deteriorate over time. It's how they keep you buying their product.
There are some really good guides that lead through the process step for step if you decide to S-off and root. And there are a lot of helpful people on XDA that will answer any of your questions.
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It's a possibility that the app is causing the problem, though it is a small one. You might uninstall it and try it for a while, see if the device continues to reboot.
As far as your quirky brightness issue... It's technology. No two devices are the same, even if they have the "same" hardware/software. That almost seems like a fluke happenstance. Just a minor bug in your software.
You might want to read into S-Offing your phone and rooting it. Do some research into it. There are a lot of perks of rooting your device and going with custom ROMs. And if you ever have issues and have to get a replacement, as long as you can turn the device on and it's functional, you can always set it back to S-On with no root.
I've learned over the years, and this is just my personal opinion, stock ROMs are more likely and it seems as if they are meant to have more problems, however it's like anything else in the tech world, it's bound to deteriorate over time. It's how they keep you buying their product.
There are some really good guides that lead through the process step for step if you decide to S-off and root. And there are a lot of helpful people on XDA that will answer any of your questions.
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Allright. Went to grab my phone just now, and saw the error notification. The old "abnormal reset" notification.
I'm going to assume it reset on its own once again. So....
Any insight into this? Why's is reseting itself? Hasn't happened in a while... but... still.
It was just sitting there, idling.
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I have it installed too, and frankly speaking I do not see any real, angible improvement past placebo level. I'm sure someone will do some benchmarking (eventually) and prove me either wrong or right., but I will not be installing this on my next clean install. It doesn;t hurt, I guess, to try and see for yourself, but I just wanted to chime in with my exprience, which is drastically different from yours.
That said, I've gone from anyone but myself giving me homework to do, and may be too cynical. I'm a beta guy, though, and as such, I'd need tangible improvement. Again, I haven't seen any.
By the way: I tried running the app a few times in succession -- is it normal it keeps reporting to have 'trimmed' each and every time, although there's only seconds between the end of one run and the start of the next? I thought there shouldn't be new stuff to trim on that timescale... <?>
MartyHulskemper said:
I have it installed too, and frankly speaking I do not see any real, angible improvement past placebo level. I'm sure someone will do some benchmarking (eventually) and prove me either wrong or right., but I will not be installing this on my next clean install. It doesn;t hurt, I guess, to try and see for yourself, but I just wanted to chime in with my exprience, which is drastically different from yours.
That said, I've gone from anyone but myself giving me homework to do, and may be too cynical. I'm a beta guy, though, and as such, I'd need tangible improvement. Again, I haven't seen any.
By the way: I tried running the app a few times in succession -- is it normal it keeps reporting to have 'trimmed' each and every time, although there's only seconds between the end of one run and the start of the next? I thought there shouldn't be new stuff to trim on that timescale... <?>
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I'm with you, see no improment, actually after browsing with stock browser on Yahoo finance for about 1 hour and my browser started acting up. It pause and sometime locked up then FC, I don't know if this caused by TRIM or something else, but again no improvement on my device.
buhohitr said:
I'm with you, see no improment, actually after browsing with stock browser on Yahoo finance for about 1 hour and my browser started acting up. It pause and sometime locked up then FC, I don't know if this caused by TRIM or something else, but again no improvement on my device.
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I've had some apps lock up as well, but I have no idea if that's related to having this installed. The browser eems to be especially sensitive indeed, but I've had it on Redditmag+ as well (but that has been loading slow as **** anyway for the past two days).
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MartyHulskemper said:
I have it installed too, and frankly speaking I do not see any real, angible improvement past placebo level. I'm sure someone will do some benchmarking (eventually) and prove me either wrong or right., but I will not be installing this on my next clean install. It doesn;t hurt, I guess, to try and see for yourself, but I just wanted to chime in with my exprience, which is drastically different from yours.
That said, I've gone from anyone but myself giving me homework to do, and may be too cynical. I'm a beta guy, though, and as such, I'd need tangible improvement. Again, I haven't seen any.
By the way: I tried running the app a few times in succession -- is it normal it keeps reporting to have 'trimmed' each and every time, although there's only seconds between the end of one run and the start of the next? I thought there shouldn't be new stuff to trim on that timescale... <?>
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I ran 3 times in a row and it only trimmed anything the first time. I dont rely on subjective results. I time everything, every performance tweak i do involves a barrage of tests which are all timed. Since using this tweak my times are better overall. To be honest everything was alost too fast to time this time around lol. I havent benchmarked it as of yet. Everything happens a few ms faster than it did before. It took 1.5s to load my largest pdf before this tweak, now its at .8s. The first time i ran the app it trimmed over 10mB. I imagine the amount that gets trimmed impacts how much of an improvement you see.
Do we need a second thread for this?
I dont rely on subjective results. I time everything, every performance tweak i do involves a barrage of tests which are all timed. Since using this tweak my times are better overall.
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Would you mind posting your before and after times?
My initial androbench, as suggested in the fstrim faq, showed no change. I plan to run the bench again tonight, just to be sure.
fortunz said:
Do we need a second thread for this?
Would you mind posting your before and after times?
My initial androbench, as suggested in the fstrim faq, showed no change. I plan to run the bench again tonight, just to be sure.
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I doubt that you're going to see any gain, TRIM is probably just clean up all the junks (cache), and data etc.. which something similar to you wipe cache and dalvik cache, so initialy so will feel the O/S is smoother, but after a few days, it should slowdown to your normal speed. I did a super clean install of cleanrom, took some reading, like how fast to open a heavy images website, then install TRIM and the results are the same. If you test TRiM before you clear your memory and cache, you may have a smoother/snappier feeling. This is my take on this.
Sample Before/After Times
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I doubt that you're going to see any gain, TRIM is probably just clean up all the junks (cache), and data etc.. which something similar to you wipe cache and dalvik cache, so initialy so will feel the O/S is smoother, but after a few days, it should slowdown to your normal speed. I did a super clean install of cleanrom, took some reading, like how fast to open a heavy images website, then install TRIM and the results are the same. If you test TRiM before you clear your memory and cache, you may have a smoother/snappier feeling. This is my take on this.
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I cleared cache/dalvick a day before trying this, i clear after any major changes. I was trying new stock kernel but noticed more lag so i switched back to OCed kernel and cleared it.
Sample Before Times:
Boot - 40.3s
Very large pdf - 1.3s
Youtube - 1.1s
theverge.com - 6.4s
xda.com - 1.4s
LOTR3 bluray - 2.1s
Playstore downloaded apps page - 1.5s
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Boot - 36.7s
Large pdf - .8s
Youtube - .7s
theverge.com - 6s
xda.com - .9s
lotr3 bluray - 1.7s
playstore downloaded apps page - .9s
Havent tested everything bc that sample is enough for me at this point, especially considering ive noticed things are more responsive and smooth in general, especially multi touch gestures via GMD Gesture Control. Ive also noticed streaming flash videos are more responsive, which is huge for me, but entirely subjective, i dont time it. The university i go to has a course website that is flash based (bblearn, aka blackboard) and things are also more responsive on it as well.
These small improvements may seem trivial, however, every week or so I find a way to slightly drop my times, which adds up significantly over time. A drop of .2s is large enough for me to try anything, especially if it doesnt harm stability, and this app hasnt for me at this point. Call me crazy, i dont mind, im a performance nutter. I cant stand lag. DEATH TO LAG.
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I ran 3 times in a row and it only trimmed anything the first time. I dont rely on subjective results. I time everything, every performance tweak i do involves a barrage of tests which are all timed. Since using this tweak my times are better overall. To be honest everything was alost too fast to time this time around lol. I havent benchmarked it as of yet. Everything happens a few ms faster than it did before. It took 1.5s to load my largest pdf before this tweak, now its at .8s. The first time i ran the app it trimmed over 10mB. I imagine the amount that gets trimmed impacts how much of an improvement you see.
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Yeah, we heard this before. You mention your objectiveness almost every other post. As I said, I'm a beta guy and as such I respect data, but ANY improvement whatsoever is ABSOLUTELY WORTHLESS when it ONLY shows up on your "objective measurements" and not in your or someone else's "subjective measurements". Benchmarks are NOT a good representation of real-life performance.
Your stance towards people that want tangible improvement comes over as arrogant to me. I'm sorry. My largest background in online presence in from several digital photography fora, where we called people that (overly or exclusively) rely on "objective measurements" "pixel peepers" -- judging something, whether that be a camera or a photograph, or a person in your private life or an employee or co-worker, solely or overly dependently on such criteria leads to a loss of quality of "je-ne-sais-quoi", its mojo, if I may call it that. What in the world does the "improvement" you measured ("W00t! 0.1 increase in floating point operation?! I'M GOING TO TAKE ON THE WOOOOORRRRRLLLL.." <trips over power line of vacuum cleaning machine> </self-deridement>) bring me when it doesn ot result in any tangible improvement in speed of smoothness.
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buhohitr said:
I doubt that you're going to see any gain, TRIM is probably just clean up all the junks (cache), and data etc.. which something similar to you wipe cache and dalvik cache, so initialy so will feel the O/S is smoother, but after a few days, it should slowdown to your normal speed. I did a super clean install of cleanrom, took some reading, like how fast to open a heavy images website, then install TRIM and the results are the same. If you test TRiM before you clear your memory and cache, you may have a smoother/snappier feeling. This is my take on this.
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Actually, fstrim is more closer to defragging your hard drive, in a literal and figurative sense. What I'm saying here is yeah it's actually doing something (possibly) useful, but just like defragging, it's not always going to show a benefit unless your drive is really fragmented (which likely wouldn't even happen for a while, if at all). The nice thing about the ext formats is they don't exactly need this, but hey, if it works for somebody, then great!
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Actually, fstrim is more closer to defragging your hard drive, in a literal and figurative sense. What I'm saying here is yeah it's actually doing something (possibly) useful, but just like defragging, it's not always going to show a benefit unless your drive is really fragmented (which likely wouldn't even happen for a while, if at all). The nice thing about the ext formats is they don't exactly need this, but hey, if it works for somebody, then great!
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I agree with you on this!
There's no risk in trying, I grant you that. CROMI has been running a bit more stable without this fstrim ability than with it -- especially regarding apps force-closing. I guess everyone's mileage may vary.
Hi everyone,
I've always used iPhone but we switched to the Galaxy S6 a few weeks ago as I wanted to try android. The phone is fine but man it gets SO slow to the point I can barely use it. I'll be just doing normal things on it, or it will be sitting unused for awhile and I'll press the app switcher button and nothing happens. Wait 3 seconds and then it appears. Pick an app same thing nothing happens, then it appears. Or you swipe and it's laggy and slow. A friend said use clean master which when I run it always says freed 600MB of memory and then the problem seems to go away for another hour or so, but I'm constantly having to do this. My iPhone's were never slow at all and you never had to close programs. Not sure if I'm doing something wrong, but it's driving me crazy to the point I might return it.
The other issue is lots of times when I swipe to unlock, the phone unlocks but then will be running Spotify or Amazon, neither of which are on my homescreen or were running before. Clean master always says Amazon keeps restarting over and over giving my device a fever, but not sure what I can do about that.
Is there anything I should be doing or could do differently? I'm on the Samsung launcher, was on Google's for awhile but prefer Samsung's since it shows notification count, and I have the Google keyboard as well. It's not all the time, and it's not always debilitating like where it's full on frozen, it's more it just feels really slow. I had the Nexus 5 last year for maybe 2 months before switching back to iPhone but I never had this issue with it. I feel like the S6 is even slower than the Nexus 5 was to the point I'd almost rather use that phone, but I feel like this is ridiculous since I paid $250 for the Nexus 5 and the S6 was $750 so you'd expect it would run better!
Don't know what to tell you but to try a factory reset. I've had my phone for two months now and it's been blazing fast the whole time.
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ryuvann said:
Hi everyone,
I've always used iPhone but we switched to the Galaxy S6 a few weeks ago as I wanted to try android. The phone is fine but man it gets SO slow to the point I can barely use it. I'll be just doing normal things on it, or it will be sitting unused for awhile and I'll press the app switcher button and nothing happens. Wait 3 seconds and then it appears. Pick an app same thing nothing happens, then it appears. Or you swipe and it's laggy and slow. A friend said use clean master which when I run it always says freed 600MB of memory and then the problem seems to go away for another hour or so, but I'm constantly having to do this. My iPhone's were never slow at all and you never had to close programs. Not sure if I'm doing something wrong, but it's driving me crazy to the point I might return it.
The other issue is lots of times when I swipe to unlock, the phone unlocks but then will be running Spotify or Amazon, neither of which are on my homescreen or were running before. Clean master always says Amazon keeps restarting over and over giving my device a fever, but not sure what I can do about that.
Is there anything I should be doing or could do differently? I'm on the Samsung launcher, was on Google's for awhile but prefer Samsung's since it shows notification count, and I have the Google keyboard as well. It's not all the time, and it's not always debilitating like where it's full on frozen, it's more it just feels really slow. I had the Nexus 5 last year for maybe 2 months before switching back to iPhone but I never had this issue with it. I feel like the S6 is even slower than the Nexus 5 was to the point I'd almost rather use that phone, but I feel like this is ridiculous since I paid $250 for the Nexus 5 and the S6 was $750 so you'd expect it would run better!
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My S6 is damn fast, real you should try factory reset.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro
Buy this app and disable all unused or unwanted things to free up memory. It should help you a lot.
Does it back up all my info when I do that or is it like starting over? Not a huge deal I guess but yeah maybe I'll try it. Like for example sometimes I'll press home to turn on the screen, but I'll I guess accidentally press it twice so it goes to the camera. That's fine, but then I'll press home again, or back, and like nothing happens it just stays on the camera, not frozen like the image is updating live, then a second or two later it will go back to the home screen. Or I'll swipe to unlock on the lock screen, it does the bubble effect and nothing happens. I wait a sec swipe again, does the bubble as well, except it unlocks before I fully finish swiping, as in it was in the process of unlocking and I was just doing it twice.
One quick thing also, do you guys use Clean Master? It seems like it's required as it clears lots of ram and then the phone immediately speeds up. Then I read somewhere that it's better to let the phone manage ram and not this app, but I feel like the phone doesn't do a good job of it, unless having the app installed is preventing the phone from doing it itself? Maybe I'll try without it when I reset it.
ryuvann said:
One quick thing also, do you guys use Clean Master? It seems like it's required as it clears lots of ram and then the phone immediately speeds up. Then I read somewhere that it's better to let the phone manage ram and not this app, but I feel like the phone doesn't do a good job of it, unless having the app installed is preventing the phone from doing it itself? Maybe I'll try without it when I reset it.
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Well, that might be a key to solving your problem. Before Reset try first just to uninstall that "garbage" of app. It may solve your problem right away. I had some friends that also have that app installed and also problem with slow phone. Just uninstall of Clean Master solve that.
Let us know what happened.
Well that's the trade off between android and iPhone at the moment probably. iPhone may require less tweaking and trail and testing and how a phone can work.
ryuvann said:
One quick thing also, do you guys use Clean Master? It seems like it's required as it clears lots of ram and then the phone immediately speeds up. Then I read somewhere that it's better to let the phone manage ram and not this app, but I feel like the phone doesn't do a good job of it, unless having the app installed is preventing the phone from doing it itself? Maybe I'll try without it when I reset it.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro
Clean Master is real good to clean junk files or temp files but for the memory part, plz buy the Package Disabler Pro as this is the only one real works now on S6.
I believe Samsung got PC software to backup your data on Windows.
If you do factory reset and no use then it's safe to guess your phone got hardware problem and you should ask for a replacement.
Question though, where did you buy the phone? Are you 100% sure its an authentic galaxy s6? I came across a similar thing but its with the iPhone, a friend of mine was complaining about having drop calls with his iphone 6, I decided to play around with his iPhone 6 and was wondering why it was hella slow and lags a lot, I use iOS a lot(iPad, iPod Touch, and previous iPhones) and i know it should't lag especially a new version of the iphone, and also noticed somethings are off like the apple logo, screen resoluton, etc. After 2 min, I realized its a fake iPhone6 than runs an iOS skinned android, I was actually amazed how well it was made for a clone. If factory reset didn't help, then it's probably hardware defective or its fake.
Depending how long you've had it can you take it into the shop you got it from, show them the problems and get a replacement?
Mine is pretty much super quick, although I do use Nova Launcher Prime as my launcher, and Tesla Unread to show unread notifications for apps, and it is much quicker than the Samsung Launcher and a lot more customisable.
Also I have noticed some themes can slow the phone down immensely so unless you really want to customise the phone leave it on the default theme. (Nova Launcher Icons and different wallpapers don't slow anything down).
Also the Smart Manager on the phone, helps to keep the recent apps menu working nice and quick as it can slow down to the point that pressing it takes .5 of a second for the recent apps to show up.
Lastly, the S6 is notorious for faulty home buttons, so weird home button behaviour could be a slightly faulty button.
sol_671 said:
Question though, where did you buy the phone? Are you 100% sure its an authentic galaxy s6? I came across a similar thing but its with the iPhone, a friend of mine was complaining about having drop calls with his iphone 6, I decided to play around with his iPhone 6 and was wondering why it was hella slow and lags a lot, I use iOS a lot(iPad, iPod Touch, and previous iPhones) and i know it should't lag especially a new version of the iphone, and also noticed somethings are off like the apple logo, screen resoluton, etc. After 2 min, I realized its a fake iPhone6 than runs an iOS skinned android, I was actually amazed how well it was made for a clone. If factory reset didn't help, then it's probably hardware defective or its fake.
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I second that. You can use the following ways to confirm by downloading Antutu Officer from Google Play.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/How-to-tell-if-your-Android-device-is-a-fake-or-a-clone_id68473
http://visihow.com/Identify_a_Genuine/Original_Versus_a_Fake/Cloned_Samsung_Galaxy_Phone
Thanks everyone, it should be authentic I bought it from Rogers directly, not a dealer store but actual corporate one and we bought 2 at the same time. I did a factory reset last night and it's WAY faster now. I didn't put Clean Master on it yet just been using it as is but been great so far. I didn't put all my apps back on, just the ones I use, where as last time I'd just put on everything even if I seldom use it, so will try to add them slowly. CM was always saying before that Amazon was giving my phone a fever, restarting 50 times in the past 15 minutes type thing, even though I use that app constantly. Thanks!
ryuvann said:
Hi everyone,
I've always used iPhone but we switched to the Galaxy S6 a few weeks ago as I wanted to try android. The phone is fine but man it gets SO slow to the point I can barely use it. I'll be just doing normal things on it, or it will be sitting unused for awhile and I'll press the app switcher button and nothing happens. Wait 3 seconds and then it appears. Pick an app same thing nothing happens, then it appears. Or you swipe and it's laggy and slow. A friend said use clean master which when I run it always says freed 600MB of memory and then the problem seems to go away for another hour or so, but I'm constantly having to do this. My iPhone's were never slow at all and you never had to close programs. Not sure if I'm doing something wrong, but it's driving me crazy to the point I might return it.
The other issue is lots of times when I swipe to unlock, the phone unlocks but then will be running Spotify or Amazon, neither of which are on my homescreen or were running before. Clean master always says Amazon keeps restarting over and over giving my device a fever, but not sure what I can do about that.
Is there anything I should be doing or could do differently? I'm on the Samsung launcher, was on Google's for awhile but prefer Samsung's since it shows notification count, and I have the Google keyboard as well. It's not all the time, and it's not always debilitating like where it's full on frozen, it's more it just feels really slow. I had the Nexus 5 last year for maybe 2 months before switching back to iPhone but I never had this issue with it. I feel like the S6 is even slower than the Nexus 5 was to the point I'd almost rather use that phone, but I feel like this is ridiculous since I paid $250 for the Nexus 5 and the S6 was $750 so you'd expect it would run better!
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There is something wrong with your software. I have been using my phone for about a month. No issues here.
Yep there is something wrong with your device. I always try to do speed test whenever I gets a chance to have my friend's i6 on my hand. With 250+ apps and 3gigs out of 32 free I can say that s6 opens apps a second faster than i6. There's some scroll lag on chrome but I fixed it with tweaking flags on chrome.If any app lags on this on this device then it's the result of poor coding.
Try to swap your device
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openmatrix said:
Yep there is something wrong with your device. I always try to do speed test whenever I gets a chance to have my friend's i6 on my hand. With 250+ apps and 3gigs out of 32 free I can say that s6 opens apps a second faster than i6. There's some scroll lag on chrome but I fixed it with tweaking flags on chrome.If any app lags on this on this device then it's the result of poor coding.
Try to swap your device
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+info? :good:
How is the phone so far?
Received mine this morning, and immediately set the customizing my Moto X pure.
The first thing I noticed, is an ease of function, and a streamlined path to every app, and back with an eye on multiple functions, and speed.
I don't use anything stock for sounds, icons, or wallpaper, and installing all three of these, took me less than 5 min.
my only concern, is that the device appears to be running a little bit hot in my hand this could be due to the fact that I'm transferring data using the USB cable, while I use the phone, I don't know.
The phone is exceedingly fast and while it may be called a Phablet by some, and has a very large screen, and in the hand it truly does not feel much larger than my old Samsung galaxy S3. I'd say all in all, this may be the best phone I've ever had, especially for the price, and was well worth the wait.
I am now delving into some of the Moto world voice commands and such, which is the only unexplored frontier in android for me.
Very happy with this device.
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papamalo said:
Received mine this morning, and immediately set the customizing my Moto X pure.
The first thing I noticed, is an ease of function, and a streamlined path to every app, and back with an eye on multiple functions, and speed.
I don't use anything stock for sounds, icons, or wallpaper, and installing all three of these, took me less than 5 min.
my only concern, is that the device appears to be running a little bit hot in my hand this could be due to the fact that I'm transferring data using the USB cable, while I use the phone, I don't know.
The phone is exceedingly fast and while it may be called a Phablet by some, and has a very large screen, and in the hand it truly does not feel much larger than my old Samsung galaxy S3. I'd say all in all, this may be the best phone I've ever had, especially for the price, and was well worth the wait.
I am now delving into some of the Moto world voice commands and such, which is the only unexplored frontier in android for me.
Very happy with this device.
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I wouldn't worry about the heat...I'm pretty sure about everyone on here thought it was warm the first day. Setting it up, updating apps and transferring data will do that to any phone. The battery will settle in and you'll be good to go.
brholt6 said:
I wouldn't worry about the heat...I'm pretty sure about everyone on here thought it was warm the first day. Setting it up, updating apps and transferring data will do that to any phone. The battery will settle in and you'll be good to go.
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that's good news!
Hey you wouldn't happen to be using nova launcher by any chance, would you?
I can't seem to make the three dots, of the dock icon, either this appear or go transparent.
Any ideas?
Thanks again
papamalo said:
that's good news!
Hey you wouldn't happen to be using nova launcher by any chance, would you?
I can't seem to make the three dots, of the dock icon, either this appear or go transparent.
Any ideas?
Thanks again
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I've used it when I first set up the phone but I didn't mess around with that setting so I'm not much help there.
brholt6 said:
I've used it when I first set up the phone but I didn't mess around with that setting so I'm not much help there.
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Do you mean the "Page Indicator" or the "Dock Indicator"? One let's you know which "homescreen" you are on, and the other lets you know which "dock page" you are on.
Senshi34 said:
Do you mean the "Page Indicator" or the "Dock Indicator"? One let's you know which "homescreen" you are on, and the other lets you know which "dock page" you are on.
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Quoted the wrong guy...ask @papamalo
I've felt the same way about my new MotoX. I had a Galaxy S4, transition was smooth and fast
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brholt6 said:
I wouldn't worry about the heat...I'm pretty sure about everyone on here thought it was warm the first day. Setting it up, updating apps and transferring data will do that to any phone. The battery will settle in and you'll be good to go.
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This device runs hot and not a case of settling down For whatever reason the 418 gpu runs hot and drains the battery with any app that tries to draw 1440p and math is involved. If the app scales graphics down, it runs normal. Examples of apps that can run the device hot are VR, Maps and a game example is Payback 2. VR apps in particular bake this device and should be avoided beyond a few minutes use.
The GPU needs to be better managed in the governor settings in firmware.