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[Q] Why are Location services running when Locations are turned Off?

One or two location services are always running in the background even when Locations are completely off, after multiple reboots. Any reason why?
On a simmilar note: does "com.qualcomm.qcrilmsgtunnel" need to always be running? It seems to be related to the phone dialer but there isn't much info.

bblzd said:
One or two location services are always running in the background even when Locations are completely off, after multiple reboots. Any reason why?
On a simmilar note: does "com.qualcomm.qcrilmsgtunnel" need to always be running? It seems to be related to the phone dialer but there isn't much info.
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Did you find out yet? Wondering the same thing.

I've always wondered this. If you enable show hidden sync in greenify you will see location sync. It auto turns it self back on after reboots and randomly if you manually turn it off and wait too.

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shivraj67 said:
Did you find out yet? Wondering the same thing.
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frigidazzi said:
I've always wondered this. If you enable show hidden sync in greenify you will see location sync. It auto turns it self back on after reboots and randomly if you manually turn it off and wait too.
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Never did figure out why they need to be actively running in memory when they aren't being used. In fact, over time more Google services have appeared there as permanent residents including a 4th Location based service called GoogleLocationService.
You can force stop them but they will return so it's best to just let them be, or experiment with the Disable Service app. Without the corresponding setting enabled they don't seem to bring a significant battery drain but it is still worrying why these services need to be in memory and using any CPU time at all if their functionality has been disabled.
As for com.qualcomm.qcrilmsgtunnel, that seems to be a necessary process relating to phone/dialing functionality.

If I lose my phone then I want it back!

Can anyone give recommendations for anti-theft software, specifically one that will take photos of the thief, give location, and also survive a phone factory reset? I also want some advice on perhaps activating features of the anti-theft software using Tasker, on a timer of sorts if the phone spends >12hrs away from my home wifi network.
Anyone want to tell me about their set-up, positive or negative points about the software that they have used/do use?

setspeed said:
Can anyone give recommendations for anti-theft software, specifically one that will take photos of the thief, give location, and also survive a phone factory reset? I also want some advice on perhaps activating features of the anti-theft software using Tasker, on a timer of sorts if the phone spends >12hrs away from my home wifi network.
Anyone want to tell me about their set-up, positive or negative points about the software that they have used/do use?
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You could try Cerburus from Play, but if the thief flashes a stock image and erases userdata then no software is installed anymore and the anti-theft software is no longer active. Google has android device manager now where you can track, disable and wipe your phone/tablet. Its in the settings of the Play Store on your PC.

Cerberus is the best bet.
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+1 for Cerberus! Well established!!

i think if you loose your phone or gets stolen, you should know fairly quickly
at that point you should get yourself to a web browser ASAP and get to Android Device manager and lock your device.
a "smart" thief will likely get ur phone wiped ASAP and at that point it wont matter what software you have...your SOL
a "dumb" thief will go home and mess with it to see what you got (which will then give you the time you need to lock it and locate it)

A friend of mine used Android Device Manager to track his Note 3 down to 11m accuracy, and he did eventually get his phone back by knocking on doors. However when I've tested ADM I've found that it won't work at all unless Location Mode is set to 'High accuracy' - which on my N5 absolutely destroys my battery within 12hrs. If I'm going to have that turned on, then I want pics of the thief as well as a limited time window before the phone dies. Ideally, I'd like some control over when the phone switches into Location 'High accuracy' - such as being away from home too long (or when I finally receive my NFC Ring, a condition of 'no communication with the ring for 2hrs' perhaps).
I'm kind of resigned to the fact that if the thief has the knowledge to flash a stock image then I'm never getting the phone back. I think that's pretty unlikely in the case of most thieves, so is there any software that can survive the basic 'Factory data reset'? Device Manager wouldn't work if the phone is reset I don't think, because my Google account would no longer be associated with the phone. I'd prefer some solution which is tied to the hardware (IMEI?) somehow.

use Cerberus then. it has all the functions you want.

Yup, about anything you try to use will take a chunk of battery life.
Personally, I don't use anything. If I leave it around and it walks away , so be it. Live and learn. Lol. I know the swat team isn't going to surround a location that these apps say my phone is at...and knocking on doors asking people if they took my phone would more than likely result in a lot of no's.....or much worse.
I wouldn't sacrifice my awesome battery life for a very slight chance of recovering my phone....especially since its quite easy for a thief to just turn it off...and wipe it at his leisure. If he knows anything about phones.
But, to each their own. It is built in as others have said....and there's many other apps too. I'd Google "best blah blah blah" to see reviews of the good ones.
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Cerberus
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kj2112 said:
Yup, about anything you try to use will take a chunk of battery life.
Personally, I don't use anything. If I leave it around and it walks away , so be it. Live and learn. Lol. I know the swat team isn't going to surround a location that these apps say my phone is at...and knocking on doors asking people if they took my phone would more than likely result in a lot of no's.....or much worse.
I wouldn't sacrifice my awesome battery life for a very slight chance of recovering my phone....especially since its quite easy for a thief to just turn it off...and wipe it at his leisure.
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Luckily I know someone who works for the local police and he certainly would take a couple of colleagues to an address if I asked him to
Also, I hope to mitigate the battery impact by only enabling location features in conjunction with Tasker and NFC Ring, so day to day my battery life isn't going to take a hit.
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setspeed said:
A friend of mine used Android Device Manager to track his Note 3 down to 11m accuracy, and he did eventually get his phone back by knocking on doors. However when I've tested ADM I've found that it won't work at all unless Location Mode is set to 'High accuracy' - which on my N5 absolutely destroys my battery within 12hrs. If I'm going to have that turned on, then I want pics of the thief as well as a limited time window before the phone dies. Ideally, I'd like some control over when the phone switches into Location 'High accuracy' - such as being away from home too long (or when I finally receive my NFC Ring, a condition of 'no communication with the ring for 2hrs' perhaps).
I'm kind of resigned to the fact that if the thief has the knowledge to flash a stock image then I'm never getting the phone back. I think that's pretty unlikely in the case of most thieves, so is there any software that can survive the basic 'Factory data reset'? Device Manager wouldn't work if the phone is reset I don't think, because my Google account would no longer be associated with the phone. I'd prefer some solution which is tied to the hardware (IMEI?) somehow.
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install tasker... set a task upon receiving a key word text to change the settings... u can send a text to the phone when u loose it, enable high accuracy and use device manager to find it
i have it on high accuracy all the time and i got to say, that it doesnt impact my battery when on idle... only ingress is the only batt hog

Your Tasker plan won't work. Airplane mode or simply turning the phone off is all that's needed. Even Cerberus has very little chance at recovering your phone and it sounds like the best option available.
Most would be thieves have heard of stolen devices taking their picture by now.
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setspeed said:
Can anyone give recommendations for anti-theft software, specifically one that will take photos of the thief, give location, and also survive a phone factory reset? I also want some advice on perhaps activating features of the anti-theft software using Tasker, on a timer of sorts if the phone spends >12hrs away from my home wifi network.
Anyone want to tell me about their set-up, positive or negative points about the software that they have used/do use?
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I am using the paid version of Cerberus , Its fine, it doesn't take up much of battery. You can try the AndroidLost App as well. Yes but hopefully all this would work if the thief don't have the technical means or knowledge of flashing a device.:good:

There are apps which prevent your phone from powering off when on the lock screen. They are xposed modules, xgels is one of them. Use that with a pin code, combined with Cerberus and that should give you the time to track your phone if stolen before the thief can flash it. And as for battery my phone is always on high accuracy, and my battery life is amazing. I run stock Rom and kernel, rooted with xposed and lux.

bblzd said:
Your Tasker plan won't work. Airplane mode or simply turning the phone off is all that's needed.
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in which case no plan will work.

cnstarz said:
in which case no plan will work.
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Cerberus can send commands to your phone in those cases. Still might not help much
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bblzd said:
Cerberus can send commands to your phone in those cases. Still might not help much
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cerberus can't send commands to your phone if your phone is in airplane mode or turned off...

Lokke9191 said:
There are apps which prevent your phone from powering off when on the lock screen. They are xposed modules, xgels is one of them. Use that with a pin code, combined with Cerberus and that should give you the time to track your phone if stolen before the thief can flash it. And as for battery my phone is always on high accuracy, and my battery life is amazing. I run stock Rom and kernel, rooted with xposed and lux.
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This sounds quite nice. I'm willing to stop using Nova and go back to Google Now launcher if I can get this working - but I've downloaded XGELS and cannot find the option to prevent phone being powered off? Could you (or anyone) point me to the exact setting?

setspeed said:
This sounds quite nice. I'm willing to stop using Nova and go back to Google Now launcher if I can get this working - but I've downloaded XGELS and cannot find the option to prevent phone being powered off? Could you (or anyone) point me to the exact setting?
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Good morning. Sorry about that it's not in xgels, my mistake. That feature is in the xposed module called advanced power menu.
I was a huge nova/apex user on my old devices, but I love the okay Google feature. I use xgels to hide the Google search bar on the home screen. So you can get that screen real estate back and still use okay Google. I hide the dock as well, it's great. Basically with the combination of xgels and gravity box, tinted status bar, and a couple other xposed modules you can have all the features of nova/apex and still use the okay Google feature. Which I find awesome.

Avast! anti-theft has an option to remain enabled after a hard reset or after flashing a CM rom.

What is GCOREFLP

I have a wake lock on a few separate apps that says GCOREFLP & alarm manager I want to know what they are so I can get rid of them thanks in advance for any help
Nexus 5 xposed + gravitybox

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was looking for the same thing...
...I googled "flp wiki" and found something called "fast link pulse" whatever that means. Reading on it now. Hope this helps.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonegotiation

Also seeing large amount of wakelocks from gcoreflp in Unbounce... it says safe to unbounce so i did....guess i'll see what happens

seems like the latest play services update doesnt rape my battery so much but also seems to mess up a little easier when I try to disable some of those pesky all-the-time running services that I don't want. all the "safe to unbounce" wakelocks dont seem to be really bugging me that much
Just the dang location polling I cant stand I killed everything location. sacrifices
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camry89 said:
it says safe to unbounce so i did....guess i'll see what happens
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And what happened?

simmac said:
And what happened?
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Haven't noticed any bad effects.... just great battery life

Still unanswered what this wakelock is

marknoll said:
Still unanswered what this wakelock is
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It seems to be connected to googles quick search bar that's as much as I know you could disable it and the monitor the wakelock

Em it's obviously Google play services (updates, play store, location, etc.) Which are the biggest battery rapists. You can find out by just tapping on it
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Fused location provider
Core service to get location. Without it google apps and maybe more apps that depend on it they won't get background location.
Background !!!

Exercise app turns off early

I'm having an intermittent issue (1 in 20 times) whereby the exercise app I use just turns off before I'm done. I've used the same app for years without issue, but notice its on Mate-9 or Android-7 as an issue? Any suggestions please? I've tried other apps and same has happened on this device so I'm thinking not an app issue.

I am having the same issue with some gaming apps
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OK, now its happened 3 times in a row. Anyone know a solution please?

palatkik said:
OK, now its happened 3 times in a row. Anyone know a solution please?
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It could happen when you're using old-api application and internal task-killer preferred to unload your app from memory.
Press square button to get recent apps and press icon with lock to hold app always in memory.

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It could happen when you're using old-api application and internal task-killer preferred to unload your app from memory.
Press square button to get recent apps and press icon with lock to hold app always in memory.
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Thanks for that idea. I tried it and so far so good. I will continue this method for next few weeks to see if it solves the problem 100%.

palatkik said:
Thanks for that idea. I tried it and so far so good. I will continue this method for next few weeks to see if it solves the problem 100%.
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It could happen when you're using old-api application and internal task-killer preferred to unload your app from memory.
Press square button to get recent apps and press icon with lock to hold app always in memory.
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No luck I'm afraid. I tried three times successfully using this method then the forth time it was back to the usual rubbish result of app stopping early during the exercise with the lock to hold app in lock position.
I'm open to other ideas please? As it stands the Mate-9 has proved useless to monitor fitness routines. I've written to Huawei support about it (in London UK) and they just say to wait for an o/s update in future!

I suggest you to give up on it. Huawei phones can't work correctly with sports tracking app for YEARS. Probably all their phones have same issues. Just google it and you will find other suckers like us.
Also, Mate 9 is completely inaccurate during the time it tracks (pre-crash). It must be related with different problem - GPS sucks too. Look for GPS thread in this forum to keep you updated.
Last version of Strava app shows in-app alert which says that their app can't work correctly with my device (Mate 9). It still allows me to use it. So, they gave up on us.
My suggestion is to get some old/backup phone and use it for tracking. E.g. I'm using my good old faithful Samsung Galaxy S4.

goranimo said:
I suggest you to give up on it. Huawei phones can't work correctly with sports tracking app for YEARS. Probably all their phones have same issues. Just google it and you will find other suckers like us.
Also, Mate 9 is completely inaccurate during the time it tracks (pre-crash). It must be related with different problem - GPS sucks too. Look for GPS thread in this forum to keep you updated.
Last version of Strava app shows in-app alert which says that their app can't work correctly with my device (Mate 9). It still allows me to use it. So, they gave up on us.
My suggestion is to get some old/backup phone and use it for tracking. E.g. I'm using my good old faithful Samsung Galaxy S4.
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This phone is looking worse and worse every day I wonder if it will support at least MiFit and Mi Band fitness tracker? Can't crash there, right?!

Anyone found a solution to this yet please? On my Mate-9 - now build B189 the problem seems to be that my exercise app using GPS stops working anytime after about 70 minutes of exercise (I cycle outdoors). If I interact with the app during exercise (such as pause - resume) every hour I can continue recording the exercise for full duration, otherwise after around 70 minutes my apps stop without notice. On other devices same apps work. Seems to be an issue with my Mate-9, anyone else notice this and or fix it?

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Anyone found a solution to this yet please? On my Mate-9 - now build B189
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Since Huawei updated me to Android 8 the problem no longer exists. Its taken a year to get to love this phone. I still cannot get myself to like the Mate-10 so will stay with this as I now for the first time since owning the Mate-9 have no issues at all with it.

palatkik said:
Since Huawei updated me to Android 8 the problem no longer exists. Its taken a year to get to love this phone. I still cannot get myself to like the Mate-10 so will stay with this as I now for the first time since owning the Mate-9 have no issues at all with it.
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Nope, problem is not fixed in Oreo. At least with Strava. It still crashes during longer pauses.

goranimo said:
Nope, problem is not fixed in Oreo. At least with Strava. It still crashes during longer pauses.
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I use a bike computer but was having issues with Strava live tracking, I think I have it resolved but not totally sure.
For some bizarre reason there are two places to exclude apps from power management:
Settings/Apps & notifications/Apps/Settings/Special access/Exempt from battery optimization/*Drop Down* All apps/*Allow/Don't Allow*
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Settings/Battery/Launch/*Toggle On/Off*
Mate 9: 567/360

Location Icon in Status Bar Always Displayed

At some point the location icon that is sometimes displayed in right side of the status bar came on, on my device, and never goes away.
I'm used to this coming on when an app is using location services and then turning off when I'm done with it. Rebooting my device makes no difference, it's still there. When I look under location in my settings, they only app that it says has recently made a location request is Google Play Services. But this should not be causing the icon to always display.
Any thoughts about what's going on or how else to troubleshoot this?
Thanks.

Same. Can't figure it out at all. Hopefully someone will shed some light on this.

Is your location set to device only?
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richyb86 said:
Is your location set to device only?
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Yes.

Yeah, changing the settings from device only to high accuracy makes the icon go away. But why should the location icon always be on when the phone is set it device only mode?

It is related to Google, the cards. I had the same thing on my XL 1. You do need fine enabled as you found out, or turn off the cards.

TonikJDK said:
It is related to Google, the cards. I had the same thing on my XL 1. You do need fine enabled as you found out, or turn off the cards.
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By cards do you mean the recently used apps list? When I clear that list the icon still remains.
And how do you turn off the cards?

cb474 said:
By cards do you mean the recently used apps list? When I clear that list the icon still remains.
And how do you turn off the cards?
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No, I mean the Google App.

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No, I mean the Google App.
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Oh, I got it.
Turns out disabling permissions for location for the Google App solves the problem.

Well, strangely the problem has come back. Disabling location permission for the Google app clearly solved the problem (because I turned it on and off several times to verify this). But now today the icon won't go away again, even with location disabled for the Google app. More weirdly, turning location off altogether on the phone does not make the icon go away. Also disabling the Google app does not help.
But just setting location to high accuracy (plus restarting) does still make it go away.

@cb474
Heh same problem here. But I'm on a Sony... Disabling location entirely does nothing. Not sure if it's a play services bug or Android. Battery drain is nominal, went through all the apps with location history. Anyone any clue?
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Sebi673 said:
Heh same problem here. But I'm on a Sony... Disabling location entirely does nothing. Not sure if it's a play services bug or Android. Battery drain is nominal, went through all the apps with location history. Anyone any clue?
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Is your location set to high accuracy?

TonikJDK said:
Is your location set to high accuracy?
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Yup. But even if I turn the location off, the icon remains I'm starting to think its a bug, the security update happened recently.

On Nexus / Pixel devices this icon should only appear when an application is requesting location information from your device.
With other brands of Android phones the location icon sometimes has a slightly different meaning in the sense that it might indicate that location services are simply on.
I would revisit your installed apps and look to see what you have running that might be requesting your location. You can start revoking the location access permission from the app(s) you suspect might be causing this to help you narrow down and find the culprit.

Yup,, I noticed just yesterday the last beta for Tapatalk requested for location to be turned on. Notification was always showing in status bar. Turned that setting off in Settings>Apps & Notifications>Tapatalk app and turned that permission off.
Fixed
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When this happens to mine, I toggle location off and reboot the phone. It's always Google Play Services misbehaving, I think it's a third party app (Instagram) polling continuously.

fishlifters said:
When this happens to mine, I toggle location off and reboot the phone. It's always Google Play Services misbehaving, I think it's a third party app (Instagram) polling continuously.
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Yeah, I do something similar. I don't have the problem if my phone is set to high accuracy, but if it's set to device only and I restart the phone then the location icon shows up right away and won't go away. I then have to set the phone to high accuracy, restart the phone, the location is not there are restart, and then I set it back to device only.
The problem is not a third party app requesting location. I'm very careful about what permissions I give to apps. And I had the problem before I really installed any apps. I don't know what it is and never really resolved this, but I am also suspicious of Google Play Services or some other low level Google process.
I suspect not a lot of people run into this issue, because they either just disable location services or set it to high accuracy, but not to device only.

cb474 said:
Yeah, I do something similar. I don't have the problem if my phone is set to high accuracy, but if it's set to device only and I restart the phone then the location icon shows up right away and won't go away. I then have to set the phone to high accuracy, restart the phone, the location is not there are restart, and then I set it back to device only.
The problem is not a third party app requesting location. I'm very careful about what permissions I give to apps. And I had the problem before I really installed any apps. I don't know what it is and never really resolved this, but I am also suspicious of Google Play Services or some other low level Google process.
I suspect not a lot of people run into this issue, because they either just disable location services or set it to high accuracy, but not to device only.
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In your case it is the Google Now cards...that you swipe right to get too. It's the location service to set the weather. I am certain of it.

TonikJDK said:
In your case it is the Google Now cards...that you swipe right to get too. It's the location service to set the weather. I am certain of it.
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Xperias are usually running very close to vanilla hence why I'm saying 'me too' to this bug. (also the xda thread on my XZp is a ghost town - on this reasoning the next phone will deffo be a pixel or a 1+).
Anyway, i suspect the issue has something to do with GnssLocationProvider returning an error on a wakelock by com.android.server.location.gnsslocationprovider - gpsrequest. But that's speculation.
Another thing I tried with limited success was to clear data for Google play services, services framework, google and play store. After reinit the location only appeared as designed - when in use. Phone reboot only gives about half an hour before something triggers location and the annoying icon stays on.
However, 12 hours later, on BT connect, location updated and the icon persisted. From what I can tell there is no additional battery drain - i'm using the third party GPS Status app which sends a notification whenever the GPS is engaged and it only comes up on regular play services update and of course maps and other location enabled apps.
Also tried force stopping all of the user apps, then main system apps (google and oem services) and then backend services till at some point it halted and rebooted. Icon was still there.
For now I disabled the location icon and only left the Gps status app to notify whenever gps is actually running. Right now my guess is play services acting up although this behavior started after Jan security update. What's worth mentioning is that i'm using the bets of google apps including play services. My dad has the same phone with the same config but no betas or anything and he does not have this issue. So i'm less inclined to think it's a device specific but rather a google play services bug.

TonikJDK said:
In your case it is the Google Now cards...that you swipe right to get too. It's the location service to set the weather. I am certain of it.
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I don't use Google Now or Google Assistant. I have no Google based weather update running. I have that stuff totally disabled.
Sebi673 said:
For now I disabled the location icon and only left the Gps status app to notify whenever gps is actually running. Right now my guess is play services acting up although this behavior started after Jan security update. What's worth mentioning is that i'm using the bets of google apps including play services. My dad has the same phone with the same config but no betas or anything and he does not have this issue. So i'm less inclined to think it's a device specific but rather a google play services bug.
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For me this issue has been there from day one, when I got the phone in October (I ordered the day the phoen launched). So it does not have to do with the January update for me.
That aside, how do you disable the location icon?