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Does anyone know why (or even better have a fix for) using QTV as video output in CorePlayer when using later ROM revisions just result in a black screen?
I've posted a bug report to CorePlayer but they're usually pretty slow handling these help requests...
BTW CorePlayer 1.2.4 featuring FLV-support is out since may 7th. Haven't seen anyone over in the Kaiser forums commenting on it yet.
Im running Duttys Apr29th and I have the same problem with Core1.2.4 in QTV
No problems here even though using the same ROM (Dutty' apr29th) and version of Coreplayer.
You get a black screen even though using the standard settings in Coreplayer? Weird...
undac said:
Does anyone know why (or even better have a fix for) using QTV as video output in CorePlayer when using later ROM revisions just result in a black screen?
I've posted a bug report to CorePlayer but they're usually pretty slow handling these help requests...
BTW CorePlayer 1.2.4 featuring FLV-support is out since may 7th. Haven't seen anyone over in the Kaiser forums commenting on it yet.
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I'm not sure why, but I believe that's the case as well with the two newest AT&T Roms. There appears to be no QTV support in those ROMS. However, there appears to be substantially improved DirectDraw support in those Roms so I guess that's the tradeoff.
No QTV support in the last two ATT based ROMs (and all cooked ROMs built from these bases). However, DirectDraw performance is significantly improved in these ROMs. I see nearly identical CorePlayer benchmark results when comparing scores from earlier ROMs with QTV support and these two latest ATT ROMs using CorePlayer and DirectDraw. See for yourself.
Another obervation...
CorePlayer still suffers from gross vertical tearing in fast motion scenes when playing MP4 (and variants) encoded video on the new ATT ROMs
Try the following...
Flash the latest ATT ROM. Play MP4 video content that contains fast motion scenes with the stock WMP. No vertical tearing. Install the latest CorePlayer release. Play again. Observe vertical tearing.
WMP, in the latest ATT ROMs now equals or outperforms CorePlayer when playing H.264 or MP4 content. See for yourself. Don't take my word.
are these the latest roms that support the bitbit acceleration ?
undac said:
Does anyone know why (or even better have a fix for) using QTV as video output in CorePlayer when using later ROM revisions just result in a black screen?
I've posted a bug report to CorePlayer but they're usually pretty slow handling these help requests...
BTW CorePlayer 1.2.4 featuring FLV-support is out since may 7th. Haven't seen anyone over in the Kaiser forums commenting on it yet.
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same problem here on L26 v9, and any new ROMs I've used. And I have witneesed the tearing issues with Core as well. DirectDraw is improved but not as good as QTV IMHO.
am using core player 1.2.5 and running perfect
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No QTV support in the last two ATT based ROMs (and all cooked ROMs built from these bases). However, DirectDraw performance is significantly improved in these ROMs. I see nearly identical CorePlayer benchmark results when comparing scores from earlier ROMs with QTV support and these two latest ATT ROMs using CorePlayer and DirectDraw. See for yourself.
Another obervation...
CorePlayer still suffers from gross vertical tearing in fast motion scenes when playing MP4 (and variants) encoded video on the new ATT ROMs
Try the following...
Flash the latest ATT ROM. Play MP4 video content that contains fast motion scenes with the stock WMP. No vertical tearing. Install the latest CorePlayer release. Play again. Observe vertical tearing.
WMP, in the latest ATT ROMs now equals or outperforms CorePlayer when playing H.264 or MP4 content. See for yourself. Don't take my word.
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We are looking into the Diamond and relate vertical tearing issue... also on WMP.... I'd like to see benchmarks to confirm this as 'I' find that statement very hard to believe.
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We are looking into the Diamond and relate vertical tearing issue... also on WMP.... I'd like to see benchmarks to confirm this as 'I' find that statement very hard to believe.
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WMP comments were confined to several AT&T "official" test ROMS that leaked in May. These ROMs did not support QTv. They did, however, exibit HTC's Kaiser video performance improvements that were built into WM6.1.
Coreplayer was suffering from vertical tearing when playing some MP4 content without the QTv support on the AT&T ROMS. H.264 was (is)always better with Coreplayer.
Coreplayer is superior to WMP. That's why I purchased it and use it daily. I now have QTv support again in my current ROMs (see sig) and the same MP4 content plays just fine. Sorry for causing any confusion.
However, Coreplayer is not perfect. I stream gigabytes of video via Orb each month and must use TCPMP as the player. When do you anticipate that Coreplayer will support Orb streaming? Frankly, I don't know that Orb is doing anything unusual. Any ideas?
I occasionally check the Coreplayer forums and see that you are still deflecting these questions concerning Orb. Anything definitive would be appreciated.
Thanks
On your points:
- Official 'ORB' support in CorePlayer is coming... and yes we have held off for over 2 years to add it support for it as we felt it was best handled as an internal channel. Which I have noted here is coming in 1.3.x
- As noted in my last post we are addressing the vertical tearing
- On the Diamond... we have a surprise coming for everyone ;-)
On a side note for ORB... and channels in general.... the biggest hurdle for us was to add one last element, 'Progressive Downloading Support'. This is the one last component for us to add into the platform to give channels the robustness that ppl have been asking for.
Any more recent updates on this? Is qtv supported in the most recent att6.1/diamond based cooked roms? Does it really help/work well?
Orb as in orb.com? It works for me and I'm using 1.2.5. I just wish there was a progress bar or a percentage of buffering. Videos take a while to start loading but an mp3 only takes about 8 seconds from the time Coreplayer opens.
That would be amazing if there was "official" support for it though as orb.com is amazing!!!! And by official support, do you mean it will have it's own interface within Coreplayer kind of like how you guys have a Youtube window? That would be unreal!!!!!!!
Also, a little googling and poking around the CorePlayer forums yield this:
"CE/Windows Mobile/PocketPC/Smartphone
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- Does not support the Qualcomm MSM7200 QTv chipset (we only support the MSM7500)"
I found some benchmarks (on xda-developers) from WinMo 6.0 that show a big improvement with qtv, but also have heard (unsubstantiated however) that apparently the new 6.1 roms have built in acceleration using qtv.
So are there any other players or versions of CorePlayer that do support qtv? Or for that matter anyone with some good insight into what qtv can actually do to help us?
Hy guys,
Just to know, I'm coming from my trusty Eten M700. I bought the HTC Touch Pro about one week ago here, in Romania.
And I must say the video playback seems way too sluggish for a phone like this. On the M700, with same coreplayer version (latest), with raw frame buffer and medium quality and no other modification I could play every video I wanted. Including 720x576 xvid clips.
On this one...no matter what I set (QTV, raw frame buffer, direct draw), everything seems a little too sluggish compared to M700.
do you have the same impression, or is it just me?
I just read another thread here about video performance but it had too much dissipated info.
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Hy guys,
Just to know, I'm coming from my trusty Eten M700. I bought the HTC Touch Pro about one week ago here, in Romania.
And I must say the video playback seems way too sluggish for a phone like this. On the M700, with same coreplayer version (latest), with raw frame buffer and medium quality and no other modification I could play every video I wanted. Including 720x576 xvid clips.
On this one...no matter what I set (QTV, raw frame buffer, direct draw), everything seems a little too sluggish compared to M700.
do you have the same impression, or is it just me?
I just read another thread here about video performance but it had too much dissipated info.
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Which is why it's great that you started a new thread to dissipate the info further. Read the other thread(s) again, this has already been answered and solved within coreplayer.
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Which is why it's great that you started a new thread to dissipate the info further. Read the other thread(s) again, this has already been answered and solved within coreplayer.
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which topic is it? i have smilar issues
Untill now I have found that QTV with Medium acceleration, and dither on has the best performance, anyway less than m700. Setting the buffer to 8000 kb did not had any effect. Still want to hear from another pro owners what they think about this.
I agree, video playback just sucks! I hate Qualcomm processors, Xscale rulezzz!
However when I put QTv, my screen goes black and there's only sound.
How did you achieve to run it on QTv???
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I agree, video playback just sucks! I hate Qualcomm processors, Xscale rulezzz!
However when I put QTv, my screen goes black and there's only sound.
How did you achieve to run it on QTv???
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It depends on what kind of file you want to play with it. On mine, some 3gp and some clips compressed for mobile devices don't show anything on screen. Try to switch to raw frame buffer, and restart core player, maybe it helps?
Unfortunately the HTC Touch Pro is not the mulitmedia phone you want if your looking to run your non-mobile encoded videos. However it still can be a awesome video player if you encode videos to the right dimension and specs.
I took this past Sunday to play around with finding just the right video format and encode settings to play video as close to vga as possible. Unfortunately the Touch Pro can't play videos in full-vga resolution. HOWEVER, it can perfectly play videos in 480x320 which when you compare to a 640x480 video on the touch pro's 2.5inch screen there is no difference in quality what so ever.
When you play small videos on such a small screen you wont notice the difference in the resolution, however comparing a qvga (320x240) to the half vga 480x320 resolution you can definitely see a difference.
I use two different encoders, one being pocket divx encoder and the other videora iphone converter.
I encoded a bunch of animes and movies using pocket divx set to 480x320, 2-Pass, vhq enabled, around 850 video bitrate and 128kb stereo bitrate and all my videos look crisp on the Touch Pro and plays smoothly.
I suggest others to try it out and benchmark the playback yourself and you'll see it'll run at a easy 135%+ which is perfect for 100% smooth playback.
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It depends on what kind of file you want to play with it. On mine, some 3gp and some clips compressed for mobile devices don't show anything on screen. Try to switch to raw frame buffer, and restart core player, maybe it helps?
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1.) I suggest check two things, one be sure you are running the latest build which I assume you are,
2) under preferences and under the Qtv page look to make sure "Tytn 2 driver mode" is enabled.
3) some builds have a issue of zoomed in pictures to a an extreme amount that only a black screen shows when first installed, set the zoom to 50% and then reset to the normal or best fit.
Hopefully those changes should help you out
UPDATE: Also there is one bug I know of with Coreplayer. When coreplayer is launched and left running in the back (or if still active on screen) should the device go into sleep mode and then come back you will not be able to see any video playing when choosing to start. You'll have to close coreplayer and reopen again, I noticed this the other day and just came into mind when experiencing just now again.
I almost agree with you puerrican but I think it's such a burden to reencode....I managed to get easy after I saw that everything encoded with h264, mkv and encoders like this can't be played in the pro. However, everything I had in my computer encoded in divx, xvid, normal things works just fine with the settings I put in some posts above. I just tried 700 MB DVDrip(around 1000 kbit/s and 640x272) and some videoclip(624x352 vbr around 2300kbits) both xvid and they worked ok. 688x400 AVC1 (h264) killed the pro.It's not just the resolution but also the encoder used.
EDIT: just saw the update and I wanted to mention that I'm also using the 1.2.5 build 4506 with tytn 2 mode enabled and qtv on medium selected. And touchflo3d is disabled and I'm using the spb shell (or something like that with icons on screen).
IDEA: I think it would be interesting playing back xvid 640x480 and h264 640x480 to test this idea of mine
Definitely it is pain to go and do that. Plus reencoding speed relies heavily on your pc specs, on a high end specs your looking at around 4-5 mins for a 2-pass encoded video of 24 min length. While a movie length of 90 mins or so your looking at at least 16-22 mins.
So expect much longer wait on a lower end thats not even dual core or lower clock rate.
Until pdas start sporting dedicated gpus from nvidia or other names windows mobile wont ever benefit on being a media playback alternative which is a nice plus for those not looking to carry 2-3 devices for music, pmp, pda, and phone. Wish HTC would look into intel processors for their next unit and possibly throw in a nvidia mobile gpu like the 5500 with a decent amount of video memory. I mean at this point in the technology chain its not even remotely impossible to do so... so whats the hold up with companies???
yeah, i have no problem with mp4 at 640x480 (640x360 widescreen). mkv at high res (above 640x480) is a little juttery. my movies are usually 24fps, 1000kbps, 640x360
got same settings as gigs
coreplayer is working on fix for v1.3
I'm at a lost, I tried playing 640x480 videos on my touch pro and it stutters way too much, how are you guys managing to have to it playback flawlessly?
I dont really get whats good about watching movies on a 2.5 inch screen...do you do that on such a regular basis that this is so important ?
Regarding Video, i just watch some short youtube clips and stuff like that...
Ever tried to watch a full length movie on such a small screen ? I did that on holiday on my ipod and its really hurting the eyes to concetrate on such a small screen for 90+ minutes... not really anything you want to do regularly...besides not reencoded videos take up alot of space on your memorystick...
i dont have a problem with reencoding some videos and stuff, full length movies arent meant to be watched on a phone anyway
Well, a 2,5 inch screen is a bit too small, but our Touch Pros have a 2,8 inch screen
I have a zune and it has a 3 in screen and was perfect for watching tv videos or movies, and thats half the resolution then a TP. Cant wait to get my hand on the TP !!!
To each his own, some ppl like being able to watch videos whenever the call comes. Sometimes when I have to wait for something like a class to start or I'm away from my pc, or even on a airplane or public transportation I like to be able to watch few episodes easily and clearly. A full blown movie yea its gonna be a nuisance for a long time depending on the person. But some are accustomed to it, I for one can easily watch 4-6 episodes in a row without getting any kind of headahce.
yep, its quite convient. all in one device. it has tv out as well, so since it is simalar res to tv, it looks great
music + movies on phone, no ned for mp3 player. plus i can stream movies off my pc
yeah i see that there is room for this, but i dont think many people use this so regulary that converting a few movies is that much of a pain. You will save a lot of space on your memorystick as well.
I have modifying 2 regentries and the video is now much better.
Look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=438318
Using CorePlayer the benchmark was before 75-95%,now 145%. on same videofile - Uncompressed VGA XviD.
Edit... I am sorry. It wasn't working. I just forgot,that I set the video quality to medium before.
You have to chose Medium Quality on Video Settings (with Qtv selected), otherwise it lags so much ..
Even on medium on motion scenses some frame drops
Video used for tests: RL_XQ_640x480_1500_128.avi (found somewhere here on this forum.. can't remember the topic name )
I have constructed some video tests and the preliminary data I am getting back is that the Touch Pro is not great when it comes to video playback. Not at the moment anyway. Though my tests were done with the latest Coreplayer I would extrapolate that the results are indicative of the overall video performance irrespective of the player used.
File 1: Mpeg-4 ASP Xvid 320x160 287 kbps
File 2: Mpeg-4 ASP Xvid 640x320 479 kbps
File 3: Mpeg-4 AVC x264 320x160 200 kbps
File 4: Mpeg-4 AVC x264 640x320 400 kbps
All audio is AAC 24 KHz 64 kbps.
Device: HTC Raphael
CPU&Clock: Qualcomm MSM7201A 528MHz
GPU: N/A (integrated ARM926EJ-S [email protected])
ROM: WM6.1 FireROM v0.3
File 1: 205.40%
File 2: 126.52%
File 3: 159.63%
File 4: 68.29%
Device: HTC Hermes
CPU&Clock: Samsung SC32442A ARM 400MHz
GPU: ATI Imageon 2282
ROM: WM6.1 PDACornerPro v25 RBSN
File 1: 387%
File 2: 140%
File 3: 114%
File 4: 34%
I don't know how much the video performance can be improved with newer ROMS or optimised software but I think it will take a while before any drastic improvements are seen, if ever. I have the video files available for those would like to test this for themselves and can PM the links. They short clips might be considered copyrighted so I will not post them.
Hmm
I have some DVD rips which were encoded for use on the Sony PSP, with the following attributes:
Format: MPEG4
Video: AVC aka H.264
Video Size: 480 x 272
Frame Rate: 29.970
Audio: MPEG4 AAC Audio
Audio Format: 96000Hz 2 Ch
I figured it'd be useful to be able to play those rips on my TP, so I tried it using Coreplayer v1.2.5.
There was no sound - I cannot fix this and have raised a ticket with Coreplayer support.
Nevertheless, the benchmark gave an average speed of 101.90% so that's not too bad.
Has anyone else tried these types of files on their TP using Coreplayer? Have you managed to get any sound?
The thread title should be changed into:
"Don't expect great video from CorePlayer on your Raphael."
The problem is not the Raphael. The problem is the CorePlayer! At least when playing MP4 files. I've tested several MP4 files and the CorePlayer is playing them choppy while the WMP Mobile has no problems!
As I've posted in the topic with touch pro issues:
poor directdraw, framebuffer/video performance.
Just to make an idea: an old device from 2005 with omap 850 200mhz CPU performs better in this area than the touch pro @ qualcomm 528mhz. what a shame. The test were done in this topic (in romanian, sorry). CorePlayer was used for benchmark. I will summarize.
- HTC Tornado overclocked (262Mhz) max performance: 174.22%
- Touch Pro max performance: 172,67%
Both in Raw framebuffer mode. When used QTV it gains only 162,64%. How come?
It's pitty, 262Mhz from OMAP performs better than 528!!!Mhz from Qualcomm?!
The video used for tests is this one. (320x240 @ 25FPS)
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Of course, this may be fixed with software optimization.. But it's kinda annoying that the existing 3rd-party doesn't work so well..
I saw in a romanian review that touch pro is under diamond at Graphics index.
diamond: 1662.31
touch pro: 357.03
more: http://www.chip.ro/stiri/hardware/review:_htc_touch_pro/22135 (go to bottom)
peterbonge said:
The thread title should be changed into:
"Don't expect great video from CorePlayer on your Raphael."
The problem is not the Raphael. The problem is the CorePlayer! At least when playing MP4 files. I've tested several MP4 files and the CorePlayer is playing them choppy while the WMP Mobile has no problems!
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All the .mp4 files I transcoded played fine in Coreplayer. The container (.mp4, .avi) is not the problem it's what is inside. Anything benchmarking over a 100% will play smoothly. I will PM you the links to my clips and you can tell me how they all play in both WMP and Coreplayer.
DSF said:
touch pro is under diamond at Graphics index.
diamond: 1662.31
touch pro: 357.03
more: http://www.chip.ro/stiri/hardware/review:_htc_touch_pro/22135 (go to bottom)
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This is concerning. I want a device where I don't have to worry about converting video any more.
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All the .mp4 files I transcoded played fine in Coreplayer. The container (.mp4, .avi) is not the problem it's what is inside. Anything benchmarking over a 100% will play smoothly. I will PM you the links to my clips and you can tell me how they all play in both WMP and Coreplayer.
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With WMP the first two are running fine, the last two have just sound without a picture. The codec (H.264/MPEG-4 AVC) is not the problem because I have many vids with this codec running fine.
I don't have the time to test the files with the CorePlayer at the moment, but here are the specs of a file which runs choppy with the CorePlayer, but fine with the WMP:
Video: avc1 / H.264/MPEG-4 AVC / 480 x 360 / 509 kbps / 29.971 fps
Audio: mp4a: MPEG-4 AAC LC / 44100Hz 123 kbps, stereo
The problem of the current releases of coreplayer is that the QTV driver provided is not the one for the MSM7201A processor; it's the one of the TyTnII (MSM7200 If I'm not mistaken).
To fully exploit the "graphic accelerator" of our TPs I think we'll have to wait for an optimized version of coreplayer for our HTCs (coreplayer 1.3 as anounced in their website, as they say that a version optimized for Touchs will be released soon).
I've contacted HTC support about video performance.
Answer in short: "The Touch Pro is not made for playing Media. It was made as a business device."
TyTN was made as a business device and included ATI Imageon GPU.
Hmm...guess I learnt something new today. I always thought hardware wise the Touch Pro would be the same if not better than Diamond, i.e. whatever videos the Diamond can play, the Touh Pro can do just as well. But looking at the site provided in Mike's post, I'm guessing that's not the case.
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Hmm...guess I learnt something new today. I always thought hardware wise the Touch Pro would be the same if not better than Diamond, i.e. whatever videos the Diamond can play, the Touh Pro can do just as well. But looking at the site provided in Mike's post, I'm guessing that's not the case.
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I really think there's some kind of error regarding graphics benchmark results there, since Touch Pro has the same CPU, the same 3D accelerator and more RAM !
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I really think there's some kind of error regarding graphics benchmark results there, since Touch Pro has the same CPU, the same 3D accelerator and more RAM !
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Someone could give it a try with another video. I don't have a TP yet ot I'd try it.
Basically I want to be able to throw a 600mb, VGA resolution file from my computer straight onto an SD card and watch it on the go without having to bother about conversions. Is this not possible?
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Someone could give it a try with another video. I don't have a TP yet ot I'd try it.
Basically I want to be able to throw a 600mb, VGA resolution file from my computer straight onto an SD card and watch it on the go without having to bother about conversions. Is this not possible?
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I havent tried this yet, but I will once I get back home tomorrow.. Would be awesome if that worked!
EDIT: Loading in a episode of Dexter (original release, DVDScr.XVID) on, and installing TCMP.. Il post results!
Loaded "Dexter.S03E01.DVDScr.XviD-NOTYOU.avi" onto my memory card and played it in TCPMP and it worked more or less flawlessly!! No need to worry about playback performance! Although to get 100% perfect playback, it should be converted or something as the playback did suffer som slight stutters from time to time.
EDIT: The only thing this device suffers from in terms of video playback is 65k colors.
err that's weird look at the results posted at these sites:
http://img2.portavik.net/upload/file_23/37bd53de9a906fe4/table_bench.gif
and this one:
http://www.ferra.ru/online/communicators/80844/ (in the middle of a page SPB test
Guys sorry, but what are u trying to play in Raphael, that this device is not so powerful for you?
I watched almost 20 movies (DivX for PC) / series on Raphael and withou any problem. Video is smooth, great and thats it...
P.S. I am watching movies on CorePlayer
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Guys sorry, but what are u trying to play in Raphael, that this device is not so powerful for you?
I watched almost 20 movies (DivX for PC) / series on Raphael and withou any problem. Video is smooth, great and thats it...
P.S. I am watching movies on CorePlayer
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When I tried to load up Dexter.S03E01.DVDScr.XviD-NOTYOU with CorePlayer, I only got audio, no video... But TCPMP worked quite well..
yeah im searching for proper video settings to convert files to for my device using catalyst or pocketdivx encoder, still searching on that one.
but then i tried just throwing my original episode of entourage and yeah it looks awesome., will probably do that more often with the faster file transfer and once i get a bigger sd card.
The firmware drivers do need a bit of work and coreplayer 1.2.5 doesn't fully support the touch pro as the makers have made clear.
I would suggest waiting for coreplayer 1.3 and maybe a few newer ROMs before giving final judgement, though Qtv specs on the qualcom chips do say it maxes out at 640x480 15-30fps 384kbps if i remember right.
FYI: Qtv is a software codec specifically designed for maximum performance on the 7201a chipset used by the touch pro. This is what coreplayer does not fully support yet (unlike on the TyTN).
Also, regarding HTC's response, why don't you ask the same question again but about the Touch Diamond, as it's not a business device.
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What 3D accelerator does the Pro/Diamond use? What chip?
AS after searching and doing for last two years i now come to a conclusion that wm sucks on mp4 video..
no matter we use coreplayer ir wmp..
any solution?
What resolution, bitrate, type of videofile(not mp4, thats just a container) I've actually had some very good experiences playing many mp4 files back on my ipaq 210 at around vga, all work flawlessly. Maybe time to upgrade your elfin?
blame qualcomm or texas instruments for their technology
intel is better still
Think that it's more to do with how you encode your movies rather than WM as i recode to .mp4 and have good quality on all devices via CorePlayer, Wanted\Ghost In The Shell 2 Innocence\Sky Blue to which are what i tend to test a new phone with all running perfect.
I use DVD Catalyst or FLVtoAVI "the name means nothing does everything" depends on device.
Resolution of device, keeping same fps as source, keeping the audio bitrate down to save space as it's easier then for phone to read less in chunks, then video bitrate.
Once you find the optimum settings for your software then it's all plane sailing
Your device is slow CPU wise same as Excalibur so can't expect amazing results and having a faster CPU makes a lot of difference when movies concerned.
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Think that it's more to do with how you encode your movies rather than WM as i recode to .mp4 and have good quality on all devices via CorePlayer, Wanted\Ghost In The Shell 2 Innocence\Sky Blue to which are what i tend to test a new phone with all running perfect.
I use DVD Catalyst or FLVtoAVI "the name means nothing does everything" depends on device.
Resolution of device, keeping same fps as source, keeping the audio bitrate down to save space as it's easier then for phone to read less in chunks, then video bitrate.
Once you find the optimum settings for your software then it's all plane sailing
Your device is slow CPU wise same as Excalibur so can't expect amazing results and having a faster CPU makes a lot of difference when movies concerned.
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hummmm.
ok.i have download a video "street fighters 4 gameplay" from savevidcom which give option to dwnld as flv,mp4,hd...
now my benchmark for that video from coreplayer is like this.
frame rate 29.996
sample rate 441000
data rate 653kbit/s
What resolution is that running at? And is it any faster. I personally use avidemux to convert videos because its free and has tons of options. Another thing to try is to convert it with 23fps, can't even tell the difference
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hummmm.
ok.i have download a video "street fighters 4 gameplay" from savevidcom which give option to dwnld as flv,mp4,hd...
now my benchmark for that video from coreplayer is like this.
frame rate 29.996
sample rate 441000
data rate 653kbit/s
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Thing is benchmark doesn't show quality as such will show how well your device will play the file but the original source file or recode file will be the quality depending on settings many of the movies on sites to show game play etc are very low quality mainly due to bandwidth.
Only wish i could capture my Touch Pro playing 9 as the quality is awesome
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Thing is benchmark doesn't show quality as such will show how well your device will play the file but the original source file or recode file will be the quality depending on settings many of the movies on sites to show game play etc are very low quality mainly due to bandwidth.
Only wish i could capture my Touch Pro playing 9 as the quality is awesome
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looks like no solution for elfin..
okn will buy touch pro then....
Don't know about you guys but Coreplayer plays mp4 fine on my diamond
windowsphone said:
Don't know about you guys but Coreplayer plays mp4 fine on my diamond
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try ur wmp...
oik..go to savevid.com downld any video u like in mp4 format and then see.
u can tell us ur coreplayer settings??!)D
Using a pc program "mediainfo" I noticed the 3D video encoding has changed from the codec used in gingerbread. The codec is now listed as iso which is common enough, but the codec also uses "frame tripling". The frame rate is 30fps so are we getting a 30fps with 3 frames making 1, effectively 90fps or 10fps with 3 frames duplicated to "make" 30fps.
The new 3D files cause windows explorer to continually try to analyse the mp4 files and will not automatically unmount the sd card as it is continually trying to recognize the file. The same problem also when the 3D videos are transferred to PC and the folder is viewed in explorer, cannot even re-name them with a different extension to stop the lock-ups.
Sorry to say, but 90 fps is not even true. The S3D hardware is limited to only TWO images, so it's basically split-image, either 30fps or 60fps, both left and right images. If you try 90fps, you will have image ghosting which the transparent ceramic plate is timed wrongly against video frames or worse - you will see flashing or wavy patterns which will cause you the headache. And, LCD is normally locked at 60 hertzs, as is the case with non-3D LCDs.
EDIT: The file is basically a MP4 file - with some capable media players, probably like VLC player, it will display two "squeezed" images as seen by two cameras on the 3D phone.
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I didn't have a problem moving or viewing the 3D files created in gingerbread. It seems the new codec used by ICS is causing windows problems as the codec is not recognized, windows just keeps trying to update the thumnails on the sd card when connected via usb or when removed and in a sd card reader.
Just wondered if anyone has found a way round this problem.
The "frame tripling" that is reported in the pc program {mediainfo} is a part of the codec description and cannot seem to find any mention of it in this forum.
Interesting... I have a modified ICS version of 3D camera, modified for CM10 - will try this. BTW, I don't like using thumbnail feature on Windows - nothing but a PITA.
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Hmmm. I have Nvidia 3d vision and drivers on my pc and I can watch video directly over hdmi and copy them, etc. Maybe you need the Nvidia drivers???
Or updated Catalyst for AMD Radeon HD 4k or later. I have Radeon 4670, BTW. It's still a great general-purpose video card.
However, I don't have a 3D monitor. Definitely outside of my budget.
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The "lockup" of file monitoring in widows7 for this new codec is not my main concern,annoying as it may be. I am worried about the mediainfo report of the frame mode is "frame tripling". my own research has been that 3D capture on a 3D camera by panasonic or philips or someone ACTUALLY records at 10fps and each frame is then repeated 3 times to give a 30fps video file This would give a poor motion quality video. I need to confirm that ALL o3D ICS updates have the same frame tripling video recording, as I have some "issues" with my upgrade in other software since upgrading to ICS .If the video recorded by the ICS upgrade is in fact 10fps and multiplied x3 then it is a novelty and not really persuing 3D by upgrading PC or TV to view real 3D.
Thanks for your reply's so far.
Still interesting, however. 10 fps seems slow but here, the first ever stereoscopic 3D camcorders have slower in-order processors, BTW - not as advanced as what's in our phones. So, in reality 90 fps is actually viewable as 30 fps when the 3D LCD timing is factored here.
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Sorry but don't understand the explanation or translation into english,
keith210350 said:
The "lockup" of file monitoring in widows7 for this new codec is not my main concern,annoying as it may be. I am worried about the mediainfo report of the frame mode is "frame tripling". my own research has been that 3D capture on a 3D camera by panasonic or philips or someone ACTUALLY records at 10fps and each frame is then repeated 3 times to give a 30fps video file This would give a poor motion quality video. I need to confirm that ALL o3D ICS updates have the same frame tripling video recording, as I have some "issues" with my upgrade in other software since upgrading to ICS .If the video recorded by the ICS upgrade is in fact 10fps and multiplied x3 then it is a novelty and not really persuing 3D by upgrading PC or TV to view real 3D.
Thanks for your reply's so far.
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Indeed "TriDef Media Player" installed with my LG3D monitor can't play 3D movies from ICS but 2D is able to play.
"Stereo Movie Player" http://stereo.jpn.org/eng/index.html can't play 3D from ICS too.
Only "Stereoscopic Player" http://www.3dtv.at/Index_en.aspx can play that video.
Nvidia 3D Vision drivers work for me, but if you have an AMD GPU it may be different.
OK, works very well for me too.
After I uninstalled ffdshow