Android antivirus useless?? - General Questions and Answers

I have read an article from a website claiming that Android antivirus are useless since all Abdroid apps run within a sandbox and this greatly hinders antivirus from fully function. Is this valid claim? I thought the apps can function beyond sandbox to certain extent as long as they ask me permissions.
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You don't need anti-virus apps in your device.. linux is self secured...
U might use anti-virus if you want to slow your device I guess u don't wanna do that
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Hello, Thanks for your reply
whay do you mean by "Linux is self secured"? What does it do?
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csm121295 said:
Hello, Thanks for your reply
whay do you mean by "Linux is self secured"? What does it do?
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Linux is self secured in that users do not have permission to run applications for which the permissions do not allow. For example normal users cannot access configuration files. Root access is required. In order to install or change applications root access is also required.

Don't need anti-virus app on your android mobile.
Just remember don't install the app from non-play market.
And note that the permission before installing.

And you can always try applications from XDA. we are trusted people
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True. I think XDA apps are as reliable as play store apps since apps on XDA gets constant feedbacks from other developers.
However, that also means that, just like playstore apps, I should be aware of relatively new and unpopular apps.
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csm121295 said:
True. I think XDA apps are as reliable as play store apps since apps on XDA gets constant feedbacks from other developers.
However, that also means that, just like playstore apps, I should be aware of relatively new and unpopular apps.
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Yes exactly
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csm121295 said:
True. I think XDA apps are as reliable as play store apps since apps on XDA gets constant feedbacks from other developers.
However, that also means that, just like playstore apps, I should be aware of relatively new and unpopular apps.
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Would not even trust all apps from play store as google is not checking them before adding to the store. so they might be harmful as well... Hence, XDA apps are even trustworthier I would say :good:

During my years of Android experience. I have never heard of any Android phone getting a virus?
If you have anti-viruse softwares on your device. The only thing that'll do is slow your device down and restrict you to certain content.
So yes. Android anti viruses are useless.
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csm121295 said:
True. I think XDA apps are as reliable as play store apps since apps on XDA gets constant feedbacks from other developers.
However, that also means that, just like playstore apps, I should be aware of relatively new and unpopular apps.
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Isn't there usually built in antivirus components into android especially in 5.0

csm121295 said:
Hello, Thanks for your reply
whay do you mean by "Linux is self secured"? What does it do?
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And seriously... there is already not a lot of viruses developp on linux, so on android...

There's no way an app could infect your phone when you aren't rooted, so Anti Virus on Android is useless.
Even if you are rooted, when you don't download the most obscure apks, chances are nihil you get a virus (or otherwise harmed). If you don't fully trust an apk, you than screen it using googles apk installer. It doens't slow down your device and works good.

Thanks for the insight
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It can happen
Just recently, a friend got a virus on her Galaxy S6 from browsing via Chrome to her local CrossFit site, which is as follows:
http://brandonevenson.com/
Just downloaded ESET Mobile Security & Antivirus to give it a test run.
Thoughts?

Antivirus apps are all just gimmicks and completely useless also often causing more problems mainly by drastically hindering performance. A real computer virus is just impossible on a Linux based system like android because the nature of androids architecture isn't a comfortable environment for viruses to run quietly and stealthily and would take the most intense development Google longs for and for what some nerds contacts and porn browser history? The only thing close to a virus is maybe malware which then is no more than popup ads and such. So ask yourself who to worry about when so many antivirus apps are deceiving millions of people...
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Antivirus apps are just like task killers, battery boosters , etc.. They are really bad for a modern android
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who needs antivirus? i used it before. it was just annoying.

Antivirus is must for an anroid phone
csm121295 said:
I have read an article from a website claiming that Android antivirus are useless since all Abdroid apps run within a sandbox and this greatly hinders antivirus from fully function. Is this valid claim? I thought the apps can function beyond sandbox to certain extent as long as they ask me permissions.
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Antivirus is must for your android smart phone. Because many a times we come across an app exchange through which virus entry possibilities increase.

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pushkardua said:
You don't need anti-virus apps in your device.. linux is self secured...
U might use anti-virus if you want to slow your device I guess u don't wanna do that
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try AVG best smartphone antivirus with easy to use interface...

I believe the Android antivirus are useless but that doesn't mean there is no virus. There are viruses and I will continue to believe that all android antivirus are useless unless SafeBytes release their antivirus app for Android. I hope this meeting will be fruitful.

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I currently have AVG free app running on my android. I find its scanning of everything downloaded to be rather annoying. Also I dont like it saying p"protected by AVG antivirus" on my lock screen. Is having an antivirus app really neccassary--I dont go crazy with downloading and dont surf random obscure websites. I haven't heard of too many people getting viruses if at all so are antivirus apps really nexxessary?
+ive never heard of phone viruses either but theyre a possibility(a small one but there nonetheless) my superstitions and the "wheres my phone" feature make me use lookout
to get a vius to android tho would be difficult because it doesnt use executable programs and before insyalling apks shows the permissions also, downloads are shown in notifications
but i kno keyloggers exist
I use lookout for the hell of it. I don't think a virus is an issue as much a malicious apps spills be. It is mostly non invasive and notifications can be turned off. My two cents.
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I feel like an idiot now that I realize I can turn off those notifications
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I was using Norton mobile security.. now using kaspersky mobile security. It has more options (sim block, wipe, find phone blah blah)
you don't need an anti virus. just don't install 3rd party apps that came from unreliable sources.
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It happens, don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=android+market+viruses
Unlike windows where viruses can infect your computer from virtually Any email/pic/etc. Android cannot get viruses. however, malicious programs do exist. What makes them different is that the user has to install them. Therefore it is entirely in your control. Use some common sense and you will be fine.
For an antivirus to protect you, the malicious program has to have been previously identified and defined by the security program's staff. By which time It's likely been removed from the market. And if it catches it then likely It's too late anyway.
In other words, having an AntiVirus is basically a redundant security feature that a) wastes space and CPU cycles, and b) only gives a false sense of security.
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Do you people really think an antivirus is right now necessary for Android?
I stick with lookout, AVG always gives a ton of false positives.
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I stick with lookout, AVG always gives a ton of false positives.
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i agree with you mate...specially who had root phone and ability of superuser, it benefit for the their own sake (developer) ..not urs
Didn't want to start a new thread so I'll add to this one....
If you use antivirus apps which one do you use? I found two that seem pretty good. The first one is lightweight but unsure of how good the detection is, also infrequent database updates. The second one is well known in Korea, better interface and has frequent database updates but has a larger footprint.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.zrgiu.antivirus&feature=search_result
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.estsoft.alyac&feature=search_result
I use Lookout since I don't see any downside as it doesn't hog battery/memory and is just not annoying. I don't know if it's likely that I could get a virus - but since there isn't really any downside for me using Lookout, I use it.
I'm using F-secure 1 year free license with Optimus 2x
I am thinking about starting to use some kind of AntiVirus, but I want to ask if there is visible lazyness of system while using antivirus.
I have HTC DHD.
Thank you in advance for your answers.
eLPeCKo said:
I am thinking about starting to use some kind of AntiVirus, but I want to ask if there is visible lazyness of system while using antivirus.
I have HTC DHD.
Thank you in advance for your answers.
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Not that I've ever noticed. The only time you even know it is there is when you're installing an app and it gives you a notification that it is scanning and then the results. It doesn't cause any slowdown or anything. (This is Lookout I'm talking about, idk about any others.)
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sageDieu said:
Not that I've ever noticed. The only time you even know it is there is when you're installing an app and it gives you a notification that it is scanning and then the results. It doesn't cause any slowdown or anything. (This is Lookout I'm talking about, idk about any others.)
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Thank you very much for your quick reply.
I am going to give a try to Lookout and will see If than to others also.
AVG says superuser app is virus.
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AVG says superuser app is virus.
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Personally I just run Lookout as well. Hasnt caught anything yet, but hope that just means I haven't been bad in my file and app choices.

[Q] Webroot Mobile Security?

What do you guys think of this app?
http://www.webroot.com/En_US/consumer-products-mobile-security-android-phone.html
It's most obvious features are malware protection (does this even exist for androids?) and virus protection (again...is this an issue for androids?)
But what intrigues me the most is that if my phone is lost, I can do audible locating, gps locatins, remote lockdown, or worst-case, remote wipe from another phone.
I know there are other free apps that offer the above tasks...I was using wheresmydroid before, but then had to supplement it with other apps to get all of these same features.
Anyway, I know it's an expensive app, but I'm not too concerned about the $15/year. But does anyone have any experience with this app? Does it do all that it says it does? Is there a better alternative available?
I dont know about that app....i use Lookout and I get all that, back up and phone location and such, too...it also scans apps you download to see if there "safe"....i haven't had any problems with it so far...theres a free version and a premium version
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I don't know about the app but I user their pc protection and its good. I will be getting this.
Thanks for the heads up. Didn't know they had an app.
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Im using Theft Aware. It has all the same features and I know from experience it works very well. You should look into it.
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bls2633 said:
Im using Theft Aware. It has all the same features and I know from experience it works very well. You should look into it.
Is it free or a paid app?
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Do you use an anti-virus app?

Curious what you guys think about the need for an antivirus app on an Android device. Since it's a Linux kernel, I don't know if it makes a lot of sense to install such an app. Are there other threats that could warrant using antivirus on Android?
Do you have an antivirus app installed?
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I am currently using dr web. I would always recomend antivirus, the larger the marketplace the more you're going to see virus is written for androids. Never hurts to be prepared.
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bobblack said:
Curious what you guys think about the need for an antivirus app on an Android device. Since it's a Linux kernel, I don't know if it makes a lot of sense to install such an app. Are there other threats that could warrant using antivirus on Android?
Do you have an antivirus app installed?
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You are going to get some mixed answers about this, the problem with anti-virus is it uses more cpu so that means a bigger drain on your battery and performance.
If it is effective or not at identifying threats and stopping them....that is hard to know for sure.
I don't mess with anti-virus... never had a problem so far running Ubuntu in 2 years or on my Droid 2 for nearly a year. Just my $0.02-worth.

Best Antivirus Program for Android

Hello
Can you help me? Which antivirus to choose?
MT Antivirus
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Hello
Can you help me? Which antivirus to choose?
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For Android use MT antivirus. Small size but very powerful. You can download it from google play store
The best is none at all. Aniti virus for android is pointless.... just read comments on apps and check its permissions before installing.
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i use dr web lite. Free. Bare Anti-Virus. No malware/virus found so far
I use avg and avast.
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An android device doesnt need an antivirus program..
Is that true?????
Manishmickeybarman said:
An android device doesnt need an antivirus program..
Is that true?????
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Very true all they do is look at installed apps and check if they are known to be bad against a database so they won't even protect you against new bad apps
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re antivirus
kaspersky in best one
sudhar007 said:
kaspersky in best one
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Everyone says theirs is "Best", maybe, but I think a good one is Droid Lookout. it also has features to find a lost phone,etc, and a web site to view extra info. It was the highest rated on a few web pages and magazine articles a while back.
chris170569 said:
I use avg and avast.
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I also use AVG before but I think avast better.
Manishmickeybarman said:
An android device doesnt need an antivirus program..
Is that true?????
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I think android no need antivirus program because use more ram and slow down the device
antivirus for me is bad for many reasons:
1)it uses ram and battery
2)for not having virus for example we can check permissions of apps and not installing. in android we can get virus only installing a app that contains one, if we are only on the browser we are protected
if you want to use one, take avast that has the anti thef option
avg is best :good:
Avast
kaspersky is good one
zacthespack said:
The best is none at all. Aniti virus for android is pointless.... just read comments on apps and check its permissions before installing.
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nuff said!
SpadaBoss said:
antivirus for me is bad for many reasons:
1)it uses ram and battery
2)for not having virus for example we can check permissions of apps and not installing. in android we can get virus only installing a app that contains one, if we are only on the browser we are protected
if you want to use one, take avast that has the anti thef option
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what you are saying is correct but we not only install apps from playstore, we install apps from other places too so antivirus might come handy in those conditions...
Go for Avast its the best out there and it also has anti theft feature
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kaspersky in best one
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LOL... Kasperskiy works for russian FSB (it's like FBI in US) many years already... Nice backdoor to your system for yours money.
I like zoner. While av is not a huge necessity right now...wait my friend. Given the skyrocketing rise in popularity of Android, so will the number of bad guys looking to exploit it
I like zoner too. I wouldn't say the best, but it seems to work for me.
i like avast, because you can enable all options free

good sniffing app

I need some help....
im looking for a sniffing app or keylogger app for android... isnt so esay to find some good apk´s. on windows its simple with refog, but it should even easy with android huh?
it should only monitor all about the chrome browser (first of all the inkognito pages), no facebook etc...
the first point is, is it possible without root? because my lg is 3 weeks old and i like to kept the warrenty.... and what is the best app for this job?
thanks :fingers-crossed:
nobody can help? ;(
I don't know a keylogger or a sniffer for android but I think that you'll be forced to root your device if you want to do something like that.
Interceptor-NG, Arpspoof, Droidsheep, Faceniff
Among them Interceptor-NG is in Gplay, rest all you need to Google.
Interceptor-NG is more useful if coupled with an MITM attack tool... wont go in the details... root is needed in all.
Dunno about keyloggers.
Be careful and hopefully you are not using them for any negative reasons.
Cheers.
Key logger for your own phone? Hmmm
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Dievollo said:
I need some help....
im looking for a sniffing app or keylogger app for android... isnt so esay to find some good apk´s. on windows its simple with refog, but it should even easy with android huh?
it should only monitor all about the chrome browser (first of all the inkognito pages), no facebook etc...
the first point is, is it possible without root? because my lg is 3 weeks old and i like to kept the warrenty.... and what is the best app for this job?
thanks :fingers-crossed:
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The solution is called AndroRat. It' a Remonte Administration Tool with keylogging feature and much more!
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Droid sheep works for me.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/androrat-remote-administration-tool-t2734932
But you have to make your own APK...

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