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Hey guys I have a question about straight talk service.my question is what is the best option between simple mobile vs straight talk.the thing is where I live T-Mobile service is only edge service so I called straight talk customer service and they told me that they run on T-Mobile and at&t so can I use at&t service on my Samsung galaxy s 4g.(at&t is the best service here now does any one here have straight talk on there phone here that can give me some advice..side note my phone is unlocked
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I currently am not on either one of those services. However if I understand correctly about the two services I believes Simple Mobile is the better service when it comes to data usage, however though according to research the two are very similar when it comes to coverage(they both use basically the same towers) the main differences would be data caps. Look into the data caps of both plans, but if what you are saying is true about T-Mobile having only Edge then that shouldn't really matter, go with the one that has the better speed, because if you only get Edge you'll never even get close to the data cap anyways.
I've even read things that say Straight Talk now owns Simple Mobile. How true that is I don't really know, do some research for yourself and make the best decision from your budget and your area, even if I had one of those plans my experience would most likely be very different than any experiences you will have because of the areas we live in. Try talking to people in your area that have one of the two, they would know a lot more about the service, speed, and coverage than anyone that doesn't live near you.
That's just my advice...
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just one thing you need to know. when if you go to att, the thing is you might not even get 3/4g but only edge because of the difference on frequency/broadband att and tmobile uses. i don't know about straight talk because never use it nor research what frequency/broadband it uses
The biggest issue is Straight Talk has a invisible DAILY data cap. And they dont just shut off the data they turn off the service completely. Ive been told to order the T-Mo sim from them not the att so you dont hit the daily cap.
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The biggest issue is Straight Talk has a invisible DAILY data cap. And they dont just shut off the data they turn off the service completely. Ive been told to order the T-Mo sim from them not the att so you dont hit the daily cap.
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the problem for me is that the T-Mobile service sucks here I only get edge and at&t service is the best here..
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tlopez1973 said:
the problem for me is that the T-Mobile service sucks here I only get edge and at&t service is the best here..
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I would use a data monitor for a couple weeks get a idea of how much data you use per day. Then decide if it is worth having to ***** at ST to get your account turned back on if you go over.
n1vlek said:
just one thing you need to know. when if you go to att, the thing is you might not even get 3/4g but only edge because of the difference on frequency/broadband att and tmobile uses. i don't know about straight talk because never use it nor research what frequency/broadband it uses
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The SGS4G has a 1900 MHz UMTS modem, so you should be able to get at least 3G from the AT&T network (unless you live in one of their 850 MHz areas).
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The SGS4G has a 1900 MHz UMTS modem, so you should be able to get at least 3G from the AT&T network (unless you live in one of their 850 MHz areas).
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Sorry to tell you this can be your reference.
http://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_4g-3719.php
Clearly state that our device only get 3/4g from 1700/2100MHz and others are Edge/2g
I just switched from T-mobile to Straight talk due to the same reason as stated in the OP. The T-mobile coverage was bad in my office building and AT&T penetration in buildings is always claimed to be better. I unlocked my Galaxy S 4g using the helpful posts from here and ordered the Straight talk AT&T card. I can confirm that I do see 3G showing on my phone and the speed was great when it was 3G. But, its not always 3G, I do get in the Edge areas too often too. I am very happy because my voice coverage has improved leaps and bounds after switching.
I have read about the scary part where Straight talk cancels service if we go over some hidden limits. So to be safe, I ported my number over to Google voice and use that to make a call. This way, I can switch between phone providers easily without any porting issues. But, not sure if Google voice will remain free after the end of the year.
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I just switched from T-mobile to Straight talk due to the same reason as stated in the OP. The T-mobile coverage was bad in my office building and AT&T penetration in buildings is always claimed to be better. I unlocked my Galaxy S 4g using the helpful posts from here and ordered the Straight talk AT&T card. I can confirm that I do see 3G showing on my phone and the speed was great when it was 3G. But, its not always 3G, I do get in the Edge areas too often too. I am very happy because my voice coverage has improved leaps and bounds after switching.
I have read about the scary part where Straight talk cancels service if we go over some hidden limits. So to be safe, I ported my number over to Google voice and use that to make a call. This way, I can switch between phone providers easily without any porting issues. But, not sure if Google voice will remain free after the end of the year.
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Thank you guys all here for your responds I will try straight talk next month when my service is about to end with simple mobile.I don't have nothing to lose but the 12 dollar for:thumb ST sim card and 5 dollars extra ST service vs my 40 dollar simple mobile service :thumbup:
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Sorry to tell you this can be your reference.
http://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_4g-3719.php
Clearly state that our device only get 3/4g from 1700/2100MHz and others are Edge/2g
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Samsung doesn't advertise the 1900 MHz UMTS band for the phone, but it's there. I often swap out the SIM on my phone with my work iPhone, and the 3G works just fine.
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I was able to get the Verizon Samsung galaxy S3 to work on simple mobile(prepaid service that uses t-mobile's towers) but I am only getting 2g speed. As anyone being able to get it work on t-mobile with 3g speeds.If the 3g works on t-mobile, it would work on simple mobile.
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I was able to get the Verizon Samsung galaxy S3 to work on simple mobile(prepaid service that uses t-mobile's towers) but I am only getting 2g speed. As anyone being able to get it work on t-mobile with 3g speeds.If the 3g works on t-mobile, it would work on simple mobile.
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I'm currently on T-Mobile, and I'm only getting max of EDGE connection, which is equivilent to 2G... I guess. Lol
Only way 3G or 4G will work is for T-Mobile to merge Verizon towers with theirs, and that will not happen, for about another month or so, promised by T-Mobile. But I hope so!
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I'm currently on T-Mobile, and I'm only getting max of EDGE connection, which is equivilent to 2G... I guess. Lol
Only way 3G or 4G will work is for T-Mobile to merge Verizon towers with theirs, and that will not happen, for about another month or so, promised by T-Mobile. But I hope so!
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From what I have heard from verizon themselves is that the contract talks fell apart between them and t-mobile. I have an S3 and have rooted and swapped sims.. then reprogrammed the phone to only pickup 750mhz 1700mhz, 1900mhz, and 2100mhz (I believe that is what I have it set to) so that if/when they do get back together and make it happen the phone that I have setup will be able to grab the tower information and get 4g. I have spoken with T-,Mobile and they are not saying anything at this time. I will keep you up to date.
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From what I have heard from verizon themselves is that the contract talks fell apart between them and t-mobile. I have an S3 and have rooted and swapped sims.. then reprogrammed the phone to only pickup 750mhz 1700mhz, 1900mhz, and 2100mhz (I believe that is what I have it set to) so that if/when they do get back together and make it happen the phone that I have setup will be able to grab the tower information and get 4g. I have spoken with T-,Mobile and they are not saying anything at this time. I will keep you up to date.
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Wait so how were you able to do this. Can you post the instructions online.So your currently getting 3g with tmobile on you verizon GS3?
samsunggs3owner said:
Wait so how were you able to do this. Can you post the instructions online.So your currently getting 3g with tmobile on you verizon GS3?
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no. what I was mentioning is that the contract talks between them fell apart...I am still working on getting 3g on the phone.. however I have seen that the chipsets are the same between the models. I purchased 2 gs3s one att and one verizon. Opened them up and part numbers where the same on the main board. I am fairly new to the android development area and so to the best of my knowledge you should be able to flash the radioover but have not tried yet... am going to try once I get some time to flash an AT&T radio and kernals and see if I can put a sim into the phone and see what happens.
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no. what I was mentioning is that the contract talks between them fell apart...I am still working on getting 3g on the phone.. however I have seen that the chipsets are the same between the models. I purchased 2 gs3s one att and one verizon. Opened them up and part numbers where the same on the main board. I am fairly new to the android development area and so to the best of my knowledge you should be able to flash the radioover but have not tried yet... am going to try once I get some time to flash an AT&T radio and kernals and see if I can put a sim into the phone and see what happens.
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Hope you got jtag Some very good devs have tried to get it to work for months and havent been able to. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1895684
This Friday I will travel to Portugal and I would like to use the carriers from there.
I already went to the Verizon store and they told me that they couldn't unlock and for 100mb would be 30$.
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This Friday I will travel to Portugal and I would like to use the carriers from there.
I already went to the Verizon store and they told me that they couldn't unlock and for 100mb would be 30$.
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They lied to you. The phone is already unlocked ( I went to guam and used a DoCoMo Sim while i was there on CM10.1)
You can use the 100mb data plan if your going somewhere for a short amount of time. ( I used that plan while i had my layovers in Japan)
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They lied to you. The phone is already unlocked ( I went to guam and used a DoCoMo Sim while i was there on CM10.1)
You can use the 100mb data plan if your going somewhere for a short amount of time. ( I used that plan while i had my layovers in Japan)
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I have CM stable 10.1.2 that means if i buy a vodafone sim card i can use it with no problem ??
My wife have the factory rom ( never rooted) is her phone unlocked to ??
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I traveled to Thailand earlier this year and used a local sim for voice and data.
You'll likely need to be on a touch wiz ROM. I highly recommend you install one before you leave. You can't go wrong with cleanrom. Beans is also good if you like also roms. I used beans 14 at the time.
You'll need to add the pay as you go global voice and data feature to your plan. You can do that online or over the phone. You'll also need an app to swap apn's to use data on your third party carrier's sim card. I use apn manager pro.
Once you have the new sim, turn off you phone and swap out your Verizon sim. Pop the new one in and power on. You should be connected for voice at least. Now use your apn app to input the new carrier's info. Most of the time you can search for it online, but it's best to get it when you buy your sim.
When you return just replace the sim and return to verizon apn settings. And for the love of all that is holy, don't use your Verizon service overseas. It's expensive.
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jnc8651 said:
They lied to you. The phone is already unlocked ( I went to guam and used a DoCoMo Sim while i was there on CM10.1)
You can use the 100mb data plan if your going somewhere for a short amount of time. ( I used that plan while i had my layovers in Japan)
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i'm not sure if they lied - my understanding was that you can easily swap a local SIM in to get access to voice and text, but that data does not work (at least out of the box). there's another post that talks about swapping APNs, which is what you would need to do. i thought that the latest OTA allowed that flexibility though...? i'm rooted and use Beans B14 though, so i don't keep up with OTAs.
for what it's worth, i went to europe recently and used 97 MB over a two week period. i saved all google maps offline before heading there, checked emails and used internet only on wifi, and only used mobile data occasionally when i was out and about in order to look up restaurant reviews and whatnot.
they pro-rated the $25 over half the month so my bill was only $14 more than it would have been normally. for me, at $14 it was worth it so i didn't have to screw around with buying a local SIM and worrying about things not working.
[QUOTE=frescagod;44178283]i'm not sure if they lied - my understanding was that you can easily swap a local SIM in to get access to voice and text, but that data does not work (at least out of the box). there's another post that talks about swapping APNs, which is what you would need to do. i thought that the latest OTA allowed that flexibility though...? i'm rooted and use Beans B14 though, so i don't keep up with OTAs.
for what it's worth, i went to europe recently and used 97 MB over a two week period. i saved all google maps offline before heading there, checked emails and used internet only on wifi, and only used mobile data occasionally when i was out and about in order to look up restaurant reviews and whatnot.
they pro-rated the $25 over half the month so my bill was only $14 more than it would have been normally. for me, at $14 it was worth it so i didn't have to screw around with buying a local SIM and worrying about things not working.[/QUOTE]
I will be going to France and England in September. I have a stock S3 with very little tech knowledge. Could someone explain in simple term how to go about obtaining and loading Sims. I don't even know what you all mean by APN
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I will be going to France and England in September. I have a stock S3 with very little tech knowledge. Could someone explain in simple term how to go about obtaining and loading Sims. I don't even know what you all mean by APN
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The sim is a small card inserted in the back of your phone next to where you'd put the SD card. It lets you connect to the cellular provider. You have a Verizon sim card in your phone. There are several sizes. The GS3 uses a micro-sim card. If you turn your phone off now and take the back panel off, you'll see it. I can't remember, but it may be under the battery.
If your phone isn't rooted, which it doesn't appear to be, then you won't be able to get data service, but you can still get phone service with an overseas carrier. You can see my earlier post for steps, but all you need to do is have Verizon add the Global Roaming feature to your plan. When you get to Europe, you can buy a micro-sim from one of the local carriers and put some money on a pre-pay plan. Turn off your phone and swap out the verizon sim for the local sim. Turn your phone back on and you'll have voice service.
The APN info needs to be changed to connect to data services after the sim card is changed out, but you need to have a rooted phone for this. You can change that with an app. I use APN Manager Pro. There are several fields you have to enter, but you can get it from the carrier. It's a little like telling your computer what IP server to connect to to get internet access.
Another option entirely is to get a Google voice number and use a service like GrooveIP or Talkatone. You won't have cell service, but you can make and recieve calls using your Google voice number when connected to wifi. This will let you call back to the U.S. for very cheap rates.
The easiest thing would be just call on Verizon using their global roaming feature, but it can get pricey. Ask Verizon for roaming rates in the countries you'll be going to.
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just came back from Europe and I was able to buy two prepaid data cards(Wife and I) in Germany(Orange) and Italy(TIM) and was able to get HPSA+ data without any issues, all I had to do is add the APN setting into my phone and I was good to go. I was on CM10.1 and wife on stock rom and didnt have any issue getting them to work. Good Luck
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Hey !
So i purchased a Verizon galaxy s3 a few months back on Craigslist. I'm currently living in Mexico so I'm using Telcel Mexico as my carrier.
I rooted it and added the apn for telcel using hiapn and currently internet and data is working but all i'm getting is Edge or 2G speed.
I've looked around and read various different posts, it seems that verizon blocks the the speed.
This is deffinitely a hindrance for me since web browsing is really slow and downloads are even worse. If i flash a different Rom with this be taken care of ? Does anyone know of any other way of dealing with this ?
Please help! I've looked everywhere in vain
I do not think flashing any type of Rom will increase your data speed since it depends on the radio frequenices allowed for your device.
continued - thanks for answering so fast
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I do not think flashing any type of Rom will increase your data speed since it depends on the radio frequenices allowed for your device.
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So there is nothing to be done then ?
I can not say for your specific carrier.
But it seems that your apn settings are correct because you are getting edge/2g speeds.
The problem is what frequency Telcel uses for 4g/LTE and the frequency Verizon allows for that device.
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vgs929 said:
I can not say for your specific carrier.
But it seems that your apn settings are correct because you are getting edge/2g speeds.
The problem is what frequency Telcel uses for 4g/LTE and the frequency Verizon allows for that device.
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I'm sorry, I'm still trying to make sense of all of this. so you're saying it's hardware related, in other words the phone doesn't have the right frequencies to pick up the 4g ? or that verizon has blocked it somehow and that's why it's not working?
if that's the case do you think something can be done to unlock it?
thanks again
timaloud said:
Hey !
So i purchased a Verizon galaxy s3 a few months back on Craigslist. I'm currently living in Mexico so I'm using Telcel Mexico as my carrier.
I rooted it and added the apn for telcel using hiapn and currently internet and data is working but all i'm getting is Edge or 2G speed.
I've looked around and read various different posts, it seems that verizon blocks the the speed.
This is deffinitely a hindrance for me since web browsing is really slow and downloads are even worse. If i flash a different Rom with this be taken care of ? Does anyone know of any other way of dealing with this ?
Please help! I've looked everywhere in vain
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I hadn't heard of Verizon throttling international carriers. The first thing I'd check would be coverage area or maybe the service you purchased doesn't include 3G. I've been able to get 3G service internationally.
The Verizon S3 uses [EDIT]:
2G Network CDMA 800 / 1900 - SCH-I535
3G Network CDMA2000 1xEV-DO - SCH-I535
4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 13 - SCH-I535
If telcel doesn't use CDMA, that could be your problem.
sorry for delay
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I hadn't heard of Verizon throttling international carriers. The first thing I'd check would be coverage area or maybe the service you purchased doesn't include 3G. I've been able to get 3G service internationally.
The Verizon S3 uses [EDIT]:
2G Network CDMA 800 / 1900 - SCH-I535
3G Network CDMA2000 1xEV-DO - SCH-I535
4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 13 - SCH-I535
If telcel doesn't use CDMA, that could be your problem.
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After investigating it, it seems that TELCEL uses the TDMA 850 / GSM 1900 / UMTS 850 frequency bands for its network. So this would mean that since they use a different frequency for 3g and 4g than my phone there's nothing to be done right ?
Cheers.
timaloud said:
After investigating it, it seems that TELCEL uses the TDMA 850 / GSM 1900 / UMTS 850 frequency bands for its network. So this would mean that since they use a different frequency for 3g and 4g than my phone there's nothing to be done right ?
Cheers.
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Yup, that would be the problem. Here's some info on the differences between the networks.
http://mashable.com/2011/01/11/cdma-umts-att-verizon-networks/
http://www.tutorialspoint.com/gsm/tdma_and_cdma.htm
Verizon offers global roaming there with 3g service in Mexico. They must partner with another network. Here's a list of available service by country:
http://www.verizonwireless.com/content/dam/vzw/pdfs/Available_Global_Servies.pdf
timaloud said:
Hey !
So i purchased a Verizon galaxy s3 a few months back on Craigslist. I'm currently living in Mexico so I'm using Telcel Mexico as my carrier.
I rooted it and added the apn for telcel using hiapn and currently internet and data is working but all i'm getting is Edge or 2G speed.
I've looked around and read various different posts, it seems that verizon blocks the the speed.
This is deffinitely a hindrance for me since web browsing is really slow and downloads are even worse. If i flash a different Rom with this be taken care of ? Does anyone know of any other way of dealing with this ?
Please help! I've looked everywhere in vain
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Here are the specs for the Verizon Galaxy S3:
LTE, CDMA/PCS/1xEVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz)
Global: GPRS/EDGE/GSM (850/900/1800/1900); HSPA/UMTS (2100)
I don't know the answer to your question but I use a "Movistar" wireless carrier SIM in Mexico on my Verizon S3 and I get ~150kbps data speed. Its not very fast but at least it's something...
So let me get this straight...
So once I root my phone I can use it for Sprint? Also, does my phone have gsm capability?
No. You can't just use it for sprint. But it is a global capable device and supports international gsm.
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I broke my current phone "optimus zone" and i am looking for a new phone so i decided to get the galaxy s3 well im on verizon prepaid so i need a galaxy s3 that will work on prepaid verizonm and i need it to be rooted so i can use as a hotspot. i did some research and found that the i535 can be flashed to verizon prepaid "I Think" and it can also be rooted.
so i did some looking on ebay and found 3 things
1 i535 verizon unlocked - i looked at what a unlocked phone was and found out it just means it can be used with any compatable service provider. Can this be used with verizon and if so how?
2 i535 verizon - If i got this one can it be flashed to verizon prepaid? Can it get 4g on prepaid?
3 i710 sprint - i already ordered a sprint flashed to verizon prepaid one and found out u needed add on apps to use the sms and it cant get 4g so im woundering , if the' i535 verizon would be a better choice. i would have to learn to flash but thats no big deal.. i havent recieved the one i ordered yet but when i do i think im going to return it...
I have looked all over and can not figure out if the verizon i535 will get 4g after its flashed to verizon prepaid and i havent found out 100% that it can be flashed to verizon prepaid. Im posative it can be rooted i think lol. Or can i buy a unlocked i535 and use it on verizon prepaid somehow, easier than learning to flash???
Just sign up with Page Plus. They've been offering Verizon 4G LTE for a month now
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I can't get survice with anyone but verizon i dout page will work in my area. And I'm not really really consurned about 4g i just hate to have a sprint phone that only gets 3g if the same phone on another carrier can get 4g... but i just need to know yes pr no can the i535 be flashed to prepaid verizon?? And if it can it be used on 4g or only 3g like the sprint one after flash... i live in a rural area and i bairley get signal as it is... i hear that this page plus provider uses verizon towers.. i don't understand does that mean it will get the exact same signal as verizon prepaid cuz that's thr ONLY provider i can use.. pleas let me knoq if the i535 can be flashed to prepaid verizon and can it get 4g yes or no please let me know I'm without a phone and really need to know what to do... i feel like i made a mistake buying the sprint one...
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If they're truly Verizon towers I'd say page plus should work fine. I was told however by a guy with a local shop (I live in the boonies), that because we have so many towers around here that are owned by a regional carrier appalacian wireless that have an agreement with Big Red, that page plus would Roam more whereas Selectel wouldn't. Now, I don't know if the guy was telling the truth or not. I do know from Selectel's website that if you sign someone up to selectel and that person continues to use Selectel and re-ups through the website or whereever, the original person who signed you up gets a cut of the profits. Page Plus may not offer such a deal, so I don't actually know 100% either way. I'm looking to find something cheaper than Big Red myself. I have two phones with them at the moment with a bill of 105.00 or 107.00 but with only 250Mb of data and 1GB free for a year. I can get by with little to no data, I really don't use much, but I'd like to have it available should I need to go out of town and use the internet or use navigation which I suspect would drink the data. I know you can pre download maps with many apps these days though.
Let me know what you find out. I have the Verizon sch-i535 sgs3 with a broken power button but otherwise it's a good phone. Still does what I need it to, and development hasn't stopped yet, it's still going pretty strong on the aosp side..
Edit: I recently had my phone flashed to selectel wireless. If you have a cdma phone you can do the activation from their website. However, I think it must be a phone without a sim such as a DX or DX2. a cdma only phone. I had to take my s3 to a local selectel dealer who did the flash and got me on selectel. I went with selectel because it will roam on the regional towers in my area albiet voice and texting only not data. So, when roaming I won't have data. Pageplus from what I've read on both their site and another forum will roam but they will charge you quite a bit to do so. If you don't have the issue of roaming like I do and are near verizon towers all the time, I'd probably go with another MVNO.
I tried tracfone BYOP with my DX2 and spent a small fortune in service and gas going from here to there trying to get it activated. First they said to go to a town about 25min away from home. I did this and no dice. I called them twice using a wifi app (hangouts) and spent about 4 hours in this town trying to get the activation to work to no avail. I called again from home and was told to go to another town about an hour away. The next day I did just that. They had me dial *22891 *22801 this time activation went smooth and I was able to use data and make and receive calls perfectly. If I had known this in the closer town it would have worked there but the rep never told me that. To top things off when I got home I had no service at all. Zip None. When I called I was told that a BYOP android phone would not roam on the regional towers although a feature phone would. I was also told incorrectly I believe that if I had purchased an android tracfone from a local store that it would roam. This too from what I've read is incorrect. No android tracfone will roam on regional towers, they will only work on genuine verizon towers. I was hoping to purchase the moto e from ebay with a 400min card which tripled to 1200 min for 99 bucks. This would have been a great deal since the 400 min card alone is around 90. I never did find out the entire truth about roaming with tracfone android phones. But from what I read on the other forum and another site dedicated to tracfones, that they would not roam period. What a freaking ripoff. The same goes for a lot of other MVNO's they simply won't roam. Even Verizon perpaid phones won't work on any towers other than verizon. Again, this came from someone who supposedly had experience with this.
The bottom line is beware of MVNO's if you require roaming. Straight talk may or may not work I do not know if they roam or not. But either way selectel was cheaper. Granted it sucks that I can't get data when roaming but at least I can make and receive calls and texts. At least SMS. I haven't tried MMS and I'm guessing it won't work due to it requiring data. Remember your results may vary and I'd certainly like to hear from others who use a MVNO that is Verizon based. Or even MVNO that is ATT based ATT's coverage map says there's coverage in my area, and i know there is across the stateline where I live. A friend used to have an ATT phone a few years back and he had zero service when he crossed the line by about a half a mile, probably out of range of the ATT tower. He now has NET10 using ATT and has the same coverage.
Good luck and keep me posted please on this.
Thanks
I don't wunt page plus i need to be able to use on verizons prepayed network... can the i535 be flashed to prepayed verizon.. or is there some way to use a verizon sim to get prepayed please let me know thank you
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So I'm wanting to buy the Note Pro 12.2, and would like to set it up on my T-mobile plan if possible. There was a thread over and android central that talked about it, but honestly I don't have the warm and fuzzies that it will work. Has anybody confirmed that it will work on T-mobile, and if so which device do I need to get (AT&T or Verizon, assuming AT&T but figured I'd ask). If it won't work, then I'll just hop on the woot deal today and pick up a wifi one. Thanks!
The international unlocked note pro (P905), and at&t note pro (P907A) will both work on t-mobile. Although you'll have to get the at&t model unlocked. Don't know if the Verizon model (905V) will work on t-mobile.
Excellent thanks, you have yours on TMO, or somewhere else? So if I get the international, in theory, I should be able to just plug in a sim and be good? And if it's the AT&T one do you know if they'll give any hassle because I'm not an AT&T customer?
Thanks!
It works perfectly fine on T-Mobile...
Edit: Oh. You meant the American T-Mobile, which has an entirely different system to Deutsche Telekom (The company that is T-Mobile). In that case, I have no idea.
Ahh yes sorry, should have mentioned it was US T-Mobile. Does that change Omnipresent's answer?
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Ahh yes sorry, should have mentioned it was US T-Mobile. Does that change Omnipresent's answer?
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No. Omnipresent is a US T-Mobile user according to his profile. Ignore my post, he's the one who's right.
It seems to me that it would be preferable to get an international unlocked version (currently I see the 905 model on Amazon for $743) over a US carrier version which goes for more money and would need to be unlocked (possibly at additional cost?).
I'm wondering though, are there any concerns with doing so other than making sure that the LTE bands supported by the 905 are a match for the carrier to be used? What about warranty service of the device within the US?
Let me break this down:
The P905 will work on T-Mobile USA, but you will NOT get LTE as it does not support LTE band 4. Samsung always locks out US LTE bands on their international SIM free devices as to discourage importers and to stop people from taking away business from their carrier partners. Further, if you don't live in an area where T-Mobile has re-farmed 3G to 1,900 MHz, you won't get HSPA+ either, and will be stuck on EDGE because the P905 also doesn't support 1,700 MHz UMTS.
Now, the P907A (AT&T) model will give you LTE on T-Mobile, but will not give you HSPA+ unless you're in a 1,900 MHz farmed area. So this is probably a better choice for you if LTE is important. You will have to pay for your unlock code, though as AT&T won't unlock devices unless they're paid for in full and have had active service for 60 days.
P907V (Verizon) does not support GSM at all. It's 100% CDMA/LTE to the best of my knowledge, and only supports Verizon's band 13 LTE.
No situation here is ideal, but I definitely think that a P907A is a better choice if you want to use it on T-Mobile USA.
For those of you more visual, let's look at it this way:
P905:
T-Mobile LTE? No.
T-Mobile HSPA+? Only in 1,900 MHz re-farmed areas.
T-Mobile 2G EDGE? Yes.
P907A:
T-Mobile LTE? Yes.
T-Mobile HSPA+? Only in 1,900 MHz re-farmed areas.
T-Mobile 2G EDGE? Yes.
P907V:
T-Mobile LTE? GTFO.
T-Mobile HSPA+? GTFO.
T-Mobile 2G EDGE? GTFO.
oldblue910 said:
Further, if you don't live in an area where T-Mobile has re-farmed 3G to 1,900 MHz, you won't get HSPA+ either, and will be stuck on EDGE because the P905 also doesn't support 1,700 MHz UMTS.
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I've been doing a bunch of research and that's what I have figured out as well
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You will have to pay for your unlock code, though as AT&T won't unlock devices unless they're paid for in full and have had active service for 60 days.
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So, if I don't buy it from AT&T (waiting for a deal on rakuten), do you know what the process would be or what the fee would be?
Thank you very much for your help!
jgardner said:
I've been doing a bunch of research and that's what I have figured out as well
So, if I don't buy it from AT&T (waiting for a deal on rakuten), do you know what the process would be or what the fee would be?
Thank you very much for your help!
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Chances are, it'll still be SIM locked. You could try to have AT&T unlock it, but they'll probably tell you you don't meet some stupid criteria. You'd be best to use one of the 3rd party sites, and the costs for unlock codes can vary. I got my P907A unlocked via Cellunlocker.net and it cost me $30 I believe. Also, in case you want absolute proof that the P907A works on T-Mobile LTE, I created a video on this a while ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RIx5SUfif8 and skip to about 11:05.
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I got my P907A unlocked via Cellunlocker.net and it cost me $30 I believe.
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Oh pfft only 30 bucks (or even anywhere around there) is perfectly fine. Honestly I'm not too worried about the cost as much as I am making sure it's possible.
And thanks for the video, makes me feel a lot better getting this device. Now to try and wait for a good deal before my patience runs out and I just end up dropping full price lol.
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P907V:
T-Mobile LTE? GTFO.
T-Mobile HSPA+? GTFO.
T-Mobile 2G EDGE? GTFO.
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Just noticed your edit. Literally lawl'd at this!
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Oh pfft only 30 bucks (or even anywhere around there) is perfectly fine. Honestly I'm not too worried about the cost as much as I am making sure it's possible.
And thanks for the video, makes me feel a lot better getting this device. Now to try and wait for a good deal before my patience runs out and I just end up dropping full price lol.
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No problem. Glad I could help.
Nice breakdown oldblue910. Jgardner, also bear in mind the international note pro (p905) can natively make and receive phone calls, while the Verizon and AT&T note pro cannot. This was my main rational for getting the 905. I sacrificed LTE but gained voice call capabilities using Tmobile's 3G/HSPA+ network in the U.S. Someone mentioned in another thread, that your could use the app groove ip and make and receive phone calls on the Verizon and AT&T Note Pro. Unfortunately, I don't know if this has been confirmed yet.
T-Mobile with the Verizon p905v
T-Mobile does work on the Verizon tablet (p905v) they both use LTE band 4 1700-2100MHz. There is an error with the setup wizard app complaining the SIM is unrecognized but that's easy, just stop/freeze the app. Actually I froze most of the Verizon apps.
1- Open the Settings
2- Select Wireless & networks
3- Select Mobile Networks
4- Select Access Point Names.
5- Tap the three dots at the top right and select New APN.
Name *T-Mobile
APN *fast.t-mobile.com
Proxy *blank
Username *blank
Password *blank
Server *blank
MMSC *http://mms.msg.eng.t-mobile.com/mms/wapenc
MMS Proxy
MMS Port *80
MMC *310
MNC *260
Authentication type not set
APN Type default,supl,mms
APN Protocol *WAP 2.0
APN enable/disable* *blank
I stand corrected, then. Good stuff!
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Picked up a refurb 907A unlocked for $380. Tmo sim in. APN settings updates. LTE no problem. Probably have refarmed 4g in philly but haven't encountered it yet. There were more unlocked 907A's on ebay at the same price too. Sold my wifi version for a few dollars more actually so I can't complain.
ebay link. $380.
All verizon lte devices are unlocked.. it's a requirement from fcc added when google also bid on the spectrum.
I have a question:
Jargin said:
T-Mobile does work on the Verizon tablet (p905v) they both use LTE band 4 1700-2100MHz. There is an error with the setup wizard app complaining the SIM is unrecognized but that's easy, just stop/freeze the app. Actually I froze most of the Verizon apps.
1- Open the Settings
2- Select Wireless & networks
3- Select Mobile Networks
4- Select Access Point Names.
5- Tap the three dots at the top right and select New APN.
Name *T-Mobile
APN *fast.t-mobile.com
Proxy *blank
Username *blank
Password *blank
Server *blank
MMSC *http://mms.msg.eng.t-mobile.com/mms/wapenc
MMS Proxy
MMS Port *80
MMC *310
MNC *260
Authentication type not set
APN Type default,supl,mms
APN Protocol *WAP 2.0
APN enable/disable* *blank
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does your device make phone calls? I made the mistake of getting the At&t 907A, thinking I can make phone calls but was unable to. If I saw this thread earlier, I wouldn't jump straight to the 907 and did more research. It's one of those things that you've think you've researched enough but after you get it, you found a problem the hard way, then it's easy to find that you're not the only one.
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does your device make phone calls? I made the mistake of getting the At&t 907A, thinking I can make phone calls but was unable to. If I saw this thread earlier, I wouldn't jump straight to the 907 and did more research. It's one of those things that you've think you've researched enough but after you get it, you found a problem the hard way, then it's easy to find that you're not the only one.
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None of the US Carrier branded tablets allow calls or text (missing software). Use a Google Voice account.