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So I had a chat with someone from Samsung, Tried to gather up all the problems everyone is having with unresponsiveness and the overall firmware being laggy. This Asshole pushes me forward into just telling me that theres issues with my phone.
Chat Information Please wait for a Samsung Agent to respond.
Chat Information You are now chatting with 'Phillips'. There will be a brief survey at the end of our chat to share feedback on my performance today.
Chat Information Your Issue ID for this chat is LTK5640680671X
Phillips: Hi, thank you for contacting Samsung Technical Support. How may I help you today?
Visitor: hello
Phillips: Hello, please go ahead with your inquiry.
Visitor: I was able to obtain the Gingerbread update for my Samsung Infuse 4G and Updated the firmware February 1st when it first came out and I'm noticing things like my touchscreen being unresponsive and the overall software being laggy. I heard they pulled the Update for fixing, but those of us who already updated will there be a fix for those who already updated?
Phillips: I am sorry to know that, I will be more than glad to assist you.
Phillips: I understand that you are experiencing issues with the Infuse phone after you have updated the phone software to Gingerbread. Is that correct?
Visitor: After doing the Update on February 1st I proceeded on deleting all cache and data and doing the Factory Reset thinking it would help perform better after the update, this is my 2nd week running the software and I'm just overall unhappy with it.
Phillips: I apologize for the inconvenience.
Phillips: Thank you for confirming.
Phillips: Just to know, did the issue start after installing any specific application on the phone?
Visitor: Nope! I noticed it right after the update with no apps installed on the phone, If the phone is lying flat on a surface it normally won't swipe when I run my finger across the screen, it just don't respond to my touch. it works a little better when the phone is held in a upright posistion.
Phillips: Okay.
Phillips: I see that you have tried with all possible troubleshooting steps and even restored the phone to factory settings to fix the issue with phone performance.
Visitor: Yes! Even done battery pulls.
Phillips: I suspect issue with phone itself and it requires a physical diagnosis to fix the issue with phone.
Visitor: I just got this phone 2 weeks ago, Brand new Refurb.
Phillips: As you are saying the phone is new, I suggest you contact place of purchase for assistance.
Phillips: However, you can contact our voice team for further assistance.
Phillips: You can contact our voice support at 1-888-987-4357, Mon-Fri: 7 AM - 9 PM (CST), Sat: 9 AM - 6 PM (CST).
Visitor: I just wanna know if those who already updated with the bad Update, will they receieve a Patch fix to fix the buggy problems with the OS firmware.
Phillips: As you have tried with possible troubleshooting steps, I have provided you with the contact details to reach our voice team for sending in the phone for service.
Phillips: No, many of our customers are using the phone without any issues even after updating the phone software to Gingerbread.
Phillips: Please do not worry, I suspect issue with the phone itself. Once you contact our voice team they will be glad to assist you further with the issue.
Bottom Line is.........The only issue there fixing with it is those who couldn't update it in the first place which was something contained in the Official Update that blocked Kies Mini from Updating your phone. What we have is what we have folks, a piece of **** bugged firmware. Case Closed!
Final Words: Phillips: No, many of our customers are using the phone without any issues even after updating the phone software to Gingerbread.
dang,from now on i will be buying unbloated,unlocked international phones.glad i didnt update!! but i guess you can still get back to froyo? after the gingerdeath downgrade..
all this is supposedly what is holding up source code release too. already harrased the osrc till I got a human responce and they claim the holdup has to do with putting tthe update on hold. this is horse **** being that the sorces are supposed to be released simultaneously. the Rogers release was actually before the phone hit the shelves in Canada.
well as I've said many time...my Infuse 4g runs excellent on Stock GB.
I use an alternative launcher so maybe that's it.
I agree... the update was ****, worse gb update of all the galaxy phones... Samsung coulda kept that one to theirselves.... the leak was better with some tweaking
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Dani897 said:
all this is supposedly what is holding up source code release too. already harrased the osrc till I got a human responce and they claim the holdup has to do with putting tthe update on hold. this is horse **** being that the sorces are supposed to be released simultaneously. the Rogers release was actually before the phone hit the shelves in Canada.
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How and who do you contact to get the source code released? I would be more than happy to help harass whoever to get this released. If you point me in the right direction on this i would be glad to help.
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right next to the froyo source code there is an email link, it says if you don't have a responce in 24 hours to try again so I was sending daily emails. but the official standing now is that they will wait till it gets re-released.
Ok, good to know. Thanks
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the op still has a hard on about screen troubles lol never seen this and i do think he is the only one i see complaining about it lol
i think he has baked himself to much
CheesyNutz said:
the op still has a hard on about screen troubles lol never seen this and i do think he is the only one i see complaining about it lol
i think he has baked himself to much
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Haha! Was at work sorry. I was just going thru some threads and just asked in general if there would be any fixes to the official, the answer. Is No! There fixing nothing with the official besides getting it unblocked so others can have the update which is well not worth it after hearing this.
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dman3285 said:
I agree... the update was ****, worse gb update of all the galaxy phones... Samsung coulda kept that one to theirselves.... the leak was better with some tweaking
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Very well agreed, as far as your Zeus rom their is really nothing more that can be done to improve the performance, It's a done deal.
Sent from my Official Gingerbreaded Samsung Infuse.
The day the update came out I asked them about source. I JUST got a reply back. Here it is:
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[SAMSUNG OSRC COMMENTS DELIVERY NOTIFICATION]
♦ classification : Mobile Phone ♦
♦ model name : SGH-I997 ♦
Dear Customer,
Thank you for your continuous interest in our product.
Support of updated firmware(I997) is stoppped now.
We will publish source code when supporting firmware recommence.
Please accept our apology for not being able to handle your request up to your satisfaction.
Thank you!
Sincerely yours,
You may find the source code
Select URL below to evaluate satisfaction for our reply.
https://opensource.samsung.com/satisfaction/mail_satisfaction.do?mailId=C89311F34383ED66704D76E0C21D829958468DD5
It's like the people from chat are replying to this too. Haha.
I wonder if we can figure out why the UCKL2 update causes problems on some Infuse phones but not others. I installed UCKL2 (via Odin, after the official download was pulled) and it's been working great. No screen-responsiveness problems, whether the phone is upright or horizontal. (And I've finally got Skype videochat using the front camera.)
Have you tried the *#0*# test of the touchscreen? Does it pass?
Axiomkid said:
Very well agreed, as far as your Zeus rom their is really nothing more that can be done to improve the performance, It's a done deal.
Sent from my Official Gingerbreaded Samsung Infuse.
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There are some good roms by good devs for the infuse. We are lucky we have that. I would be extremely pissed if i had just bought the phone and left it completely stock because of Samsungs ****ty software for it. They could of done a lot more with this phone than what they have.
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tmease1 said:
There are some good roms by good devs for the infuse. We are lucky we have that. I would be extremely pissed if i had just bought the phone and left it completely stock because of Samsungs ****ty software for it. They could of done a lot more with this phone than what they have.
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They chose not to and your absolutely right. They knew gingerbread was over past due for the Infuse, they spent less time figuring ways for us to run ICS, but wasted a lot of time updating us to old firmware that they already knew was buggy as hell and there's a ****load of extras gone and vanished. No root option, and etc. They totally ****ed the phone up. It's being sold for so cheap due to its ****ty features and no rooting options. Samsung you Fail! What you gonna do next cripple the firmware on the Skyrocket so ppl can't root?
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Axiomkid said:
They chose not to and your absolutely right. They knew gingerbread was over past due for the Infuse, they spent less time figuring ways for us to run ICS, but wasted a lot of time updating us to old firmware that they already knew was buggy as hell and there's a ****load of extras gone and vanished. No root option, and etc. They totally ****ed the phone up. It's being sold for so cheap due to its ****ty features and no rooting options. Samsung you Fail! What you gonna do next cripple the firmware on the Skyrocket so ppl can't root?
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Which is why I'll never have a non-Google Android phone. I've put my Infuse away... for good I think. I'll stick with my Nexus S now. Stock GB and AOSP ICS is faster and smoother than any ROM on my Infuse.
Just to let people know its not an isolated problem let me say I too have had response and lag issues since the update.
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That would be negative on it being final.... lo and behold UCKB1....
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dman3285 said:
That would be negative on it being final.... lo and behold UCKB1....
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Haha totally called L2 not being the official official
Anyone know anything about this?
https://glbenchmark.com/phonedetail...SCH-I535+(Verizon+Galaxy+S3)&testgroup=system
Could this be the Dev Edition firmware?
Update 1: I sent a source code request to Samsung. They take these requests seriously, so I expect an honest answer about what this firmware is.
Update 2: Samsung acknowleges the existence of the firmware and is curious how I know about it
There are reports of refurbs having it
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Where did you learn that? I've been seeing VRALG1 for replacements.
One of the guys in the IRC channel got 3 LG1 units that way.
htc_jewel is part of the google wallet workaround so it's likely this device is in the wild and in the hands of a modder...
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htc_jewel is part of the google wallet workaround so it's likely this device is in the wild and in the hands of a modder...
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was just about to say this, till i seen your post
The benchmark site is an aggregate of all Verizon S3s that have been benchmarked.
I thought the same thing about the htc_jewel thing until I realized that.
Someone posted that is the firmware he got from a US Cellular version of the GS3, that backbones on the Verizon network.
I just received a phone yesterday (07/24) and it had LG1 firmware.
henrys01 said:
I just received a phone yesterday (07/24) and it had LG1 firmware.
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They both end in LG1...
pray59 said:
Someone posted that is the firmware he got from a US Cellular version of the GS3, that backbones on the Verizon network.
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US Cellular firmware is R530UVXALF9.
Can someone with the ability to unbrick flash it and see what happens? Maybe it's what we've been waiting for.
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Can someone with the ability to unbrick flash it and see what happens? Maybe it's what we've been waiting for.
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I think the problem is no one has it, and can't seem to get a copy of it.
Well I tried twice today to get someone to slip up and let me get the file. They are very helpful until asking for that firmware, then they don't know anything. Seems like they want to act like it doesn't even exist.
Where do I find the firmware version? Build number reads vralf2.
We don't have it, but we are looking for it.
It almost looks like it is probably a first beta build that was out before the phone was released for testers.
Chances are if that is the case, you probably don't want it as everything about it probably sucks. Only way you would get it, too, would probably be if someone still had that firmware and/or when they did, did a dump of all the partitions.
Could be wrong, but that is my vote.
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If it was beta, I'd expect a VRALD label or earlier like the pre-release VRALEC firmware.
This is an LG1 firmware.
Finally heard back from Samsung. I've sent them requests in the past for my other devices, but I've never heard a response like this...
[SAMSUNG OSRC COMMENTS DELIVERY NOTIFICATION]
♦ classification : Mobile Phone ♦
♦ model name : SCH-I535_NA ♦
Dear Customer,
The version of I535OYALG1 and I535VRALEC is not released to market.
How do you know these version?
Please let us know about that.
Thank you!
Sincerely yours,
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Mine is I535VRALF2
I just got it last Saturday.
LLStarks said:
Finally heard back from Samsung. I've sent them requests in the past for my other devices, but I've never heard a response like this...
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Maybe those are top government firmwares
VERIZON GALAXY S 3
None of this sounds too exciting.... Never had the no sim error personally.
www.ubergizmo.com/2012/09/verizon-samsung-galaxy-s3-software-update-fixes-no-sim-error/
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Ryno77 said:
None of this sounds too exciting.... Never had the no sim error personally.
www.ubergizmo.com/2012/09/verizon-samsung-galaxy-s3-software-update-fixes-no-sim-error/
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well that's underwhelming for people who like to use the stock firmware, wonder if verizon will get jellybean out for the s3 this year...was at my local vzw store yesterday and the sales guy was surprised to see a touchwiz-less S3 running jellybean. then i got an earful about voiding warranty when all i went there to do was get a sim for my wife's nexus. (my old phone, just replaced it with the S3 this week)
Happy to see that error being killed. A couple of areas around Rochester are basically s3 dead zones thanks to that. Not quite as exciting as jb but... enough to make me happy.
galaxy. s3. synergy. yadda yadda.
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well that's underwhelming for people who like to use the stock firmware, wonder if verizon will get jellybean out for the s3 this year...was at my local vzw store yesterday and the sales guy was surprised to see a touchwiz-less S3 running jellybean. then i got an earful about voiding warranty when all i went there to do was get a sim for my wife's nexus. (my old phone, just replaced it with the S3 this week)
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The JB upgrade will most likely come in late 1st Q.
No new radios? Nothing updated that needs to be?
Typical verizon and this ****, didn't a UK Update come out in July that fixed some issues? Where the hell is that one...
I had a sim error once, when I went to install my SD card I realized the vzw rep didn't fully insert the sim card... never again since then.
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Elite49 said:
No new radios? Nothing updated that needs to be?
Typical verizon and this ****, didn't a UK Update come out in July that fixed some issues? Where the hell is that one...
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This is a Verizon only issue that NEEDS to be fixed. It is bull that Verizon wasted time locking down the bootloader that they screwed up their device... but to people who live in one of the "dead zones" the phone is all but useless as anything except a music player. Just because it's not an issue you have suffered doesn't mean it's not a necessary and needed fix.
galaxy. s3. synergy. yadda yadda.
Elite49 said:
No new radios? Nothing updated that needs to be?
Typical verizon and this ****, didn't a UK Update come out in July that fixed some issues? Where the hell is that one...
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Typically, Verizon updates follow general releases to the international and other carriers by 6 months.
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Typically, Verizon updates follow general releases to the international and other carriers by 6 months.
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The NO SIM error is ridiculous, and I am glad this will fix it. For those who don't know, some people can hardly use their S3 at times. I've had instances where every time I try to send a text for 20-30 minutes, it says sending, I lose all connections (no network at all) for a minute or two, then it reconnects, rinse, repeat. This happens when trying to send texts AND making a phone call. Imagine if you had an emergency and every time you tried to call your network dropped for 2 minutes.
But I don't know what else this will do to the phone. Disable current root methods? Bootloader issues?
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But I don't know what else this will do to the phone. Disable current root methods? Bootloader issues?
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Yes, many of us have the same issues, even in great 4G areas like DC. No new sim card or handset replacement would ever fix it. Took long enough for VZW to release this fix.
As usual if you are rooted/unlocked/running a ROM do NOT download the OTA update. Wait less than 24 hours for someone on the forums to debloat and flash manually. Obviously if you are stock, rooted, and locked go ahead and take the update VZW pushes out.
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Yes, many of us have the same issues, even in great 4G areas like DC. No new sim card or handset replacement would ever fix it. Took long enough for VZW to release this fix.
As usual if you are rooted/unlocked/running a ROM do NOT download the OTA update. Wait less than 24 hours for someone on the forums to debloat and flash manually. Obviously if you are stock, rooted, and locked go ahead and take the update VZW pushes out.
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Yep, planning on it. I'll wait a little longer to be safe. But I would love to be able to use my phone where I have full bars on campus.
Anybody else surprised there was no leak for this build? Or any other build for that matter? Especially having it go live within the week. I don't know maybe seeing so many leaks on previous devices over the years has left me spoiled. Regardless I am looking forward to some new radios.
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ajd88 said:
Anybody else surprised there was no leak for this build? Or any other build for that matter? Especially having it go live within the week. I don't know maybe seeing so many leaks on previous devices over the years has left me spoiled. Regardless I am looking forward to some new radios.
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It is possible it won't include new radios.
I'm not familiar with how these updates work on a Samsung phone.....I had a droid x2 and when that phone received and OTA update it would prompt you to download and install the update. I am assuming this will work the same way? I'm stock unrooted but don't want to get stuck that way....I'll let a few people here download and install and say it's safe before installing
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I'm not familiar with how these updates work on a Samsung phone.....I had a droid x2 and when that phone received and OTA update it would prompt you to download and install the update. I am assuming this will work the same way? I'm stock unrooted but don't want to get stuck that way....I'll let a few people here download and install and say it's safe before installing
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Don't forget it could install without you actively accepting it. Recent Verizon phones have been known to do this.
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SlimSnoopOS said:
Don't forget it could install without you actively accepting it. Recent Verizon phones have been known to do this.
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Don't forget it could install without you actively accepting it. Recent Verizon phones have been known to do this.
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That's not good. I really have no desire to root the phone at this point but this may push me in that direction. I'm surprised that's legal.... When updating you typically lose all service briefly, which I would think is a choice up to the user. I would be pissed as hell if this thing updated without me ok'ing it.
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con247 said:
It is possible it won't include new radios.
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there is a new radio VRLG7
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phone search still nerfed, doubt that ones coming back in the USA.
I had this no sim error only in a few places around my home area... but one of those areas included my house. Two new sim cards and two new S3s later, I am extremely happy to hear about this fix! Oddly enough, I never got a no sim error here on a 2 week business trip to Utah.
Had to manually load the update tho, now all is well! Thx for the tip!
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Hrmph. I buy and sell a lot using the ebay app. The update killed the app.
Just got the update pushed to my phone. Deferred until we find out if the new version is rootable/unlockable.
Where can I find the radios/modem for Verizon Galaxy S 3?
My buddy is having problems with his cell signal, his 4g is working fine, I need to find where I can reflash his radios. Through search I couldnt find them. Is there anyone who knows where they are? or if they go by a different name?
Znomon said:
Where can I find the radios/modem for Verizon Galaxy S 3?
My buddy is having problems with his cell signal, his 4g is working fine, I need to find where I can reflash his radios. Through search I couldnt find them. Is there anyone who knows where they are? or if they go by a different name?
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You can find them over at rootzwiki and then look at the Verizon GS3 development section in the forums.
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Znomon said:
Where can I find the radios/modem for Verizon Galaxy S 3?
My buddy is having problems with his cell signal, his 4g is working fine, I need to find where I can reflash his radios. Through search I couldnt find them. Is there anyone who knows where they are? or if they go by a different name?
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http://rootzwiki.com/topic/34053-firmware-vrbmf1-modemrpmtzsbl-verizon-sgs3-sch-i535/
thanks a lot guys. unfortunately his phone still wont make phone calls =( it seems to he a hardware issue and verizon wont replace it
That's weird is it still under the one year warranty with samsung
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thanks a lot guys. unfortunately his phone still wont make phone calls =( it seems to he a hardware issue and verizon wont replace it
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If it is indeed within one year and you are sure its a hardware failure then keep trying. Call back until you find someone willing to replace it. If that doesnt work call Samsung.
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If it is indeed within one year and you are sure its a hardware failure then keep trying. Call back until you find someone willing to replace it. If that doesnt work call Samsung.
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That's weird is it still under the one year warranty with samsung
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Unfortunately for him the screen is cracked and according to a verizon rep
"the fall that cracked the screen could have caused the malfunction and we cant replace the device"
Hi all,
My daughter's Infuse 4g was having issues (wouldn't turn on, and if it did, wouldn't stay on) while she was at college. She took it to the AT&T store and they told her she needed a new phone. We purchased one, but when she got her Infuse 4g home, I was able to get it working again.
Anyway, now I have an Infuse. We have four kids so from time to time we need a 'backup' phone. This would make a good backup phone. It is completely stock and unrooted.
I'm debating on trying to get CM11 on it. I see there is an unofficial release. However, I know nothing about the history of the Infuse, how easy it is to brick, how easy it is to unbrick etc.
So, should I just leave this phone "as is" or work to get CM 11 on it? I'm currently reading through some of the forum threads, but if there are issues putting roms on this phone, it would be nice to know before I put a lot of time in on it.
Any opinions?
Thanks!!!
It's almost impossible to hard brick
99 percent of time you can recover It through Odin. Just follow the steps and you will be fine
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eZdubzitmk4 said:
It's almost impossible to hard brick
99 percent of time you can recover It through Odin. Just follow the steps and you will be fine
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Thanks! Guess I'll have to pick up a micro to mini sim adapter...my Nexus 4 uses the smaller sims. Thanks again!
dmullens said:
Thanks! Guess I'll have to pick up a micro to mini sim adapter...my Nexus 4 uses the smaller sims. Thanks again!
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Nah I used a mini. Just have to get it in right position for it to read
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Nah I used a mini. Just have to get it in right position for it to read
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Is there any chance that getting the positioning wrong could hose the sim card? I've used this method before in a different phone, but I was always concerned that if it shifted it could mess up the SIM.
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Is there any chance that getting the positioning wrong could hose the sim card? I've used this method before in a different phone, but I was always concerned that if it shifted it could mess up the SIM.
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I never had problems for 2 years
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dmullens said:
Hi all,
My daughter's Infuse 4g was having issues (wouldn't turn on, and if it did, wouldn't stay on) while she was at college. She took it to the AT&T store and they told her she needed a new phone. We purchased one, but when she got her Infuse 4g home, I was able to get it working again.
Anyway, now I have an Infuse. We have four kids so from time to time we need a 'backup' phone. This would make a good backup phone. It is completely stock and unrooted.
I'm debating on trying to get CM11 on it. I see there is an unofficial release. However, I know nothing about the history of the Infuse, how easy it is to brick, how easy it is to unbrick etc.
So, should I just leave this phone "as is" or work to get CM 11 on it? I'm currently reading through some of the forum threads, but if there are issues putting roms on this phone, it would be nice to know before I put a lot of time in on it.
Any opinions?
Thanks!!!
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It's actually easy to "brick" the Infuse, all you do is break the USB charging port, I have a lot of experience with Galaxy S devices and they all have poor USB port durability especially when it come to water damage, so that's one thing to watch out.
Personally, I recommend using CM9 on the Infuse. CM11 roms to me are still buggy and the performance isn't very good. Beanstalk rom does a pretty good job, but for now there are still slow down issues and poor Webkit performance. So far I get very good stability and performance with CM9.
Here is a guide I wrote on root, flash and restore the Infuse, it's pretty easy: http://forums.androidcentral.com/t-...m-recovery-kitkat-factory-restore-infuse.html
You can sim unlock this device too which is easy also: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1081072