[Fixed] feature to generate thumbnails but not save them on the cache - MX Player

Hi, I would like to request a simple feature that allows a user to generate/view thumbnails when browsing for videos but also have the option to NOT save them permanently on storage via the cache folder /android/data/com.mxtech.videoplayer/cache/image?
Thanks a bunch!
Thanks for providing the best video player ever, even vlc cant touch mxplayer on the android platform! :good:

You can clear the thumbnail cache in Settings -> General -> Clear thumbnail cache

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I want this functionality on my music players.. I hate cache and how it screws up all my album art. Thinking about modding Android's media storage.apk to not store cache. Glad I'm not the only one.!
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Ah, I get what you guys are asking now. I guess one temporary hack around would be to change the permissions of that folder so that nothing can write to it.

CDB-Man said:
Ah, I get what you guys are asking now. I guess one temporary hack around would be to change the permissions of that folder so that nothing can write to it.
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OMG! GOOD IDEA WILL TRY !!!
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CDB-Man said:
Ah, I get what you guys are asking now. I guess one temporary hack around would be to change the permissions of that folder so that nothing can write to it.
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Thanks for your reply!
I tried changing the write permission with root browser and (I made sure I had root access) but it says
"Error Changing permissions was not successful. Please note that some file systems do not allow permission changes."
I have the the S4-i545 MK2 4.3 JellyBean rooted with saferoot

Would clearing cache in MX settings on exit accomplish the same thing? Or, could you have a .nomedia file in the MX cache folder so that your media players skip over it, or specify the cache folder as excluded from scanning?
Re the first post's original request, @bleu8888 please take a look.

tatertots216 said:
Hi, I would like to request a simple feature that allows a user to generate/view thumbnails when browsing for videos but also have the option to NOT save them permanently on storage via the cache folder /android/data/com.mxtech.videoplayer/cache/image?
Thanks a bunch!
Thanks for providing the best video player ever, even vlc cant touch mxplayer on the android platform! :good:
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I don't know the intention behind your request. But, it will impact the player performance much when you have lot of videos. Whenever you open MX Player it will take some time to regenerate thumbnail for all available videos.
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ktsamy said:
I don't know the intention behind your request. But, it will impact the player performance much when you have lot of videos. Whenever you open MX Player it will take some time to regenerate thumbnail for all available videos..
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It's a very very grave breach of my privacy, and my human rights!
On a seriously note, it's about having the medium ground between privacy and convenience. (I could just as easily suspend thumbnail generation indefinitely but that would mean guessing which video I want to watch especially those video clips that are identified only by the date stamp for when they were taken)
Well, it should be a matter of personal preference, for this is why we choose android! And I can safety say that there is no noticeable performance impact when generating thumbnails of a folder containing say, 40 videos as MX Player only generates thumbnails for the current folder and not everything all at once. In addition, I would say this is a great feature to include and is a step torwards being the best and most feature packed video player ever! VLC maybe king in the desktop arena but MX Player reigns supreme on the android! :good:

tatertots216 said:
It's a very very grave breach of my privacy, and my human rights!
On a seriously note, it's about having the medium ground between privacy and convenience. (I could just as easily suspend thumbnail generation indefinitely but that would mean guessing which video I want to watch especially those video clips that are identified only by the date stamp for when they were taken)
Well, it should be a matter of personal preference, for this is why we choose android! And I can safety say that there is no noticeable performance impact when generating thumbnails of a folder containing say, 40 videos as MX Player only generates thumbnails for the current folder and not everything all at once. In addition, I would say this is a great feature to include and is a step torwards being the best and most feature packed video player ever! VLC maybe king in the desktop arena but MX Player reigns supreme on the android! :good:
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Ok. We will forward your concern to the developer.
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tatertots216 said:
It's a very very grave breach of my privacy, and my human rights!
On a seriously note, it's about having the medium ground between privacy and convenience. (I could just as easily suspend thumbnail generation indefinitely but that would mean guessing which video I want to watch especially those video clips that are identified only by the date stamp for when they were taken)
Well, it should be a matter of personal preference, for this is why we choose android! And I can safety say that there is no noticeable performance impact when generating thumbnails of a folder containing say, 40 videos as MX Player only generates thumbnails for the current folder and not everything all at once. In addition, I would say this is a great feature to include and is a step torwards being the best and most feature packed video player ever! VLC maybe king in the desktop arena but MX Player reigns supreme on the android! :good:
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I don't see how this could be privacy at all... everything is stored locally on your device.
If anything, @aarongillion63 and his reason regarding album art is probably a more compelling argument for such a feature. The developer can decide if he wants to implement this feature.

ktsamy said:
Ok. We will forward your concern to the developer.
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Thank you! :good:
CDB-Man said:
I don't see how this could be privacy at all... everything is stored locally on your device.
If anything, @aarongillion63 and his reason regarding album art is probably a more compelling argument for such a feature. The developer can decide if he wants to implement this feature.
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I forgot to mention that only my external microSD is encrypted (due to performance reasons) and I recently found out that MX Player has been leaking unencrypted thumbnails into the main storage! I do not quite understand his issues regarding maintaining the perfect album art but I believe, addressing potential security and privacy issues while maintaining ease of use and functionality should also be a good reason as any

What I meant is that it's not like your entire device's contents are shared to the internet; that would be silly. If you are that concerned, I would assume that you already have security software on your device, you have already closed listening on all your device's ports, and none of your apps have read/write access except in their own specific settings and cache folders.
Though if you are of the people that prefer _everything_ encrypted, wouldn't you be concerned about every other app out there that also stores a cache on your device's internal storage? I'd assume that this would mean you are posting on every other app's support forum asking for an option that they allow cache disabling.
Besides, unless you have "questionable" videos that might get thumbnailed, it does seem a little bit on the excessive security side.
That's my 2 cents worth. My personal thoughts aside, it's up to the developer if he wants to implement this. In the interim, you could manually clear cache upon exit, or setup a Tasker task to periodically do it for you.

CDB-Man said:
Though if you are of the people that prefer _everything_ encrypted, wouldn't you be concerned about every other app out there that also stores a cache on your device's internal storage? I'd assume that this would mean you are posting on every other app's support forum asking for an option that they allow cache disabling.
Besides, unless you have "questionable" videos that might get thumbnailed, it does seem a little bit on the excessive security side.
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You are right. Almost all android multimedia apps using cache to fast loading. But, the method differs.
I think the following could be the users concern:
Some applications uses encrypted thumbnails. Some of the apps uses archives or database. But, In mx player it caches direct thumbnails with random names without extension. Any mediam skilled android user can open as image & view the content. Since he uses encryption for sdcard the actual file can't be viewed. But, Someone can view the thumbnails of videos. But, it's very clear that he don't want to leave any trace on mobile.
Let us follow the users concern. It's upto the developer whether it will be implemented or not.
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I agree. Following features will be added on next update. (Next update will be done on this or next week.)
1) Strognly encrypted thumbnail cache image.
2) An option for disabling thumbnail caching.
Thanks you all for reportings and suggestions.

tatertots216 said:
Hi, I would like to request a simple feature that allows a user to generate/view thumbnails when browsing for videos but also have the option to NOT save them permanently on storage via the cache folder /android/data/com.mxtech.videoplayer/cache/image?
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aarongillion63 said:
I want this functionality on my music players.. I hate cache and how it screws up all my album art.
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This feature is implemented in the v1.7.27 which is live now in play store.
1. I have personally cleared the old caches & checked the new caches & it's fully encrypted now.
2. Just cleared the thumbnails & disabled thumbnail caching from Setting 》 General. Found no more thumbnail is being cached.
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ktsamy said:
This feature is implemented in the v1.7.27 which is live now in play store.
1. I have personally cleared the old caches & checked the new caches & it's fully encrypted now.
2. Just cleared the thumbnails & disabled thumbnail caching from Setting 》 General. Found no more thumbnail is being cached.
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Thank you!
bleu8888 said:
I agree. Following features will be added on next update. (Next update will be done on this or next week.)
1) Strognly encrypted thumbnail cache image.
2) An option for disabling thumbnail caching.
Thanks you all for reportings and suggestions.
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No more remembering to occasionally clean up the unsecured clutter in the android/data/........for this app at least!
Thanks a lot chief! :good: A good balance between protecting privacy while maintaining ease of use...

This feature is applied in 1.7.27. Please check it out.

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[APP] Motion detector with recording abilities

Hello everyone,
I am new to this forum. I decided to register here after I completed my android project.
I created a program that can detect movements and save pictures of the moving objects. Phone has to remain static in order to work properly. The program also features separate address book. Address book keeps phone numbers for SMS notification. In order to activate that you have to create a new contact then long press the item in the list. The program creates folder on memory card where it saves the pictures. The speed is very high on Galaxy S. You can throw something fast and phone still snaps the flying object if it passes by the camera.
The program has many settings that can dramatically alter the performance. Settings have to be adjusted in accordance with the lighting conditions.
I tested app only on 2.2 Vibrant. I am really curious to see how it works on other 2.2 devices.
ARMv7 processor is a must!!
Please give me some feedback!
App is called Motion Recorder
this sounds like a great app. gonna try it now on my incredible.
My app MobileWebCam also does this (simpler detection algorithm I suppose) and can automatically save, upload the pictures or send email:
Development Thread is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=950933
Are you interested in sharing your motion detection code? Possibly we could combine functionality of both apps?
dirtsky, If you have any questions or if you find any bugs please write in this thread.
The program is little hard to use so feel free to ask.
_miha_, Mine detects motion by analyzing color. What about yours?
How do you send e-mail without the annoying pop up?
theandre said:
_miha_, Mine detects motion by analyzing color. What about yours?
How do you send e-mail without the annoying pop up?
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My motion detection is three steps: Image is converted to grey, then I max every pixel with the ones around to remove the flickering pixels (especially needed for night/low contrast situations) and calc the difference between the last and this new pixels. Some magic value (which should better be configurable later decides about the motion. Problem is this is very slow (should use the ndk but only began working with it recently) so I have to scale down the image before which is bad for small/distant moving objects.
Email: Is not sent with Android/Intent. I use JavaMail. I had some difficulties with the libs but got it working somehow (and even more difficulties with proguard which I needed because file size is getting too large without using it).
_miha_, did you test my app? How does it stack up against yours in terms of performance?
I cant seem to find where the images are being saved on my SDcard. Epic 4G Froyo ec05 midNight Rom
I looked for the folder "Motion Recorder" and i dont see it. and theres nothing in the Gallery
zman519, since your device is basically Galaxy S type it will save in internal memory(aka 14 GB "SD card").
Please let me know if you find the folder there.
I have total 105 installs out which 35 are active. Is it considered as bad result?
UPDATE: 59 active installs out of 109 which makes it >50%. Is it good?
theandre said:
zman519, since your device is basically Galaxy S type it will save in internal memory(aka 14 GB "SD card").
Please let me know if you find the folder there.
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The Epic does not have an internal sdcard. That must be the problem. I looked around with root explorer and did not see the folder.
Sent from the Drivers Seat of my Suby txting and Driving doing 100MPH+ in a school zone! Ha.
zman519, thank you for feedback, I will fix that and let you know once the update is ready. It should not take more than half an hour.
Question to developers:
My program saves pictures to the following path:
String path = "/sdcard/Motion Recorder/TakenOn" +...
Why does it not automatically save to external sd card in the case when there is no internal sd?
UPDATE. I figured out myself. Working on update that allows user to choose between internal and external memory.
Hello dev,
I tried it on my DHD - it crashes and don't save settings.
I just updated to v0.42 which adds support for the external storage. Just go to settings and tap the checkbox. Unfortunately I have not tested the new feature on the actual hardware because I do not have one at the moment. So please, those of you who can test it please let me know if it does not work.
drast-x, Thank you for the feedback. Please give me some more details. When does it crash? After you hit the start? When you hit the start do you get the preview from the camera? Unfortunately settings do not save after the exit except contacts...
Did it happen on:Jun 11, 2011 9:32:07 PM ? I ask you this because Developer console shows me one crash that occurred at that time:
java.lang.RuntimeException: Fail to connect to camera service
at android.hardware.Camera.native_setup(Native Method)
at android.hardware.Camera.<init>(Camera.java:294)
at android.hardware.Camera.open(Camera.java:271)
Does saving pictures work on any of the phones except Epic 4g?
Thank you
I updated to v0.45
Now settings will save. Motion Recorder 0.45
Many thanks to the user of my app who sent this feedback:
"force close when start button clicked in nexus".
It turns out Nexus One (or S?) does not support either VGA or QVGA preview frames. So I had to fix this issue by requesting the supported resolutions. Very surprised by this issue. I expected that Android OS would figure this out on its own...
Thus new version 0.45.5 is supposed to fix the issue. I do not have Nexus One so I am not 100% about the fix. Those of you who are reading this and have Nexus One, please try new version!
Thank you!
Have you tried first reducing your image resolution to something ridiculously small like 32x32 and apply a DCT to keep only the low frequencies?
This might offer much better performance.
You can perform very good
_miha_ said:
My motion detection is three steps: Image is converted to grey, then I max every pixel with the ones around to remove the flickering pixels (especially needed for night/low contrast situations) and calc the difference between the last and this new pixels. Some magic value (which should better be configurable later decides about the motion. Problem is this is very slow (should use the ndk but only began working with it recently) so I have to scale down the image before which is bad for small/distant moving objects.
Email: Is not sent with Android/Intent. I use JavaMail. I had some difficulties with the libs but got it working somehow (and even more difficulties with proguard which I needed because file size is getting too large without using it).
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A few questions from a new Xoom owner.

Whats solutions are there for HDMI use?.
Are there any apps for true photo editing such as Paintshop pro or photoshop?.
My website uses flash but doesn't work properly on the tab.
http://www.cmorephotos.co.uk
I've tried the stock & Dolphin HD browsers.
I have a micro SD card installed but device won't let me delete from it says it's read only.
I use Plume twitter client but text doesn't seem sharp, I assume this is as its scaled and not tablet designed.
One of the main reasons I bought the device was for putting my large collection of photos on it.
I would be interested in any tips on making the experience better, one thing I would really like to be able to do is have the ability to rename the image or at least put a comment on it. I have scanned alot of old photos and would like to have this ability if a family member can tell me about the image.
Thanks for your time.
for the HDMI question, you can use any HDMI Micro (Type D) to HDMI (Type A)
There are no true apps that will give you the same abilities as Photoshop on a PC/MAC, but you can download Photoshop Express from the market.
I viewed your site using both the stock browser and Opera Mobile and it renders fine in Opera.
As for being unable to delete files from the SD card I believe that is a problem with the stock ROM, though could be wrong because as soon as I got my Xoom I rooted and put on a custom ROM, so have little experience of the stock ROM. Not sure if it has been fixed in the 3.2 update. I am using a custom ROM and can delete files on the SD card.
The latest version of Plume is tablet designed and the text is sharp on my Xoom.
As for managing your photos, perhaps an app like Media Organizer may be some way towards what you are looking for.
Still no Photoshop but you can use aviary. www.aviary.com/online/image-editor
merlinsrealm said:
for the HDMI question, you can use any HDMI Micro (Type D) to HDMI (Type A)
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Thanks for that. Will get a cable.
I looked at the docks too and would I be right in saying the the speaker dock is the only one that has HDMI out, seems pricey.
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Still no Photoshop but you can use aviary. www.aviary.com/online/image-editor
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Not really what Im after, Want to edit on the device.
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Not really what Im after, Want to edit on the device.
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The Adobe photoshop tool suite is coming out for android (they said in November) and they will cost $9.99 per app. Hold on...this will only be getting better with Ice Cream Sandwich. The specs look great...I think a few of the cludgy Honeycomb bits will be resolved, from what I've been reading. It's going to be a great time to have a Xoom.
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There are no true apps that will give you the same abilities as Photoshop on a PC/MAC, but you can download Photoshop Express from the market.
I viewed your site using both the stock browser and Opera Mobile and it renders fine in Opera.
As for being unable to delete files from the SD card I believe that is a problem with the stock ROM, though could be wrong because as soon as I got my Xoom I rooted and put on a custom ROM, so have little experience of the stock ROM. Not sure if it has been fixed in the 3.2 update. I am using a custom ROM and can delete files on the SD card.
The latest version of Plume is tablet designed and the text is sharp on my Xoom.
As for managing your photos, perhaps an app like Media Organizer may be some way towards what you are looking for.
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Photo shop Express only allows edit of images taken on device.
When viewing my site the gallery should come out of the bar and list sub catagories, I can't get it to do this in any of the 3 browsers
Found out about SD card issue shortly after posting.
Oddly though I can delete images from within the gallery app. - since found out this too be untrue its just temporary until reboot then they reappear
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Photo shop Express only allows edit of images taken on device.
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Go into settings and untick "Show camera photos only in Phone view". It will then show any photo's/pictures in any other folder that does not have the .nomedia file
sadly when you change the setting it shows all images rather than folders.
Thanks anyway.

[SOLVED] "Photo Settings" app by infinity8 trapped my photos, any way to save them?

[SOLVED] "Photo Settings" app by infinity8 trapped my photos, any way to save them?
I have this app called "Photo Settings" store some of my photos. All of them are 8MP photos 3264x2448.
http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/apps/e88ce04d-ff1e-490c-86b8-66beab519c46
Viewing the thumbnails of the photos in the album work fine. But when clicking it to view the whole picture, and more importantly, giving me access to the export button, crashes the app.
It does not crash when the photo is smaller in size.
Is there any way to get my photos back other than waiting for an update of the app?
My device is an HTC Titan which cannot be interop unlocked right now to get filesystem access, and from what I know, even if interop unlocked, the isolated storage of the app is encrypted, right?
Are the photos not syncing with Zune?
Ah apologies, the images are stored in the app's file storage not in your media library. Then no. The app's file storage is isolated. So you'll have to wait for the dev to update the app.
Casey
Yes, you can do it easy. You will need any ISF access desktop app (search forum). Or you may use standard MS app called ISETool.exe (located at %ProgramFiles\Microsoft SDKs\Windows Phone\v7.1\Tools\IsolatedStorageExplorerTool), it came with WP7 SDK.
Command line should be: ISETool.exe ts de e88ce04d-ff1e-490c-86b8-66beab519c46 [C:\Users\YourName\Pictures]
ts = take snapshot (i.e. download all ISF content for the app to desktop)
de = device
e88ce04d-ff1e-490c-86b8-66beab519c46 = "Photo Settings" app GUID
[C:\Users\YourName\Pictures] = you should specify snapshot location here
@sensboston: ISEtool and its ilk can only be used on sideloaded apps. Given that the OP gave a link to the marketplace, I'm guessing he didn't sideload this app.
@OP: Isolated storage is not automatically encrypted (though the app developer can choose to encrypt files before putting them there, which this dev *might* have chosen to do). However, accessing the filesystem does typically require interop-unlock, so that's probably not going to help in your case.
It's a pity, I didn't know that BTW, on interop-unlocked Focus I still can access any ISF using WP7 Root Tools.
P.S. @GoodDayToDie, what if I sideload any dummy app with the same guid? Have you tried that trick?
UPDATE: tried, doesn't work (as an update; reinstall is working but deletes old ISF)
Agh... yeah, I should have mentioned, do *not* try that! If you do so, the default beahvior is re-install (wipes the IsoStore). If you try to force an update instead of a reinstall, the phone won't permit it (if you're replacing a Marketplace app with a sideloaded one). Somebody at MS already thought of that trick. :-/
Don't worry, I've experimented with useless app, of course
Summarizing: he-he, here is another reason to sideload apps instead using marketplace
P.S. It's definitely app author's fault. WP7 data API's are such limited but Pictures is the one of most opened and well known. Nothing prevented the author to save captured images in the MediaLibrary...
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Don't worry, I've experimented with useless app, of course
Summarizing: he-he, here is another reason to sideload apps instead using marketplace
P.S. It's definitely app author's fault. WP7 data API's are such limited but Pictures is the one of most opened and well known. Nothing prevented the author to save captured images in the MediaLibrary...
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Well, the point of the app is to hide pictures from the Pictures library...
I should have tested it more thoroughly before putting secret yet important photos inside
Have you tried to contact the author? Most smart app authors include contact info somewhere in the app, usually in an "About" section. Lacking that, you can always use the review as a place to leave feedback, though it's hard for the dev to respond.
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Have you tried to contact the author?
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It seems like a best advise in this topic. Contact author and ask about adding option to save pictures to SkyDrive or media library.
GoodDayToDie said:
Have you tried to contact the author? Most smart app authors include contact info somewhere in the app, usually in an "About" section. Lacking that, you can always use the review as a place to leave feedback, though it's hard for the dev to respond.
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Yes there's an email to author link in the app, I emailed the author a few days ago, but got no reply.
I found what seems to be the author's personal email address by checking the author's domain information and emailed there too, still got no reply.
Does WP7 itself encrypt the NAND? When Riffbox supports the Titan, I can make a full NAND dump of the device through JTAG, are there any tools available to extract files from such dumps?
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Does WP7 itself encrypt the NAND? When Riffbox supports the Titan, I can make a full NAND dump of the device through JTAG, are there any tools available to extract files from such dumps?
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I don't know 100%, but may guess - it shoud be encrypted, same way as sd-card.
At this time, WP7 does not (claim to) support full device encryption. It's possible that it does so anyhow, of course.
It does lock the SD card, which means another device can't even see the data on the card, but JTAG might get around that.
One-star reviews + emails to the author explaining thr problem and the reason for the one-star review seems like the best bet for now. Lame, I know.
The author finally responded, he will be fixing the problems

[Q] Block unwanted cookies files in databases

Hi!
Yeah, yeah, I know, I know, I'm a noob... Well, sort of actually coz even if it's my first public message I've been roaming this forum for quite a while. And thanks to you guys I understood how to root, how to flash a CD Rom and so on. Without disturbing anyone, ain't it nice?:good:
But now I have a question, I couldn't find the answer anywhere on the web hence this post.
I'm rooted on both my Galaxy Mini and my Galaxy Tab P6210 and I noticed that some apks leave files like webview.db, googlestats etc. on the data/data/whateverapk/databases folders.
On the Mini I found how to prevent those annoying files from polluting my system(yep, I don't like cookies and similar spying stuff) by changing the databases folder's perms to --x --- ---, or even sometimes -- --- ---. For the most stubborn apks I rwx --- --- the databases folder, then I erase all the text in the unwanted file and finally I lock the file's perms to --- --- ---. It works with most apks including Dolphin Mini and Opera Mini, cool. Only one or two resist and FC if I attempt to modify too much the perms but it's OK, I don't use then that often and I don't mind to delete the trash manually.
The problem is that on the Galaxy Tab it doesn't work on most apks, it makes them FC. I've tried all the possible perms combinations but nope, FC.
I guess, since the concerned apks are the same on my Mini and on my Tab, that it has to do with the OS, Gingerbread for the Mini, Honeycomb for the Tab. I noticed as well that some of the files on the Tab are different, on the Mini it's mostly googleanalytics.db, webview.db and webviewCache.db files, whereas on the Tab I have, apart from the above mentioned ones, some webview.db-shm, webview.db-wal, webcookieschromium.db and webcookieschromiumprivate.db files.
I guess .db has something to do with dropbox, but I don't use any dropbox, and I even deleted the (empty by the way) folder in my system. When I open those files I can see that they have something to do as well with sqlite, but I don't have any built in sqlite. I have one that has been installed by an apk in the /xbin folder but I erased it and it didn't change anything (don't worry, I put the sqlite back afterwards). It's very annoying, those files spy on us guys, they record all the web sites we visited, the email(s) or facebook accounts we use etc.
For now I have put bookmarks on my home screen and I delete manually the troublesome files just after I opened the relevant apk but hey, it's not very convenient!
Anyone knows how I can prevent them from coming back everytime I use an apk?
Thanks a lot for your help, and sorry for the long post:angel:
Already 3 days and over 50 views but no answer yet, what's wrong?
Is it that my question is of absolute no interest?
Or that the way I explained my problem was not clear?
Or that no one knows how to do it?
Or a bit of the 3?
It seems that you want to remove unnecessary garbage files that have been left out by some applications. I recommend that you use SD Maid, free is good enough, but of course PRO is better.
Anyway, SD Maid can clean File Corpses and clean the system files like the ff:
/data/log
/data/tombstones
/data/system/dropbox
/cache
Temporary Files
Log Files
Gallery Thumbnails(This one can really build up even with just the same files. I'm not exactly sure as to why it adds again and again but it saves me a lot. Like 300~600MB)
Empty Directories
LOST.DIR Directories
It can also optimize DBs. All of these are available on the free version.
As for cookies in browser, you can uncheck "accept cookies" but this might cause some websites to malfunction or not work.
Other things like cache you can use History Eraser, One Tap Cleaner and etc.
Hope I helped.
I think most don't want to delete them because they are normal caches and cookies, also some apps' settings are stored on those database files. I don't see any advantages in deleting those files (apart from saving couple of MBs storage space...) They aren't any "bad" or "spying" files.
By the way, the .db means database, not dropbox.
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I think most don't want to delete them because they are normal caches and cookies, also some apps' settings are stored on those database files. I don't see any advantages in deleting those files (apart from saving couple of MBs storage space...) They aren't any "bad" or "spying" files.
By the way, the .db means database, not dropbox.
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Correct me If I'm wrong but it is necessary to clean caches and cookies once in a while because it can hog the device. Sometimes old caches are stored even if they are of no use anymore. It's like the principle of filling up your internal storage too much that you can see a dramatic decrease in performance. These kind of files updates a lot and does not seem to overwrite existing files or at least delete those that are unnecessary. It is not needed however to clean it every after use. Just once or twice a week is good enough.
Thanks for your answer but it's not what I was meaning, let me explain more clearly.
Take any app, say a mp3 cutter. It doesn t need any internet connection to work but when one downloads it one sees that it requires internet access permission. One thinks it s ok and one downloads it. But then in the mp3 cutter databases one finds those webview.db files, and this is why I say that it spies on us coz why this mp3 cutter needs such databases? The same with offline dictionaries, or one tap cleaner (a very bad one by the way, put it through privacy blocker and you ll be amazed of all the infos it takes from you), or mp3 players etc. On browsers like dolphin it s the same story, and when one views those files one sees that they record all the sites one has been through although the apk doesn t need it (I know it for sure coz I delete the files before my browsing cession and it still works). Disabling the cookies doesn t help, it just prevents you from accessing web sites that need cookies like gmail, yahoo and the like. Apps like LBE or privacy blocker show partly what those apks do in our back, taking our IMEI number, our contacts, reading our sms and sending everything to who knows where and for who knows what purpose. But they don t show the databases leaks...
As I said in my first post another parameter is that for a same apk, with the same version, let s say dolphin 2.3, on my Galaxy Mini running GB I managed to block the perms and thus to prevent those files to pollute my system but on my Tab running HC it doesn t work and FC the apks. Plus the files are not the same, there are more of them and with different extensions on HC (again using the same apk on both GB and HC).
So the answer lies somewhere in the OS but I couldn t find where due to my limited knowledge and that s why I m here
Any hint or idea on how to eradicate those files from their source? Of course one can delete them manually and that s what I do but it would be so nice not to have to do it all the time. It s not about saving space, those files weight next to nothing, it s about privacy.
By the way I deleted most google apks and this is already a big relief. Other setting I did include blocking all the perms of the usagestats folder, of the throttle folder (well I just left r--, ---, --- otherwise it bootloops). Download testlogging and you will see for exemple of many spying stuff the google apks put on your tablet...
Anyway, back to the topic:
how can I permanently block those files? Many people on this forum and elsewhere are very concerned with their privacy, to the extend that some create privacy watching apks, but to my knowledge nobody ever bothered about those databases files although they represent a big privacy hole in our systems...
Thanks a lot for your help!
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Apart for some real serious stuff, apps need some way to persist information. If you prevent them to, you should expect fc when they try, no?
That's too much paranoia for me.
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Correct me If I'm wrong but it is necessary to clean caches and cookies once in a while because it can hog the device. Sometimes old caches are stored even if they are of no use anymore. It's like the principle of filling up your internal storage too much that you can see a dramatic decrease in performance. These kind of files updates a lot and does not seem to overwrite existing files or at least delete those that are unnecessary. It is not needed however to clean it every after use. Just once or twice a week is good enough.
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Yes, the caches can get bloated if the app doesn't remove unnecessary things automatically. In that case a clean is ok.
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If the mp3 cutter that you mentioned in your example has ads it needs the internet permission for them, and some ad providers make the database files automatically. They just contain some ad web address cache and only "personal" information saved is your language setting, at least from my experience.
And blocking the apps saving the information doesn't help with privacy really much because they can still access the info, they just can't save it in the databases. A malicious app can send the info without saving it too.
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leodfs said:
Apart for some real serious stuff, apps need some way to persist information. If you prevent them to, you should expect fc when they try, no?
That's too much paranoia for me.
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I have to agree with this one. Messing up with permissions can cause issues to certain applications and it really seems that he is paranoid.
If your concerned about such privacy, you shouldn't download the app on the first place. Although some developers get rid of such permissions because of some people's concern, this is unlikely to happen to every application. HC is a different platform from Gingerbread and so such issues that you have mentioned may occur.
Have you tried firewalls like DroidWall? I'm not sure if it really works, but it might lessen your burden from manually deleting files or privacy concerns like your data being accessed/used. Again, not sure.
Don t worry, I m not paranoid, my Tab is well protected, I have rather intricated settings between Privacy Blocker, LBE (by the way and FYI, LBE conflicts with Droidwall, both can t work together) Rom Tool Box, Logging Test and Permissions denied, so I don t think that any apk can steal any info from me!!!
Actually it s more a matter of principle, why apks like let s say Dolphin or Opera record all the sites I ve surfed, eventhough they don t need to do so (coz they still work after I deleted those files manually). And about the exemple given above, why apks which don t display adds need to have an internet permission and to put such webview.db files in the databases? Of course I m not obliged to download them, and actually I ve already erased many such apks, but for some I don t have any choice, specially for dictionaries (I travel a lot and need such stuff).
Plus it s a matter of curiosity, where the heck lies the source of those files? And why can I block those files easily on GB but not on HC? Yes, it s because the OS is different, I know, but how does it work? I don t know so much about Android OS but I like it and I want to learn more.
So back to the question, how can I tweak my system in order to prevent those files from appearing everytime use an apk? There are enough experts on thsi forum so hopefully someone knows the answer.
And BTW, when I see the difference between GB and HC, I mean more spying from the Google/Android OS, then I feel less eager to upgrade to ICS coz for sure it will get even worse, not to mention JB...
You're not saving passwords in your browsers/webview-based-apps, right?...
Do you mind explaining why webview.db databases have you concerned?
Thanks.
They are saving information from him, that's why. Nothing can save his information, I think that is the point.
Dude relax, there are spy apps, there loggers, but you are blacklisting all webview based ones.
And as some guy told before, if they want to spy you, they don't need to save anything.
But seriously, you don't need to study much on Android OS to known why what you are doing are causing fc. Take any app in any platform that have internal Conf and db files. Corrupt them and mess with permissions, you should get something similar.
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Thank you for explaining me why they Fc but I had understood it by myself from the very begining, I m what you call a noob but I m not brain dead:silly:
All what I want to know is what generates those files in the OS, and how to prevent it from happening, provided that it s possible.
Apart from that it s ok for me if other people don t mind having files in their databases which record their web activity, and if they don t feel uneasy to know that the more advanced the Android OS the more files there is and the more difficult it is to block them (I said already 2 times that on Ginger Bread I block all those files and that the apks don t FC, which prove that the files are not required by the apks to work normally).
Thanks
I am not calling you noob buddy, but you were trying to solve a problem with no elegance at all.
Contact developers and ask why they are using webview and that you are not comfortable with files it creates. But if you use a program that uses it you have to accept those files, simple.
A lot of details of stuff like webview are API specific so changes version to version. So access of those files may changes on each version of android, as well as file location, name or how to handle errors. So the fact that what you did worked on gb, helps you with no conclusions.
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I didn t mean thay you (tu) called me a noob but that you in general (vos) call newbies noobs. Sorry for the misunderstanding, it s one of the many limitations of english compated to latin or germanic languages
So it sounds like what I was asking about is impossible to do, well, well, I will see what I can do with apktool, maybe I can change something in the manifest or ressources or I don t know where. Just for info, here s what s insideone of those files when it s newly created and before it starts spying:
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���k �6� `���" �tablepasswordpasswordCREATE TABLE password (_id INTEGER PRIMARY KEY, host TEXT, username TEXT, password TEXT, UNIQUE (host, username) ON CONFLICT REPLACE)/
Cindexsqlite_autoindex_password_1password�+�)tablehttpauthhttpauth CREATE TABLE httpauth (_id INTEGER PRIMARY KEY, host TEXT, realm TEXT, username TEXT, password TEXT, UNIQUE (host, realm) ON CONFLICT REPLACE)/Cindexsqlite_autoindex_httpauth_1httpauth
�"�tableformdataformdataCREATE TABLE formdata (_id INTEGER PRIMARY KEY, urlid INTEGER, name TEXT, value TEXT, UNIQUE (urlid, name, value) ON CONFLICT IGNORE)/Cindexsqlite_autoindex_formdata_1formdataR}tableformurlformurlCREATE TABLE formurl (_id INTEGER PRIMARY KEY, url TEXT)J%cindexcookiesIndexcookiesCREATE INDEX cookiesIndex ON cookies (path)�� tablecookiescookiesCREATE TABLE cookies (_id INTEGER PRIMARY KEY, name TEXT, value TEXT, domain TEXT, path TEXT, expires INTEGER, secure INTEGER)W--ctableandroid_metadataandroid_metadataCREATE TABLE android_metadata (locale TEXT) ��en_GB
@unclefab
Even if the webview.db has always all the fields it doesn't mean they need to have a value or string. For example the "password" field is almost always emtpy.
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A little old, but worth the reading:
forensicsferret.wordpress.com/2010/09/30/android-browser-forensics/
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Why would I use such apks?
I said it already, it s because I need them. I deleted some and replaced them by similar apks more privacy friendly, but for some I don t have any choice. For exemple browser. I managed to lock the perms on opera mini and it still works but you know opera mini, on some sites it doesn t display correctly so I have to use dolphin whose perms can t be locked. Talking about it I will try boat browser, it s not as good as dolphin but if it doesn t have those files it could be a solution...
Same stories with dictionaries. I m a language teacher who lives in asia and I need far eastern languages dictionaries. Try to find a thai english or thai indonesian dictionary which can work without those files... BTW if you are interested I found a good english chinese which works without any .db garbage;-)
Thanks for the links, interesting article, some food for thoughts...

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So I have been using the S22 Ultra since launch (pre-ordered). I noticed that I cannot view other's whatsapp stories, profile pictures or send stickers without granting access to my entire gallery. I cannot even use snapchat without granting access to my entire gallery. I can do all of these things on an iPhone without granting access to gallery. And when I want to share a picture I can choose to grant access to only that one picture instead of the entire gallery. I believe even the Google pixel on android 13 gives you the option to grant access to select pictures instead of the entire gallery and because of that I was hoping Samsung's android 13 will give the option to give access to select pictures but I was wrong. It's still the same. Where is the so called 'Privacy' here?
You could put private pictures into secured folder (not recommended) or perhaps use another folder name for private that doesn't have dcim in the folder name.
Those social media apps shouldn't be on the device at all if you value privacy and security. Instead access and logon to them through the browser only (if at all) preferably using Brave.
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You could put private pictures into secured folder (not recommended) or perhaps use another folder name for private that doesn't have dcim in the folder name.
Those social media apps shouldn't be on the device at all if you value privacy and security. Instead access and logon to them through the browser only (if at all) preferably using Brave.
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Yes, I know we can do that but don't you think we shouldn't have to do all this just to use basic features of apps. They have been speaking about privacy and security so much but chose to ignore this part completely. Specially when Google has given us the option to give access to only selected pictures instead of entire gallery but samsung did not give us that option.
wazza1991 said:
Yes, I know we can do that but don't you think we shouldn't have to do all this just to use basic features of apps. They have been speaking about privacy and security so much but chose to ignore this part completely. Specially when Google has given us the option to give access to only selected pictures instead of entire gallery but samsung did not give us that option.
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Google and privacy are mutually exclusive. I use Gmail and that's the only cloud apps I use. Google play Services and Playstore are normally disabled. The Android bs hype about security isn't needed especially scooped storage. Google has damaged Android; who wants an Android Apple?
Pie is a better OS and is secure if the user doesn't do stupid things.
No updates needed, just sound judgment. This N10+ is running on Pie, last update was almost 3 years ago. Current load is over 2 yo, still fast, stable with minimal maintenance. No security breaches to date. It looks and runs hella better than 12.

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