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I am having a problem with switching ROMs on my sensation which just started a few days ago. I am currently running ARHD 3.1.1 and it is very stable and I have had no problems whatsoever, but like many here, I like trying out different and new ROMs. Anyways, I did a backup and installed ARHD 3.6.2, and it was forcing close on several apps, and kept getting soft reboots, so I tried RCMix's, and it would load and automatically install some apps and settings that I had on my previous ROM, and it was working fine, but then I started getting soft reboots when I would open any app, so I tried about 2 other ROMs (S3n5eay/Pyramid3D) and same thing, so being fed up I restored my backup and then I began to have superuser problems, so I unistalled updates, cleared data, and still was unable to gain root access. I kept clearing data, installed superuser 2.3.6 then 3.02 and finally got root again, but everytime I reboot I lose root. I then again tried different ROMs, and same thing is happening. I have used superwipe script, ARHD's wipe script, P3D wipe script, formated from CWM, and no matter what, I am still unable to keep a new ROM and keep losing root with my backup. I'm sorry for a long post, but can anyone please help me figure this out. I have upgraded ROMs many a times in the past on this phone and others, and have never experienced these problems, so can someone please help me.
I kinda had the same problem with you, with that being root was the problem. But the ROM's are pre-rooted so that shouldn't be a problem. Try to flash the root file again, until it is succesfull flashed.
Thanks. I'll go ahead and try that.
Sent from Sensational toy running ARHD 3.1.1
Geez, that sounds horrible, man. It never ceases to surprise me how different every one of these seemingly identical devices are.
West0000 said:
Geez, that sounds horrible, man. It never ceases to surprise me how different every one of these seemingly identical devices are.
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Well for the most part everyone downloads different software. For that just one of the factors that make us all somewhat "different" this is why everyone has some sort of problems here and there.
Most times a fix can be a reboot or reinstall of the app. Even clearing of caches helps because of data conflicts on the phone. Especially when someone like me that flashes different ROMS, that's why nandroids and backups are key so that if you fudge up your phone, you can always revert back to your nandroid.
And for all the people who are trying to revert back to their nandroid after flashing a different rom, you need to use the wipe data scripts in ARHD or Coredroid to reformat the ext4 before reverting your nandroid. Just a FYI.
All I know is that wiping everything before flashing a new ROM does not guarantee that you won't get FCs and soft reboots.
For example, I did a factory reset, wiped cache, wiped dalvik, and then did superwipe (yes I know redundant), and then flashed a ROM and I thought nothing could go wrong. Then while setting up I went ahead and setup my google account during the setup process, and once I was finished I began restoring my apps+data from Titanium Backup. While that was happening Market started auto-reinstalling my apps, and this instantly conflicted with the fact that I was doing the same thing from TB. It caused a few of my apps to FC all the time. So make sure you skip adding your google account during setup.
You can also get stuff to go haywire if you restore system data from TB. Doing so will conflict with the ROM and cause FCs and reboots. For example, I didn't know how to easily back up texts and contacts for a while, and I would go in to TB and restore everything that said something like mms, messages, texts, messages widget, etc. and doing so actually caused my messages to go haywire. Same thing with contacts. The only things you should be restoring from TB are your user apps+data. As already noted, you should also superwipe before restoring a nandroid because it is exactly like flashing a new ROM. If you're on a ROM you just flashed that has 1 version of superuser, and then you go straight into recovery and restore a nandroid without wiping everything first (and has a different version of superuser), you're going to get issues with superuser.
The rule of thumb when it comes to avoiding FCs and reboots is to avoid letting data conflict. Don't mix ROM data, don't mix app data, don't restore system settings from your old ROM on your new one, etc.
Believe me, I have attempted everything without any success. I guess I'm going to stay on my current ROM until I get the time to deal with all of this, and hoping that for whatever reason I don't have to reboot my phone, or that it randomly reboots in order not to deal with the problems. I have always wiped going/coming from different ROMs, but have never experienced this before, and it is very frustrating especially when I like to try different developers mods. I'll keep attempting to try to figure this out, and if I find a solution, I will update.
cbrvnm said:
Believe me, I have attempted everything without any success. I guess I'm going to stay on my current ROM until I get the time to deal with all of this, and hoping that for whatever reason I don't have to reboot my phone, or that it randomly reboots in order not to deal with the problems. I have always wiped going/coming from different ROMs, but have never experienced this before, and it is very frustrating especially when I like to try different developers mods. I'll keep attempting to try to figure this out, and if I find a solution, I will update.
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Keep trying different ROMs and different strategies of when you wipe/restore stuff. It's quite interesting that theoretically identical phones can have different responses to the exact same actions. 2 people can install a ROM in the exact same way and for 1 it will work, the other it won't. You just gotta work it out until you figure out how to manage your particular issues.
Yeah, I hear you. It's just very frustrating when in the past I have switched ROMs on all the phones that I have ever owned without any problems until now. But I'll try different methods and see what happens. I appreciate everyones input. Thanks. Oh, and if anybody has any other suggestions, please, share.
Ok, I was able to get Pyramid3D v0.8.0 working so far. I flashed with superwipe about 3 times then installed the ROM. I did not sign into my account, and installed my apps from titanium first, and then signed in. I got several reboots with setcpu so I unistalled it. I also get a few market fcs. Now the problem that I have is that I installed the 4EXT recovery and my phone is unable to play my music files through any of the music players. I am able to open them with astro, but not music player. But I guess I'll try to figure this one out now. Thanks for the advice.
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All I know is that wiping everything before flashing a new ROM does not guarantee that you won't get FCs and soft reboots.
For example, I did a factory reset, wiped cache, wiped dalvik, and then did superwipe (yes I know redundant), and then flashed a ROM and I thought nothing could go wrong. Then while setting up I went ahead and setup my google account during the setup process, and once I was finished I began restoring my apps+data from Titanium Backup. While that was happening Market started auto-reinstalling my apps, and this instantly conflicted with the fact that I was doing the same thing from TB. It caused a few of my apps to FC all the time. So make sure you skip adding your google account during setup.
You can also get stuff to go haywire if you restore system data from TB. Doing so will conflict with the ROM and cause FCs and reboots. For example, I didn't know how to easily back up texts and contacts for a while, and I would go in to TB and restore everything that said something like mms, messages, texts, messages widget, etc. and doing so actually caused my messages to go haywire. Same thing with contacts. The only things you should be restoring from TB are your user apps+data. As already noted, you should also superwipe before restoring a nandroid because it is exactly like flashing a new ROM. If you're on a ROM you just flashed that has 1 version of superuser, and then you go straight into recovery and restore a nandroid without wiping everything first (and has a different version of superuser), you're going to get issues with superuser.
The rule of thumb when it comes to avoiding FCs and reboots is to avoid letting data conflict. Don't mix ROM data, don't mix app data, don't restore system settings from your old ROM on your new one, etc.
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Good post. I didn't realize I should be doing so much wiping even before restoring a backup.
Incidentally, I'm kicking myself now, but in the excitement of flashing my first custom ROM, I forgot to backup my original system. Doh. It's the only time I haven't backed up before changing ROMs, but that's arguably the most important backup to make.
I followed the instructions exactly on this page: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1663169
CM9 seemed to work fine for a while. I installed Titanium Backup and brought back my apps and just a bit of system data (contacts, voicemail, texts, etc). After I had restored those things, it said it suggested a reboot. I did that, but now it just reboots over and over. I can't get in to the OS for more than a few seconds before it reboots again. Help please!
As that thread specifies, I have a MX2 from CSpire. For now I don't care so much about getting CM9 working as just getting my phone back to a working state. I have both a nandroid and titanium backup on the sd card. I just need very specific instructions on how to get back to the way it was (2.3.6) given that I can't get in to the OS.
Edit: Pulling the battery doesn't resolve anything
Does it let you stay in long enough to remove the app/settings you restored? Are you able to get into recovery mode at all?
If you can get into recovery you might first want to try Fix Permissions and see how that works. If this does not solve it then consider doing a factory wipe and start restoring your apps/settings again one by one and rebooting in between until you get to the particular one that started your reboot problem.
What ROM were you on prior to CM9? Although they should be largely universal sometimes there are some slight changes in custom ROMs that might work well in many other ROMs but not in a select few. Other times it is an app that is not compatible.
The post below might be of some help since your phone seems to have a different method of getting into recovery than what I have dealt with so far.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=4395758
Factory Restore DX2
This might help. It's a factory restore, like you just bought it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1317707
After much sweat, tears, and button pressing, I have gotten it back to stock CM9 and it seems to be behaving as expected. I am going to install apps one by one and reboot between every install. Hopefully I'll find the culprit soon enough.
Just curious if anyone else has experienced any of the following:
I was running CM10.0.0, but had that issue where my NFC was unchecked. So i wanted to restore to a TW ROM so i can check on NFC, restore back to CM10, etc.
I did a backup. Tried to restore my old TW (synergy r73), but got an error in CWM 6.0.1.2:
Error while Restoring /System!
Then i got the same message for ALL of my nandroid backups, including the newest one i made of CM10. I did some searching and found tons of folks with the same issues, but no solutions beyond.. format your SDCard properly (which mine is).
That's fail #1.
After being unable to restore, i just flashed CM10 zip again and started over. I did however use that new Titanium feature where it makes a flashable zip of all of your apps a few days back.
But every time i try to flash the zip, the phone resets in the middle of the install. I've never seem CMW crash and reboot.
That's fail #2.
I ended up restoring apps the old fashioned way, but regardless... any ideas?
Thanks,
Mangler
As the title states, I can't get my camera to run on any AOSP ROMs. Camera works fine as soon as I switch to something TW based, but breaks as soon as I load anything AOSP.
I've searched everywhere I can think for this issue and have tried solutions that have worked for others but with no success. I've tried flashing back to stock unrooted, then rooting and starting all over again. I've tried copying cameradata files from TW based to AOSP (in several variations). I've tried reflashing (and I've done nothing but clean flashes each time I'm flashing anything). If it matters, my normal method is to wipe data/factory reset, then clear cache and dalvik, then install ROM + gapps, and then reboot.
I'm using CWM touch recovery v6.0.2.3, firmware VRBMF1 (and one or two others), and have tried leankernel in addition to stock kernels.
It may be worth mentioning that this is a refurbished device and I used Casual's One Click Root, whereas previously (Jan 2013) I rooted the long way and had no issues with anything really.
I had this problem for months. I did a clean install and it fix the problem. Try doing that and it might work for you too.
What do you mean by clean install?
Gigatrig said:
What do you mean by clean install?
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He's probably meaning to wipe everything in CWM. Data, system, sdcard, etc. Pretty much everything and you'll probably fix your problem. Maybe even flashing latest firmware again wouldn't hurt.
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kude87 said:
He's probably meaning to wipe everything in CWM. Data, system, sdcard, etc. Pretty much everything and you'll probably fix your problem. Maybe even flashing latest firmware again wouldn't hurt
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Do you mean in the "mounts and storage" menu? Use format /system... /data... /sdcard? I think that's what you mean, but I've not had to use those before, so I wanna make sure.
Thanks
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As the title states, I can't get my camera to run on any AOSP ROMs. Camera works fine as soon as I switch to something TW based, but breaks as soon as I load anything AOSP.
I've searched everywhere I can think for this issue and have tried solutions that have worked for others but with no success. I've tried flashing back to stock unrooted, then rooting and starting all over again. I've tried copying cameradata files from TW based to AOSP (in several variations). I've tried reflashing (and I've done nothing but clean flashes each time I'm flashing anything). If it matters, my normal method is to wipe data/factory reset, then clear cache and dalvik, then install ROM + gapps, and then reboot.
I'm using CWM touch recovery v6.0.2.3, firmware VRBMF1 (and one or two others), and have tried leankernel in addition to stock kernels.
It may be worth mentioning that this is a refurbished device and I used Casual's One Click Root, whereas previously (Jan 2013) I rooted the long way and had no issues with anything really.
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I had the same problem with my phone, I made a thread a little while ago with what I did. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2492304 ask any questions you have on there I want to improve it as this was a very frustrating and time consuming fix for me.
Hey guys, i'm posting here because I have a huge issue with my phone.
I think I have an idea of what caused my phone to go haywire, but i'm gonna post my phone specs:
Red Nexus 5 32gb
Rooted
Franco Kernel
4.4.2 (however, I think it may have somehow updated to 4.4.3 OTA somehow, which may be the root of the problems)
TWRP
Nandroid backup but done once i've been experiencing these problems
-The phone boots up normally and then abrubtly freezes.
-The dialogue "Unfortunately, the process com.android.systemui has stopped."
-I press ok, the screen turns black
-"Unfortunately, Update Device has stopped"
-I press ok, shortly after, both prompts pop up again repeatedly.
I literally have no way to get to the home menu, even using Safe Mode.
My main priority is to at least recover my SMS files. And obviously fix my phone..
NotReallyKnown said:
Hey guys, i'm posting here because I have a huge issue with my phone.
I think I have an idea of what caused my phone to go haywire, but i'm gonna post my phone specs:
Red Nexus 5 32gb
Rooted
Franco Kernel
4.4.2 (however, I think it may have somehow updated to 4.4.3 OTA somehow, which may be the root of the problems)
TWRP
Nandroid backup but done once i've been experiencing these problems
-The phone boots up normally and then abrubtly freezes.
-The dialogue "Unfortunately, the process com.android.systemui has stopped."
-I press ok, the screen turns black
-"Unfortunately, Update Device has stopped"
-I press ok, shortly after, both prompts pop up again repeatedly.
I literally have no way to get to the home menu, even using Safe Mode.
My main priority is to at least recover my SMS files. And obviously fix my phone..
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reflash your rom, or flash another rom. if using stock, you can reflash the factory img or find a rooted stock rom. anyways, you DO want to update to 444, as many bugs have been fixed from 442 to 444. if yoy dont want to lose any data, grab a stock rooted rom and flash it dirty, as in dont wipe a single thing. and your phone can not update itself, only you can let it update. and with you using franco kernel, it can not flash an ota, you would have to do it manually.
simms22 said:
reflash your rom, or flash another rom. if using stock, you can reflash the factory img or find a rooted stock rom. anyways, you DO want to update to 444, as many bugs have been fixed from 442 to 444. if yoy dont want to lose any data, grab a stock rooted rom and flash it dirty, as in dont wipe a single thing. and your phone can not update itself, only you can let it update. and with you using franco kernel, it can not flash an ota, you would have to do it manually.
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Do you mind linking me a good thread on how to dirty flash a rom? I've been looking all over and i'm getting a lot of results that simply don't work.
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Nevermind, found out how to use adb. Can you at least tell me where the SMS files are stored? I used Textra.
NotReallyKnown said:
Do you mind linking me a good thread on how to dirty flash a rom? I've been looking all over and i'm getting a lot of results that simply don't work.
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Nevermind, found out how to use adb. Can you at least tell me where the SMS files are stored? I used Textra.
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well, theres no such thing. as most everyone will tell you the proper way is to clean flash, you wont find a dirty flashing thread. regardless, im known for my dirty flashing of everything. generally, what you do to dirty flash is make a backup in recovery first, then just flash what you need to flash, without wiping anything. the thing about dirty flashing is that you dont lose any data(while clean flashing you do).
where the sms files are stored, i have no idea. have you checked if your sms app created a file?
simms22 said:
well, theres no such thing. as most everyone will tell you the proper way is to clean flash, you wont find a dirty flashing thread. regardless, im known for my dirty flashing of everything. generally, what you do to dirty flash is make a backup in recovery first, then just flash what you need to flash, without wiping anything. the thing about dirty flashing is that you dont lose any data(while clean flashing you do).
where the sms files are stored, i have no idea. have you checked if your sms app created a file?
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So what I should do is push the rooted stock rom somewhere into my phone and use TWRP to install it straight?
NotReallyKnown said:
So what I should do is push the rooted stock rom somewhere into my phone and use TWRP to install it straight?
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right. adb push it to your phone, then flash it in twrp. if the dirty flash doesnt work out(chances are that it will) then you would have to wipe data(factory reset) and reflash.
simms22 said:
right. adb push it to your phone, then flash it in twrp. if the dirty flash doesnt work out(chances are that it will) then you would have to wipe data(factory reset) and reflash.
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You are a f**king god. It worked perfectly! Thank you so much!
Why isn't Dirty Flashing suggested by most?
NotReallyKnown said:
You are a f**king god. It worked perfectly! Thank you so much!
Why isn't Dirty Flashing suggested by most?
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because most follow older "proper" ways to flash software. and the proper way to flash, and to make sure all is working as should, is to clean flash. dirty flashing can cause issues, but its issues that are usually fixable. the problem is that most dont know that, or how to fix. 99.99% of issues caused by dirty flashing are caused by corrupt or incompatible data. where a data clearing for that particular app will usually fix. anyways, roms based on the same sourcw, and not far from what you are running, you can dirty flash. roms that have a different base than what you are running, you should factory reset first.
Dirty flashing has the potential of causing conflicts and issues. Of course it is not so bad if you back up your data. One problem though, is you might use your phone for a few weeks before the issues show up, then suddenly you are unable to backup data. So you lost a week or two of stuff.
By the way, I often dirty flash when I run into issues. After that though, it is a good idea to back everything up, wipe, and reflash everything. Limits potential issues arising and also causes of said issues.
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Dirty flashing has the potential of causing conflicts and issues. Of course it is not so bad if you back up your data. One problem though, is you might use your phone for a few weeks before the issues show up, then suddenly you are unable to backup data. So you lost a week or two of stuff.
By the way, I often dirty flash when I run into issues. After that though, it is a good idea to back everything up, wipe, and reflash everything. Limits potential issues arising and also causes of said issues.
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issues from dirty flashing do not appear weeks later, dirty flashing issues show up right away. all dirty flashing issues are caused by data, whether corrupt or incompatible. other issues are blamed on dirty flashes, but arent the real cause. issues like app fc's are the most common, and very fixable. the only issues that arent fixable are when you dirtt flash two completely different roms that are based on different sources, or different android versions. i have dirty flashed every single thing ive flashed onto my n5, since december, no issues. the only issue i had dirty flashing my n5 was dirty flashing L over rastakat. and the issue was minor. everything worked great except the status bar didnt go down all the way. why did it mess uo? because of incompatible data from rastakat with the new status bar code in L.
You are correct Simms, but it must be noted that you dirty flash the same version, for dirty flash to work. If just updating a rom it is usually fine, but if they have made a major change then it is not.
Have no tales to tell of my N5, but my Samcrap S3 (cracked the screen and she died, then I bought this bad boy ) had issues that would appear later. Maybe due to the dirty flash. Who knows, that is why I mentioned a clean flash rules that out.
Anyway, backing up everything leads to a carefree life!